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Hackers access Palin’s e-mail account

September 18, 2008

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— A group of computer hackers said Wednesday that they accessed a Yahoo e-mail account of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the Republican vice presidential nominee, publishing some of her private communications to expose what appeared to be her use of a personal account for government business.

The hackers posted what they said were personal photos, the contents of several messages, the subject lines of dozens of e-mails and Palin's e-mail contact list on a site called Wikileaks.org. That site said it received the electronic files from a group identifying itself only as "Anonymous."

"At around midnight last night some members affiliated with the group gained access to governor Palin's email account, 'gov.palin@yahoo.com' and handed over the contents to the government sunshine site Wikileaks.org," said a message on the site.

Rick Davis, the campaign manager for Republican presidential nominee John McCain, issued a statement Wednesday afternoon condemning the incident.

"This is a shocking invasion of the governor's privacy and a violation of law," he said. "The matter has been turned over to the appropriate authorities and we hope that anyone in possession of these e-mails will destroy them. We will have no further comment."

Palin has been criticized in recent days for using a personal e-mail account to conduct state business. An Alaska activist has filed a Freedom of Information Act request seeking disclosure of e-mails from another Yahoo account Palin used, gov.sarah@yahoo.com.

That account appears to have been linked to the one that was hacked.

Andree McLeod, who filed the FOIA request, said Wednesday evening that Palin should have known better than to conduct state business using an unsecured e-mail account.

"If this woman is so careless as to conduct state business on a private e-mail account that has been hacked into, what in the world is she going to do when she has access to information that is vital to our national security interests?" she asked.

Comments

FMT6488 6 years, 3 months ago

Yes, the hackers should be prosecuted. However, they do bring up a very troubling question - Can Palin really perform the duties of the vice-presidents' office? Also - Should something happen to McCain, just what will she do when she becomes the President?

kidicarus 6 years, 3 months ago

"Tom Shewmon (Tom Shewmon) says: This is wonderful. The crooked liberal media is already off the "hacker" part and well on there way to "why in the hell is she emailing official biz on a personal email account" part. Makes me sick to my stomach."No, Tom. Last I checked they are still very much "on" the "hacker" part. In addition to the "hacker" part, they are raising another valid concern. Why would any government official be using a yahoo email address to conduct official business? It's not a bad question to ask. It may be nothing, but it's the media's job to ask these types of questions. Believe it or not, they can pursue both issues at once.

feeble 6 years, 3 months ago

It has been reported that Palin's password for her gov.palin@yahoo address was her Wasilla zip code. "What is your zipcode" has been reported to be one of the security questions on that account. Using such readily available info as a password is beyond stupid. She was using the account to conduct government business, hiding that business from the taxpayer. This is a crime. The evidence, while illegally obtained, was not obtained by law enforcement personnel, and could still be used as evidence in criminal proceedings. Major polling sites (gallup, rasmussen, etc) are reporting an 11 point drop in Palin's approval ratings, from 9/13 to today. Her approval ratings are now lower than Obama, McCain and Biden. Even Rove can see the writing on the wall. Palin will continue to energize the religious right, but she has lost the middle, most especially white women voters. Game over.

BigPrune 6 years, 3 months ago

This sounds quite typical from the Obama camp. His internet hit squad has hit yet again. I read the emails, there wasn't anything about government business in those emails. Whatever happened to "change?" Dirty Chicago politics.

Ralph Reed 6 years, 3 months ago

There are two things here.1. Palin used a private email account for state business. That is hiding the workings of state government from the public. She was wrong there. That in itself needs to be investigated, and who's to say she wouldn't do the same if elected?2. David Kernell broke the law by hacking into her account on Yahoo. The article jmadison referenced at 1645 says, "The FBI and the Secret Service started a formal investigation on Wednesday into the hacking." Kernell should be charged if in fact he did hack the account.Now, which is worse, and why?***I'm me. Who are you behind your hood of anonymity?

