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A fee to use the public library?

City manager’s suggestion gets cool reception

Len Hanson, of Lawrence, browses the shelves Wednesday at the Lawrence Public Library, 707 Vt. The library reports a dramatic upsurge in patrons in the past year, possibly as a result of the national economic crisis.

Len Hanson, of Lawrence, browses the shelves Wednesday at the Lawrence Public Library, 707 Vt. The library reports a dramatic upsurge in patrons in the past year, possibly as a result of the national economic crisis.

July 11, 2009

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Possible membership fee for Lawrence Public Library

A small membership fee is being considered by the city's library board. The fee would help the facility manage the tough economic times. Enlarge video

As City Hall contemplates a new fee for sidewalk maintenance and higher fees for parks and recreation services and downtown parking, here’s a new one to consider: A public library user fee.

City Manager David Corliss is suggesting that the city’s library board study the idea of a “modest membership fee” to reduce the library’s reliance on city property taxes, which have become a less stable funding source as the real estate market has suffered.

Thus far, the idea is being greeted a lot like a Dan Brown reading at a Shakespeare conference.

“I haven’t had time to really examine it, but at first glance, it seems like a very bad idea,” said City Commissioner Aron Cromwell.

Library board members said the library is serving larger numbers of low-income or unemployed people who likely would be hard-pressed to pay a new fee.

“I think there would be quite a backlash if we started charging user fees,” said Michael Machell, vice-chair of the library board.

But Corliss said he would like library leaders to keep an open mind to the idea. He said the library board could create its own rules on who would be required to pay the fee.

“We clearly want any child, regardless of income, to be able to check out a book at the library,” Corliss said. “I clearly agree with that value. But maybe there are ways to create a system for those who can afford to pay a fee.”

Ultimately, it will be up to the library board, not the City Commission, to determine whether a fee is appropriate. Unlike other city boards, the Public Library Board is not an advisory board. Its members — who are appointed by the City Commission — are charged with making the final decisions on how the library operates.

It’s not clear how much a new fee could generate because no specific fee amount has been proposed. But the library loaned out about 1.2 million items in 2008, and averaged about 9,100 visitors per week. The library receives about $3 million per year in city property tax dollars, which accounts for about 90 percent of the library’s overall budget.

Library board members said they are appreciative of Corliss’ concerns about the future of property tax revenues for the library, especially in 2011 when home values are expected to fall even farther.

“But a user fee would be a huge shift in philosophy for us to consider,” said Deborah Thompson, a library board member. “I think we would look at all kinds of funding options before we would look at charging fees.”

Cromwell said he thinks as the economy improves in the next couple of years, the community at large will be ready to consider new funding sources for an improved library.

“I’m very optimistic that we’re going to have a proposal to improve the library and improve its funding in the next two years,” Cromwell said. “If there isn’t one by then, I’ll bring one forward.”

Comments

pace 4 years, 9 months ago

Maybe the patrons and supporters of the library could form a long line at city hall and just slap Corlis,one by one, he could charge a fee.

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Bowhunter99 4 years, 9 months ago

I'm going to 'guess' that was_freashpowder2 has a car valued at under 15K since that's where he 'drew' the line...

typical hypocrite! always trying to tax other people and purposely exempting itself from the proposed tax...

15K considered a 'luxury car'? wtf?????

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Stain 4 years, 9 months ago

For this idea Corliss deserves to be booted from his job.

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breeze 4 years, 9 months ago

@Irish,

You're welcome. The searching wasn't that much effort and I was happy to do it. WorldCat is a great resource but it is something of a well kept secret. I think more people ought to make use of it ...

Another way of accessing WorldCat is through the public library's website. Start at

http://www.lawrence.lib.ks.us/research/index.html

scroll down to the section labelled "Books and Authors" and click on the "WorldCat (FirstSearch)" hyperlink. That will take you to a login screen where you enter your library card number.

