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Lawmaker critical of Sebelius’ son’s game

February 23, 2008

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Senator expresses disgust for Sebelius' board game

A board game created by the son of Kansas Governer Kathleen Sebelius is drawing fire from a state senator. Enlarge video

— Saying there is nothing funny about prison rape, a state senator on Friday called a board game created by John Sebelius - the son of Gov. Kathleen Sebelius - obscene, racist and unethical.

And state Sen. Tim Huelskamp, R-Fowler, requested an investigation into the marketing and sale of the prison-themed game, which is called "Don't Drop the Soap."

The game is on sale at Hobbs Inc., 700 Mass., and on John Sebelius' Web site, www.Gilliusinc.com.

Huelskamp also said he is concerned that John Sebelius may be marketing and possibly storing the game at Cedar Crest, the governor's residence.

He has requested the attorney general's office to investigate. He has also requested an opinion from the Kansas Ethics Commission, and a report from the Kansas Department of Corrections on the extent of prison rape in its facilities.

The governor was en route to the National Governor's Association meeting in Washington, D.C., and could not be reached for comment.

In previous news stories, the governor's spokeswoman Nicole Corcoran has said the governor and her husband, U.S. Magistrate Judge Gary Sebelius, are proud of their son's creativity.

Corcoran also said John Sebelius sought legal advice to be sure he followed proper requirements in selling the game.

In an interview with the Lawrence Journal-World, John Sebelius, 23, said he made up the game as his senior class project at the Rhode Island School of Design.

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Stain 6 years, 1 month ago

Who cares about this, really, except the political competition who wants to make an issue out of nothing?

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jayhawklawrence 6 years, 1 month ago

Looks like Tim Huelskamp may be one of Neufelds boys. Stirring up garbage and taking the focus off the bad publicity he is getting for the coal plant boondoggle.

I guess they are gambling that the average Kansas voter is really stupid.

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americorps 6 years, 1 month ago

Conejo,

Actually, I challenge you to find a statement of her defending the game...she simply is a mother who is proud of her son.

I guess you are against families standing together.

You are an anti-Family person, it's ok...if it is who you are, embrace it.

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beobachter 6 years, 1 month ago

Why is it, the average Republican legislator totally lacks the skills needed to do what he was elected for? Why can't Kansas voters wake up and see what they are voting for? Are they that ignorant?

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Conejo 6 years, 1 month ago

funny how the gov praises her son for being so thoughtful to create such a game yet at the same time decides to villify video games like Grand Theft Auto.

i guess pretend violence and racism is only okay if it's in a non-digital form? or perhaps only when it's made by family...

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toefungus 6 years, 1 month ago

Is the energy usage records for the Mansion available to the public? It would be interesting to see if our Gov has reduced her energy usage. I wonder if running a business out of the mansion has raised the watts? Or is that whats?

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Marion Lynn 6 years, 1 month ago

dozer (Cyberthug Wannabe) says:

Perhaps Sen. Tim Huelskamp, will assign Marion to investigate these egregious crimes.

Marion writes:

Don't get out much, huh, dozer?

I have already written several times on this forum that I think this investigation is a load and the kid should be left alone.

I wish I were getting a commission on each game that he is selling as a result of all the publicity though!

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sdinges 6 years, 1 month ago

If these people can't find something better to do with their time as elected officials, then I hope someone is running against them in the next state Republican primary. I'm seriously going to consider voting Democrat if this is -really- the quality of work I can expect from my Republican representatives.

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mom_of_three 6 years, 1 month ago

The legislator has plenty of other things to do. Just because he doesn't like the idea doesn't mean he has to "look into" anything.
C'Mon legislators - pass Jodi's law, look into the statistics related to that actual crime, and start protecting people in the state, instead of this....

Do something real, why don't you.

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maxcrabb 6 years, 1 month ago

I have a board game idea.

It's called "Commentary in Lawrence".

As the game progresses, a theoretical story is "published" in the local newspaper, and contestants guess how much of a response that story will receive.

