Boise, Idaho — Sen. Larry Craig says he's innocent despite pleading guilty and sorry for any embarrassment.
"I am not gay. I never have been gay," the Idaho Republican said Tuesday in his first public appearance since disclosure of his arrest in June by an undercover police officer in a Minneapolis airport men's room.
Craig, a third-term senator from Idaho, proclaimed his innocence as well as his sexuality less than an hour after Senate leaders from his own Republican Party called for an ethics committee review of his case.
"This is a serious matter," they said in Washington in a written statement that offered neither support nor criticism of the conservative senator. Issued in the names of Sen. Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the party leader, and several others, the statement said they were examining "other aspects of the case to determine if additional action is required."
Craig, his wife, Suzanne, at his side, took no questions in a brief appearance in the capital city of the state he has represented in Congress for more than two decades in the House and then the Senate.
He had "overreacted and made a poor decision" when he was apprehended by an undercover police officer in a men's room at the Minneapolis airport and later pleaded guilty.
"While I was not involved in any inappropriate conduct in the Minneapolis Airport or anywhere else, I chose to plead guilty to a lesser charge in hopes of making it go away." He said he kept the information from his friends, family and staff, adding, "I wasn't eager to share this failure but I should have anyway because I am not gay."
Nor did he hire a lawyer, Craig said, although he now has retained counsel "to review the matter and advise me on how to proceed."
"I have brought a cloud over Idaho and for that I seek and ask the people of Idaho to forgive me," he said.
His account contrasted sharply with the complaint in the case, in which an undercover officer said that Craig, occupying a stall in the men's room, engaged in actions "often used by persons communicating a desire to engage in sexual conduct."
Craig was read his rights, fingerprinted and required to submit to a mug shot at the time of his arrest.
Police notes also show that on June 22, 11 days after the arrest, Craig returned to the police station and said no one had yet contacted him about his case. "Craig told me that he needs a contact so his lawyer can speak to someone," wrote the officer who spoke with the senator, Adam Snedker.
The senator signed and dated his guilty plea to a charge of disorderly conduct on Aug. 1, and court papers indicate it was submitted by mail and filed a week later. The court docket said Craig paid $575 in fines and fees and was put on unsupervised probation for a year. A sentence of 10 days in the county workhouse was stayed.
Craig, up for re-election next year, said he would announce his plans next month. If anything, he sounded like a man inclined to seek six more years in the Senate.
"Over the years, I have accomplished a lot for Idaho, and I hope Idahoans will allow me to continue to do that," he said.
Regardless of Craig's plans, it was clear his political standing had suffered.
On Monday, he resigned from a prominent role with Republican Mitt Romney's presidential campaign.
Another Republican running for president, Sen. John McCain of Arizona, distanced himself from Craig and his guilty plea. "It's disgraceful," McCain told host Jay Leno during a taping of NBC's "The Tonight Show" for broadcast Tuesday night. "It harms our reputation with the American people."
Craig, 62, has faced rumors about his sexuality since the 1980s, but allegations that he had engaged in gay sex have never been substantiated. He has denied the assertions.
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tanzer (anonymous) says…
The question isn't whether he is gay but was he behaving lewdly in the bathroom... lewdness knows no sexual orientation.
imastinker (anonymous) says…
I coiuldn't care less what the NYT says. I also couldn't care less whether he is gay.
What I am curious about is what he actually did that was intrepreted as a sigh that he wanted to have gay sex. I've been using men's rooms my whole life and have no idea. On the radio it says that he tapped his foot or somehting like that. I will now make certian that my feet are planted well on the ground from now on.........
cait48 (anonymous) says…
Yeah yeah and if you believe him I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell ya.
staff04 (anonymous) says…
imastinker--
No kidding...I'll definitely not be taking my iPod in the crapper with me from now on...
Haiku_Cuckoo (anonymous) says…
He's obviously gay, but I don't see how the charges will stick. Did he actually say anything to the undercover cop or did he merely tap his feet and put his hand under the divider? Will he be embraced by the gay community since he is "one of them" so to speak?
staff04 (anonymous) says…
Haiku...He pled guilty to the charges. No need to worry about them sticking, as they've already stuck...
deec (anonymous) says…
Did you get that "more than I need to know" info off Fox news, or is that personal experience talking?
ramsrevenge (anonymous) says…
All he did was play footsie with the guy in the next stall. Big deal. I mean, who hasn't done that before?
acg (anonymous) says…
Hehee, imagine that. Another family values conservative republican caught with his pants down. Now there's a big shocker, that the party of hate and hypocrisy has produced another immoral hypocrite. Well now, wonders never cease, do they?
aeroscout17 (anonymous) says…
Ok, I'm guessing not gay but Bisexual (he does have a wife and kids). Not that I care about that. What I do care about is the integrity of our elected officials. I am sick and tired of the lying and misinformation from our elected officials
Godot (anonymous) says…
Wow, I guess it is illegal to be gay and a flirt in Minneapolis. Who knew?
deec (anonymous) says…
Well, since I am a straight woman, I was just curious about why tighty righty has such detailed info.
daddax98 (anonymous) says…
So RT, what does that have to do with this guy trying to get some in the airport bathroom
Uhlrick_Hetfield_III (anonymous) says…
In days of old a sex scandal had you out the door in days. A good tradition that should be revived. I'm tired of rich celebrities and politicians being treated like they're above the laws us mortals have to follow. He should resign - today.
daddax98 (anonymous) says…
"Correct, but A. This was swirling on the frothy left before he did"
Really I hadn't heard a thing about it until a couple of days ago had anyone else?
EXks (anonymous) says…
This guy is in the same CLOSET that Roy Cohn (the right-hand man of the infamous Sen. Joseph McCarthy, he was also a closeted gay Jew who used his power against other Jews and gays, who also died of AIDS) and Jay Edgar Hoover. Nice to know every one of them was a family values kind of guy......LOL!
Uhlrick_Hetfield_III (anonymous) says…
According to Randy Schofield of the Wichita Eagle Craig is up for election in 2008 and "his seat could be wide open next year."
staff04 (anonymous) says…
daddax said,
"Really I hadn't heard a thing about it until a couple of days ago had anyone else?"
Actually, the rumors have been around for a long time, but for right_thinker to insinuate that it has been "swirling on the frothy left" is obviously disingenuous, as almost no one knows about earlier accusations--it was all mostly "inside the beltway" chatter.
