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White House will probe Air Force One stunt

April 29, 2009

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— The White House plans an inquiry into a low-flying photo shoot by a presidential plane that panicked New Yorkers and cost taxpayers $328,835. President Barack Obama said Tuesday it won’t happen again.

But the origins of the government public relations stunt that went awry remained an engrossing mystery — and a potential political problem for Obama. The White House military office approved the photo-op, which cost $35,000 in fuel alone for the plane and two jet fighter escorts.

“I think this is one of those rare cases where we can all agree it was a mistake,” Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell said of Monday’s “unfortunate” flight low over the Hudson River that for many on the ground evoked chilling memories of 9/11.

The sight of the huge passenger jet and an F-16 fighter plane whizzing past the Statue of Liberty and the lower Manhattan financial district sent panicked office workers streaming into the streets.

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jumpin_catfish 4 years, 11 months ago

Typical response from bozo, anyway what if someone would have been injured or killed in a panic. I don't blame Obama directly but he should have already fired someone and yes the media is giving him a pass. He's the president and the buck stops with him, the media should never give any president a pass on anything. He has too much power and the danger for abuse is always there. Remember the patriot act people, this guy is hell bent on total government control seems to me. Media better watch him close I say.

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Pilgrim2 4 years, 11 months ago

vertigo (Jesse Crittenden) says…

Got any thoughts of your own or do you have to have someone else do your thinking for you?


You gonna ask the same question of Richard Heckler?

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notajayhawk 4 years, 11 months ago

oceanspray (Anonymous) says…

"why dont you worry more about paying off some of your debt and taxes"

Good advice - for the president.

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oceanspray 4 years, 11 months ago

marion sidney lynn- a diversion from what? my god you are such an idiot. why dont you worry more about paying off some of your debt and taxes before you think you have some kind of voice here.

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notajayhawk 4 years, 11 months ago

"All it would have taken is a simple friggin press release. Doesn't have to include exact altitudes, exact times, aircraft specs, etc."

Actually, I understand the secrecy. It wouldn't take much for someone with a shoulder-fired missile to get a very good photo-op of his own.

The choice appears to have been:

A) Do it as a surprise flyby and cause the expected panic (and it was expected). B) Announce it and put the plane at risk. C) None of the above.

(The correct answer is 'C' - no matter how anyone adds it up, it was a very stupid thing to do.)

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Roland Gunslinger 4 years, 11 months ago

Gotcha, thanks for clarifying. I misinterpreted your post as being snide to my original comment. My apologies.

We are seeing the "pricetag" of this flight displayed all over the place. I know it was a training flight but the news mentions it almost as a snarky aside. John Q. Public thinks we (the Air Force) just wasted a massive amount of money but doing low level fly-bys with AF 1 over Lower Manhattan, and because there wasn't an announcement of this, people freaked out. Quite understandably in some cases. There are legitimate cases of PTSD, and there will be triggers. I knew two Vietnam vets of 1st Air Cav who get flashbacks because of firework sounds...so they don't go to displays, or if they do, they at least knew what to expect. I know a guy who was in "the pit" on the 11th and afterwards, who now can't stand flying. I'm sure there are a lot more.

All it would have taken is a simple friggin press release. Doesn't have to include exact altitudes, exact times, aircraft specs, etc.

That being said I do know a few pilots (Air Force) who have done low levels over NYC... in the same area that the VC-25 flew. Both pre and post 9/11. Nothing was ever said about those.

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notajayhawk 4 years, 11 months ago

vertigo (Jesse Crittenden) says…

"No need I'll answer this myself. Go back and re-read my statement. Never did I say flying a low level over a major city was common."

Never did I claim you did. My comment was meant to point out that very thing to kmat, who appeared to be trying to use your post to justify the event.

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Roland Gunslinger 4 years, 11 months ago

notajayhawk (Anonymous) says…

Since you respect Vertigo's opinion, ask him how many of those 'almost daily' flights are low-level buzzings of a city that lost thousands of people from a deliberate aircraft attack on its most visible landmark.

