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Turnout remains light in Douglas County voting

Problems reported in Baldwin City

February 27, 2007, 9:55 a.m. Updated February 27, 2007, 4:34 p.m.

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Michelle Eagleman and her daughter, Saya, 7, exit a poll booth at the Lawrence High School Annex.  Eagleman cast her vote on Tuesday at the voting station for the 27th precinct.

Michelle Eagleman and her daughter, Saya, 7, exit a poll booth at the Lawrence High School Annex. Eagleman cast her vote on Tuesday at the voting station for the 27th precinct.

Turnout was light at Lawrence and Douglas County polling precincts this morning as primary voting got under way.

At Trinity Lutheran Church, a polling place in East Lawrence, there was no line to vote at 9 a.m.

"It's been slow," said Mary Alexander. "We're at 17 (voters) right now - usually by now we have more."

Michael Shoen was one of the few voters on hand at Trinity. He said no particular issue brought him out.

"Just to vote," he said. "That way I feel I can complain, you know?"

Down in Baldwin City, election workers ran into early morning complications with the voting machines.

The computer cards that go in the voting machines had been inadvertently switched at two locations, said County Clerk Jamie Shew, who drove to Baldwin City and corrected the problem at around 8:30 a.m.

"The cards had been mismarked," said Shew.

Keith Campbell, Douglas County's elections deputy, said there were no reports of problems in Lawrence.

"Things are going really well," he said at 10 a.m. "My general impression is it's a little slow."

At least some good reading was getting done at the polls this afternoon.

Caleb Morse was halfway through a Dickens novel as he served as one of three poll workers at the USD 497 Administration Center, 110 McDonald Drive. There was plenty of time for reading as only 37 voters had voted as of 1 p.m. That represented about a 3.5 percent turnout rate for the precinct.

"I think we're pretty much just getting the die-hard voters," Morse said.

The busiest location of about a half-dozen precincts checked by the Journal-World was in West Lawrence at the Mustard Seed Christian Fellowship, 700 Wakarusa Drive. At about 1:30 p.m. there had been 150 voters, or about 9 percent turnout.

Still, poll workers there said it had been disappointing to see the lack of voters.

"A lot of people figure they will let others narrow it down and then they will vote in what they consider the real election," said Bernadette Traiger, a poll worker at Mustard Seed.

Among the few voters who were out this afternoon, several said they were not driven to the polls for any particular issue.

"I'm just here because people should vote," said Ruth Hagerman, who was voting at Mustard Seed.

A few voters, though, did say they had change on their mind.

"We need some new ideas," said Janice McClure, who was voting at the Free Methodist Church, 3001 Lawrence Avenue. "I don't want my property taxes to go up anymore and I want them to take care of the infrastructure before they worry about anything else."

The Free Methodist polling site had 57 voters or about 3.5 percent turnout at about 1:45 p.m.

Other turnout rates at polling places checked by the Journal-World this afternoon were:

¢ Deerfield Elementary, 101 Lawrence Avenue, had 77 voters, or about 6.5 percent turnout rate at about 1:15 p.m.

¢ Cordley Elementary, 1837 Vt., had 84 voters at 2 p.m.

¢ East Lawrence Recreation Center, 1245 E. 15th Street, had 54 voters, or about 5 percent turnout, at about 2:15 p.m.

¢ New York Elementary, 936 N.Y., had 48 voters, or about 5 percent turnout, at about 2:30 p.m.

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none2 7 years, 1 month ago

Bozo, you cannot teach someone who is closed minded.

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MyName 7 years, 1 month ago

Geez, there's no reason for anyone to hyperventilate. This was a low turnout election that only existed to weed out 3 of the candidates. The big money candidates got the most votes because everybody else was saving their budget for the real election. I'm not saying that the incumbants will still be around, but this election doesn't really indicate much of anything, except who shouldn't have tried to run for office in the first place.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 1 month ago

Maybe-- but you clearly have nothing to teach me.

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none2 7 years, 1 month ago

Bozo, come down off your self made cross. The wood should have been left on the tree to let it grow.