Happy Bibliographic Trails to you. :-)

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yoornotmee 4 years, 9 months ago

What is this, Sam's Club? Just don't start charging for Storytime.

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demonfury 4 years, 9 months ago

The mere suggestion of this is not only terminally stupid, but as Mr. Flanders points out, it's illegal. WTF !!!!! How is it that Corliss is able to make suggestions to the Commission without validating the legality of the suggestion in the first place. This man is a Kansas State Bar Association registered lawyer? Really? Doesn't the Bar usually frown upon it's registered lawyers suggesting illegal practices? Like I've said time and time again, as long as Lawrence continues to vote dumb@$$ Democraps into the commission, this is the price you will pay. If you think the economy is bad now, wait until the almighty Obamanation is done with us. It will take 6-7 generations to fix his train wreck. Better get used to it people. Corliss will continue to find ways to make all of us pay for his and the commission's failures and poor decisions. The only way to change that is to vote out the majority Democrap commission, and vote in one with an actual spine that is connected to a functional brain. Unbelievable...... I wish someone like this Mr. Flanders fellow would lobby a few good lawyers to sue the city for Corliss' illegal action here and force his removal once and for all. That I would pay a fee for.

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Alexander Neighbors 4 years, 9 months ago

If you want to make a big impact on the budget short falls charge a luxury tax on people registering cars in Lawrence that have a value of over $15,000.00 dollars........

Or charge 10 dollars an hour for parking downtown raise the price of parking tickets to 70 dollars.

charge a 15% tax on luxury items.

Stop giving tax breaks to pharmaceutical companies to which the city leaders have stock in......

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Al Deathe 4 years, 9 months ago

The rest of the world is going to user fees why should the library be any different. Let those who use it pay for it. A small fee is still a bargain for all that you are getting.

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budwhysir 4 years, 9 months ago

Here is what I know, without paying a fee, I have read at least three articles in the local paper talking about our leaders in the city and state requesting a "study group" to review off the wall ideas that originate by the same leaders that are trying to make cuts in spending. A bad economy??? I think not. Bad ideas in politics??? I would have to say. Wonder why we never see requests for funding for studies like: How many political leaders are needed?? Do politicians make too much money??? Is government spending out of control?? Nope never plan on seeing study groups costing thousands of dollars to answer these questions.

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couranna1 4 years, 9 months ago

Charge for thye library Shows how silly lawrence is that it even spurs conversation LMAO @ lawrence again If I have to live in KS thank the power for JOCO

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barrypenders 4 years, 9 months ago

How can it be expected for anyone to have to pay for what they use! Raise taxes for everyone so that a few can use the library! I couldn't imagine not having to stimulus someone else's wants. Making everyone one bail out the wants of others is the progressive thing to do.

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bruceflanders 4 years, 9 months ago

I would like to thank the many, many posters who have spoken out in favor of free access to information and free public library service. This is very encouraging.

To reiterate my earlier post:

Charging a user fee for Lawrence residents would violate state law (KSA 12-1227), which requires that service be provided free to all residents.

Fortunately the Kansas Legislature had the foresight (and understanding of the value of free public library service in a democracy) to pass a law many years ago that affirms the value of no-fee library access. As another blogger noted, use of the Lawrence Public Library is “pre-paid” through the payment of property taxes that provide for the library's financial support.

For those citizens who wish to (and can afford to) provide additional support to the library, two non-governmental local organizations, the Friends of the Library and the Library Foundation, provide a mechanism for private financial support of the library. These organizations have been instrumental in raising funds for the Lawrence Public Library so that our collections, technology and services can be enhanced.

Respectfully,

Bruce Flanders Library Director

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pace 4 years, 9 months ago

'Of the 2,509 libraries Andrew Carnegie constructed .... All other towns, which received a library gift from Andrew Carnegie, were required to subsidize their library by an annual amount that, at least, equalled ten-percent of the cost of the library building, an arrangement soon dubbed "The Carnegie Formula." The ugliest regimes deny reading and literacy to populations.