BuffyloGal 6 years, 3 months ago

At least we don't have to worry about anyone hacking into McCain's email account do we? Phone records maybe, but no email.

kidicarus 6 years, 3 months ago

"RobertMarble (Anonymous) says: wow, the supporters of hussein obama will do anything- first exploiting the race card, riots & assaults at the rnc, and now this? you people really need to grow up. is this the 'change' they're all droning about- changing campaign tactics to criminal activity?"Honestly, Robert - you are telling others to grow up? If you are going to use "Hussein", at least put Barack's first name in front of it. Your intent is obvious. Glass houses, Robert.

RobertMarble 6 years, 3 months ago

you libs sure seem fixated on the middle name issue. get over it. I understand that your side is doing poorly & surely that has your stress factors pretty high but seriously- can't you find something of more substance to argue about?

KansasPerson 6 years, 3 months ago

Why all these assumptions (RobertMarble, BowHunter) that the Obama campaign was behind this hacking job?Do you have any evidence of that? I haven't seen any yet. Maybe I'm not looking at the right websites.

Flap Doodle 6 years, 3 months ago

Maybe Obama's supporters can get William Ayers to firebomb Palin's house for old times' sake.

OzChicklet 6 years, 3 months ago

Right on KansasPerson. Why are all the righties immediately finger pointing at the Obama campaign? Perhaps a group of disgruntled right wingers hacked into Palin's email account in protest to McCain's VP choice. Not all righties are pleased with the Palin choice. There is talk out there of Republican suicide voters that claim they will vote for Obama because of the VP choice....

Confrontation 6 years, 3 months ago

"The honorable left wing doing what it takes to discredit themselves. breaking the law to illustrate what may be a minor loophole? The mentality of the left. Un-believeable"Kind of like the dishonorable right wing sending absentee ballots to registered Democrats, and then having them mail the ballots to the wrong address? If you're so sure McSame can win this thing, then why are you trying so hard to keep Democrats from voting? Getting scared, huh?

RobertMarble 6 years, 3 months ago

kidic, work on your reading comprehension; it's obviously substandard. addressing a person by their actual name is legitimate. hussein happens to be the guy's actual name, no matter how much difficulty you have understanding that. that in now way constitutes 'name calling'. and the point is that it is YOUR liberal brethren who are doing the vast majority of the actual 'name calling' (mcsame, etc, etc). so in your rush to seek the moral high ground and whine at others you have sort of painted yourself into a corner, kid. if the 'name calling' tactics bother you, perhaps you should avoid engaging in political debates because they are full of that. besides, since it's mainly coming from the side you support- i suggest your time would be better spent correcting them. time to grow up kid; at least put some thought into your rants.

motomom 6 years, 3 months ago

THERE ARE ALOT OF RED FLAGS GOING UP ABOUT SENATOR MCCAIN'S CHOICE. HONESTLY, SHE HAS TROUBLE WRITTEN ALL OVER HER. yikes..she is soooo scary.

BrianR 6 years, 3 months ago

I'm sure Obama's camp had nothing to do with the hack. Hackers hack for the same reason some mountain climbers climb, because it's there. I hope they catch the perpetrators though, no matter who this happens to, it's a highly inappropriate intrusion.

sourpuss 6 years, 3 months ago

To answer your question, FMT6488, she'll open a yahoo account called ">"prez.sarah@yahoo.com"

dandelion 6 years, 3 months ago

i was curious about the quotes I've seen from many posters about billing rape victims for the rape kits. What kind of town is this? How many rapes are going on in this town of, what? 6,000 people? And aren't rape victims tax payers who expect law enforcement? Maybe their attitude is why there are so many rapes in this town."Fannon told the Frontiersman that the tests would cost the department up to $14,000 per year. He said he would rather force rapists to pay for the tests, not taxpayers. Fannon, who is no longer police chief, could not be reached for comment Wednesday; his home phone number has been disconnected.It is not known how many rape victims in Wasilla were required to pay for some or all of the medical exams, but a legislative staffer who worked on the bill for Croft said it happened. "It was more than a couple of cases, and it was standard practice in Wasilla," Peggy Wilcox said, who now works for the Alaska Public Employees Association. "If you were raped in Wasilla, this was going to happen to you.""http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-09-10-rape-exams_N.htm

jmadison 6 years, 3 months ago

They told me if Bush was re-elected, personal privacy would be invaded.