You have absolutely no clue how I voted. That comes from being totally clueless as to the world outside around you and the people that live here. Perhaps one day you will come out of your ivory tower and learn something.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 1 month ago

"If you want your people in office, you need to start being nice to every one and punt the elite attitudes."

Yet you likely just voted for the "power elite" candidates. You really are clueless.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 1 month ago

"4) Insisting that downtown must have a grocery store as though it would be beneath some people to walk/drive/bike/T to 19th and Mass or 9th and Iowa."

Who is insisting on a grocery store downtown? There was a recommendation for one in that study that Sue Hack and the Chamber of Commerce commissioned-- but Dever and Chestnut are their boys. Exactly who are you complaining about? Do you really have any idea?

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 1 month ago

"3) Insisting that one is green while funding a huge near-empty-bus fleet that spew fumes and eat tax payer $$$'s -- and to wanting to spend even MORE to merge."

No, it's called having the foresight to realize that mass transit that involves something beside single occupancy vehicles takes a bit of time to develop, and it's the smart thing to do as the stupid dependence on dwindling foreign oil supplies tightens like a noose around our necks.

It may impinge a little on your little John-Wayne vision of yourself, but sometimes you have to face reality.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 1 month ago

"2) Spending enormous amounts of money on round-a-bouts when a simple speed bump would have sufficed if it was really needed."

Enough of the crap about roundabouts. Most of them do exactly what they are designed to do, which is to facilitate the flow of traffic-- they don't have the same purpose as a speed bump. This is a perfect example of taking a non-issue, and through sheer repetition, you drown out any meaningful discussion about real issues.

No wonder nobody wants to pay attention and take the time to vote.

But keeping voters at home on election day is exactly the point, isn't it?

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 1 month ago

"1) Spending 1/4 a million dollars on consultants to benefit only a small portion of the entire city."

That $250,000 group was brought in at the behest of Sue Hack and the Chamber of Commerce. Their primary recommendation was to "streamline" planning and permitting in such a way that would pretty much make it impossible for the public to be involved any more. The rest of it was nothing but meaningless window dressing.

So what "small portion" of the city do you suppose they intend to benefit with that?

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Mkh 7 years, 1 month ago

Posted by kshiker (anonymous) on February 27, 2007 at 9:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Bozo --

"Have you actually looked at the list of contributors to Dever and Chestnut? If you did, you would see that a great deal of contributions come from people who do not have "very narrow commercial interests." Instead, they have attracted a very broad base of support from everyday individuals like myself who are fed up with the PLC."

kshiker....

Of course not every donor to these campaigns has ties to the development community. However, my question to you is, how often do you or "everyday individuals" have to go infront of the City Commission to seek permission for MILLION dollar deals?

Do you ever do this? I'm assuming from your innocent tone that you do not. But do you know who does? The Fritzels, Doug Compton and every major developer in this city who has given to these candidates and gotten their friends to do the same. Therefore it is essential that they have "friends" on the Commission who will not stand up to them overbuilding, overpriced garbage.

Do you think Dever and Chesnut will forget who made them the hot topic at all the Alvamar dinner parties? Do you think they will forget who bankrolled them when they hold the purse strings?

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Marion Lynn 7 years, 1 month ago

x96Merrill3 wrote:

"Posted by x96merrill3 (anonymous) on February 27, 2007 at 10:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Now, my memory might be failing me but as I recall, Bozo cheats on his wife, beats puppies, and once threw a hitchhiker off the 2nd St. Bridge. Keep spinning Bozo...it won't change the facts. The numbers don't lie. Your boys got smoked. Sure, there are still 6 more weeks before it's official, but in 7 weeks a breath of fresh air will grace city hall and we can get down to the business of making this town a better place to live. Even for you puppy murderers.

FYI..someone save this brilliant post because it's sure to be removed."

Marion writes:

Done and done.

Thank you for your insightful and ACCURATE post!

Thanks.

Marion.

