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Lewinsky question was meant to show Clinton’s strength

March 27, 2008

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Chelsea Clinton, 28, speaks with Butler University students in Atherton Student Union in support of her mother, Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y. A student who asked Tuesday how the Monica Lewinsky affair had affected Hillary Clinton was shot down by Chelsea: "I do not think that is any of your business."

Chelsea Clinton, 28, speaks with Butler University students in Atherton Student Union in support of her mother, Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y. A student who asked Tuesday how the Monica Lewinsky affair had affected Hillary Clinton was shot down by Chelsea: "I do not think that is any of your business."

— The college student who got a stinging brushback from Chelsea Clinton when he asked about the Monica Lewinsky scandal said Wednesday he's a Clinton supporter who was trying to get her to show "what makes Hillary so strong."

Evan Strange, a Butler University student who works on the school's newspaper, The Butler Collegian, said he had asked Chelsea Clinton her opinion "on the criticism of her mother that how she handled the Lewinsky scandal might be a sign of weakness and she might not be a strong enough candidate to be president."

It wasn't clear what aspect of the former first lady's actions he was referring to. Before she was fully aware of President Bill Clinton's relationship with Lewinsky, Hillary Rodham Clinton said allegations about her husband and the White House intern were manufactured by a "vast right-wing conspiracy."

Strange's question at Chelsea Clinton's appearance Tuesday at the school brought a stinging rebuke from Clinton's daughter. "Wow, you're the first person actually that's ever asked me that question in the, I don't know, maybe 70 college campuses I've now been to, and I do not think that is any of your business," Chelsea Clinton said during the campaign visit for her mother.

"I'm a supporter of Hillary. I love Hillary," Strange said Wednesday on CBS' "The Early Show." He said he asked the question because his friends "always bring up that scandal. It's not something I asked to cause trouble but to show those people what makes Hillary so strong."

He said that by brushing him off, Chelsea Clinton missed an opportunity to show her mother's strength.

"I was very surprised" at the rebuke, Strange said. "I can see where she'd get a little defensive because of the question and hearing Lewinsky over and over again, but I would like to hear her say something about Hillary rather than dismissing the question."

Comments

deskboy04 7 years, 3 months ago

It is absolutely "our" business. This mess happened while the Clintons were living in the White House. Hillary did say the all of the accusations regarding Monica were part of a conspiracy by the right wing.

If you live in the White House, what you do in the Oval Office is "our" business.

formerfarmer 7 years, 3 months ago

The Butler Collegian, said he had asked Chelsea Clinton her opinion "on the criticism of her mother that how she handled the Lewinsky scandal might be a sign of weakness and she might not be a strong enough candidate to be president."

I think Chelsea missed an opportunity to address "the CRITICISM of her mother's handling of the scandal." The question had nothing to do with the affair itself, if it had, she would have been right in saying none of your business.

coolmom 7 years, 3 months ago

chelsea was completly right in her response. ask mom or ask dad not the child.

lmm 7 years, 3 months ago

Bill should have answered this question in the SAME way. Is it really OUR business about our politicians sex lives....enough.

daddax98 7 years, 3 months ago

I think the question was completely appropriate. Hillary has her daughter out on the campaign trail touting her virtues just like any other pundit and I don't think that, just because she is the child of the candidate, she should be treated any differently. If she doesn't want to answer tough or uncomfortable questions she should stay out of the political arena.

"Like it or not, Bill Clinton is not running for president-Hillary Clinton is. She has never been, and may never be, the formal occupant of the Oval Office"

I would agree with you if Hillary wasn't trying to count her time in the white house as political experience. can't have it both ways

jumpin_catfish 7 years, 3 months ago

Can't play in the big league if you don't swing at the fast balls.

pisafromthewest 7 years, 3 months ago

smitty (Anonymous) says:

"A child of the erring parent need not ever respond to explain or defend either parent. Just not right to ask the child."

Even when that child is put on a stage by that parent as a spokesperson?


lmm (Anonymous) says:

"Bill should have answered this question in the SAME way. Is it really OUR business about our politicians sex lives:.enough."

There are reasons why college professors aren't supposed to dally with students, managers aren't supposed to fool around with employees, etc. It's because of the potential for abuse of a relationship involving power. Do you really think that shouldn't be applied to a president and a White House intern?


Just curious ... would it have been okay for the reporter to ask Chelsea about her own recollections of her (and her mother's) harrowing experience in Bosnia?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2008/03/20/PH2008032002697.jpg

""I remember landing under sniper fire. There was supposed to be some kind of greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base." - Hillary

beatrice 7 years, 3 months ago

I wonder if anyone will ask John McCain's children what they think about their father's adulterous affairs, or about Cindy McCain's drug addiction and her stealing drugs from her own non-profit relief medical business? Would it really matter what the response would be?

The only question that really matters in this coming election is this: Do you want to continue to have a large U.S. presence in Iraq as the Iraqi people fight a civil war among themselves? Does our presence in Iraq make us safer?

John McCain supports George Bush's current assesment of the war and wants us to stay, for the next 100 years if necessary. Hillary Clinton and Barrack Obama want us out, with Obama urging a quicker withdrawl than Clinton.