No need I'll answer this myself. Go back and re-read my statement. Never did I say flying a low level over a major city was common. Just that training missions are common (they are flown everyday) and that the pilots and crew of the VC-25 also have to complete mandatory training hours in the air in the VC-25 just like every other Air Force pilot that maintains currency. I made this point to those who were complaining about the cost.

I also said that whomever authorized the low level without briefing the Pres and without notifying the public should be called to the carpet.


Godot (Anonymous) says… When you are the president, you can delegate authority, but you cannot delegate responsibility.


The above is a direct quote from Rush Limbaugh's show on 4/29. Got any thoughts of your own or do you have to have someone else do your thinking for you?

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notajayhawk 4 years, 11 months ago

Irish (Irish Swearingen) says…

"This is not a big deal. The people who panicked acted with their emotion mind, not their rational mind. 9/11 was a long time ago now."

As someone who lost friends in that attack, Irish, I can assure you that its effects are still felt daily by the people in Manhattan. But hey, what the heck - maybe the people of Hiroshima wouldn't mind having a nuclear plant water tower on the horizon to look at every day.

Cretin.


snap_pop_no_crackle (Anonymous) says…

"beobachter (Anonymous) says… …Ok, I'm done, you don't need to ban my account, I won't be back."

[Sigh]

We can only wish, snap.


jaywalker (Anonymous) says…

"Bozo's posts have been even more ridiculous and brainless than normal. I think he's rampin' it up 'cuz he saw logrithmic had rapidly become the biggest jackass on these boards and he wants his title back."

While loggie is indeed quite a jacka__, jw, boohoozo has nothing to fear.


just_another_bozo_on_this_bus (Anonymous) says…

"You guys are so predicable."

If by 'predictable' you mean it wasn't exactly unexpected that you'd get laughed off the thread, then yes, I guess we are predictable.

As was your usual mindless non-response, typical for when you realize that nobody's buying your load of cr*p - which is pretty much always.

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notajayhawk 4 years, 11 months ago

kmat (Anonymous) says…

"I feel sorry for the 20% of you that are left in this country."

I feel sorry for people that can't read. While the O'dude is popular (as virtually every president is during the honeymoon period), the latest generic congressional ballots have dropped to a 6-point lead for the Dems in the RCP average, with some polls having the Republicans ahead.

"people feel like the country is moving in the right direction"

Um - no. Again, the latest RCP average has more people saying 'wrong track' than 'right direction,' led by that notable conservative bastion of polling, Quinnipiac, which has 63% of the country saying 'wrong track.'

"what's left of moderate republicans are bailing out because Obama and the dems are the only sensible party left"

If you're refering to Specter, the Republicans lost - nothing. It's not as if he voted Republican. And he didn't exactly 'bail out.' Whenever a turncoat like Specter leaves, it's always the same tired line: "The party has moved too far to the right ... [yada yada yada]" as if GW was an arch-conservative. The fact is that he had no possibility of winning the primary in PA (losing would have been no mean feat for someone with his seniority), as the Republicans in PA had decided he had moved too far to the left.

"Vertigo has it correct. Anyone from the military understands that these planes are going to be flown almost everyday"

Since you respect Vertigo's opinion, ask him how many of those 'almost daily' flights are low-level buzzings of a city that lost thousands of people from a deliberate aircraft attack on its most visible landmark.

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Flap Doodle 4 years, 11 months ago

28 March 2009 at 6:40 p.m. beobachter (Anonymous) says… ...Ok, I'm done, you don't need to ban my account, I won't be back.

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beobachter 4 years, 11 months ago

Are you saying Irish is really a Republican?

Snap, if you give Obama a .4 GPA, I would assume on same grading scale W would get a -10.4 GPA?

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Pilgrim2 4 years, 11 months ago

Irish (Irish Swearingen) says…

9/11 was a long time ago now.


Obviously written by someone with the attention span (and memory) of a two-year-old.