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justsomewench 7 years, 1 month ago

i'm sure lowbrow namecalling is just what any candidates wants their supporters to do. i don't attempt to berate you for your choice, have the decency and respect to others for their own opinions, too.

(ironically, you've made assumptions as to who my votes were cast for. you'd be surprised. that's what all that pissiness gets you. makes it rather uncomfortable think we'd have to share a camp in our support. i tend to be a bit more congenial than that. ugly, my friend, just ugly.)

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kshiker 7 years, 1 month ago

Good luck with that. As for my "defensiveness" I suppose I am just a tad bit upset that certain idiots on this website (not to mention names....Bozo and friends....) can't seem to drop this campaign finance nonsense and debate the candidates on the merits of their positions on the issues.

The last time I checked the Governor of this state recently raised and spent over $5 million in her reelection campaign (to the Republican challenger's just over $1 million) and we didn't hear this outcry from the left that the election had been bought. The fact is that the Governor was overwhelmingly popular this year and the amount of money raised by a campaign is one indicator of popular support for a candidate.

The fact of the matter is that the campaigns of the candidates who were successful tonight have been very successful in getting their message out to the voters of Lawrence and have reaped the rewards of relationships built over the course of the last grueling year of campaigning. As things progress to the general election, I would urge them to continue their efforts as they have obviously began to bear fruit. As for the sore losers of the night, good luck in the general election campaign and please refrain from making unfounded and irresponsible accusations with no facts.

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justsomewench 7 years, 1 month ago

snippy one, you are. why so defensive? i think you simply may have miscategorized them as middle class, is all. if we all could afford $300+ homes, lawrence might just be in better shape.

for the record, i don't follow posters commentaries around, so whatever beef you have with bozo, you'll have to deal with on your own.

all this kneejerk defensiveness can't be good for your blood pressure. you get your vote and i get mine. neither one of us has to agree.

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kshiker 7 years, 1 month ago

Why not? If you are disappointed with the current slate of candidates, why don't you run for office? Better yet, why don't you put your own money where your mouth is and support some of the PLC candidates? Instead, you and Bozo seem to be content to whine on here about the "power elite" controlling the city. Do something about it if you really hold those views. Just stop parading this pathetic bribing argument; its ridiculous and misleading.

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justsomewench 7 years, 1 month ago

i'm not running for office, hiker.

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kshiker 7 years, 1 month ago

That would probably be absolutely proper to post on a public website. You post your annual salary first wench and then everyone else will follow suit.

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justsomewench 7 years, 1 month ago

just looking at the property valuations alone doesn't strike me as middle class living unless they're living well beyond their means. and, if so, you have to wonder how they'd manage the city's budget.

maybe i'm misunderstanding the definition of 'middle class'.

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none2 7 years, 1 month ago

Though I wasn't happy with most of the choices, it was to be expected. It reminds me of the old legend that Nero played the fiddle while Rome burned.

No matter how nice downtown is you cannot neglect the rest of the city. Most of us DO love Lawrence's Historic Downtown. However, we are ONE city whether we like it or not. Too many things have gone too far: 1) Spending 1/4 a million dollars on consultants to benefit only a small portion of the entire city. 2) Spending enormous amounts of money on round-a-bouts when a simple speed bump would have sufficed if it was really needed. 3) Insisting that one is green while funding a huge near-empty-bus fleet that spew fumes and eat tax payer $$$'s -- and to wanting to spend even MORE to merge. 4) Insisting that downtown must have a grocery store as though it would be beneath some people to walk/drive/bike/T to 19th and Mass or 9th and Iowa.

All these things show an elite-ism from the downtown area and their followers that will eventually cause their downfall. If you want people on your side, you cannot take, take, take. You have to learn to share. I'm not saying that the current commissioners are horrible people. However, their followers have caused them to lean so far out of touch with what is best for the ENTIRE city. If you want your people in office, you need to start being nice to every one and punt the elite attitudes.

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justsomewench 7 years, 1 month ago

middle-class? no offense, but where is the public disclosure about the paychecks these folks receive.

i think i missed that link.