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Jeanne Cunningham 4 years, 9 months ago

Not only MUST the library remain free, it would make more sense if kids - and adults - were paid to come use it. Ditto for the Rec Ctr!! If more people frequented places where they could actually improve their minds and bodies, the city's tab for police and court services would surely get much smaller. Make it easier for people to learn and get healthy, not harder. It's an old saying but just as true as ever, "idle hands (and minds) are the devil's workshop".

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I_AM_AN_ANARCHIST 4 years, 9 months ago

Pay_N_My_Way (Anonymous) says… Obamanomics hits the Library

I am in no ways an obama fan, but isn't a FREE public library a socialist Idea? The very thing you guys always accuse him of being. Don't care just confused.

Also of course homeless people use the library they are looking for a place to get out of the heat or cold and this place doesn't kick you out for not buying anything.

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Jaylee 4 years, 9 months ago

Fort_Aubrey (Anonymous) says…

"This from the guy who is recommending a new recreation center in West Lawrence?"

haha really?

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true_patriot 4 years, 9 months ago

Ridiculous. We're on the hook to guarantee profits for the new boondogle on the hill and talking about building expensive sports complexes and yet they keep coming up with ideas like making people pay to read at the library (which isn't even legal), and cutting crossing guards, closing the inexpensive Nature Center, and so forth.

If we are so broke that all they can come up with are absurdities like charging to read, then it's about time to implement the impact fees on new development that the Black and Veatch study recommended, put huge projects on hold unless they can be paid for with fed stim money, and quit issuing guarantees for minimum profits against our tax dollars to wealthy investment groups.

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David Roberts 4 years, 9 months ago

This is just the beginning...

Local Municipalities and States are just beginning to look under every rock for new sources of revenue. Of course, the Federal Government will just print it's way out of trouble (and impose a devastating invisible tax in the process).

And just wait until the effects of "Cap and Trade" hit.

"This pass-through of the permit cost in higher consumer prices is the primary way the cap-and-trade system would reduce the production of CO2 in the United States.

The Congressional Budget Office recently estimated that the resulting increases in consumer prices needed to achieve a 15 percent CO2 reduction -- slightly less than the Waxman-Markey target -- would raise the cost of living of a typical household by $1,600 a year. Some expert studies estimate that the cost to households could be substantially higher. The future cost to the typical household would rise significantly as the government reduces the total allowable amount of CO2." Source: Washington Post

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Fred Whitehead Jr. 4 years, 9 months ago

Don't worry, there will be money for more roundabouts. While the potholes in 31st street (the defacto Lawrence South Trafficway) go unmolested, and the mosquitos multiply at rates with 12 zeros). There will continue to be junkets to Germany and Japan by our city governments. There will continue to be consultants paid obscene fees to advise our completely clueless government.

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pace 4 years, 9 months ago

Carnegie just might jump out of his grave, walk over to City Hall and hit Corliss with a book. I wonder if Corliss has any knowledge of how Public libraries became such a power in the country.

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Leslie Swearingen 4 years, 9 months ago

breeze Thank you so much! I've really been wanting to read these books. I appreciate all the work you did.

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swampyankee 4 years, 9 months ago

I think we shuold tear down the library and put a round about there

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denak 4 years, 9 months ago

I realize that we are in difficult economic times right now but I think adding any kind of fee to use the library is unneccessary and contrary to what libraries are suppose to be. Free access to information is a benchmark for any free society and there should not be any impediment to anyone who needs or wants to access information. Libraries have always been a gateway to that free access and should remain so.