Extra points for the following: -Amount of response -Degree of anger in posts -Number of people attacking each other regardless of the topic at hand -How long the story is kept alive by mindless arguments that no longer deal with the core issue but only seek to discredit others

I am a genius.

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solsken66 6 years, 1 month ago

There should be more important matters for Kansas government to be addressing than trying to strip individuals of their income/livelihood. There must be other game boards that need to be prohibited from ever reaching a Kansas resident. Where are the priorities? Look at some of the bills that have been passed over the years that gives KS taxpayers' money to private entities. The newspapers need to start digging to see how much of taxpayers' monies are going to private entities.

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Groanmaggot 6 years, 1 month ago

lets be republican and wave our flags and stomp our jackboots...and sing god bless umerica.... yeah lets do it....

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camper 6 years, 1 month ago

This is just my take and I don't know anything about the game. I see the parents allowing their son (a graduate) the freedom to create as he wishes. They did not endorse the game as their opinion, they are merely supportive of their son. I respect this, knowing that they new they'd receive a little flack. The real question: Why are politicians spending time on this. Give me a break.

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spywell 6 years, 1 month ago

This is a good point of discussion. It seems that the Kansas prison population is assumed to be subjected to forced rapes, even this is understood clear up to the highest office of Gov.. Think about why this young man, the Gov. son has prison rape on his mind enough to develop a board game about it.

Is It because discussion about the subject somehow has left it's mark on this young mans mind as a child? Or, is this young man just gay and has thoughts of prison rape? Who knows. Perhaps, mom or dad, said, if your bad, your going to go to prison and then you'll be soaped and raped. So don't drop the soap.

The Kansas legislature should be addressing the rapes that are going on inside of Kansas Prisons and passing laws to protect inmates from this form of torture and punishment at the hands of gangs of inmates. If your raped in prison its a crime. The legislature should be protecting it's inmates as other states have done.

The Gov. son displaying this subject is a national issue that should be treated seriously. Assuming that inmates should be raped is a tragedy of human condition in our nations prisons. Stop it now.

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beobachter 6 years, 1 month ago

Thank god we have all these real christian republicans protecting from these evil democrats. After all only they have seen the light and us heathens need to recognize that fact. Praise the lord! aka as W, the decider.

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dozer 6 years, 1 month ago

Yes Engwood, this country is falling apart because of Sebelius' and her immoral liberal cronies supporting gaming and gambling. Thank goodness no Republicans supporting gaming bills and always take the moral high road. wink wink in case you don't get it.

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dozer 6 years, 1 month ago

Perhaps Sen. Tim Huelskamp, will assign Marion to investigate these egregious crimes.

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Eride 6 years, 1 month ago

Doesn't our state legislature have anything GOOD to do?

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ENGWOOD 6 years, 1 month ago

Sebelius' making Kansas proud. Gambling and gaming that's the Governor's idea of economic development. Typical immoral liberal, Heck she will probably make it all the way to the White House and the whole country can share in our wealth.

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situveux1 6 years, 1 month ago

Why would you use a Cedar Crest address??? STUPID!!! Why shouldn't Huelskamp be critical...Sebelius handed the story to him on a silver platter!

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Marion Lynn 6 years, 1 month ago

Ah, I see that its_getting_warmer(Cyberthug) has poked its slimy head out of its shell!

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its_getting_warmer 6 years, 1 month ago

You notice somehow that Marioni assumes that high Google counts mean the same thing as commercial success?

He actually is walking proof that such is indeed not the case. Not even close.

And I heard that Blu-Blockers were thinking about seeking an injunction to protect their valued tradename.

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Stain 6 years, 1 month ago

An error in judgement, easily enough corrected: just stop marketing the game from the governor's mansion. He probably did not even consider that anyone would care. Now that it's obvious someone does, he can stop doing it.

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janeyb 6 years, 1 month ago

How many times have you heard a right-winger say that a pervert will get his in prison? I've heard comments about his pervert friends need to get him soap-on-a-rope. Things change when the GOP can use it to go after Democrats.