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x96merrill3 7 years, 1 month ago

Now, my memory might be failing me but as I recall, Bozo cheats on his wife, beats puppies, and once threw a hitchhiker off the 2nd St. Bridge.
Keep spinning Bozo...it won't change the facts. The numbers don't lie. Your boys got smoked. Sure, there are still 6 more weeks before it's official, but in 7 weeks a breath of fresh air will grace city hall and we can get down to the business of making this town a better place to live. Even for you puppy murderers.

FYI..someone save this brilliant post because it's sure to be removed.

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Marion Lynn 7 years, 1 month ago

David Schauner:

OUT, DAMNED SPOT!

Thanks.

Marion.

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macon47 7 years, 1 month ago

we still may have a booger up our nose

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kshiker 7 years, 1 month ago

More of the same crap Bozo. Get back to me when you have a new argument. Enough with the innuendo and accusations; get some facts before you attempt to make another one of your pathetic arguments. I would be interested in seeing a breakdown of Chestnut and Dever's contributions by industry. I think you will find that the total input from the development industry is not that great. For the most part, they are just average middle-class Lawrence citizens like myself and others on this forum who are tired of the PLC and want to make an impact in the City Commission race.

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Marion Lynn 7 years, 1 month ago

To quote The Boss:

"Goin' down, down, down....................."

Marion writes:

May the Lord bless and keep the PLC as by this time it is clear that if He does not, no one else will.

Thanks.

Marion.

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KsTwister 7 years, 1 month ago

I think I am waiting for Lawrence to move on and move up. Deal with it. Five generations and the last 10 years have soured a lot of people. The votes are in, well this is getting better.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 1 month ago

"unfriendly City Commission."

Oh, I expect it to be a very friendly city commission-- very friendly indeed to the highest bidders that just bought it.

And we'll get more of the same crap that we had for decades that created pretty much every problem we now have.

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kshiker 7 years, 1 month ago

Definitely not interested in that. What I really want is for arrogant jerks like yourself to stop ruining our nice little city with your hippie agenda. So enough arguments about how certain groups are buying the election or, my personal favorite, "glazing" the eyes of voters.

The PLC will soon be defeated (Highberger will probably hang on) and you can start your 2 years of griping about an unfriendly City Commission. The joy of democracy; you'll have your chance again in 2009. Again, I enjoy your insightful arguments as always and am waiting for you to cite more facts like you did above (wait a minute, those were completely incorrect)! It is time for you to stop selling your used and incoherent ideology. Get over it and move on.

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KsTwister 7 years, 1 month ago

Light voter turnout and votes cannot get tallied in a reasonable time. What gives? Must be waiting for the retirement home votes to get more with resistance to change?

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 1 month ago

For your sake, I hope you get your secret decoder ring of the inner sanctum of really important people, kshiker.

But more likely, they'll just think your an ignorant jerk who doesn't realize what a tool he is.

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kshiker 7 years, 1 month ago

Bozo --

Haven't read it. I'm assuming it would be a fairly large waste of time since Thomas Frank is a bonified member of the Birkenstock-wearing, Merc-shopping, I hate progress and people who pay taxes crowd! Have you ever read "How Not to Be an Arrogant Jerk Who Spends Way Too Much Time Spewing Forth BS on Ljworld.com?" I would recommed it; you may be enlightened.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 1 month ago

Ever read "What's the Matter with Kansas?" kshiker?-- he was talking about you.

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kshiker 7 years, 1 month ago

Bozo --

Have you actually looked at the list of contributors to Dever and Chestnut? If you did, you would see that a great deal of contributions come from people who do not have "very narrow commercial interests." Instead, they have attracted a very broad base of support from everyday individuals like myself who are fed up with the PLC.

More innuendo; again no facts. Thanks for enlightening us all with your endless supply of BS. Keep on trucking Bozo.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 1 month ago

How is it character assasination to point out that Dever and Chestnut recieve money almost exclusively from people with very narrow commercial interests, and connecting the dots says that that is how they will vote as city commissioners?

It's just the facts, Jack.

