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Sotomayor quits club before hearings

June 20, 2009

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— Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor resigned Friday from an elite all-women’s club after Republicans questioned her participation in it.

Sotomayor said she resigned from the Belizean Grove to prevent the issue from becoming a distraction in her confirmation hearings.

In a letter to Democratic Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont and Republican Sen. Jeff Sessions of Alabama, the federal appeals court judge said she is convinced that the club does not practice “invidious discrimination” and that her membership in it did not violate judicial ethics.

But she said she didn’t want questions about it to “distract anyone from my qualifications and record.”

Federal judges are bound by a code that says they shouldn’t join any organization that discriminates by race, sex, religion or nationality.

The Belizean Grove bills itself as women’s answer to the 130-year-old all-male Bohemian Club in California. The club owns a 2,500-acre camping area in northern California called the Grove. Chief Justice Earl Warren belonged to the Bohemian Club beginning in the 1940s, before he joined the court and long before the federal judiciary adopted a code of conduct.

“The Belizean Grove is a constellation of influential women who are key decision makers in the profit, non-profit and social sectors; who build long term mutually beneficial relationships in order to both take charge of their own destinies and help others to do the same,” the group says on its Web site. There are about 115 members, the club says.

Comments

Jeff Kilgore 5 years, 6 months ago

LJ, comparing a business club of professional people with a lynch mob sounds like you've been brainwashed. Your superior wisdom doesn't exactly shine through.

grammaddy 5 years, 6 months ago

Whew! I thought she had asked to have her name withdrawn from consideration for the Supreme Court. LJ- is every group that doesn't involve white professional men a racist hate group in your eyes? If they won't let you in they must be a racist hate group, huh?! That's pretty racist and hateful in and of itself.

oldvet 5 years, 6 months ago

Did you not read this part... "Federal judges are bound by a code that says they shouldn’t join any organization that discriminates by race, sex, religion or nationality."

She is already a Federal judge and she has violated this code... like many recent Democrat appointees, she wants resigning now (similar to paying taxes that were avoided for years) to wipe away her violation... she should be questioned as to why she did not resign as soon as she received her first appointment as a Federal judge... bad judgement? ignorance? arrogance?

RoeDapple 5 years, 6 months ago

http://powerlineblog.com/archives/2009/06/023836.php

"Judge Sotomayor appears to deny that her club excludes men. She states that "to the best of my knowledge, a man has never asked to be considered for membership" and that "it is also my understanding that all interested individuals are duly considered by the membership committee." But according to this account, the Belizean Grove, which consists of approximately 125 female members, is an avowedly all-female club that was founded as the female answer to the all-male Bohemian Grove. The fact that no males have applied to an avowedly all female club does not strike me as a good defense under Canon 2C."

jumpin_catfish 5 years, 6 months ago

If she didn't have a problem with the club a month ago why is she quitting now? Well, liberals why did she quit this club, why was she in it in the first place? Isn't free association a protected right in the constitution? So what the problem here? hmmmmm

dandelion 5 years, 6 months ago

This is so funny. How many judges belong to sororities and fraternities? How many belong to all men's clubs? How many all men's club exist compared to all women clubs? Did you know that anyone can join La Raza? You don't have to be hispanic. Did you know that all your lies and fear mongering are the reasons why people voted for Obama? When you are found to be hypocritical liars, people do not take you seriously. In fact, you are becoming quite a joke, but because of all the murders happening recently by radical right wingnuts, It's just not funny anymore.

Leslie Swearingen 5 years, 6 months ago

I never thought much of Judge Sotomayor. Her appearance is always very sloppy and that indicates something about her. It means to me that her thinking is sloppy. Something must be going on in that club that made her resign now. Does she think this is going to deflect questions about her past?