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Leslie Swearingen 4 years, 11 months ago

This is not a big deal. The people who panicked acted with their emotion mind, not their rational mind. 9/11 was a long time ago now. Anyone know of an office pool with people betting on which is going to happen first: 1. Get carried away in a flood. 2. Get squashed flat by a tornado. 3. Get killed by the flu.

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jaywalker 4 years, 11 months ago

"Anyone from the military understands that these planes are going to be flown almost everyday"

No, they're not. They'll do a burn just about every day, warm up the engines on the tarmac, but they don't put 'em in the air every day. Operations and systems checks are routinely done on the ground. There's no need to fly any planes on a daily basis.

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Flap Doodle 4 years, 11 months ago

One version of Barry's report card: B.H. Obama Economics: F - he may not be a socialist, but his policies clearly are History: F - rejecting what works in favor of what gets votes is the way of the fool Defense: D - Obama is weaking America's resolve and ability Constitution: D - fast and loose is not the presidential standard Judiciary: incomplete Leadership: F - the man is evasive and flees from accountability Overall GPA - 2 points in 5 classes, 0.4 GPA

http://wizbangblog.com/content/2009/04/30/report-cards.php

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mistygreen 4 years, 11 months ago

Tell that to the people in NYC that was scared out of their wits. If I had experienced what those people experienced, I'd be screaming for someone's head. What this whole situation is a stupid, inconsiderate, not planned out photo op. Now if TPTB had planned appropiately and notified city authorities and the public of what was coming, the public would of been prepared. I didn't experience 9/11,but I tell you what, if I see a plane flying at low altitude, it is darn sure going to get my attention. I don't care how anyone wants to "spin it". Someone dropped the ball big time and needs to take responsibility for it.

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kmat 4 years, 11 months ago

You right wingers are just pathetic. You're like fish out water flopping and grasping for air. I feel sorry for the 20% of you that are left in this country. If you haven't figured it out yet, America likes Obama. High approval ratings, people feel like the country is moving in the right direction and what's left of moderate republicans are bailing out because Obama and the dems are the only sensible party left. You guys are just in your death throes and when something is dying is when it makes the most noise.

Vertigo has it correct. Anyone from the military understands that these planes are going to be flown almost everyday, regardless of what the mission is. It didn't cost the taxpayers anything in addition to what we already pay daily for our military.

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ocean 4 years, 11 months ago

Dick Cheney behind the scenes anyone?

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mistygreen 4 years, 11 months ago

gogoplata - I'm getting a big kick out of your "Top Gun" references.

Suppose the pilot will next be flying a cargo plane full of ?? out of Hong Kong?

Back on topic though...sounds like "we have a failure to communicate" between the White House and the Pentagon...

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years, 11 months ago

Well, I am posting on the JW forum, which is where all us (and that's a very inclusive "us") bottom dwellers reside.

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Flap Doodle 4 years, 11 months ago

bozo, that's a Nick Danger line. You really are scraping the bottom of the barrel.

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Godot 4 years, 11 months ago

Once again, Obama will investigate himself, and find himself to be innocent.

When you are the president, you can delegate authority, but you cannot delegate responsibility.

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Pilgrim2 4 years, 11 months ago

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus (Anonymous) says…

Hey, Pil, just doing my part so you can have an excuse to inflict us all with a little bit more of your righteous indignation, in between your cheerleading for torture and mass murder of babies and women.


Make sure you tell the shrink about your contributions to this thread.

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jaywalker 4 years, 11 months ago

Bozo's posts have been even more ridiculous and brainless than normal. I think he's rampin' it up 'cuz he saw logrithmic had rapidly become the biggest jackass on these boards and he wants his title back.

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BigPrune 4 years, 11 months ago

Obama himself ordered the fly by. He wanted images that showed America is strong. He thought having the Presidential plane with two fighter escorts flying by the statue of liberty would show the world who was boss. Of course this scene is to be projected on TV after he calls for martial law and declares a halt to all elections.