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kshiker 7 years, 1 month ago

Bozo --

Wow! It looks like I just got a country club membership and I didn't even have to pay for it. Too bad I don't play golf!

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 1 month ago

"Bozo spreads lies again ,"

Oh, come on, cowboy-- I prefaced my remarks with an acknowledgement that my memory might not be correct. But I guess that little opening to label me as a "liar" was just too much to resist, wasn't it? I guess I shouldn't be surprised that you'll be petty any chance you get.

But the fact remains that if there is a big turnout as there was 4 years ago, it's bad news for the big-money candidates.

So are you praying for an alienated and disinterested electorate, cowboy? Because that's what it'll take for the country-club set to retake the city commission.

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Dambudzo 7 years, 1 month ago

Primaries in this town have always motivated liberals to vote in April.

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kshiker 7 years, 1 month ago

Bozo --

Character assassination??? Who is doing the character assassination? You need to take a look in the mirror.

The last time I checked I have not said a single thing about the personal character of any of the 3 PLC candidates at the top of the ticket. I do believe they have misplaced priorities and are poor leaders for the City of Lawrence, but they are probably good people in their private lives.

However, I do take issue with you routinely questioning the character of candidates and insinuating (or spreading outright falsehoods) that they are somehow on the take or in the campaign for the benefit of their personal business interests. The charges are ridiculous and pathetic.

Like I said before, if you feel your candidates are underfunded, round up some of your hippie buddies and open your checkbooks. These candidates are running because they are concerned about the future of their city and want to see change. Why don't you take some of your own advice and focus on the issues? Or you can continue to "snipe" and engage in "character assassination" which is typical on this forum, only it typically comes from you. Did you write the formula???

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armyguy 7 years, 1 month ago

I just looked at the County election results web site. I feel sorry for one person running for a USD 343 School Board that didn't even get one vote. That's got to smart.

http://www.douglas-county.com/clerk/electionresults.asp

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cowboy 7 years, 1 month ago

Bozo spreads lies again ,

"Many observers were stunned Feb. 25 when the Progressive Lawrence trio swept the top three spots in the primary election. "

do you just make this crap up !

Now what needs to happen is for bush to close the gap on boog and knock him out.

Bye Bye PLC

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 1 month ago

"Just like any other election, the key to this election is motivating your base and getting your voters to the polls."

Exactly, and if your base knows that their wallet will be much fatter if they get out and vote, motivating your base requires almost no effort. But if your base is a minority in the city, the real key then becomes making sure nobody else votes. Which is exactly what happened tonight.

Keeping voters totally disinterested in taking part in city government, along with the petty sniping and character assasination so typical on these forums, and you've got a winning formula.

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armyguy 7 years, 1 month ago

Well said kshiker, I plan on giving a small donation to the three that I would like to see win. I may only be a few dollars but even a few will buy more signs etc. I is easy to sit back and complain instead of actively attempting to help a campaign.

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justsomewench 7 years, 1 month ago

dever and chestnut are the same candidate. from one majority to another.

be careful what you wish for, folks. you'll hate these guys in 3 years.

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kshiker 7 years, 1 month ago

Sigmund --

My mistake. This is horrible, but I might have confused you with Bozo for a second. A thousand apologies and it will not happen again! Gonna lay off the IQ comment. Sorry!

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Baille 7 years, 1 month ago

Looks like the pro-cancer developers bought two of the three available seats. Great.

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kshiker 7 years, 1 month ago

Bozo --

Your last comment really represents the pinnacle of arrogance and is truly quite pathetic. Apparently the "power elite" are so all-powerful that they have "alienated" voters and "glazed" their eyes to make them not vote.

Wow! That is big news. The next time they won't have to campaign so hard and can go ahead and take down all those yard signs that I see blanketing the city. All they need to do to win the general election is keep on "alienating" and "glazing" those voters.

Just like any other election, the key to this election is motivating your base and getting your voters to the polls. PLC candidates have just been out-worked on this one and will continue to be out-worked. People are fed up with your out-of-touch and arrogant ideas and are ready for change.