Back in the early 80's before he was married, he had to defend his sexuality, then again in 2004 (I think), it was rumored that he solicited a man in a restroom in Union Station in D.C., blocks from his Senate office. The information has been obviously well protected, as we didn't find out about this June incident for 2 months, even after the man had plead guilty to the offending behavior. It must be that liberal media...
Uhlrick_Hetfield_III (anonymous) says…
Well it's apparently not the first time his seat's been wide open, so perhaps his experience will help him weather the storm.
Uhlrick_Hetfield_III (anonymous) says…
Incidentally, for the sake of "full disclosure", I'm stealing these lines from the WEblog. This is just too good not to share.
consumer1 (anonymous) says…
Lawrence Kansas Home of the sexual identity police, where we mind everyone else's business in the name of diversity and equality.
geekin_topekan (anonymous) says…
Where's Phred when you need him?He's pretty knowledgable on how to disguise one's gayness.
Well,not really.
You know what I mean.
Godot (anonymous) says…
I think toe-tapping and hand waving could be considered a form of speech. Isn't that a protected activity?
daddax98 (anonymous) says…
Godot, yes but it is not the speech that is illegal it is the solicitation of sex that is
Bubbles (anonymous) says…
Where is the ACLU? Shouldn't they be protecting this guys right to a knobber? Where is the support of all those men that seek out other men for knobbers? This incident is right up a liberals alley. Where is the liberal support?
kneejerkreaction (anonymous) says…
logrithmic (Anonymous) says:
Another hypocritical RepublicKLAN. What's news?
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And another stupid liberal comment. Nothing new there.
Ceallach (anonymous) says…
Surprise, surprise, there are hypocritical, self-serving Republicans! Craig is a jerk in so many different ways. I did feel sorry for his wife as she stood next to him while he explained that he was innocent and so many other forces were persecuting him. Pitiful! But there are such people in every walk of life.
What totally surprises me is how far out of the loop I am on restroom signals, I truly had no idea! Maybe I'm better off not knowing . . as a female working at KU I share the restrooms with no only other females, but males intentionally dressing like females and females intentionally dressing like males. I have never had a problem with any of them. Maybe ignorance is bliss after all.
daddax98 (anonymous) says…
RT where do you get this stuff? So what you are saying is that anyone who has gone to a parade, concert, competition or any other social grouping where yelling may occur is maladjusted? You want rude, loud, obnoxious behavior go to a Chiefs game wearing a Raiders or Broncos jersey
geekin_topekan (anonymous) says…
Bubbles,
he bobs no knobs!Remember?
daddax98 (anonymous) says…
Sex in a public place is a crime correct? so solicitation of such is a crime
Bubbles (anonymous) says…
The muslims got a sink to wash their feet in airports why can't men seeking men have glory hole installed in airport bathrooms?
Confrontation (anonymous) says…
I wonder if Larry has the same stylist as Rev. Ted Haggard. Maybe the same massage therapist, as well.
RedwoodCoast (anonymous) says…
Stupid humans. Still can't figure out what is human. It's sad that senator Craig can't be human outside the closet. Instead he has to publicly cover up his humanity by legislating conservatively. He needed the image farthest from the truth so that he could more easily hide the truth. And now he gets busted for being a repressed, undercover human. Republican, Democrat, KKK, we're all human. I guarantee that there are homosexuals of every race and creed. We'll see what happens in thirty years. The republicans will be the gay party and the democrats will be battling with them to see who can be the most homosexual-friendly. Well... I doubt it, but maybe they'll figure out that homosexuality is human one of these days.
kneejerkreaction (anonymous) says…
RedwoodCoast (Anonymous) says:
Well: I doubt it, but maybe they'll figure out that homosexuality is human one of these days.
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And thank goodness not 100% pervasive, otherwise there'd be none of us around.
chet_larock (anonymous) says…
"The old trick in LaGuardia/JFK/Newark back in the days when gays were still pretty much considered freaks of nature and had to be policed 24/7, the 'reciever' would stand in a shopping bag in the stall in front of the 'giver', therefore the cops who would peruse the stalls and peak underneath the door did not see two sets of feet but one and, of course a shopping bag."
--posted by Right_thinker
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I'm surprised people missed commenting on this "insider" info posted by R_T. Obviously, he "watches" different "networks" -- I don't think those networks are part of my cable plan.
chet_larock (anonymous) says…
Or maybe he just spent some time in LaGuardia/JFK/Newark back in the day.
Jaminrawk (anonymous) says…
It's funny that all of this keeps happening to the "family values" party. First you have Mark Foley (sending inappropriate sexual emails to male interns), Bob Allen (soliciting gay sex from an undercover officer), David Vitter (the D.C. madam scandal) and now Larry Craig (soliciting gay sex from a police officer). Hell, even Tom Delay and Newt Gingrich openly admit to commiting adultry. How can the Republicans ever use Monica Lewinsky against Bill Clinton again? According to their evangelical supported rules, Clinton was actually less sinful by having sex with a woman and not paying for it. Then again, we know evangelicals can't even follow their own rules, just ask staunch Bush supporter Rev. Ted Haggard.
yourworstnightmare (anonymous) says…
I'm not gay. I just like to engage in homosexual sex.
staff04 (anonymous) says…
"Craig's wife looked petrified and ashamed to be standing there next to him."
I thought she looked like she was drugged...
kneejerkreaction (anonymous) says…
Jaminrawk (Anonymous) says:
It's funny that all of this keeps happening to the "family values" party.
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C'mon Jaminrawk, it wouldn't take much noodling to rack up a quick list of weirdos and perverts in any party, organization, club, etc. To say that this "keeps happening" somewhere in particular is a bit inane or at best naive.
kawryan (anonymous) says…
He was also not gay in 1982
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RntWG...
staff04 (anonymous) says…
C'mon kneejerk, you have to admit that that side of the political spectrum has been on a tear lately, getting themselves into this kind of trouble. Sure, there are perverts and wierdos everywhere, but it is the hypocrisy that I think most people of the liberal persuasion are troubled with and not the act itself.
daddax98 (anonymous) says…
those that live in glass houses shouldn't throw turds
EXks (anonymous) says…
Have you seen the Larry Craig, Ted Haggard, Mark Foley ........"I'm NOT gay, but MY boyfriend is" t-shirts???
