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KU football assistants on their way out

KU defensive coordinator Clint Bowen celebrates after a first-half defensive stop against Oklahoma on Saturday, Oct. 24, 2009, at Memorial Stadium.

KU defensive coordinator Clint Bowen celebrates after a first-half defensive stop against Oklahoma on Saturday, Oct. 24, 2009, at Memorial Stadium.

December 16, 2009, 1:03 a.m. Updated December 16, 2009, 6:34 p.m.

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Say this about first-year Kansas University football coach Turner Gill: He works fast.

According to a source with knowledge of the situation, Gill is not expected to retain any of the assistant coaches remaining from Mark Mangino's staff, with the possible exception of receivers coach David Beaty.

On Monday, Gill named Chuck Long his offensive coordinator and Carl Torbush as his defensive coordinator, and said he intended to speak with some of the remaining members of the Kansas staff about their potential future with the program.

Among those not expected to return are offensive coordinator Ed Warinner, a finalist for the American Football Coaches Association National Assistant Coach of the Year Award this season, and defensive coordinator Clint Bowen, who played defensive back at Kansas in the mid-1990s and just completed his ninth season with the program.

Other coaches presumed to be let go include linebackers coach/co-defensive coordinator Bill Miller, tight ends coach/recruiting coordinator Brandon Blaney, cornerbacks coach Je'Ney Jackson, defensive line coach Tom Sims, offensive line coach/run-game coordinator John Reagan, running backs coach/special teams coordinator Louie Matsakis and strength and conditioning coach Chris Dawson.

As of Tuesday night, all but Beaty had been removed from the staff directory on the school's Web site.

Gill has officially named Long, Torbush and tight ends/special teams coach Aaron Stamn as members of his staff for next season.

Comments

gccs14r 5 years, 1 month ago

How many assistant coaches does a college football coach need? At what point do you have too many cooks spoiling the meal?

shadowbox66044 5 years, 1 month ago

gccs14r (Anonymous) says…

How many assistant coaches does a college football coach need? At what point do you have too many cooks spoiling the meal?


gccs14r, it's a football team, not a cooking show.

leedavid 5 years, 1 month ago

Eight to ten assistant coaches are needed per team. Given the offense and defense we had last season, who would want to keep someone with those results? KU football needs a fresh start and keeping those coaches does not make that happen

KEITHMILES05 5 years, 1 month ago

This is Gill's call as coach. It is customary many if not all previous coaches are not retained. No big deal.

Nikki May 5 years, 1 month ago

I agree about hiring family members, but they all seem to do it.

Kawatchi 5 years, 1 month ago

Par for the course. Coaches generally build their own coaching staffs.

vladislav 5 years, 1 month ago

Talk about biting the hand that feeds you...nobody is worse than Kansas fans when it comes to Perkins. Why is he so hated in Kansas when he consistently brings in talent, money, and WINS?! Does he not share any of the credit for the state of bball at KU? Does he not deserve credit for KU's brief success in football (lets remember that football at KU is equivalent of basketball at Nebraska).

This is like the people who don't like Boone Pickens at OSU. Complain about them enough and they might take their talent someplace else.

onetime97 5 years, 1 month ago

In this day in age, recruits(and their handlers) read these comments/blogs/etc and take these things into consideration as well, while it's nice to complain about a blown play or something but constant bickering about the direction of KU athletics will hurt the coaches trying to recruit to KU. Just as much as you want stability in your job, recruits do to!

OldEnuf2BYurDad 5 years, 1 month ago

"There goes the “nice guy” image."

You don't know much about football.

jayhawks71 5 years, 1 month ago

"Why is he [Perkins] so hated in Kansas when he consistently brings in talent, money, and WINS?"

  1. Talent: Remind me of which talent Lew has hired? He sure didn't hire Mangino or Self. He has hired the women's basketball coach and the softball coach.

"Does he not deserve credit for KU's brief success in football " Yes. He does not deserve credit for that. Mark Mangino does. See 2 below.

  1. WINS: Which team does Lew coach? I thought we hired coaches to do the job of winning. People sure want to fire the coach when they lose. Perhaps I have this issue confused.

"Does he not deserve credit for KU's brief success in football " Why would he deserve credit for it, especially when he played no role in hiring the coach and primary reason he kept the coach was because he [Mangino] was getting paid? See 3. below.