Your arguments that the pro-growth candidates are essentially being bribed into office is quite interesting as well. As usual, your arguments are full of innuendo and short on facts. If you feel that your candidates are under-funded, get together 1,000 of your hippie buddies and donate $20 to your favorite candidate.

I'm sure the heck not a real estate developer or stand to gain from pro-growth policies, but I've opened my checkbook and donated my time to the pro-growth candidates because I know they are good for the future of Lawrence and for my family.

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armyguy 7 years, 1 month ago

Oops, I should have added retired Social workers also.

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armyguy 7 years, 1 month ago

Wow, I did not realize that barbers and grocery store employees were part of the power elite golfing set.

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Sigmund 7 years, 1 month ago

Opps, it just seems like 1600+ posts, actually it is 1396 and everyone is a gem!

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 1 month ago

"The turnout argument is a pleasant diversion."

It's not a pleasant diversion. It's really depressing and pretty well typifies how the power elite retains control. Keep the vast majority of voters alienated and eyes glazed over so they don't even bother voting. When voter turnout is really low, that works in favor of the relatively small group of voters who know that they will (literally) profit quite handsomely, from getting and voting their golf buddies into office.

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kshiker 7 years, 1 month ago

These results are obviously disappointing for PLC candidates; no matter what public prognostications their supporters may make.

The turnout argument is a pleasant diversion. 4 years ago there was fairly significant turnout in favor of the PLC crowd. However, 2 years ago turnout was decidedly in favor of pro-growth candidates and they were successful in gaining 2 seats on the City Commission. This election will be exactly the same as 2005.

Believe me, neither I nor any fat ladies will be singing any time soon. There is a great deal of work to do before the general election, but these results are clearly very promising for the no longer silent majority of Lawrence citizens who would like to see change.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 1 month ago

Dever is the top vote-getter with just under 5000 votes. In 2003, Schauner took third place in the general with just over 7000 votes.

The primary merely weeded out the three candidates who took this election on as a lark.

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Sigmund 7 years, 1 month ago

kshiker, obviously you mistaken me for a PLC supporter. I think anyone with an IQ greater than 50 and have read more than two of my 1600+ posts realizes this could not be further from the truth!

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 1 month ago

All precincts are now reporting, and turnout looks to be extremely low.

A big turnout in the general, such as what happened 4 years ago, could dramatically change this result.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 1 month ago

Every now and then, Sigmund, we agree.

If memory serves correctly, 4 years ago the PLC candidates were not the leaders in the primary, but swept the general.

The fat lady aint singing yet.

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kshiker 7 years, 1 month ago

Sigmund --

Enough of the spinning! The anti-growth nuts have been bragging on this website for months that pro-growth citizens would not come out to vote today. With the exception of Highberger (who is the most reasonable of the bunch), your PLC candidates are running fairly weak across the entire city. Dever, Chestnut and Highberger will be the Top 3 in the general election and there will be a 4 to 1 pro-growth majority on the City Commission.

This is pathetic. Just admit that people are tired of the PLC and ready for change.

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Sigmund 7 years, 1 month ago

First of all, this isn't a "real" election (nobody gets elected) only the weakest two get eliminated. An 11%-12% sample of highly motivated citizens is as valid for this purpose as a higher percentage that included citizens of lower motivation. At the end of the day there will be six candidates representative of very diverse views for three open seats. I can not wait to vote in the general election!

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Tom Shewmon 7 years, 1 month ago

Momma, looks like all the creeps stayed home today...hehe.

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Christine Pennewell Davis 7 years, 1 month ago

I do not like voteing places in schools, why talk school safty then let people just walk in to the school just because you have the privlige to vote does not mean you are not a creep.

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Tom Shewmon 7 years, 1 month ago

Unless the election was ala Iraqi style in the event of a Socialist runner wink, wink.......

You guys are all top-notch!!

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Dambudzo 7 years, 1 month ago

I think there is a 99% turnout on a typical socialist voting day.

The loons in this town are obviously "lazy" socialists.