BigDog (anonymous) says…
Surprise, surprise, there are hypocritical, self-serving Republicans! Craig is a jerk in so many different ways.
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Hypocritical hmmmmmmmmm..... I guess it is just that Republicans don't protect their scandal makers as well.
How about Democratic Senate Leader Harry Reid, land deals, and ties to Jack Abramhoff?
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?...
How about Democratic Representative William Jefferson and bribes?
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/0...
How about TN Democratic Senator John Ford and bribery ..... uncle of former Rep. Harold Ford Jr.?
http://news.bostonherald.com/national...
How about Democratic Representative Barney Frank and male prostitute?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/...
How about Democratic (Klan Leader) Senator Robert Byrd?
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/i...
How about Democratic Representative John Murtha and bribery?
http://www.opinionjournal.com/diary/?...
This doesn't even include the likes of Ted Kennedy, Bill and Hillary Clinton.
** The big difference is most of the Democratic politicians are still in office.
ndmoderate (anonymous) says…
So BigDog, since there's a list of Democrats that have also been busted, that makes it OK?
Confrontation (anonymous) says…
Maybe his wife is finally becoming aware that her marriage had the sole purpose of covering up the allegations that Larry was single and gay. Now, he's married and gay. She'd be better off divorcing him and taking some cash. He acknowledged his own guilt in this case, so she should get some major bucks.
BigDog (anonymous) says…
No ndmoderate it is not okay for either party or any party....... was showing how those who will now look to go after Senator Craig have been willing to look the other way on those in their own party ..... and all of those listed have committed worse crimes.
If we want to clean up Washington ...... those within ones own party cannot be defended for committing crimes. Where is the outrage about Representative William Jefferson having $90,000 in bribe money in his freezer? Senator Craig should have to face an ethics review and possible removal along with whatever consequences go along with the crime.
consumer1 (anonymous) says…
Me thinks that all of this may be a good thing. Maybe it will lead to the early demise of this outrageous prison called "Politiacal correctness". When it becomes so absurd, that tapping your toe while siting on the can means " I wanna take a lap around your chocolate speedway". It has to come to a halt. Gee then maybe we can actually go back to being able to say, Gee Barney/Betty that is a nice hair style on you, without fear of being
1 accused of sexual harrassment
2 Being arrested or fired from a job
3 Being accused of being "insensitive"
I for one am glad to see this reach the level of absurdity ! The quicker the better.
Go for it senator Richard Smoker!! Oh, ot to imply that there is anything at all wrong with smoking a sausage in the mens room.
consumer1 (anonymous) says…
Correction.
Not to impy there is anything wrong with smoking a sausage in the men's room.
gogoplata (anonymous) says…
It is silly to lump all republicans into the same group.
It sounds like you are saying that if this man was a hypocrite, all republicans are hypocrites.
I guess white men can't jump, all blacks like fried chicken and watermelon, and all native americans are alcoholics.
In collegiate sports it goes like this. KState fans are all sore losers and have an inferiority complex towards KU. KU fans are all snobs. And all Mizzou fans are just plain aholes.
If this man is guilty of being a hypocrite or guilty of breaking the law, he is guilty as an individual not because he is a republican.
kneejerkreaction (anonymous) says…
logicsound04 (Anonymous) says:
You're missing the point, kneejerk. What "keeps happening" to the Republicans is that they keep getting egg (or something) on their faces when it comes out that their personal lifestyle choices contradict their legislative initiatives.
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Nope logic, it seems YOU are the one missing the point. Dems are no better than Repubs.
- James McGreevey - Democrat - New Jersey Governor . Admitted to having a gay affair. Resigned.
- Jesse Jackson - Democrat - Democratic candidate for President. Admitted to having an extramarital affair and fathering a illegitimate child.
- Gary Condit - Democrat - US Democratic Congressman from California. Condit had an affair with an intern. Condit, covered up the affair and lied to police. Her remains were discovered in a Washington DC park.
- Gerry Eastman Studds - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Massachusetts from 1973 to 1997. The first openly gay member of Congress. Censured by the House of Representatives for having sexual relations with a teenage House page.
- And let's not forget Billy BJ, the grandaddy of the lying, hypocritical, perjurious lot.
.....and there's plenty more.....
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All I'm saying logic is it's absurd to claim that Republicans are a worse lot than Democrats. That's all. Or, are you perhaps saying that Democrats are such a base group that their actions don't contradict any of their values?
ndmoderate (anonymous) says…
Kneejerk,
Of all those you named, how many of them voted for or sponsored legislation that can be considered anti-gay? For instance, Bill Clinton signed the Defense of Marriage Act. Any others?
kneejerkreaction (anonymous) says…
ndmoderate, your question isn't pertinent to my point.
EXks (anonymous) says…
The point is that the political whores who run for office on this family values CRAP are a bunch of low life hypocrites and you self loathing right wingers are finally getting a good dose of your own karma.
kneejerkreaction (anonymous) says…
EXks (Anonymous) says:
The point is that the political whores who run for office on this family values CRAP are a bunch of low life hypocrites and you self loathing right wingers are finally getting a good dose of your own karma.
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What's wrong with you people? This statement is just plain stupid, but a lot of you on here seem to think that democrats/left wingers somehow have the market cornored on morals. Amazing.
Ceallach (anonymous) says…
BigDog, you did me wrong! That was not what I was trying to convey. I finished that paragraph by saying, "But there are such people in every walk of life."
As for hypocrisy, there's plenty of that on all sides as well. Lawrence has its share of liberal Democrats, Independents and even Libertarians that cry out for legislation and policies to support homosexual issues, while they continue telling crude jokes and/or make disgusting comments about homosexuals in general . . . which of course would never apply to the members of the gay and lesbian community that they know personally and/or professionally. Just the "others".
kneejerkreaction (anonymous) says…
logrithmic says, And what's that I heard - the ghost of Jerry Falwall flatulating in the dark?
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Either that or the hot air emanating from your last posssssttttt. Kind of a small-minded comment you made there logrithmic, huh?