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Bowhunter99 4 years, 11 months ago

bozo is a complete idiot... his response-for-all-things include 'but what was inherited from Bush.. blah;'....

a photo-op approved by Obama.... 400K down the drain.... the buck stops at the top and now that moron is at the top... therefore it's his fault.

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Mixolydian 4 years, 11 months ago

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus (Anonymous) says…

However this was allowed to happen, it's definitely Obama's responsibility to fix the problem. But given all of the disasters Obama inherited from BushCo, ...

Official Entrant in the "Kevin Groenhagen of the left" award.

Yeah, but Bush....!!!!!

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Roland Gunslinger 4 years, 11 months ago

Some perspective- the mission would of been flown despite the photo op. The aircrew that fly the VC-25 (it's only called Air Force One when the President is on board) still has to meet FAA mandated flying hours per month to maintain profiencency. Same with the fighter escort pilots. They would have been flying that day anyways to meet mandatory hours. The photo op was piggybacking on the training mission in order to save money.

I'm sure Obama knew the VC-25 was flying that day and it was most likely briefed to him that it was flying a training mission and a photo op. I doubt, however, that the details of the training mission were briefed as it would seem to be inconsequential. Training missions Air Force wide happen every single day and night. Of course hindsight tells us he probably should of been briefed that it was flying a low level in NYC... someone needs to be called to the carpet. I don't believe Obama should but definately one of his staffers.

Trust me Im no Obama apologist but I don't believe this one is his goof. My 16 years in the Air Force has taught me alot about how the Air Force operates and how things are passed to the higher ups.

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notajayhawk 4 years, 11 months ago

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus (Anonymous) says…

"But given all of the disasters Obama inherited from BushCo, very possibly including this one"

I see boohoozo's new tactic is revising history while it's still news. Actually, boohoozo, Mr. Caldera was a White House staffer during a former administration.

Bill Clinton's.

"Yep— he's pretty much the president's butler—"

Uh huh.

"Caldera will lead the office that oversees all White House military operations, including Air Force One, Camp David and presidential trips overseas."

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2008/12/02/louis_caldera_to_oversee_white.html

Some butler. Oh, and it appears the director of the White House Military Office is responsible for where Air Force One goes, not the Pentagon.

"it almost certainly was Caldera's call, not Obama's"

And I almost certainly agree.

Who hired the guy?

"Will you be equally outraged at the next flyover of a KU football game?"

Sure I would be - if a flyover at a KU football game caused mass panic and building evacuations in a city of 20 million people.

"Anyway, where have I defended Obama?"

In virtually every sentence you've posted to this thread, for a start.

"this minor incident"

I'm sure the friends and relatives of those whose loved ones' bodies were never recovered from the rubble appreciate the way you trivialize the incident, you mindless cretin.

BTW, I always thought bozo's nose was red - why is yours so brown, herr klowne?

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years, 11 months ago

Hey, Pil, just doing my part so you can have an excuse to inflict us all with a little bit more of your righteous indignation, in between your cheerleading for torture and mass murder of babies and women.

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Pilgrim2 4 years, 11 months ago

beatrice (Anonymous) says…

Trying to link this to Obama is incredibly stupid.


Not as stupid as your buddy boohoozo trying to link it to George Bush.

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Pilgrim2 4 years, 11 months ago

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus (Anonymous) says…

But given all of the disasters Obama inherited from BushCo, very possibly including this one...


The winner of The Most Pathetic Post of the Day Award! One hundred days into the Barry Joe administration, an incident that occurred this week, and boohoozo still manages to try to blame it on George W. Bush. That's beyond pathetic. It's...it's...I'm not sure I can find the word to adequately describe the miserable nature of boohoozo's mind set.

Boohoozo, get professional psychiatric counseling as soon as possible.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years, 11 months ago

Or maybe you just shop for clothes the same way Sarah Palin does.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years, 11 months ago

"$330,000? Seriously!? I hadn't heard that nugget yet."

Will you be equally outraged at the next flyover of a KU football game?