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Dambudzo 7 years, 1 month ago

"I am with the Immolation party. We are currently in search of leadership,"

So you ARE a republican!

That is waay out of context, fancy pants.

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Tom Shewmon 7 years, 1 month ago

What happened? Isn't there any Socialist Party candidates running?

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Dambudzo 7 years, 1 month ago

I bet most people that take the time to post here are the kind of people that would vote.

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Confrontation 7 years, 1 month ago

I don't know what number I was at my voting place. It was 5pm, and there were two other people there.

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macon47 7 years, 1 month ago

IT IS A SAD STATE OF AFFAIRS while the working class have plenty of time to vote, they use it as an excuse. BUT THE LOSERS, VAGABONDS, WHINERS AND GADABOUTS THAT LIVE IN THIER PARENTS BASEMENTS ARE MAKING SURE THEIR CANDIDATE GETS ELECTED. thats how the plc got in the last time no one thought they would get it. but they did. it is no fault but our own. but is ok, just pay your taxes, and they will keep spending it on warm and fuzzy things

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 1 month ago

"This is the first election that you can vote for Bush and not show any remorse for it."

Don't speak too soon.

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armyguy 7 years, 1 month ago

4.45 pm and I am voter number 58. What a sad state of affairs. Hopefully there will be more folks voting as they get off work

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OldEnuf2BYurDad 7 years, 1 month ago

"It seems nobody cares"

Get real: Not even CNN can get off of Anna Nicole, so what makes us think that the average Joe is going to put down his remote (or his mouse) long enough to figure out who to vote for then go do it. Even I didn't really look at any of the candidates until about 5 mintues before going to my polling station.

If MICHAEL JACKSON was running, we'd all be out voting (even if not for him). Here's the equation: LEADERS < ROCK STARS

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OldEnuf2BYurDad 7 years, 1 month ago

That's a really bad photo of Michelle. Makes her look like a drunk female version of Jay Leno.

I've known Michelle for a long time. She takes better pics than that!

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GetItRight 7 years, 1 month ago

I was number 41 at my polling site....just after 2:00p.

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OldEnuf2BYurDad 7 years, 1 month ago

You know who I feel sorry for? The candidate who's a CHRISTIAN named BUSH. As if, in Lawrence, he's got a chance.

I just hope we don't elect that MUSICIAN to the commission. His only agenda: bringing the cancer back to our restaurants. He'll probably make sunglassess sales tax exempt, too.

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justthefacts 7 years, 1 month ago

Some people will just go later.... That happens more often in primaries where the outcome isn't already in the bag by the time the polls close.

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Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 7 years, 1 month ago

A lot of people have already voted in advanced voting.

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Ceallach 7 years, 1 month ago

I voted at 12:30, sadly, I was voter number 21.

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budwhysir 7 years, 1 month ago

I am somewhat amazed by the term "GET OUT AND VOTE" in todays world, I am not sure how this phrase was coined but I understand that the only way to vote is to get out and vote.

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kj 7 years, 1 month ago

I will be voting as soon as I get off of work. I hope people do get out and vote. Hopefully more people are out this afternoon.

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SoundMind 7 years, 1 month ago

"This is why (low voter turnout) we need a differant form of city government. It's a shame when millions of dollars in the city budget are in the hands of commissioners elected by a lackluster voter turnout. It seems nobody cares until the money is spent."

One of the most rational comments I think I've ever seen on the LJWorld boards.

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50YearResident 7 years, 1 month ago

This is why (low voter turnout) we need a differant form of city government. It's a shame when millions of dollars in the city budget are in the hands of commissioners elected by a lackluster voter turnout. It seems nobody cares until the money is spent.

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Andini 7 years, 1 month ago

This is the first election that you can vote for Bush and not show any remorse for it.

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scenebooster 7 years, 1 month ago

"I am with the Immolation party. We are currently in search of leadership,"

So you ARE a republican!

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The_Original_Bob 7 years, 1 month ago

Conservative -

Good correction to the poor analogy.