There are currently two Dem. congressmen sitting in the pokey for various social misconducts, unless they've been released. I'd give you their names, but I don't think it would change your mindless arguments one bit. Have at it Nancy boys.
kneejerkreaction (anonymous) says…
scenebooster (Anonymous) says:
No. The Dems have a lot of problems/hypocrites as well. The difference, which you seem to ignore, is that it is the Republicans that hold the self-proclaimed mantle of "family values/moral majority":that's called hypocrisy, friend, and there seems to be a lot of it coming from your side of the aisle.
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So, it's ok for Democrats to do whatever because they're a bunch of worthless libertines that profess no values? That's horse dung, and there is (as usual) a lot of it coming from your side of the aisle.
Godot (anonymous) says…
I'm not defending the guy, but, Logrithmic, you should at least get your facts straight; he plead guilty to disorderly conduct, not lewd behavior.
Considering that this was at a Minneapolis airport, it is entirely possible his hand gestures were sign language for, "Can you direct me to the nearest foot bath?"
kneejerkreaction (anonymous) says…
No one, Repub. or Dem should be calling the pot black. It's the same feeling I get everytime I see Ted Kennedy, the murderer, reviewing the conduct of anyone. OH, but that's old news, right?
kneejerkreaction (anonymous) says…
logrithmic (Anonymous) says:
Nancy boys? What's that mean?
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Requires an imagination to understand.
staff04 (anonymous) says…
"There are currently two Dem. congressmen sitting in the pokey for various social misconducts..."
Well, if you want to start counting...that would just be funny.
kneejerkreaction (anonymous) says…
staff04 (Anonymous) says:
"There are currently two Dem. congressmen sitting in the pokey for various social misconducts:"
Well, if you want to start counting:that would just be funny.
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True, we'd all be laughing, left and right. My point precisely.
none2 (anonymous) says…
People, give the guy a break...
Perhaps this isn't a sexual preference/orientation issue. Perhaps it is just a foot fetish of his for which gender plays no role. Or perhaps he thinks he was Fred Astaire in a prior life, and feels the need to tap dance when he thinks he is alone. Or perhaps he got some toilet paper stuck on his heal, and was frantically trying to dislodge it without touching it. Nothing could ruin a person's reputation than walking out of a bathroom with a stream of toilet paper in tow (no pun intended).
Ceallach (anonymous) says…
I'm thinking he would, log. Have they discovered anything the Marq didn't condone?
daddax98 (anonymous) says…
"Could this be why the Fairness Doctrine and the lefts frantic efforts to shut down talk radio is in full swing?"
The sky is falling run for your lives!
"Can you imagine if the teacher had been and African-American woman? The ACLU would be after the minor for rape"
when has the ACLU ever prosecuted anyone? Stop talking out of your Craig hole
BigDog (anonymous) says…
Ceallach (Anonymous) says:
BigDog, you did me wrong! That was not what I was trying to convey. I finished that paragraph by saying, "But there are such people in every walk of life."
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Sorry Ceallach if you feel I did you wrong with my statement. And my statement wasn't necessarily directed at you.
My point was that here are some Democrats going after Senator Craig ..... and I am sure they will be looking for him to resign. At the same time the Democratic party has leaders (Murtha, Reid, Kennedy) and other members (William Jefferson) who have done far worse and there is no outcry on their part. Demand reivews and whatever consequences for any politician regardless of party.
But lets not conduct witch hunts because of party or condone bad behavior/crimes because of party.
yourworstnightmare (anonymous) says…
Come on, the airport? The least LC could have done was to solicit gay sex in highway rest areas, like other good republicans.
He did lay off the meth though, so he has one up on the Right Reverend Haggard.
Just because I suck a little d!($ doesn't make me gay.
kneejerkreaction (anonymous) says…
scenebooster (Anonymous) says:
If that's what you take away from my post, then you are even more dim than I have suspected.
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I don't really read your posts thoroughly. You don't make much sense.
cheeseburger (anonymous) says…
daddax98 (Anonymous) says:
Sex in a public place is a crime correct? so solicitation of such is a crime
If that's the case, then there's a heck of a lot of 'crime' going on at bars and taverns all across the country every night of the week!
ndmoderate (anonymous) says…
Here comes the Scarborough bashing from the right....
Wait for it...
kneejerkreaction (anonymous) says…
scenebooster (Anonymous) says:
"I don't really read your posts thoroughly."
Then howsabout you refrain from posting half-baked pseudo retorts?
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Calm down Francis. Just trying to get your goat. You're real smart. There.
kneejerkreaction (anonymous) says…
brilliant
BABBOY (anonymous) says…
I can only draw three conclusions about the numerious posts by right-thinker and Colonol-Mustard.
1. They are blindly conservative and completely unobjective;
2. From the number of posts they make, they are unemployed or if employed
they are ignoring their job responsibilities;
3. They are way too bothered by this Senator being caught in the bathroom
making homosexual advances.
The real problem with this Country is that crap like this is the biggest news of the day. The real issue should be whether or not he is a good senator representing the issues of his State. Of course, if the voters of his state do not like him hitting on other men in the bathroom and then trying to deny the obvious or being embarassed about being gay, then they know how to handle that issue.
kneejerkreaction (anonymous) says…
logrithmic (Anonymous) says:
I guess family value types will have to face the question at any RepubLICKlan meetings or conventions: Is the man I'm sitting next to "closeted?"
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You just can't get around this tired point can you moron? You've been spewing the same nonsensical diarrhea all day long. Let's see if you get this excited the next Democrat that sticks his foot into some scandal, well, of course not because you're a one track guy, right?
gr (anonymous) says…
Back to toe tapping....
I saw someone impatient who was tapping their toe. Was that a crime? or a solicitation? Should I take offense?
If someone asks someone out for a date (in public), is that wrong?
If someone reaches under the stall and asks for toilet paper, should I report it to a police officer?
I was sitting at the table and accidently hit someone's foot. Am I a bad person? Should I turn myself in?
kneejerkreaction (anonymous) says…
Oh, guess I didn't read every single post. Do you work?
EXks (anonymous) says…
right_thumper, kneejerk & col_a
If they had to put your brain in a chicken, it would run straight to the
butcher.
kneejerkreaction (anonymous) says…
gr (Anonymous) says:
If someone reaches under the stall and asks for toilet paper, should I report it to a police officer?
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You must be female. As I understand it, requesting toilet paper under the women's stall is common practice. Try it in the men's room and (unless you're a US Senator) you'll likely be told where to go to get your own.
kneejerkreaction (anonymous) says…
scene., you really take this seriously, don't you?