"$150,000 to clothe an entire family for months"

Jeez, do you fly to Paris every time you need a new stitch of clothing?

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Flap Doodle 4 years, 11 months ago

Nick, why don't you get on your own stinking pit of a "forum" to spread your nattering? Oh, wait, that "forum" never got more than 3 unique visitors a month before it failed completely.

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Marion Lynn 4 years, 11 months ago

You people do realise that this is an intentional diversion on the part of the Obamination?

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jaywalker 4 years, 11 months ago

$330,000? Seriously!? I hadn't heard that nugget yet. Huh. $150,000 to clothe an entire family for months in order to do 10 photo ops a day and a presidential campaign versus $330,000 for a three hour photo op with a plane.......Kinda makes ya wonder where all the 'outrage' is from those that screamed bloody murder the first time around, don't it?

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Chris Ogle 4 years, 11 months ago

Just think.... if they had been at 35,000 feet like Bush when he "checked" the Katrina disaster, this wouldn't be a topic..... and we would be stuck bitchin about Wally World. . Thanks, Big O

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VTHawk 4 years, 11 months ago

It only cost $330,000, what a deal. /sarc

The real scandal is that they were planning to do this do DC next month!

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jmadison 4 years, 11 months ago

This was most certainly a photo-op for Obama. Caldera is a political appointee who took an order from Obama's image team to perform this stunt. They know the New Yorkers are so pro-Obama that this little shenanigan will have no effect on his popularity.

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hornhunter 4 years, 11 months ago

What is the carbon foot print of one Air force 1 and a fighter?

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jaywalker 4 years, 11 months ago

"Right, the President was in on the planning of a photo-shoot involving one of the TWO planes used as Air Force One, even though the Defense Department has acknowledged they planned it."

Gee, I'm sorry, when I wrote 'the White House' I actually thought that meant the collection of administration and staff. Apparently "White House" is a synonym for President Obama. Neither today nor yesterday have I written this was "Obama's fault". I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that the Chief of Staff was in the loop on this operation, does he work in the Obama, er.....White House?

"I guess to some, if a bunny gets hurt while photographing in the White House Garden, I'm sure the President is responsible for that too"

Brilliant analogy. 'Cept it wasn't a bunny that got hurt, was it? It was thousands of New Yorkers running for their lives because some idiot yelled "Fire!" in a crowded theater.
I'll say again, I don't believe this needs to be that big a deal. But the White House saying they're going to 'probe' the matter is disingenuous. People in that building knew about this operation. Believing that the DOD was solely responsible for this without any approval from the White House is what's stupid. But bozo's right, Caldera will probably be the one going down for this, rightfully so IF the buck stopped with him.

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Multidisciplinary 4 years, 11 months ago

snap, everyone wanted to jump on that bandwagon. Are you talking about one of those in particular or that many people have posted 100 days anti Obama?

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Flap Doodle 4 years, 11 months ago

Google ( Obama 100 days mistakes ) and see what you find.

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Multidisciplinary 4 years, 11 months ago

I can sometimes go 3 days without once seeing my own vehicle. I can't imagine the first thing on Obama's mind when he cracks his eyes in the morning is, "Honey, when you take the dog out, check on the planes, and the chopper, will you?"

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years, 11 months ago

"Actually we do know it wasn't in the works for the last 100 days."

You're reading more into that press release than is actually there. Caldera approved it-- he didn't plan it, and we have no idea who did, or when they started.

Anyway, where have I defended Obama? (for the record, Nader would be closer to my hero.) Merely declining to join in in the hysterical hand-wringing doesn't qualify as "defending."

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Kyle Reed 4 years, 11 months ago

"for all we know, this may have been in the works for months, and not just in the last 100 days"

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Statement-from-Louis-Caldera-Director-White-House-Military-Office-on-Air-Force-One-flight-over-New-York/

Actually we do know it wasn't in the works for the last 100 days. You didn't apparently but you're sure quick to jump up and throw out scenarios that would paint your hero in a better light. Seriously, it is not required for you to defend Obama on every blunder he makes.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years, 11 months ago

"Nice spin!"