Secondly, as someone who uses the libary on almost a daily basis, there is hardly a better place, economically, for a family to enjoy. The libary has a wide range of books, CDs,magazines, newspapers, reference materials and movies for individuals to either view or check out. Seriously, where else can you get 10 movies for free and a late fee is only 10 cents? To me, people should be encouraged to use the library in order to free up their money to use elsewhere. Like pay all those other taxes the city wants us to. :0)

Dena

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esteshawk 4 years, 9 months ago

Haters-

It's Corliss' job to find funding sources. Instead of complaining, he should be applauded for thinking a little outside of the box. The city runs on property taxes, which have taken a hit with the falling economy. This means either the funding has to come from somewhere else, or services cut. It's easy to sit on your collective humps and complain about high taxes, but it also exposes ignorance. This concept would target those who use the service - which means your tax dollars could be spent on something else for you to complain about.

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Thinking_Out_Loud 4 years, 9 months ago

was_freashpowder2 wrote "...when you have the elite running the city they are looking out for the best interest of the elite, I dont blame them poor people dont have the resources to put up a good fight."

We have a winner! A social worker once asked me why the first place the legislature seems to cut during state budget crunches always seem to be children's services. You should have seen the light bulb go on in her eyes when I said "I'm just thinking out loud, but it occurs to me that children don't vote."

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breeze 4 years, 9 months ago

@Irish,

The novels you mentioned can likely be borrowed via Interlibrary Loan. Try asking a Reference Librarian to help you search for the titles again, and ask them to search in WorldCat (also known as OCLC to those in the library cataloging world). Show the librarian the results below if you need to.

You can do the same yourself, if you have Internet access, and verify the searching I've just done for you ...

http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/15624126?referer=br&ht=edition Masterton, Graham. The manitou. Owned by Topeka & Shawnee Co. Public Library

Scroll down to the section of the page labelled "Borrow or obtain a copy," enter your zip code and click on the "Find libraries" button.

The system will retrieve a list of libraries which own the item. You'll notice that they are hyperlinked, and clicking on the hyperlink will (usually) take you directly to the catalog of the library owning the item. (The software does some type of deep linking based on the book's ISBN number).

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http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/60560225&referer=brief_results Masterton, Graham. Manitou blood. Owned by Johnson County Library [requires library card # to log in to catalog]; Kansas City Kansas Public Library; Kansas City (Mo.) Public Library; Mid-Continent Public Library

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http://www.worldcat.org/ WorldCat is the public side of the OCLC bibliographic database.

OCLC is a huge database, international in scope, which contains bibliographic records for books, sound recordings, videorecordings, maps, sheet music, etc. owned in library collections. Much of this material can be requested via interlibrary loan (ILL), which is usually a free service.

You can access this resource and search it free of charge.

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macon47 4 years, 9 months ago

DUH? HOW STUPID ARE YOU PEOPLE

I pay an arm and leg in late fees to the Lawrence library. I think if there comes a time when I have to pay to borrow books then what I pay in late fees should be considered first. It is nice that the Topeka library doesn't charge late fees at all.

YOUR SOLUTION IS TO QUIT CHECKING OUT BOOKS AT THE LAWERENCE LIBRARY UNTILL YOU GROW UP

HOW CHILDISH

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alm77 4 years, 9 months ago

It's my understanding that it's Corliss's job to come up with ideas and the Commission to consider them. But this is probably the most ridiculous idea I have ever heard.

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couranna1 4 years, 9 months ago

LMAO @ lawrence for even thinking about this Lawrence is a cesspool

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Leslie Swearingen 4 years, 9 months ago

You can only use the computers at the library for one hour and then you have to give it up to the next person in line. Sometimes there is a long wait for one. I don't look at everyone that is in the library when I go to try to count how many homeless there are. I have always found it a very pleasant place. Except: they said they can't find The Manitou or Manitou Blood by Graham Masterton in any library. Anyone have an idea why that is?

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Bowhunter99 4 years, 9 months ago

rich people won't miss the 25K???? who are you to say what other people will or will not miss? You must be one of those hard-core BLIND democrats that are dying to spend other people's money...

Ask for a $0.50/book donation at check out... Those who can will gladly do so...