Godot 6 years, 3 months ago

In Watergate they broke into file cabinets - today they break into email accounts. No difference. Track them down and try them.

RobertMarble 6 years, 3 months ago

wow, the supporters of hussein obama will do anything- first exploiting the race card, riots & assaults at the rnc, and now this? you people really need to grow up. is this the 'change' they're all droning about- changing campaign tactics to criminal activity?

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 3 months ago

So what's the greater crime, using a private email account to conceal the private conduct of public business, or hacking into that private account? Electing a pig (with lipstick) in a poke, or revealing to voters as much as possible about a candidate's real actions when put into a position of power?

johnadavies 6 years, 3 months ago

Most private email "really" isn't private and a lot of the hacking comes from inside organizations; To pretend otherwise is foolish. As far as being a "sacred pig" is concerned I don't even think she'd be very good at that job! I don't know what shows the worse judgment on the part of McCain: choosing her to begin with or not dropping her like a hot potato now! I might have voted for him before he picked her but I think he has proven himself to be lacking in insight and judgement!

temperance 6 years, 3 months ago

Maybe the hacker, once convicted, can donate millions of dollars to Hoyner and Rockefeller so that they will pass a law to retroactively immunize the hacker from breaking Federal privacy laws.It's worked before . . . .

TopJayhawk 6 years, 3 months ago

Okay, this happened several days ago. Where is the smoking gun, the evidence that she used her email for business? It's been long enough, if it was there it would be out there. Once again the Hypoctrits of the Democratic party have taken another big swing at the Governor, and once again have another big whiff. Haven't they struck out yet?They are desparate to get their socialist, racist candidate elected.

kidicarus 6 years, 3 months ago

Do you honestly not get it Robert? I don't care if you use "Hussein", but at least have the courtesy to say "Barack Hussein Obama". He has never gone by his middle name. Grow up, dude.

antney 6 years, 3 months ago

Robert is right. If Obama authorized hacking in Palin's yahoo email what else might he do....warrantless evesdrop on any Americans he considers 'terrorists'...detain and torture any who migh opose him...us the US attorney's offices to enforce his agenda...hire ideological chronies to run the country and ouste the really qualified people who don't attend church...let the economy tank, then bail out all his friends on Wallstreetthis sounds evil

OzChicklet 6 years, 3 months ago

People don't call me by my middle name. They call me by my first name because that is the name I go by. Mr. Marble, why can't you get off the name thing and on to a topic of value?

Byrne 6 years, 3 months ago

Everyone commenting about how this was authorized by Obama or the left wing or liberals ... you show a fundamental lack of understanding of Anonymous./b/ has no politics. This wasn't done for anything but laughs.

BuffyloGal 6 years, 3 months ago

I'm not worried. My son's Obama just laid flat McCain flat on the mat in a total KO. Of course, it was on our Wii...

OzChicklet 6 years, 3 months ago

ese (Anonymous) says: Liberals defend privacy, except when it comes to people they hate._______Good heavens ese, get a grip! Liberals are not hate-mongers as you seem to believe. Why not take a walk on the liberal side? There's wine, and cheese, and some nice Pink Floyd to listen to in order to soothe extreme close-mindedness and tunnel vision....

Mike Blur 6 years, 3 months ago

According to a tech blog I read, Sarah's password to her email account was "popcorn." Crissakes, a 30K word-count kiddie script could hack that account in a second! All one would need is the email addy. Pub or dem, let this be a lesson to you all to select a "strong" password, and better yet, if you're conducting official business by email, stay in established channels. That way, you ain't got nothin' to hide.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 3 months ago

I don't recall that, but I was pretty young at the time, barry. Regardless, if it was at all comparable to the attempt to tie his middle name "Hussein" with the stupid racism involved in trying to label all Muslims as part of the nonsense concept of "Islamofascism," then it was just as childish.