You're the one spinning-- for all we know, this may have been in the works for months, and not just in the last 100 days.

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Flap Doodle 4 years, 11 months ago

Impeachment now is the ticket! (may contain hyperbole)

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years, 11 months ago

"This is a small affair indeed, but it's once again proving one thing: The Messiah can do no wrong."

If you were paying even the slightest attention, you'd acknowledge that the "Messiah" is getting just as much criticism from the left as from the right-- except that from the right, its criticism for criticism's sake because he's not on "your team." And you're a prime example of that, Tom.

That said, I'm most certainly glad that he's in there making mistakes, and not McCain.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years, 11 months ago

"A fairly low-level official? "

Yep-- he's pretty much the president's butler--

http://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/eop/whmo/

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gogoplata 4 years, 11 months ago

His ego is writing checks that his body can't cash. He doesn't own that plane the taxpayers do.

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Tom Shewmon 4 years, 11 months ago

This is a small affair indeed, but it's once again proving one thing: The Messiah can do no wrong.

These same Stepford people thought on the other hand, GWB could not do anything right. For example, GWB did more for AIDS and disease in Africa than anyone else. How much did the crooked Obama media ever cover that? That would be hardly at all if any.

If Bush was president and this happened, it would be part of his legacy on the far-left. Keith Olbermann would have one more reason to hate Bush with a passion.

The current 'no checks and balances freight train' barreling through America has to wreck sooner or later. Well, I guess it is for NBC and NYT and many leftist media outlets, since their ratings suck and they're in financial dire straits and folding like cheap lawn chairs by the day.

You go Immelt, Zucker and Sulzberger!!

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Kyle Reed 4 years, 11 months ago

A fairly low-level official? This guy works directly in the executive office of the president! What exactly consitutes "high-level"? Only the president himself?

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75x55 4 years, 11 months ago

"If it was strictly a Pentagon operation, then that's where the problem has to be fixed, and it'll likely fall on Caldera to be involved in the fixing. If Caldera just didn't ask enough questions before OKing this, then he might just lose his job, and his replacement will get to fix the problem."

Nice spin!

Still trying to blame it on the bunch that takes the orders from the WHITE HOUSE office that Caldera runs.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years, 11 months ago

Well, Akreed, it almost certainly was Caldera's call, not Obama's-- at least I hope that Obama isn't taking up any of his time with this level of operational detail.

But what action is taken depends on how this happened. If it was strictly a Pentagon operation, then that's where the problem has to be fixed, and it'll likely fall on Caldera to be involved in the fixing. If Caldera just didn't ask enough questions before OKing this, then he might just lose his job, and his replacement will get to fix the problem.

But as I said before, this is really just poor judgement by fairly low-level officials, and not the scandal the wingnuts would like it to be.

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Kyle Reed 4 years, 11 months ago

"If anyone in the White House is going to take the hit on this, my bet right now is on this guy."

Right, the guy directly appointed by Obama as Director. Sounds like he has great judgement. Good choice.

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madmike 4 years, 11 months ago

This White house reminds me of the Governor's office in Blazing Saddles. Obama of course, is played by Mel brooks, an inept head of state that is clueless about most things going on around him. The White House Chief of Staff is played by Harvey Korman, a shrewd power monger that in reality is the Governor by proxy.

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bearlybrewed 4 years, 11 months ago

I'm elated someone is getting probed.

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madmike 4 years, 11 months ago

As usual Bozo's head is up his fourth point of contact as he blames the Pentagon. There is no way that someone in the White house wasn't involved in planning this. It is one the President's planes for Christ sake Bozo! You just don't use those without White House approval. You should get a job with NBC so you too can get tingles up your leg when the Fuhrer speaks!

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years, 11 months ago

While it looks like it was a Pentagon operation, it was approved by the White House Military Office--

http://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/eop/whmo/

which is led by WHMO Director Louis Caldera. If anyone in the White House is going to take the hit on this, my bet right now is on this guy.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years, 11 months ago

"How do you figure that?"