-get a life alert-
kneejerkreaction (anonymous) says…
right_thinker (Anonymous) says:
Word for word, the name-calling, hatred, homophobia and bigotry coming from the left on this forum is light years ahead of the right.
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Isn't that just the ironic truth, RT? You can't argue with a feminist without being called a chauvenist, you can't argue with a pro-lifer without being called a murder and you can't argue with a gay person without being called "homophobic" (which actually means 'scared of people", but that's just another word that the homosexual community has adopted. Even "gay" used to mean "happy", now they've ruined it.).
Jaminrawk (anonymous) says…
Wow, the right-wingers on this thread are well versed in Bill O'Reilly-caliber spin. People like Kneejerk don't quite understand the irony that makes this situation interesting. Lately, members of the Republican party, a party that claims to promote "family values" while eagerly pointing to the "immorality" of the Demorcrats, seem to be incapable of "practicing what they preach". They vote down gay marraige but troll public bathrooms for sex from men, which is illegal, and according to their own moral ramblings, against everything they and their party stand for. No one said Dems are better people, they just don't seem to be as hypocritical lately. Let Ann Coulter defend these acts. She feels it neccessary to call Edwards a "faggot" when it seems her own party members seem to fit the description more accurately.
kneejerkreaction (anonymous) says…
Craig's a greaseball. Now tell me what could that possibly have to do with the Republican party? He should resign and cross over, Democrats seem to have no problem with these guys.
kneejerkreaction (anonymous) says…
logrithmic (Anonymous) says:
"Sens. John McCain of Arizona and Norm Coleman of Minnesota and Rep. Pete Hoekstra of Michigan all said Craig should give up his seat...."
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He already did, that's when they arrested him.
Jaminrawk (anonymous) says…
Are you sure Craig was arrested by real cops or the "Hot Cops dance troupe" from the show Arrested Development? I bet he would prefer the latter.
kmat (anonymous) says…
Stop the b.s. fighting guys. Good lord!
There are just a few basic things to this story that everyone should understand and then it's a closed case.
Craig solicited sex in a public bathroom. If anyone had taken a moment to look some stuff up on the real subject, they would have learned that there is a common tap done in "known" public restrooms that are frequented by gay prostitutes. Craig didn't just go in and tap his feet while taking a dump. If the person in the other stall returns this known tap, then the transaction can begin. The police were doing this sting operation because of the prostitution that was happening at the airport and people had been complaining about it. Considering that Craig would have probably flown NW (hub is Minneapolis) when going home, he was quite aware of the airport and the gay prostitution that happened in that one specific mens bathroom there. He was probably getting a hummer every time he had a lay over (ha ha) at that airport.
He plead guilty to lesser charges, in hopes no one would find out about the incident.
He is a hypocrit because he lead the impeachment b.s. against Clinton and is a known family values republican.
I don't give a rats ass who anyone does, as long as they are a consenting adult. What I care about is a hypocrital elected leader that preaches family values, but lives a secret life that is just the opposite of what he supposedly stands for.
Take the republican, democrat crap out of this and look at the facts. This guy is a closeted creep that has broken the law and is now proven to be a hypocrit. Why anyone would defend him and want him to remain in office is beyond me.
Wouldn't it have just been easier to come out of the closet and have a normal date instead of trying to get a gay prostitute to blow you in a nasty airport bathroom?
kneejerkreaction (anonymous) says…
Profile for scenebooster
scenebooster is an anonymous user.
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Now, what's your point about a lot of postings from me....whew?!
kneejerkreaction (anonymous) says…
Dude, that's about five or so postings a DAY every day.....
Jaminrawk (anonymous) says…
And kneejerk has officially lost the debate ...
Why don't you check his spelling too ...
Jaminrawk (anonymous) says…
I think the point is, this party (the Republican Party) needs to quit positioning itself as the moral, family values, Christian party.
kneejerkreaction (anonymous) says…
Hey Scumbooster, check it out.....and there's more you cauliflower brain, but I'm not going to use up more postings by listing them.....
William Jefferson Clinton- Impeached by the House of Representatives over allegations of perjury and obstruction of justice, but acquitted by the Senate. Scandals include Whitewater - Travelgate Gennifer Flowersgate - Filegate - Vince Fostergate - Whitewater Billing Recordsgate - Paula Jonesgate- Lincoln Bedroomgate - Donations from Convicted Drug and Weapons Dealersgate - Lippogate - Chinagate - The Lewinsky Affair - Perjury and Jobs for Lewinskygate - Kathleen Willeygate - Web Hubbell Prison Phone Callgate - Selling Military Technology to the Chinesegate - Jaunita Broaddrick Gate - Lootergate - Pardongate
Edward Moore Kennedy - Democrat - U. S. Senator from Massachusetts. Pleaded guilty to leaving the scene of an accident, after his car plunged off a bridge on Chappaquiddick Island killing passenger Mary Jo Kopechne.
Barney Frank - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Massachusetts from 1981 to present. Admitted to having paid Stephen L. Gobie, a male prostitute, for sex and subsequently hiring Gobie as his personal assistant. Gobie used the congressman's Washington apartment for prostitution. A move to expel Frank from the House of Representatives failed and a motion to censure him failed.
DNC - The Federal Election Commission imposed $719,000 in fines against participants in the 1996 Democratic Party fundraising scandals involving contributions from China, Korea and other foreign sources. The Federal Election Commission said it decided to drop cases against contributors of more than $3 million in illegal DNC contributions because the respondents left the country or the corporations are defunct.
Sandy Berger - Democrat - National Security Advisor during the Clinton Administration. Berger became the focus of a criminal investigation after removing highly classified terrorism documents and handwritten notes from the National Archives during preparations for the Sept. 11 commission hearings.
daddax98 (anonymous) says…
yeah but Clinton got a BJ, so there
Gootsie (anonymous) says…
logrithmic, we get it already. Stop with the RepubLICKlan, 'K? It was clever the first two times. The other 500 are not.
Godot (anonymous) says…
Here is a story which is much more newsworthy than the sordid sexual aspirations of a senator. It outlines actions which are much more criminal and deleterious to the common good. My guess is it will get little or no play in the AP.