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dweezil222 6 years, 1 month ago

Just remember kiddies... prison rape is only funny when it's happening to Fred Phelps.

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Oracle_of_Rhode 6 years, 1 month ago

Wouldn't it be better if this cynical Republican legislator -- instead of trying to score political points against the Democratic governor by attacking her son -- addressed the REAL LIFE problem of prisons in Kansas? Just sayin'...

Kansas prison deaths

Since 1980, an average of 15 inmates have died in Kansas prisons every year, with the totals higher in later years as inmate populations have swelled. 4.1 percent of those deaths were ruled homicides.

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:Y5P06RNZlQ4J:www.kansas.com/290/story/273172.html+kansas+prison+deaths&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a http://www.thejusticeproject.org/state/in-your-state.html?related_regions=KS

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Marion Lynn 6 years, 1 month ago

Nothin' better than free SEO!

I love it when a plan comes together!

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Marion Lynn 6 years, 1 month ago

Kinda reminds you of someone else who has Page One rankings courtesy people who don't like him!

Woo Hoo!

Some method, huh!

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Marion Lynn 6 years, 1 month ago

Funny thing is, all this publicity is going to drive sales through the roof, at the mansion or not!

This guy is on the first page of Google about a dozen different ways and has not spent one thin dime to get there!

"Governor's Son's game"

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=governor%27s+son%27s+game&btnG=Google+Search

"Soap + prison"

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=soap+%2B+prison&btnG=Search

"prison game"

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=+prison+game&btnG=Search

"son of governor"

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=son+of+governor&btnG=Search

"drop soap"

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=drop+soap&btnG=Search

And my personal favourite,

"ljworld + soap"

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ljworld+%2B+soap&btnG=Search

I could go on but it's all the same!

You folks have done a wonderful job of promoting this guy's biz!

LOL!

You may hate him, you may want to get him busted but you can't stop talking about him and by doing so, you put him right at the top of serach engines!

roflmao!

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Dollypawpaw 6 years, 1 month ago

This kid should speak to Billy Carter for his expertise on marketing.

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Agnostick 6 years, 1 month ago

I have to side with commuter on this one. There are many things out in the entertainment, media, and gaming industries that are much more "offensive" than this. The game itself is a non-issue.

But to use the governor's mansion as the official corporate address? Monumentally stupid!!

At the very least, I think the governor and her son owe the citizens of Kansas a humble apology.

Agnostick agnostick@excite.com http://www.uscentrist.org http://www.americanplan.org

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janeyb 6 years, 1 month ago

Sen. Tim Huelskamp, R-Fowler this is old news, but of course it is an election year isn't it? This was debated and checked out for legality, including the internet sales tax crap, several weeks ago. I heard John's address was now in Lawrence, not the governor's mansion. Just another futile, limp wristed attempt to discredit Sebelius and the new AG that she appointed, and get a few more votes at home. Pathetic.

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commuter 6 years, 1 month ago

Merrill:

Would it be ok if the Bush girls created an abstinence game and used the White House address as the registered business address? Just Curious?

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commuter 6 years, 1 month ago

I personally do not have a problem with the game. Heck the kid (23 years old) started a company and trying to make his way in the world. Good for him.

The only thing I would have done differently is have a different address. To me it is just bad taste to use the Governor's Mansion as the registered address for the business. The incorporation documents were probally written up before the game but use a different address.

I personally believe any federal, state or local building should not be listed as a registered address for a For Profit Company, Not for Profit.

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Uhlrick_Hetfield_III 6 years, 1 month ago

Conservatives should love this kid. He's entrepreneurial, and creating his own business. Aside from that, how is Kathleen responsible for everything an adult child does? Please.

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Dollypawpaw 6 years, 1 month ago

This is a terrible game that disrespects prison love.

What a bunch of bigots.

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commuter 6 years, 1 month ago

The game sounds kinda cool. I went to the website and noted that it said it is not meant for children.