OzChicklet 6 years, 3 months ago

Perhaps the HACKERS were unable to "hack" into the other candidates unsecure email accounts because the other candidates followed the rules for security within the govt. I think we need to stop this mentality of "everyone's picking on Sarah because...." and pay more attention to how we are going to get out of this horrible mess with Iraq, the economy, healthcare, education, ETC...

gr 6 years, 3 months ago

"Palin has been criticized in recent days for using a personal e-mail account to conduct state business."As opposed to using a state e-mail account to conduct personal business?Having an account called gov.palin doesn't appear to be misleading anyone.As far as "secured" goes, it depends upon what the content is. But, isn't there something about the government being transparent and not hiding things? What kind of "business" did they think she was conducting which the public shouldn't know about?

Confrontation 6 years, 3 months ago

What about the dirty politics of voter fraud, BigPrune? The right is sending thousands of absentee ballots that end up being mailed to the wrong addresses. Therefore, the votes won't count. Why are they sending these to registered Democrats? Scared that McSame can't win without frauding Americans?

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 3 months ago

"What kind of "business" did they think she was conducting which the public shouldn't know about?"That's what they want to know, and what voters should know before November.

OzChicklet 6 years, 3 months ago

antney (Anonymous) says: Robert is right. If Obama authorized hacking in Palin's yahoo email what else might he do.:warrantless evesdrop on any Americans he considers 'terrorists':detain and torture any who migh opose him:us the US attorney's offices to enforce his agenda:hire ideological chronies to run the country and ouste the really qualified people who don't attend church:let the economy tank, then bail out all his friends on Wallstreetthis sounds evil_______Sounds like paranoia creeping in....

Flap Doodle 6 years, 3 months ago

Crush the unbelievers!"Where is Al Gore when you need him? Three years ago, the former vice president blasted "digital brownshirts" who "harass and hector any journalist who is critical of the president." He meant the mortal threat to the Republic of bloggers and angry Republican e-mailers. But times change, and the digital legions are greater nowadays on Mr. Gore's side. Thus we don't hear much fretting at all about the Obama Action Wire, which, unlike the brownshirts of yore, is actually managed by Barack Obama's campaign to muzzle critical media. Here's how it works. A message goes out over Barack Obama's Web site with the names, phone numbers and e-mails of editors and producers foolish enough to host Obama critics. With Mr. Obama's extensive digital following, and his extensive fund-raising and contact lists, shutting up the Democratic nominee's critics with a fraction of Mr. Obama's millions of supporters is relatively simple. The digital legions plug phone lines, crash servers and intimidate the advertisers of these media outlets. This must be another instance of the "new" politics that Mr. Obama frequently talks about. The latest incident, reported in the Chicago Tribune, "orchestrated a massive stream of complaints on the phone lines of Tribune Co.-owned WGN-AM in Chicago. "The offense: The station hosted National Review's David Freddoso, author of 'The Case Against Barack Obama: The Unlikely Rise and Unexamined Agenda of the Media's Favorite Candidate,' a fair and rigorous but adversarial examination of Mr. Obama's record. Surely, we can't have any of that. "http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/18/the-new-digital-brownshirts/

Haiku_Cuckoo 6 years, 3 months ago

"Robert is right. If Obama authorized hacking in Palin's yahoo email what else might he do.:warrantless evesdrop on any Americans he considers 'terrorists'"Well, considering the fact that Obama voted in support of the recent wiretapping bill, I think that goes without saying.

jmadison 6 years, 3 months ago

One report indicates the son of a Democratic state senator from TN may have been the hacker. http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/09/palin-e-mail-ha.html

dandelion 6 years, 3 months ago

If she was doing state business on a private email account, it was not private. The public have a right to it. I think the point made was that it's really easy for hackers to hack into private accounts, and if she continues this sneaky practice as VP, she could be a security risk. She is a sneaky woman who is not to be trusted. What is she trying to hide? Why isn't she out in the open? Why won't she be interviewed? Why is Sydney McCain avoiding real, not contrived interviews. He has turned into another Bush. He wasn't that bad before, but he's done a sharp right turn to get that radical vote. I guess someone who dumps a wife who stood by him while he was a POW and helped him recover for a rich woman is willing to dump his ideals to get elected.

XEPCT 6 years, 3 months ago

Hackers for Obama, it would appear.

BuffyloGal 6 years, 3 months ago

Nah, this is all part of McCain's plan to weaken her and have her eventually withdraw so he can plop Leiberman in place instead and run two old white guys after all.