  1. Money: Can someone remind me of the top reason people donate and attend? People fund a winner. See 2 above.

And I really have very little issue with Perkins other than the hiring of family, which seems a bit tacky. I'm not justifying the hatred of the man, but I can take issue with the rationale given.

grammaddy 5 years, 1 month ago

So sorry to see Je'Ney Jackson go. His kids have been in school with my grandsons since pre-school. I wish him the best of luck in finding a new job. JaKobi and JaBari will miss you Dante and Trey!!

Michelle Hayes 5 years, 1 month ago

vladislav..."Why is he so hated in Kansas when he consistently brings in talent, money, and WINS?!"

Perkins isn't out there playing or coaching...what does he do? He brings in a coach, tries to make it work, win some games, spend lots of money on the stadiums, and when a few things go wrong, then we start all over again...oh, and get paid a whole lot of money to do that. (wait...what was it that he does again?)

ranger73 5 years, 1 month ago

Isn't this the staff that also let the "abuse" by Mangino go unchecked for 7 years and not speak up or say anything?

Zachary Stoltenberg 5 years, 1 month ago

Jayhwak71 hits the nail squarely on the head. Speaking of, Why does Lew's bald head come to a point? Is it all the scowling or the constant conniving to get rid of coaches who refuse to sit under your thumb? mark my words, Bill Self is next. I believe it will take losing Self for people in this town to finally rise up and unseat the all powerful benevolent Perkins.

Jim Williamson 5 years, 1 month ago

Sweet screaming Jesus on a ferris wheel -- I am amazed at how little people know about what an athletic director does.

And don't worry about those assistant coaches. They're a good group of men. They'll land on their feet just fine.

Haiku_Cuckoo 5 years, 1 month ago

Perkins doesn't have any family members currently working in the Athletic Department.

Just thought I'd point that out.

Larry Bauerle 5 years, 1 month ago

New coaches ALWAYS hire a new staff. Considering the fact that none of you have the authority, power or connections to even cause Lew Perkins a minor irritation, let alone get him fired, why don't you just shut up about him and stop including him on EVERY post.

Keith 5 years, 1 month ago

"onetime97 (Anonymous) says… In this day in age, recruits(and their handlers) read these comments/blogs/etc and take these things into consideration as well, while it's nice to complain about a blown play or something but constant bickering about the direction of KU athletics will hurt the coaches trying to recruit to KU. Just as much as you want stability in your job, recruits do to!"

So we should curb our speech based on what a prospective athlete may or may not do? Thank you , no. Anything else we shouldn't talk about?

royalpain 5 years, 1 month ago

Keith (Anonymous) says…

“onetime97 (Anonymous) says… In this day in age, recruits(and their handlers) read these comments/blogs/etc and take these things into consideration as well, while it's nice to complain about a blown play or something but constant bickering about the direction of KU athletics will hurt the coaches trying to recruit to KU. Just as much as you want stability in your job, recruits do to!”

So we should curb our speech based on what a prospective athlete may or may not do? Thank you , no. Anything else we shouldn't talk about?


These comments are not "speech", Keith. They're all cowardly anonymous jabs thrown by people who have no firsthand knowledge of what goes in at Kansas Athletics.

1029 5 years, 1 month ago

The best thing about the Mangino-Gill coaching change is no more Clint Bowen!

Keith 5 years, 1 month ago

"royalpain (Anonymous) says… –––––––––––––– These comments are not “speech”, Keith. They're all cowardly anonymous jabs thrown by people who have no firsthand knowledge of what goes in at Kansas Athletics."

Shows how little you know, if panhandling is speech, anonymous commenting certainly is.

filapino 5 years, 1 month ago

Family members hired on? like Ronnie Chalmers being hired on when Mario signed his LOI?

kchawk18 5 years, 1 month ago

Perkins doesn't hire family members, but he does hire close personal friends of his wife.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 5 years, 1 month ago

I expect that every major sporting institution in the country has a similar group of sports experts spouting off on the local sports scene. So I doubt that what's said here will have any effect on recruiting.

dr_k 5 years, 1 month ago

I hope they take Lew Perkins with them

jayhawks71 5 years, 1 month ago

"Perkins doesn't have any family members currently working in the Athletic Department. Just thought I'd point that out."