Alia Ahmed 5 years, 6 months ago

It is interesting that the AP story run on CBS mentions that Ginsburg and Day-O'Connor both belonged to clubs exclusive to women and so did Anthony Kennedy at the time of his nomination. Is Sotomayor being held to a higher standard because she was nominated by President Obama or because she is Latina? Kennedy resigned from the club he belonged to when he was being considered for the supreme court seat. It doesn't say that Ginsburg and Day-O'Connor left the clubs they belonged to. Also, why was this information left out of the AP story run by LJW?
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/19/politics/main5099148.shtml

Alia Ahmed 5 years, 6 months ago

Tom,

Heaven forbid a black man might harbor some resentment about serving in the military for his country while having to sit in the back of the bus, drink out of a separate drinking fountain or be refused service at a restaurant.

You spew all sorts of anger and hatred and I would wager you've never experienced anything like that.

oldvet 5 years, 6 months ago

Typical liberal, beo... when you can't attack or defend the message, then attack the messengers... just reinforces the points being made...

staff04 5 years, 6 months ago

Wingers--

Reagan appointee Kennedy was a member of an all male club called the Olympic Club--he resigned his membership immediately before his confirmation hearings. I certainly hope you were slinging the same poo when he was nominated as you are now...so please, do tell us why you aren't howling about him?

staff04 5 years, 6 months ago

Oldvet, that was primarily directed at you, fool. I'm sure you were just as vocal when Kennedy was appointed...

oldvet 5 years, 6 months ago

thanks for proving the point, libs...

RoeDapple 5 years, 6 months ago

Poor beo, he's like lug nuts on a dodge. Turn him the wrong way he gets loose.

staff04 5 years, 6 months ago

What's the matter oldvet? Can't come up with a way to excuse your hypocrisy?

Sorry, but when the messenger's credibility is destroyed (as it clearly is in this case), the messenger is fair game.

And I will defend the message--she did the right thing. As did Kennedy.

Maybe next time you'll think about what you are saying and possibly consider that it will make you look foolish before you post.

Your words:

"She is already a Federal judge and she has violated this code… like many recent Democrat appointees, she wants resigning now (similar to paying taxes that were avoided for years) to wipe away her violation… she should be questioned as to why she did not resign as soon as she received her first appointment as a Federal judge… bad judgement? ignorance? arrogance?"

Your unwillingness to admit your hypocrisy (or ignorance of history, as it may be) is proving a different point than you intended.

dandelion 5 years, 6 months ago

staff04, don't you know it's ok to belong to these clubs if you are conservative like these nut job posters? They all belong to all male clubs, and, hey, I'll bet the Klan is a 1000 times more racist than La Raza ever thought of being? Does the Klan let blacks and Jews join? They can join La Raza. How is that being racists. Do you have evidence of their racism other than liars on the internet?

Flap Doodle 5 years, 6 months ago

Wasn't Democratic Senator Byrd a member of the KKK?

jaywalker 5 years, 6 months ago

"Reagan appointee Kennedy was a member of an all male club called the Olympic Club—he resigned his membership immediately before his confirmation hearings. I certainly hope you were slinging the same poo when he was nominated as you are now…so please, do tell us why you aren't howling about him?"

I'll take a stab at that last line........mmmmmmm, 'cuz it was more than 20 years ago?! Look, I don't have a problem with Sotomayor belonging to this club and personally I'd have preferred she stuck up for herself and didn't quit. But more often than not, the type of argument staff04 decided to counter with is as intellectually sound as you'd get from a 5 year old in the back seat of mommy's car shrieking, "He started it!"

"Your unwillingness to admit your hypocrisy (or ignorance of history, as it may be) is proving a different point than you intended."

Wow. First, your 'attackee' was not guilty of 'hypocrisy', child, in any sense of the word. As for "ignorance of history" - how unbelievably pathetic can you actually be? I've got a million bucks that says you had to do an internet search to find the 'Kennedy in the Olympic Club with the candlestick' Clue. Most likely it came from Dailykos or Huff Post or some other liberal/progressive site, but it certainly didn't come from your incredible 'recall of history'. So you have the stones to call someone hypocritical, as if everyone that belongs to a political party is inherently responsible for everything that ever happened within that party, AND then pretend like you knew all this all the time?!!!