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pace 4 years, 9 months ago

Corliss is a direct line of inhouse City managers. We haven't changed much. Wildgen worked under Buford, Corliss worked under Wildgen. We need new blood. None have gutted the fat or incompetent from the city rolls or procedures. We need new blood. Someone without inhouse old boys ties to every department head and policy. Our city could be more efficient and leaner if culled of old boy practices and personnel systems. We have a need for at least a audit of practices of how our city works or more to the point.

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Alexander Neighbors 4 years, 9 months ago

practicality "Something has got to give"


You are totally right, we need to tax someone how about a group of people these people who make more than 300,000.00 a year get taxed at a higher rate to recoup the loss from the city the rich people wont miss the $25,000 in taxes......

Or the city could cut the police staff.... Or the city could hold events like (wakarusa Festival)... Or breaks for current business to motivate growth... There are a ton of creative things that can be done, then to resort to taxing the lowest income group of the community. I guess when you have the elite running the city they are looking out for the best interest of the elite, I dont blame them poor people dont have the resources to put up a good fight.

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Practicality 4 years, 9 months ago

Listen people, I do not like this idea very much either, but it is becoming quite clear that the city does not have enough money to operate as it has been. Something has got to give. Either the city has to start raising the revenue it is short from places it has not been, or things have to be curtailed a bit. Everybody can point to other things to raise the revenue from, or we can start cutting down on other expenditures (which I am for) to try and make up the shortfall. I do not want to see a user charge at the library, and I do think there are other ways to prevent that. But, somethings have got to change, and the city can not keep spending more money than it has. Unfortunately, that means either higher taxes, user fees for public services, or cutting existing public programs and social services. Money does not grow on any tree in Lawrence.

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Alexander Neighbors 4 years, 9 months ago

I guess next the city is going to charge a nominal fee for breathing clean lawrence air, since there has been an upsurge in the demand for air.

(move to Oregon no sales tax) (move to Washington state no Income Tax)

live in washington shop in Oregon abd be subjected to NO income tax & NO Sales TAX

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pace 4 years, 9 months ago

i would guess that Mr. Clueless doesn't have a library card. Does he have children?

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lhanson 4 years, 9 months ago

This is surely the most ill-considered and off-the-wall idea to come out of city government since I moved here almost fifty years ago--one that will hurt citizens and bring shame to our community. Oh, almost forgot, it also violates state law.

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tir 4 years, 9 months ago

Use of the public library has been way up this year due to the economy. Many people are going there to check out books and movies and to use the internet because they are having to cut back on their entertainment budgets, and all of these things are available at the library for free. User fees would hurt the very people who need this service the most. I think it would be a very bad idea. Couldn't the library do more fundraising events? The booksales are great, but obviously more revenue is needed.

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sad_lawrencian 4 years, 9 months ago

This is a very very very very bad idea. Public libraries are supposed to be free!

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tangential_reasoners_anonymous 4 years, 9 months ago

Maybe they could sell off all the books, to generate needed revenue.

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4 years, 9 months ago

It was nice to hear the director stand up for the library.

People who want to charge for the library use are those who do not understand the importance of education.

I pay AN ARM AND LEG in late fees to the Lawrence library. I think if there comes a time when I have to pay to borrow books then what I pay in late fees should be considered first. It is nice that the Topeka library doesn't charge late fees at all.

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cheeseburger 4 years, 9 months ago

Hey waka dude- Whaddya think about having to pay a fee to go hang out on the library's computer all day long? You might have to spend more time downtown panhandling to cover the new fees!

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Fred Whitehead Jr. 4 years, 9 months ago

I have said it many times before and will say it again. The city manager is hired by the city commission, but he gives the orders. The comissioners are clueless, gutless and spineless, they follow his orders. Coreless is inept, out of touch, and un-elected, he can do as he pleases and the sleeping commission will accept his guidance. As for this library fee stuff, well, this is yet another event that the city is very poorly served by these wonks elected by the number of yard signs they can buy or have their friends buy, and this city manager (who is, yes. a lawyer) will continue unabated with his stupid plans and objectives. Coreless should have gone a long time ago, but with the current commission of disconnected individuals, don't hold your breath.