Also, "name-calling" was probably what got her booted. I don't ever hit "suggest removal" so it twasn't me.

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monkeyhawk 7 years, 1 month ago

I was voter 48 at my polling place.

But, there was a "famous" person there casting a vote. The poll workers were in awe.

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Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 7 years, 1 month ago

It's sad people don't come out for the local elections. These elections probably mean more the nationals - at least it touches your life more directly.

dambudzo - there are no political parties involved in local elections. It's clear you aren't very educated about local politics.

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couranna1 7 years, 1 month ago

read all my posts if that is all you think I do get a clue

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conservative 7 years, 1 month ago

Couranna, I'll agree with you on this one. I can't remember anything offensive in your post. Also strange they left mine, because usually they delete any reference to an offending post also.

In your restraunt analagy you do vote. You voted with your checkbook by not giving them any money.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 1 month ago

"I am with the Immolation party. We are currently in search of leadership, care to step up to the alter."

As they say, lead, follow or get out the way. I'll choose the last in this case.

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JumporFall 7 years, 1 month ago

I was voter number 86 at my polling place.

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The_Original_Bob 7 years, 1 month ago

Couranna - Why don't you brush up on the LJW posting policy.

And while you are at it, reread my post. I didn't use the tired old cliche that you think you are being intelligent about. I just think it's funny. Of course you have the right to complain. That's all you do on here anyway.

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couranna1 7 years, 1 month ago

ljw site staff why was it removed speak to me oh great ones

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Godot 7 years, 1 month ago

I was voter number 76 at my polling place.

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couranna1 7 years, 1 month ago

First I cannot believe my post was removed for what I said and second if I go out to eat and do not like what is on the menu I do not have to order anything I can complain and not vote remove that schmucks

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Dambudzo 7 years, 1 month ago

I am with the Immolation party. We are currently in search of leadership, care to step up to the alter.

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sandysslick 7 years, 1 month ago

GET OUT AND VOTE! Remember, let us bend over those liberals and shove it in them!

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macon47 7 years, 1 month ago

i sure didnt have to stand in line very long at 10 am it is a shame when you actually dont vote FOR any candidiate, JUST AGAINST THE ONES IN OFFICE and the folks that are so confused, they have to have two names

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 1 month ago

I guess that means you aren't a Republican, then, right, dambudzo?

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Dambudzo 7 years, 1 month ago

Republicans haven't voted yet, they're working.

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justthefacts 7 years, 1 month ago

For those who want to see the answers candidates gave to a few questions (put to them by people who submitted questions to them, on-line) check out the chats the LJW sponsored (thank you LJW): and don't miss the notes left by the commenting public....

http://www2.ljworld.com/chats/archive/

Reading these won't take too much time. Then you CAN be better informed and CAN vote with at least some idea of why you voted for (or against) someone!

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lounger 7 years, 1 month ago

C. M. MOODY is active in the enviorment and kudos to her for all of her work on the river. she has been at alot of the river gatherings that i have attended, even offered to watch my daughter while i looked around. she will get my vote for sure.

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TtownKUlivin 7 years, 1 month ago

I'm just really glad that the candidates did a lot of work to get there message across to the voters. I have no clue what any of this people are thinking about bringing to the city, how they'll do anything different from the other candidates and quite frankly, that's the reason I can complain without voting. I do not have the time to sit down and research every candidate, because I do have other things to get done. I mean, what difference does it make if I voted or not? My complaints won't be heard with open ears.

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conservative 7 years, 1 month ago

No couranna, if you don't vote then you're an idiot if you complain. Right now today you have a chance to have your opionion matter, if you don't exercise that right then you obviously don't care and therefore shouldn't care enough to complain later.

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couranna1 7 years, 1 month ago

This comment was removed by the site staff for violation of the usage agreement.

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The_Original_Bob 7 years, 1 month ago

This will be great. No one votes. Everyone bitches.

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conservative 7 years, 1 month ago

There was a rush at the polls when I voted at 7:40. There were two of us there at the same time! I was the 14th person to vote in the precinct.

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