I am disappointed in the younger Sebelius using the Governor's mansion as the Registered Address with the Secretary of State, if my skills at using Google are correct.

http://www.governor.ks.gov/cedarcrest/index.html

http://www.accesskansas.org/srv-corporations/getRecord.do?number=4038675

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Morich 6 years, 1 month ago

I'm planning on purchasing a copy of this game. How many people're interested in going downtown and having a 'game night' ?

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Richard Heckler 6 years, 1 month ago

Legislators displaying irresponsibility. Frankly I would rather take a hard look at campaign donations of the two legislators so as to know whether or not Sunflower Electric has been contributing to their campaigns. Then let's debate conflicts of interest.

So long as the parents live at Cedar Crest then that is the family home. It goes with the job.

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CrazyDiamond 6 years, 1 month ago

Partisan politics are destroying our country.

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Paul R Getto 6 years, 1 month ago

More legislators wasting time on a nonissue.

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americorps 6 years, 1 month ago

I think the game is in poor taste,

however,

I am so freaking sick and tired of stupid morons like Hulskamp diverting government time and tax dollars for these nannny nanny boo boo childish issues and not focusing on healthcare, the economy, pollution, taxes, education and the other issues that they are elected to fix.

This guy simply needs to be made an example of and sent to prision for neglegent duty as an elected official. He and his neocon prototypes have done more harm to this country than Al-Queda ever could and they need to be stop terrorizing our country, wasting our tax dollars and pissing away their responsibilties,

he is a failed public servant.

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Marion Lynn 6 years, 1 month ago

More evidence that Kansas is just as stupid as you think it is!

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Baille 6 years, 1 month ago

If prison rape is something that should be taken seriously, then Rep Huelskamp should get off his dimpled backside and do something about it.

One of the most horrifying thing about the Missouri's framing and attempted premeditated killing of Joe Amrine was the fact that the prison officials responsible used two mentally handicapped inmates as witnesses against him. These two men had been raped almost every day of their life in prison and when later interviewed were little more than twitchy, quavering shells.

Huelskamp doesn't care about people like that. He is just playing politics.

Shut up, Tim, and sit down.

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jayhawklawrence 6 years, 1 month ago

Tim Huelskamp:

Probably not a future nobel prize winner.

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Frank Smith 6 years, 1 month ago

Dozer is right. We have a legislature determined to accomodate corporate interests, that can't work out revenue difficulties, that ignores the untaxes oil stripper well sector that gets off tax free, that is unable to deal with health issues, that has a substantial part that pretends global warming doesn't exist. So what is Huelskamp's response? Attack the stupid game put out by the governor's son and make unproven allegations as to its logistics.

Prison rape is a real problem, of course, but Kansas has one of the best Departments of Correction in the nation. The notion that this game has any effect on Kansas prison conditions is simply ludicrous.

Old lawyer's advice: When you have the law on your side, pound the law. When you have the facts on your side, pound the facts. When you don't have the law or the facts on your side, pound the table.

Huelskamp has taken that to heart.

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112233 6 years, 1 month ago

just poor taste, that's all...it's ok to make fun of crime and rape and such like?? ok, how about a holocaust game....ooh! that wouldn't be funny at all!! our "gov" and her son are low, vulgar, disgusting, philistines..... oh, i know, just wait long enough and everything evolves!

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dozer 6 years, 1 month ago

Poor taste maybe, but that doesn't mean its criminal or that you need to waste our money (tax $) on an investigation into where the game is stored. Huelskamp must not have enough to do. Get your priorities straight you smuck! We have a lot more serious issues in this state that need attention than where a board game is being stored.

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Steve Jacob 6 years, 1 month ago

Who cares. Not like he's growing pot in the basement or something.

I guess freedom of expression is out the window.

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hornhunter 6 years, 1 month ago

Now the young Sebelius is using Kansas tax dollars to provide an office and warehouse for personal profit. What next, probably isn't paying internet sales tax either if sold through the internet.
Sebelius' making Kansas proud.

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