RobertMarble 6 years, 3 months ago

this has got to make you wonder- what else will the hussein obama campaign stoop to?

RobertMarble 6 years, 3 months ago

laughable...i'm sure the official hussein campaign has enough 'plausible deniability' to separate them from the hacking. but to refute the idea that it was done by his supporters is undeniable. face it, hussein's group is in a panic and stooping to whatever criminal activity it takes to keep in the race...kidic...I'll address hussein in any way I choose, thank you very much. I use his actaul name, which is far better than you libs do with all the variations and slurs typically used against other candidates. if you find his name so offensive perhaps you should convince him to change it.

TopJayhawk 6 years, 3 months ago

What a crock. These people need to be prosecuted. Nothing justifies this.

Ragingbear 6 years, 3 months ago

Anonymous is not your friend. Prosecution of those caught are an acceptable risk. That is a statement from their videos. To them, they still won. I would be inclined to agree. Although what this has to do with Scientology is beyond me.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 3 months ago

"if you find his name so offensive perhaps you should convince him to change it."It's you're basic school-yard tactic of repeating a phrase or name ad nauseam in an attempt to make it appear "offensive" that most of us find childish, if not offensive.

RobertMarble 6 years, 3 months ago

kidic...honestly, you obviously don't get it. if use of 'hussein'- which actually IS his name causes you to have a tantrum, why do you not speak out about the many people posting on this site who use insulting variations of mccain's or palin's name? it is quite common, and those slurs go beyond just using a real name. yet you display not outrage for that- only when it's directed at hussein (again, is real name). your anger rings completely hollow because you are accepting of the same tactic - the only difference is the target. you can't have it both ways. either speak out against your fellow hussein supporters who do it daily or stop crying when the opposition uses it.

OzChicklet 6 years, 3 months ago

barrypenders (Anonymous) says: There is no way that the Liberals would attack if Obama's privacy had been violated. I say this because they are not concerned that Palin's privacy was violated.Liberals are way to big of people to be concerned with trivial issues like privacy or wire tapping. They're more into dope and a little "pink floyd"._________Liberals are extremely concerned with what you call "trivial issues". That is why this EVENT is being publicized and there is so much controversy. Take a chill pill, barry. The paranoia police will be there to help you soon.Has anyone considered that:1) Palin did not use a private email account to avoid anything. She and others use it because it is convenient. Perhaps she is working from home? A Blackberry? How is the govt email security set up? Does it allow for VPN connectivity?2) Using unsecured email accounts occurs constantly within a variety of corporations for a variety of reasons.I find it alarming all this blather and mud-slinging over something so trivial. Biden has a 5 point bipartisan supported plan for dealing with Iraq. What is Palin's plan? What's Palin's plan about anything? Where does she stand on the issues? McCain's website is clear on where he stands on the issues, and so is Obama's and Biden's. Why don't you folks go spend some quality time reading about what these candidates really stand for and make some intelligent decisions.

Deja Coffin 6 years, 3 months ago

I bet they found some really good Elk stew recipes.

BigPrune 6 years, 3 months ago

I didn't read anything concerning "official business" in her yahoo account. Just more lies from the leftists - something to be expected. I still believe there is a connection with Obama's internet hit squad, just as I believe they started the vicious rumors about Palin really being the grandmother of her down syndrome baby b.s. If he denies it, then it's okay. It's called plausible deniability.

kidicarus 6 years, 3 months ago

Robert - What does reading comprehension have to do with anything? I know exactly what you are doing, as do you. You are about as juvenile as they come. And I don't think I've "ranted" or thrown a "tantrum" at any point. Just wondering why you refuse to address Barack Obama by the name he chooses to go by.