Soros-linked group hit with huge fine
By: Kenneth P. Vogel
Aug 29, 2007 02:19 PM EST
Updated: August 29, 2007 02:17 PM EST
The Federal Election Commission has fined one of the last cycle's biggest liberal political action committees $775,000 for using unregulated soft money to boost John Kerry and other Democratic candidates during the 2004 elections.
America Coming Together (ACT) raised $137 million for its get-out-the-vote effort in 2004, but the FEC found most of that cash came through contributions that violated federal limits.
The group's big donors included George Soros, Progressive Corp. chairman Peter Lewis and the Service Employees International Union.
The settlement, which the FEC approved unanimously, is the third largest enforcement penalty in the commission's 33-year history.
go here for the rest of the story: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/...
BigDog (anonymous) says…
That goes nicely with one of Hillary's largest fundraisers, who just happens to be wanted for grand theft.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,2...
Godot (anonymous) says…
Scenebooster, I think you are saying that the reason there are more sex scandals reported about Republicans than Democrats is because the media don't report Democrats' sexual antics. Why? If you are a Democrat, such behavior is a mere peccadillo, perhaps even "situation normal." It is certainly forgiveable.
kneejerkreaction (anonymous) says…
scenebooster (Anonymous) says:
Of all five instances you mention, exactly one involved sex. Way to go!
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Nothing that a little cut and past can't take care of. More democrat sex scandals, now will you shut your pie hole scenebooster? Dems are no better than Repubs. Dems play the same family values BS as the Repubs do...they're no better, they're no worse.
Gerry Eastman Studds - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Massachusetts from 1973 to 1997. The first openly gay member of Congress. Censured by the House of Representatives for having sexual relations with a teenage House page.
Frederick Richmond - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New York from 1975 to 1982. Arrested in Washington, D.C., in 1978 for soliciting sex from a minor and from an undercover police officer - pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor. Also - charged with tax evasion, marijuana possession, and improper payments to a federal employee - pleaded guilty.
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Neil Goldschmidt - Democrat - Oregon governor. Admitted to having an illegal sexual relationship with a 14-year-old teenager while he was serving as Mayor of Portland.
Marion Barry - Democrat - mayor of Washington, D.C., from 1979 to 1991 and again from 1995 to 1999. Convicted of cocaine possession after being caught on videotape smoking crack cocaine. Sentenced to six months in prison.
Lee Alexander - Democrat - Mayor of Syracuse, N.Y. from 1970 to 1985. Was indicted over a $1.5 million kickback scandal. Pleaded guilty to racketeering and tax evasion charges. Served six years in prison.
David Giles - Democrat - candidate for U.S. Representative from Washington in 1986 and 1990. Convicted in June 2000 of child rape.
Lena Swanson - Democrat - Member of Washington State Senate in 1997. Pleaded guilty to charges of soliciting unlawful payments from veterans and former prisoners of war.
Abraham J. Hirschfeld - Democrat - candidate in Democratic primary for U.S. Senator from New York in 1974 and 1976. Offered Paula Jones $1 million to drop her sexual harassment lawsuit against President Bill Clinton. Convicted in 2000 of trying to hire a hit man to kill his business partner.
Allan Turner Howe - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Utah from 1975 to 1977. Arrested for soliciting a policewoman posing as a prostitute..
Jerry Springer - Democrat - Resigned from Cincinnati City Council in 1974 after admitting to paying a prostitute with a personal check, which was found in a police raid on a massage parlor.
kneejerkreaction (anonymous) says…
Logrythmic and scene....this was my personal favorite from your party of do-gooders....David Giles - Democrat - candidate for U.S. Representative from Washington in 1986 and 1990. Convicted in June 2000 of child rape.
kneejerkreaction (anonymous) says…
logrithmic (Anonymous) says:
Scene,
Could you continue the list. You've posted through H. I think there should be a record of these scandals on the Journal World so that we can go to it if necessary.
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And, log. being the impartial bleeding heart that you are, you'll surely want to see the full list of of democrat sex scandals? There are lots more than I posted....lots....
deec (anonymous) says…
Y'all are just invincibly ignorant. If you are going to build a career on "family values" and such nonsense, then you better keep Mr. Happy safely parked in your pants. Glass houses. Logs in eyes. That sort of thing.
Agnostick (anonymous) says…
Summers_Eve [tellin' ya folks, I'm exercising serious restraint here, and you **know** what I'm talkin' 'bout, LOL!] writes:
"Maybe it would be 'cleaner' if Republicans did just drop the wholesome, pure living line and then be more positioned like President Clinton to engage in perversion of the highest degree, then noone is offended, shocked or otherwise pointing fingers, right?"
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Maybe not "cleaner"... but it'd be a helluva lot more "honest," when you get right down to it.
Plus, then we can forget about all this stuff and focus on **REAL** issues, like energy, reducing poverty, reducing the number of abortions, reducing the teen pregnancy rate, increase the graduation rate in our schools, pay *everyone* a little bit better, tax *everyone* a little bit less, strengthen our borders... there's an enormous number of real issues that get pushed to the back burner when we have to cry and catterwall about:
1) personal failings, especially those of a sexual nature
2) stuff that happened 20 years ago, on the other side, so we can distract the harsh light off the guy on *our* side who got busted *today*.
Agnostick
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dorothyhr (Dorothy Hoyt-Reed) says…
On NPR he said that the harrassment of an Idaho newpaper was behind his overreaction in the bathroom. I thought Republicans believed in taking responsibility, not blaming others. They interviewed a reporter from the paper, and he said his paper actually stayed away from publishing stories about his rumored homosexuality, because they didn't have good enough sources, unlike other papers that ripped him. This guy is a loser.
kneejerkreaction (anonymous) says…
Agnostick (Anonymous) says:
2) stuff that happened 20 years ago, on the other side, so we can distract the harsh light off the guy on *our* side who got busted *today*.
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Yesterday a dem. today a R tomorrow a D and on and on. Saying that Rep. are worse because of their Family Values moniker is d.u.p.i.d. Dems stump on family values as much as Rep. Obama's wife brags about how she manages her kids so well every time she gets a MIC in her hand.
kneejerkreaction (anonymous) says…
...and no one is arguing that Craig is anything but a scumball...
tmkatt (Tom Miller) says…
ya'll are completely mis-informed...why, in his capacity as a staunch moralist, he just suspected there was something amiss in that mens room, so he just conducted his own li'l "sting" operation, so's to ferret out that potential evil-doer in the next stall...why, he was defending home, hearth, and moral decency for us ALL!!! ararargh.