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7texdude 4 years, 9 months ago

This guy is making people from Missouri look like Einstein. What a genius..........If they do this, then it would be another nail in the coffin for downtown. Go ahead and give me another reason to never go downtown.

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pace 4 years, 9 months ago

Corlis is really being stupid here.

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Danimal 4 years, 9 months ago

I've got an idea, lets just close the public library and be done with it. Seriously, the library is only used by people that live east of Iowa anyway, and we know they aren't real people. We can give the money saved to developers as a gift for all the wonderful things that they've done for Lawrence.

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Nicholas Eshelman 4 years, 9 months ago

I'm a librarian and I doubt that you could find a single librarian on the planet who would support this idiotic idea. I don't live in Lawrence anymore, but in all the years I was there nothing quite as stupid was ever proposed by a city official, and that includes Mike Rundle, which is saying quite a bit.

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Boeing 4 years, 9 months ago

BigPrune:

Really? Still? Have you never looked into a cost-benefit analysis of how much might be lost if a single student does not come to KU because of the $300/year fee (not counting summer school)? Meaning, one less student spending money on gas, groceries, clothes, food, alcohol, movies, etc. etc.? I bet it would add up to more than $300/year...so it would actually hurt the city more.

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KansasPerson 4 years, 9 months ago

Is this the same guy who proposed charging a fee to the little toddlers who use the wading pool in South Park?

And painting advertising logos on the bottom of the municipal pool?

I must say he's inventive.

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farfle 4 years, 9 months ago

The first thing the city needs to do is to rework its salary structure. Most of the jobs pay double what they are worth.

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KS 4 years, 9 months ago

What a great idea! About time. Oh where, oh where will these people who comment on these web pages go to find a free computer?

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Andrew Stahmer 4 years, 9 months ago

OK, apparently our library cannot be run correctly.

Time to bring in Barak Obama as the new head librarian!

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Thinking_Out_Loud 4 years, 9 months ago

lionheart, Corliss was not elected; in answer to 3upand3down's question, he was appointed by the City Commission. (Whose members were elected, lionheart.) This is elementary civics.

The library is a fantastic resource. The user fee is a lousy idea. In a democratic society, a resource provides access to knowledge, ideas, thoughts, and entertainment to all segments of the society, without regard to their resources. A very democratic idea, indeed. We need to value and support institutions like this.

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booyalab 4 years, 9 months ago

If it would increase the quality of use, I'm all for it (and with the homeless people, like someone mentioned, I think it would) But maybe there could be some accommodation for younger patrons, like no fee for under 18 with adult supervision.

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gsxr600 4 years, 9 months ago

"Just charge the students a “$150 per semester impact fee” since they tear up our town"

A bit of a blanket statement you got there buddy. I've lived in Lawrence my entire life, go to KU, and pay property taxes as it is. But of course because I'm a college student it must be assumed I cause destruction and chaos everywhere I go.

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Hydra 4 years, 9 months ago

How about a "pay to play" fee on goverment officials? Let's make it equal to any unexplained jumps in personal wealth while in elected office.

That should get our government at all levels in the black in record time.

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Mary Darst 4 years, 9 months ago

No...prevents too many from being able to use the facility.

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Fort_Aubrey 4 years, 9 months ago

Prune, you can just increase the property taxes for apartments, since that is how the students pay their property anyway. Well, that and sales tax. Ooops. I guess they do pay taxes, don't they?

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iLikelawrence 4 years, 9 months ago

Pull in money by actually collecting all the late fines. That'd bring in a bit would be my guess.

The KU student tax is old, drop it. You just sound like a crotchety old, well, prune.