That is it in a nut shell. Do you want to continue the policies of George W. Bush? If so, then vote for McCain. If not, vote for Obama or Clinton.

Now, back to the petty asides.

pisafromthewest 7 years, 3 months ago

Agnostick (Anonymous) says:

"Uuuhhhhmmmmmm: yeah: seeings how Chelsea was actually there!!!!"

No duh, agnoschtik? Maybe that's why I said "her own" recollections?

And uh ... you are aware that she was also there in the White House during the Lewinsky days, and was "there" to witness both the criticism of her mother and her mother's reaction to it?

Funny but I don't see where the guy asked Chelsea how her father's face looked while Monica's dress was getting stained, or any other question that she couldn't answer from her own knowledge and perspective.

TheYetiSpeaks 7 years, 3 months ago

"you are aware that she was also there in the White House during the Lewinsky days,"

Actually, I'm pretty sure she was at Stanford by that time.

daddax98 7 years, 3 months ago

Condi Rice: Secretary of State Tony Snow: press secretary Dick Cheney: Vice President Hillary Clinton: FIrst Lady

One of these kids is doing her own thing. and only one of them was not hired or elected to their position only one of them held no title in the adminstration And by your logic Chelsea could use her time in the white house as political experience as could the head chef and the guy who cuts the grass and .... you get the point

pisafromthewest 7 years, 3 months ago

beatrice (Anonymous) says:

"I wonder if anyone will ask John McCain's children what they think about their father's adulterous affairs, or about Cindy McCain's drug addiction and her stealing drugs from her own non-profit relief medical business?"

Wow, 'cause that's almost exactly what happened in this case, beatripe.

Would it be appropriate, if McCain's daughter was put on a stage to campaign for him, to ask about how he reacted to press criticism of those affairs? Why not? Should she be asked about her mother's past history of addiction? Gee, is Cindy running for office? I guess it would be okay to ask Chelsea about watching daddy sit around and puff but "not inhale." I mean, are we going to elect a woman to the White House when her spouse admits to having used drugs?

Funny how you repeatedly harp on Ms. McCain's history, bea. Touchy subject for you or something? Yep, Cindy should have been more like Barak's wifey, who got out of Princeton and went straight to work in one of America's oldest (and most well known for corruption) political machines, instead of frivolously wasting time working in Mother Teresa's orphanage. You're a real peach, bea.

daddax98 7 years, 3 months ago

"If you are pimping out your child to lie on your behalf, then YES.. your child is now a 'member of your group' and should answer questions when asked.

Oh: I'm truly enjoying watching the Clinton machine implode and take the wind off the democratic party"

but I guess it is alright for McCain to drag his 92 year old mother out on the trail with him?

blahblahblah 7 years, 3 months ago

Pisa says:

"I mean, are we going to elect a woman to the White House when her spouse admits to having used drugs?"

Of course not. We would much rather have a leader who actually used the drugs, like Chimpy McCokespoon.

akt2 7 years, 3 months ago

I think it was rude. She deserves more respect. Why would she need to comment her father's sex life. Past, present, or future. He may have been President of the United States, but that was secondary to being her father.

sdinges 7 years, 3 months ago

The question was tacky and classless. It doesn't matter if she decided to campaign for her mother, it is very rude to ask a child to comment on her father's affair or her mothers reaction to it.

You might think Bill Clinton's affair is your business, but it certainly is not your business what Chelsea Clinton's opinion regarding it is.

The reporter had every right to ask the question... and Chelsea Clinton had every right to tell him it was innapropriate.

beatrice 7 years, 3 months ago

pisa, you are correct. Michelle Obama didn't work for Mother Teresa, although following her graduation from Princeton she did work for Sidley Austin, one of the most respected law firms in the country. Cindy McCain didn't work for Mother Teresa either. If she had, I wonder if she would have stolen drugs from her, too?

And yes, living in Arizona I see how Cindy McCain's deplorable behavior has been given a white-wash by the media. Besides this being just one more example of how un-liberal the media truly is, it is sickening to think of someone so rich actually stealing medicine from those who are so poor. Talk about character! Combined with John McCain's philandering, people should be aware of the dynamics of this potential first family.

Of course, none of this really matters. We should be talking about the war, and the fact that McCain has the same views as the current administration. McCain is more of the McSame.

And thanks for calling me a peach. I think your kinda fruity too.

pisafromthewest 7 years, 3 months ago

TheYetiSpeaks (Anonymous) says:

"Actually, I'm pretty sure she was at Stanford by that time."

Actually, since the affair happened in the months just before and after her sixteenth birthday, I don't think she was at Stanford yet.


beatrice (Anonymous) says:

"Cindy McCain didn't work for Mother Teresa either."

I didn't say she worked for her bea, but that she was there, on one of the more than 50 missions she led for the foundation that she started, following the cyclones in '91. But hey, I'm sure Ms. Obama's law firm work was just as noble.

"If she had, I wonder if she would have stolen drugs from her, too? "

Guess that's what you meant when you said "Now, back to the petty asides."