Godot (anonymous) says…
well, at least deec has boiled it down to the main issue; the real crime Craig committed is not a crime at all, but a human failing: hypocrisy. Had he been out as a gay man, and, preferably a gay Democrat, this behavior would not have been newsworthy; it absolutely would not have been condemned.
Godot (anonymous) says…
Looks like someone is obsessed with Republicans' sexual activities.
Godot (anonymous) says…
Where is the statue that outlaws hypocrisy, again?
Agnostick (anonymous) says…
[satire]
Back in the old days you could call Sears and order a refrigerator on the phone. I had a teacher living up the street and it was the biggest thrill in the world to just call and order a refrigerator and watch Sears deliver it to an unsuspecting teacher and his wife, and far stranger things than that. But we always picked out adults that we just thought were odd or weird, and it would be fun to make fun of them, and I don't think kids today are any different:
But you know as well as I do that some folks make fun of gay people. They make fun of the way they talk; they make fun of the way some of them walk and so forth. Who knows what the word around town about fellow Craig was. Who knows? We all know that some folks gay bash. Some people do a lot of stuff. They don't have the maturity to understand this kind of stuff:
I tell you, folks, you've got this misguided police officer out there; you probably have a bunch of officers laughing and making fun of Craig and the way he acts in the bathroom, and he's gay and so forth, so they egg him on and so forth:.
These undercover police officers... they have a hard life. They sometimes have to spend months or even years, maybe going into "deep cover" to pretend to be someone they're not. Other times, they may be plagued by long stretches of boredom, with nobody to talk to except maybe the dispatcher. What if this officer was just... well... bored? Maybe he and his dispatcher thought, "Well, let's just have a little fun here. This guy in the bathroom *looks* gay... he's a prominent legislator. The country needs a good scandal--why don't we give it to 'em? I'll just step up to the urinal, right next to him, turn a little in his direction when I break out the ol' block & tackle... just tempt him, just as a joke, a harmless prank...
I mean... what if this is all just some police officer prank gone awry?
[/satire]
--Ag
matahari (anonymous) says…
everyones' prejudiced against prejudism and everyones' hypocritical about hypocrites
prejudiced *A preconceived preference or idea*
hypocritical *In an act of hypocrisy the aim is to condemn another person or people, not to condemn an act*
most all of us are both ( I am prejudiced against prejudism, and a hypocrit about being hypocritical)
yourworstnightmare (anonymous) says…
Could it be that those who protest the loudest against a behavior might feel those tendencies in themselves? Overcompensation? I'm not saying all homophobes are homosexuals, but it would be interesting to determine the proportion of homosexuals among homophobes and among the general population. My hypothesis is that it would be higher in the former.
yourworstnightmare (anonymous) says…
Maybe it is not hypocrisy, but fear. Maybe folks like Craig, Haggard, et al. hope that by stridently attacking homosexuality that that will somehow cleanse them of their own homosexual tendencies.
The heart wants what it wants, however, and eventually wins out.
OldEnuf2BYurDad (anonymous) says…
Hmmm. He says he didn't do anything wrong, yet he apologizes for the shame he has brought to the people of Idaho? "I didn't do it, but I'm really sorry for what I've done"?
Tychoman (anonymous) says…
No one needs *cleansing* of homosexual tendencies.
dorothyhr (Dorothy Hoyt-Reed) says…
And Republicans aren't obssesed with Democrats sex lifes? Get real.
none2 (anonymous) says…
Maybe there was just a misunderstanding. The cop thought he was trying to buy a stud, but he was trying to say buy a spud. After all, Senator Craig represents the potato state.
Godot (anonymous) says…
What this all boils down to is that if one is gay and hopes to be treated equally and fairly in the USA, one must be a Democrat
My guess is there are just as many closet conservatives as there are closet gays in both parties. Ones's sexual preference should not be an issue; however, one's judgment is of utmost importance.
Godot (anonymous) says…
I am waiting to see the post of the statute that makes hypocrisy illegal. Anyone?
Godot (anonymous) says…
If being an hypocrite is not illegal, but is such an ethical offense that requires one to resign his position in public office, I say, resoundingly, "Yes."
Let everyone in public office who has been shown to be an hypocrite immediately resign. But, please, give everyone else a days' warning so we can all take cover. The vacuum created by the rush of people from the halls of government may be enough to cause a global climate crisis.
deec (anonymous) says…
Of course Bill's sexual indiscretion and subsequent perjury certainly did excite the right. But I guess that's different...
Godot (anonymous) says…
Evidence of, or even the suspicion of, hypocrisy, is reason to not vote for a person running for office.
Our system will work; let the constituents throw the bum out.
Agnostick (anonymous) says…
right_thinker (Anonymous) says:
"Press driven again. Sordid, creepy storires such as McGreevey lasted in the news for mere hours it seemedand it was a far cheesier than this story. The liberal media makes the decision who gets what treatment.
"You'd think Senator Craig had dropped a dirty bomb and killed a few thousand people.
"I'm still amazed at how enthralled all of a sudden the left is with an allegedly gay man.
"Wutev. The left is sickening."
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Said the man who praises and enables violent child molestors like David Koresh...
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2007/aug...
Agnostick
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http://www.americanplan.org
Godot (anonymous) says…
The guy has been in the senate for over 20 years
All that needs to be said is, "term limits."
webmocker (anonymous) says…
Godot:
No one said hypocrisy is a crime.
Craig was arrested on June 11 for disorderly conduct.
"The senator signed and dated his guilty plea to a charge of disorderly conduct on Aug. 1, and court papers indicate it was submitted by mail and filed a week later."
He had nearly two months to consider his options and consult a lawyer.
It is reasonable that people find his later claim of innocence to be absurd and annoying. It is also reasonable that people accept his guilty plea at face value, and thus assume that he was interested in enjoying a homosexual encounter, and are further annoyed by the hypocrisy inherent in his support of legislation that makes life more difficult for gays and lesbians.
EXks (anonymous) says…
Ok, Larry.....say bye, bye to all your right-wing pals.....your done!!!!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20502875/...
http://idahostatesman.com/localnews/s...
yourworstnightmare (anonymous) says…
"No one needs *cleansing* of homosexual tendencies."