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OonlyBonly 4 years, 9 months ago

I suggest we have a "Hang-Corliss-in-Effigy" party - somewhere around the Library. Buford S Watson Park comes to mind. Now there was a City Manger (as also was his (Corliss' immediate predecessor)!

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been_there 4 years, 9 months ago

Looks like Corliss didn't do his homework, thankfully he didn't pay thousands to a consultant to find out he couldn't do it. Did he talk to Mr. Flanders before presenting this idea?

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Leslie Swearingen 4 years, 9 months ago

Mr. Flanders I would like to extend my thanks and gratitude for the great job you and your staff do.

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bruceflanders 4 years, 9 months ago

Kudos to the two Library Board trustees quoted in the article, both of whom expressed their opposition to user fees.

Charging a user fee for Lawrence residents would violate state law (KSA 12-1227), which requires that service be provided free to all residents.

Fortunately the Kansas Legislature had the foresight (and understanding of the value of free public library service in a democracy) to pass a law many years ago that affirms the value of no-fee library access. As another blogger noted, use of the Lawrence Public Library is "pre-paid" through the payment of property taxes that provide for the library's financial support.

For those citizens who wish to (and can afford to) provide additional support to the library, two non-governmental local organizations, the Friends of the Library and the Library Foundation, provide a mechanism for private financial support of the library. These organizations have been instrumental in raising funds for the Lawrence Public Library so that our collections, technology and services can be enhanced.

Bruce Flanders Library Director

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gl0ck0wn3r 4 years, 9 months ago

"RichardHecklerBot (Anonymous) says…That said there is an expensive project that is not truly necessary at this time which could be put on hold. The 1,505 acre Clinton Lake Regional Park is quite an expensive project that eats away at the 1995 one cent sales tax cookie jar.

Is a library important to a community? Absolutely. Why couldn't money for the regional park be diverted to the library?"

Fascinating. Richard suggests in another post that this park deflates the argument for a study about another park on the west side. So which is it, Richard?

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Leslie Swearingen 4 years, 9 months ago

Granted I did spend some time at the library when I was homeless. I appreciate the kindness I was shown by the people who worked there. They are great people. I got to do some research I had been putting off, and when I took a class on the Maccabees at St. Johns, I was able to do what I call my "Hermione." "Okay, does anyone in the class know this? (pause) Anyone other than Irish?" It would depend on what the fee is going to be. If it is going to be something like ten dollars I year I could pay that. I understand the high cost of keeping a library currant.

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bronze 4 years, 9 months ago

will the fee be by the hour or by the day?

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cowboy 4 years, 9 months ago

Another Coreless fabulous raise your costs idea. At what point will the city wake up and get rid of this loser. 157 million dollar budget that he and his staff can find no way to reduce. He has had an extremely lackluster few years in this position and I am hard pressed to recall any favorable results due to his efforts other than annual status quo budgets and raising fees , taxes , and whining.

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TacoBob 4 years, 9 months ago

All hardworking citizens pay a fee for the library already - in the form of taxes. Exclude those that cannot pay the proposed 'extra' fee (kids, low income, etc.), and then you are left double-taxing the remainder.

Just call it what it is - a tax hike.

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BigPrune 4 years, 9 months ago

Just charge the students a "$150 per semester impact fee" since they tear up our town, and since KU doesn't pay any property taxes. If KU were a private business, the KU clowns would call it corporate welfare. The fee would take care of all of the city's financial problems.

25,000 X $150 = $3,750,000 X 2 = $7,500,000 per year then 10,000 X $150 = $1,500,000 (for summer school)

$7,500,000 $1,500,000


$9,000,000 per year (and it wouldn't effect the normal people who live here)

Make KU pay its fair share and quit subsidizing these students' abuse of our infrastructure....and by all means make it mandatory they take drivers education before they start school. They drive like crap!