OzChicklet 6 years, 3 months ago

Look at all the hull-a-ba-loo RobertMarble has created. I bet he's gloating with each outraged response to his blather. Let's be smart and ignore him completely.

kidicarus 6 years, 3 months ago

"RobertMarble (Anonymous) says: kidic:honestly, you obviously don't get it. if use of 'hussein'- which actually IS his name causes you to have a tantrum, why do you not speak out about the many people posting on this site who use insulting variations of mccain's or palin's name? it is quite common, and those slurs go beyond just using a real name. yet you display not outrage for that- only when it's directed at hussein (again, is real name). your anger rings completely hollow because you are accepting of the same tactic - the only difference is the target. you can't have it both ways. either speak out against your fellow hussein supporters who do it daily or stop crying when the opposition uses it."Actually Robert, I do get it. "They do it too" is a pretty childish reason for an adult to engage in childish behavior. I would argue that while Barack Obama's middle name is Hussein, it's not his name by the casual meaning of the term. He goes by Barack Obama. And I think all name calling is stupid. Do you regularly use other peoples' stupid actions to justify your own. Why don't you try taking the high road instead? Your inflammatory words add nothing of value to the conversation. You have every right to call Barack Obama whatever you want. I would note that it takes a big person to name call on an anonymous message board.

tangential_reasoners_anonymous 6 years, 3 months ago

"That site said it received the electronic files from a group identifying itself only as "Anonymous."Hmm... could have been either of those two, above me....D'oh!

budwhysir 6 years, 3 months ago

Well, as I sit here drinking one of my many adult beverages, I am amazed to find yet another political add that I do not care to listen too. Was it not just last week we had to listen to how people are not sure of her reiligion, I wont mention that there is a seperation between religion and government. Anyhow, I believe that email is a quote un quote public information that is not promised to be kept confidential.

KansasPerson 6 years, 3 months ago

notnowdear says:"By the way, watch the ABC interview with Palin, and note how she winces in the left eye, left side of face, when she uses the word "democracy". Then go out and research the topic of micro-expressions. Her little facial tic on such a word tells me everything I need to know about her."I saw that. I thought she was trying to wink at me.

RiverCityConservative 6 years, 3 months ago

"... to refute the idea that it was done by his supporters is undeniable. " -I am having some difficulty fathoming the intended meaning of this statement and I believe that such sloppy composition makes it much more difficult to have a serious exchange of views on the topic of the hacked Palin yahoo account.

RobertMarble 6 years, 3 months ago

hussein is his name; if it is shameful or offensive to you libs then tough luck. perhaps in your dreams of a marxist wonderland you have the ability to censor or silence any dissent to your views, but fortunately that is not reality. i will refer to hussein obama as I choose. logic: why, you ask? put it this way: you libs continually use slurs and derogatory names for those who oppose you, yet whine and snivel at me for using hussein's actual name? perhaps that is the point- it causes those of you behaving in that manner to demonstrate your hypocrisy. I see none of you demonstrating the same mock outrage to your liberal brethren. why should your arbitrary 'rules' only benefit your side? beo: once again with the race card eh? you play that quite regularly but have yet to provide any evidence at all to support it- although I have called you out on it numerous times. using a person's middle name certainly does not qualify. I've seen lately that when the libs make an outlandish or especially vile accusation they are usually the ones who are truely guilty of it. calling me the racist here is a prime example. I challenge your once again to post any evidence of this. by exploiting hussein's race as a platform to launch baseless accusations means you are in fact the racist here, beo. same with 'kid'; making continued accusations without basis is quite juvenile itself. grow up, kid.

beatrice 6 years, 3 months ago

If using a middle name is so bloody important to you Robert Marble, then why don't you log on using your middle name? You have previously admitted that you only use Senator Obama's middle name to upset liberals, which proves that you know your actions are taken as offensive. You obviously don't mind using offensive words to describe Barack Obama, which makes me wonder, what other word do you use when in private to describe the good Senator? Don't bother telling us. I'm sure we all know which word you use in private.

RobertMarble 6 years, 2 months ago

hahaha I knew bea wouldn't be able to stay quiet for long without hurling some racist accusations. bea, you seem to want racists around so bad you're willing to invent them. just keep your menstrual hallucinations in check until after the election- then I'm sure you'll be calling the whole country racist when hussein loses.

Calliope877 6 years, 2 months ago

If you didn't get that joke, I apologize.

Calliope877 6 years, 2 months ago

beatrice (Anonymous) says: Don't bother telling us. I'm sure we all know which word you use in private.Naggers?

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