Pretty simple-- I read the article.

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QuestionMan 4 years, 11 months ago

Hasn't anyone in the White House ever heard of Photoshop?

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75x55 4 years, 11 months ago

"It would appear that this was a Pentagon operation, not a White House operation."

How do you figure that? At the very least, the Secret Service had to have plans that covered this event, where the #2 747 was missing for some time. The pilots can't just run off, and wouldn't consider such a venture without orders. The F-16s didn't just show up, but were also under orders.

Someone planned this, cut the various orders, and that authority could only come from the White House, and someone seriously high enough up to be within reach of the President.

The only review going on here is to see how to smooth over all the fuss and make it disappear, so some favored WH apparatchik doesn't have to be sent packing.

Pentagon operation, indeed. Drunk much kool-aid?

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beatrice 4 years, 11 months ago

"No way the White House was in the dark on this, please stop pretending."

Right, the President was in on the planning of a photo-shoot involving one of the TWO planes used as Air Force One, even though the Defense Department has acknowledged they planned it. I guess to some, if a bunny gets hurt while photographing in the White House Garden, I'm sure the President is responsible for that too. Yep, and they also have guided tours through the White House, so if you trip on the carpet -- Obama's fault.

Trying to link this to Obama is incredibly stupid.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years, 11 months ago

However this was allowed to happen, it's definitely Obama's responsibility to fix the problem. But given all of the disasters Obama inherited from BushCo, very possibly including this one, I'm not as inclined to get as apoplectic over this minor incident as those of you who would be apoplectic if Obama farted.

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Kyle Reed 4 years, 11 months ago

"It would appear that this was a Pentagon operation, not a White House operation."

The president is ultimately responsible for everything that is done/not done at all levels of his administration Bozo. You might want to review the newspapers for the last 8 years for the proof you will inevitably ask for.

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Esq2eB 4 years, 11 months ago

That person's name should ryhme with Farack O'fama.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years, 11 months ago

It would appear that this was a Pentagon operation, not a White House operation. It's not like this is a huge scandal-- just extremely poor judgement by someone who should likely lose their job over it.

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jaywalker 4 years, 11 months ago

An 'inquiry' by the White House? Into what their plane was doing in NYC? This wasn't Junior stealing the keys for a late night joy ride, this IS the President's wheels. No way the White House was in the dark on this, please stop pretending.

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Tom Shewmon 4 years, 11 months ago

Here's what uber-goober, Robert Gibbs had to say about it (or didn't have to say about it).

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/category/robert-gibbs/

I'm guessing he won't last until summer, and that's a stretch. What a complete zero.

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XD40 4 years, 11 months ago

Good job there Barry! Smart.

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gogoplata 4 years, 11 months ago

"Two of your snot nosed jockeys did a flyby on my tower at over four hundred knots! I want somebodies butt! I want it now! I've had it !"

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gogoplata 4 years, 11 months ago

Tower this is Air Force One requesting a flyby.

Negative Air Force One the pattern is full.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years, 11 months ago

"Hey, it's OK! It happened on The Messiah's watch, not GWB's…..fuh-get about it!"

If this had happened under BushCo, the only response from them would have been that we all need to shop more.

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Flap Doodle 4 years, 11 months ago

If this incident helps slide Barry back to his mob-financed masion in Chicago, it was worth every penny.

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madmike 4 years, 11 months ago

I am sure that Obama, oir I should say, his teleprompter, will make a statement about it shortly, blaming someone else like he always does. I don't even think that he can go to the bathroom without having his teleprompter with him.

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Chris Ogle 4 years, 11 months ago

Wonder what that's going to cost us?

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Tom Shewmon 4 years, 11 months ago

Hey, it's OK! It happened on The Messiah's watch, not GWB's.....fuh-get about it!

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madmike 4 years, 11 months ago

By "probe", the White House means cover up! They will find some poor low lever bureaucrat to blame instead of the White house Chief of Staff.

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