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Fort_Aubrey 4 years, 9 months ago

This from the guy who is recommending a new recreation center in West Lawrence?

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8muddyboots 4 years, 9 months ago

WOW - that's embarrassing. Totally goes against what public libraries are supposed to be about.... Corliss totally screwed the pooch on this one - or did he? He definitely got our attention & illustrated a point.

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skinny 4 years, 9 months ago

Ya, go ahead and charge a fee to use the Lawrence Library. All the homeless hang out there anyway.

I'll go to Topeka or Olathe and use their libraries for free

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3up3down 4 years, 9 months ago

What a jerk. Who put this idiot in charge? In a day and age where electronic media has taken over imagination, let's make it harder for kids to enjoy reading. Let's make them PAY to enjoy reading. It is hard enough to get kids to read today,

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Richard Heckler 4 years, 9 months ago

There might some pressure from the boss aka city commissioners. The city manager does have 5 immediate supervisors. The city manager is hired by city commissioners.

That said there is an expensive project that is not truly necessary at this time which could be put on hold. The 1,505 acre Clinton Lake Regional Park is quite an expensive project that eats away at the 1995 one cent sales tax cookie jar.

Is a library important to a community? Absolutely. Why couldn't money for the regional park be diverted to the library?

Sales Tax

The City of Lawrence General Fund receives forty-four percent (44%) of its revenue from sales tax. The City receives revenue from two sources of sales tax: a City-wide sales tax of one percent, all of which goes to the City of Lawrence and a share of the one percent County-wide sales tax.

A city retailer’s sales tax of 0.5% was instituted July 1, 1971, followed by an additional 0.5% that went into effect October 1, 1990. This one percent city retailer’s sales tax has followed an upward swing throughout the last two decades (through 2001), as evidenced by the graph and chart following this report. After a slight leveling off in 2002 followed by a slight increase in 2003, we are predicting a continued slow growth in sales tax for 2005. Consumer confidence in the economy has been gradually increasing and consumer spending has rebounded recently. With cautious optimism as our guide, our projections for 2005 ($11,800,000) predict slight growth over the actual 2003 receipts ($11,392,377).

The County-wide sales tax of one percent was approved in a November, 1994 election and became effective in 1995. We are projecting $8,000,000 in revenue for 2005 from the City’s share of the county-wide sales tax, which represents a slight increase over the $7,501,459 receipts for 2003. Assumptions behind this projection are similar to those described above.

http://208.191.35.57/search?q=1995+Sales+Tax&site=citywide&client=my_frontend&proxystylesheet=my_frontend&output=xml_no_dtd&site=citywide&x=25&y=6

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CLARKKENT 4 years, 9 months ago

FOLKS IN LAWRENCE, WAKE UP, PLEASE

CORLISS HASN'T A CLUE!!!!!!

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Chris Ogle 4 years, 9 months ago

We are paying membership fees already. Lawrence is so special.

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Stuart Evans 4 years, 9 months ago

"But maybe there are ways to create a system for those who can afford to pay a fee.”


I've heard this plan somewhere before...it's just like the new gov't plan on healthcare. I believe during the election they called it redistribution of wealth. Obama & Corliss are cut from the same cloth.

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lionheart72661 4 years, 9 months ago

Why was this clown elected? All he wants to do is tax the citizens of Lawrence one way or another. i do believe this is the second time in as many weekd we've heard of him wanting to charge us for something. I too will pay an annual fee if needed but i agree, there are kids and others that simply cannot. Does this clown even think before he acts?

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awelles 4 years, 9 months ago

I use the library a lot and I realize these are difficult economic times; especially for state and local governments. I'd be willing to pay an annual and renewal card fee, if asked. But children and those who simply feel they cannot afford a fee should be able to say "No" without comment.

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geekin_topekan 4 years, 9 months ago

"... a Dan Brown reading at a Shakespeare conference." +++ How about, "as popular as a turd in a swimming pool"

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