Staff04 has my vote for Donkeywhole of the Day.

feeble 5 years, 6 months ago

Irish (Irish Swearingen) says…

I never thought much of Judge Sotomayor. Her appearance is always very sloppy and that indicates something about her. It means to me that her thinking is sloppy.

So, you would have disqualified Einstein because of a bad hair day? In case the black robes didn't tip you off, SCOTUS isn't a fashion show.

The only thing that matters is her judicial record. The fact the conservatives in the media and on this board are unable to articulate a cogent argument against Sotomayor's extensive judicial record is very telling.

But please, continue to regale us with your petty partisanship, misogyny and racism.

Katara 5 years, 6 months ago

feeble (Anonymous) says… But please, continue to regale us with your petty partisanship, misogyny and racism. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please don't encourage her. This is someone who just posted that they think a woman, who has been raped and does not wish to continue a resulting pregnancy, should be sterilized.

Irish (Irish Swearingen) says… A child conceived in rape or incest is not an abomination. He/she deserves to live. After the birth, the mother does not have to see the child again. Perhaps such a woman could be neutered at the time of the birth so she will never be burdened with a baby.

and

Irish (Irish Swearingen) says… beatrice Well, no. I wrote that a woman who has had a baby after being raped might be neutered if she considers having a child such a burden. I said nothing about neutering a baby or a child.

http://www2.ljworld.com/weblogs/at-random/2009/jun/17/where-are-palins-sisters-calling-all-feminists/

Is it such a surprise that she make such judgments on an important nomination based on such things as to whether or not the candidate is a snappy dresser?

staff04 5 years, 6 months ago

jay, I'll bet my dollars to your donuts that I have spent a lot more time in Washington and have a far greater grasp of the political history there than your 7th grade field trip afforded you.

"mmmmmmm, 'cuz it was more than 20 years ago?!"

The judicial code of conduct that contains the section about affiliations (that oldvet used in his attack on Sotomayor) was established in 1973.

I'll quote myself, since you obviously didn't get it the first time:

"She did the right thing--so did Kennedy."

As a matter of fact, denying that the situations are identical as oldvet (and, it appears, you) do and only attacking one of the violators is absolutely hypocrisy.

Sorry, but you sound as pathetic as oldvet did.

jaywalker 5 years, 6 months ago

staff,

Perhaps you have spent more time in D.C., (who cares?)but you still got the Kennedy stuff off the net, you and I and everyone else know it. So calling someone out for their "ignorance of history" is disingenous, slimy, and pathetic. Well done you.

"The judicial code of conduct that contains the section about affiliations (that oldvet used in his attack on Sotomayor) was established in 1973"

???? Who gives a shiitake mushroom?! The line, “mmmmmmm, 'cuz it was more than 20 years ago?!”, was clearly a response to your juvenile and nonsensical line:

"I certainly hope you were slinging the same poo when he was nominated as you are now…so please, do tell us why you aren't howling about him?"

Why isn't he (oldvet) howling about him (Kennedy)? 'Cuz it was 20 years ago! Got it now? Yeah, you're certainly displaying the mental facility to maintain the 'grasp of political history' when you can't even read, comprehend, and respond.

"As a matter of fact, denying that the situations are identical as oldvet (and, it appears, you) do and only attacking one of the violators is absolutely hypocrisy"

Again, what the ??? Point to where I OR oldvet denied the situations were identical. Here's a hint: don't bother, 'cuz neither of us did. Also, I didn't "attack a violator", I wrote that Sotomayor should have stuck with the club. Pathetic, staff, this desperate attempt to pull shinola out your rump. Hmm, what might you make up next?

And you need to look up the definition of 'hypocrisy', kiddo. Until you actually understand it's application and how to use big, multi-syllabic words, stay in the kiddie end. It was only 10:30 when you responded, but I'd like to hope you were drunk 'cuz that response was almost as pathetic as your first two posts.

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