"Besides this being just one more example of how un-liberal the media truly is, it is sickening to think of someone so rich actually stealing medicine from those who are so poor."

Um, okay. After all the press is just tearing Ms. Clinton apart.

Funny how the award winning LJW didn't pick up the story about her "mistaken" recollection of running to her car under sniper fire in Bosnia. Maybe the teletype was down that day. Or the story a while back about how she wants to eliminate the student loan program, a story one might think a fair number of Lawrence area residents might have been interested in. But yeah, the press is really biased towards the Republicans, bea.

And that's really balanced of you, bea, to say "someone so rich actually stealing medicine from those who are so poor." Those poor people you refer to wouldn't have been getting any medicine at all had it not been for that foundation which she herself started. And it must be so wonderful to be so knowledgeable about the field of addictions and pain management that you understand so well what it's like for someone who suffered two ruptured disks to try to find any way she could to stop the constant pain, especially as this was pretty far back (16 years ago, not exactly yesterday) when the medical field almost universally resisted prescribing narcotics for chronic pain, a belief system that has since been found somewhat lacking in addressing the needs of the patient.

beatrice 7 years, 3 months ago

gosh pisa, that is some compelling story you wrote of the compassion conservatives have for junkies. A real tear jerker, I tell ya. Poor, poor Cindy. Given how much Rush Limbaugh has in common with Cindy, I'm just shocked that he doesn't like her hubby more. Those poor, poor tortured souls. (sniff...sniff, sob)

As far as the LJW missing a story about Clinton, I'm not that surprised. It isn't a huge paper. However, it isn't like the rest of the country missed it. Thus all of those news agencies aren't liberal, but the LJW is. So, after all this time of conservatives whining about the "liberal media," we finally found the culprit, and it is the LJW. The LJW is the threat to the American way. Better shut it down and finally put an end to the "liberal media" once and for all.

I guess the news agencies that have been running the Obama preacher story, however, are the examples of the conservative media. Which news agencies missed that one? My guess is -- none. How many hours have been spent airing the rants by someone who isn't that candidate on FoxNews as a means of sliming the candidate? What about all the other "news" sources? How exactly does that fit your dillusion of a liberal media?

Sure. Keep telling yourself there is a liberal media bias in this country. While you are at it, might as well believe that money grows on trees and the tooth fairy is real, too.

McCain wants to continue the war in Iraq. He has the same views as George Bush when it comes to the war. That is the real story. A vote for McCain is like voting for a third term for Bush. That is the only story that matters.

fletch 7 years, 3 months ago

Does the Clinton campaign honestly think that this won't come up (heheh, come up) doing the full campaign if they manage to get out of the primary?

ndmoderate 7 years, 3 months ago

A Clinton nomination would only foster debates about the past in the run-up to the general election. America does not need another Clinton White House. America also does not need McCain, since he would pretty much become Bush's 3rd term.

Hillary = 10 Years Ago!

McCain = Four More Years!

beatrice 7 years, 3 months ago

ndmoderate, you say "10 years ago" like that is a bad thing. Instead of a recession, a rapidly shrinking dollar on the world market, record gas prices, a runaway deficit and the war that has no end as we have today, I would certainly welcome the return of a booming economy and a balanced budget as we had 10 years ago. Wouldn't you? Heck, I would even be willing to throw in a sex scandal into the mix, and the country would still be better off if we could return to where we were just 10 years ago, before everything got all Bushed up.

Things were so much better then, in fact, that you might have stumbled onto an effective Hillary slogan: "10 Years Ago! 10 Years Ago! 10 Years Ago!"

ndmoderate 7 years, 3 months ago

Well put, Bea. America 10 years ago was certainly better than King George's years on the throne (by the way, I liked your "Bushed up" comment!).

That being said, I believe the current situation of politics in America would be better served with some new blood in the Oval Office...no more Clintons, no more Bushes (or Bush substitutes). America is fractured politically these days, and Clinton would do no more than a Bush 3rd term in minimizing poo-slinging from the hateful fringes at both ends of the political spectrum.

beatrice 7 years, 3 months ago

ndm, I think we would also do well by spilling some current blood in the Oval Office.

Okay, sorry about that. You are trying to be serious, and I can't help but toss in a joke. To be serious, I don't really know if "new blood" really is the answer, since we will still have the two party system. (Plus, as we see with Obama, "new blood" is equated with "not enough experience," as if years of being part of the system is needed to be an effective leader.) The hateful fringes have infilitrated too far into the centers of both parties that I really don't know if it can stop. As we saw with Bush winning by using Karl Rove's playbook, dirty, hateful politics works. Only when it continuously fails to get people elected will it stop, no matter if the politicians are new blood or old. That probably won't happen until we move well beyond a two party system.

I like your attitude and admire your desire for change, but I'm afraid that America is fractured more than just politically. The politics are only a reflection of the overall fracture (economically, socially, ethically, racially, religiously, etc. ) of our once great nation.

akt2 7 years, 3 months ago

Men and sex. Politics and sex. I have yet to see a woman politician make a spectacle of herself over it. That would actually probably make the woman the better choice for president in that respect.

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