Sorry, I didn't know that his son-in-law, Brandon Macneill, was no longer in the department. Regardless, he hired his son-in-law as associate AD. What's done is done. Like I said, that was the main thing that rubbed me the wrong way. Also, I never quite understood why Ronnie Chalmers (or Ed Manning for that matter), who curiously got jobs when their sons came to KU and left when their sons were no longer at KU, could get jobs working for the KU basketball team.

jayhawks71 5 years, 1 month ago

"Sweet screaming Jesus on a ferris wheel — I am amazed at how little people know about what an athletic director does."

Why don't you inform us then, Mr. Bohl?

kristyj 5 years, 1 month ago

What about Mangino's radio boy???? He's cute, will he still be around??

california 5 years, 1 month ago

"Cold" wrote:

"JaKobi and JaBari?? Are you serious?"

I thought the SAME exact thing when I read that. That is the most ridiculous thing on all 39 or so posts so far. Poor kids. I'm sure when they grow up their favorite saying will be "JaMaican me crazy!!!!!"

kujayhawk 5 years, 1 month ago

"Isn't this the staff that also let the “abuse” by Mangino go unchecked for 7 years and not speak up or say anything?"

No, this is the staff that suffered from the abuse.

MrShades 5 years, 1 month ago

Today's bit of Wisdom from the Dr. "Never criticize a man, until you have walked a mile in his shoes." You internet wonders have no idea what Lew has done for the student athletes at KU. You should ask them how they feel about Lew,

Oh, and kristy, I believe the cute radio boy was Tommy, probably won't be seeing him on the sidelines anymore, sorry.

grammaddy 5 years, 1 month ago

cold-california- the problem is???1 I guess you have nothing better to do than make fun of a couple of kids' names. What does that have to do with the post. I sure hope they never run into "adults" like you. I bet you use Obama's middle name when talking about him too. Like any of them had a choice in their names.

ohgeeze 5 years, 1 month ago

grammaddy-

my thoughts exactly. How jerky do you have to be...

My brother has been best friends with a JaBari for the last 10 years or so...when you hear a name all the time they stop being "different" and "weird"

Not everyone can be named William, Bill, Billy, Mac or Buddy... how would we ever look someone up in the phone book! (or I suppose Facebook...)

4everahawk 5 years, 1 month ago

royalpain: what makes you know so much about what an AD does? ever worked for one? they sit on a throne (or at least some of them do) and smile when things go their way and fire people when they don't. SA's say they like him because he will find them a job after graduation somewhere even if they are not qualified. If I knew that would be my 'gift' for being nice to him, then maybe I would also.

anon1958 5 years, 1 month ago

Lew certainly knew about Mangino's temper and other behaviors but waited until it served his purposes to act against Mangino.

This makes Lew a huge hypocrite and as well as a the liar he is known to be. He screwed over the football players with his poorly timed self serving drama.

Why are you morons defending Perkins. Liar + Hypocrite = A$$hole. That is plenty of reason to despise the man.

Richard Payton 5 years, 1 month ago

Football gura Tom Osborne recommends Turner Gill to Mr. Perkins as a good hire. Thanks Mr. Perkins for listening to a football legend.

4everahawk 5 years, 1 month ago

Son-in-law now works at Tulane. Salary at KU was huge. This is available through Open Records. Best chance to get a job in athletics is either to be related, former UConn staffer, young and REALLY pretty, or be related to a coach.

Frightwig 5 years, 1 month ago

I've never seen so many hostile and misinformed buffoons in a single thread. Sad, really.

bigt 5 years, 1 month ago

Did you really think he would keep the bumbling baffons like Clint Bowen and the rest of the defensive coaches. Let face Bowen should have never gotten the job to begin with. The only defense they had was when Bill young was here. I am a season ticket holder and I am glad the change came, cause if they would have not changed we would have had to put up with another year of the Bowen and his idiots.

lewstinks 5 years, 1 month ago

I too am thrilled that Bowen is gone! I might have to reconsider giving up my football tickets for next year.

Lew is responsible for raising wads of $$$, but at what expense? Allen hasn't been sold out for one game this season. It's not as loud or hostile as it used to be. I have season tickets and am sitting by someone different every game. Lew ran out most of true fans with his evil points system which changes constantly and is unfair.

AND Lew needs to be held accountable for what happened under his watch (eventhough it was a witch hunt).

TopJayhawk 5 years, 1 month ago

You have to remember. it is the same twenty-thirty people who do all the hating on here about the athletic. dept. Most of these people talk like they are the original sports supporters in town when in actuality, most have porbably never been to a game. It is obvious most don't know too much about athletics. they are jealous and bitter. they need to hate someone.
Ignore them.

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