I agree, but these right-wing anti-gay nut jobs do not.
Jaminrawk (anonymous) says…
"The senator signed and dated his guilty plea"
If he didn't do anything wrong, why would he sign this? Aren't Republicans at least worried that one of their senators signs things without thinking it through? Probably not the kind of trait I would want from one of my senators. That and soliciting police officers for gay sex in an airport bathroom.
xbted (anonymous) says…
Of course Craig didn't intend to solicit sex in the men's bathroom at the Minneapolis airport; he was actually confused about where he was and had been intending to solicit sex in the Congressional Page locker room.
Agnostick (anonymous) says…
Somebody mentioned Ted Haggard earlier...
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn...
Agnostick
agnostick@excite.com
http://www.uscentrist.org
http://www.americanplan.org
cheeseburger (anonymous) says…
An if-then for you to consider:
If gay is OK, then why is a gay attempting to attract a mate considered lewd and illegal? Seems to me that either gay is OK and they should be allowed to attract a mate, OR gay isn't OK, and all the things going on around here (registries, unions, etc.) are not OK. Does anyone else see the inconsistencies here? I'm not stating an opinion here, just raising a question (and attempting to bring the discussion back to the original topic.)
Agnostick (anonymous) says…
cheeseburger:
1) "Attract a mate?" He's already married; now, if you mean, "attract a *PLAY*mate," like, for he and his wife to share... well, wouldn't there be more discreet ways of doing that?
2) http://www.thatsweird.net/picture29.s... "Solicitation" is "solicitation"... gay, straight, bi, "tranny," whatever.
I refer you, then, to my post at 4:29pm yesterday. I stand by that.
--Ag
heysoos (anonymous) says…
cheeseburger, since you obviously got to the game late, I'll spell it out for you.
Gay is OK.
Any public attempt to engage in sexual activity is illegal.
Gay is OK.
Being gay, while spending much of your legislative time supporting discriminatory laws and creating a different atmosphere for your fellow homosexuals than straight people enjoy, is not.
"Does anyone else see the inconsistencies here?"
No, we do not.
chet_larock (anonymous) says…
"But my 44 yr old Senior Vice President of a division wife who is probably smarter than you and me together and makes more than probably six valued LJW neighbors combined"
Thank you for explaining why you have so much time to post on here. Now be a good house-husband and get your chores done so you have time to prepare a nice meal for when the breadwinner gets home.
cheeseburger (anonymous) says…
ag & hey -
I agree with your points, although heysoos, I could live without your hateful tone. I admit I didn't do a very good job of trying to explain my question. For the benefit of heysoos, I'll withdraw the question.
Tychoman (anonymous) says…
cheeseburger, there's no "hateful tone" in heysoos's post.
Oracle_of_Rhode (anonymous) says…
Being a conservative republican is just a sexual fetish like being into amputee midget porn.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/200...
Godot (anonymous) says…
I was married to a Democrat once. It was hell. Everything I had ever said or done was brought up again and again in every single coversation about what was wrong with me. Reminds me of this thread.
JSpizias (anonymous) says…
Excerpts from Volokh.com
http://volokh.com/archives/archive_20...
Tuesday, August 28, 2007
[Dale Carpenter, August 28, 2007 at 5:53pm]
What was Craig's crime?
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From the arrest report, here's what Craig allegedly did: (1) put a duffel bag at the front of his stall; (2) peered through a crack into an adjoining stall; (3) tapped his foot; (4) moved his shoe over until it touched an officer's; and (5) ran his fingers along the underside of the stall divider. That's it.
Given the long history of police fabrication of evidence and entrapment of gay men in these sting operations, there should be no presumption that the officer's version of events is correct. But assuming for the sake of argument that Craig did everything the officer alleged, how was it the basis for a criminal charge that could get him a $1,000 fine and/or ten days in jail?
Disorderly conduct is a notoriously nebulous crime, allowing police wide discretion in making arrests and charges for conduct or speech that is little more than bothersome to police or to others. The "disorderly conduct" statute to which Craig pleaded guilty provides that one who knowingly "[e]ngages in offensive, obscene, abusive, boisterous, or noisy conduct or in offensive, obscene, or abusive language tending reasonably to arouse alarm, anger, or resentment in others" is guilty of the misdemeanor of disorderly conduct. ...
More specific criminal charges were not advanced. ::
Craig's conduct was not obscene, abusive, boisterous, or noisy. The officer might have considered Craig's actions "offensive . . . conduct tending reasonably to arouse alarm, anger, or resentment in others." But if that's so, it seems a pretty thin basis for charging him. ::.A continuation of the unwelcome behavior might then have been enough to charge him with something, but again, that didn't happen. In fact, the officer tapped his own foot in response, indicating the interest was mutual.
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What really seems to have happened is that the airport police had received complaints about sexual activity and were acting over-zealously to deter it, regardless of the niceties of state criminal law. ::..
update: Professor Ted Sampsell-Jones (William Mitchell), who has far more knowledge than I of Minnesota criminal law, writes:
Minn. Stat. 617.23, the indecent exposure statute, covers lewd or lascivious conduct in a public place. Sex and masturbation count as lewd and lascivious acts. There is, however, some Minnesota case law suggesting that public restrooms aren't "public places" once you close the door to your stall. State v. Bryant, 177 N.W.2d 800, 803-04 (Minn. 1970).
Even if the completed act would be a crime, it's doubtful that merely asking for sex in the restroom would be a crime::::.
Tychoman (anonymous) says…
Clinton would have a valid point, Arminius. Nice try, you partisan fink.
chet_larock (anonymous) says…
Here's a question - Where was the Republican outrage when Vitter admitted to seeing that prostitute? Is it because Vitter's indiscretions had to do with heterosexual sex, while Craig's alleged indiscretion was homosexual in nature? Is the backlash towards Craig an indication of the Republican's true feelings toward homosexuals - that they should be ashamed of themselves and their lifestyle, as they seemed to give Vitter a pass?
Hoots (anonymous) says…
I have to laugh when people here act like one party is any better than the other. Republicans have made plenty of messes then the Dems act like they're going to come in and make things better only to end up with an 18% approval rating which is the worst rating in recorded history. I voted for Boyda because I was so sick of Ryan and she is worthless as well. She has tried to put more pork in legislation than an other on the hill. CNN nailed her on that. These people we send to D.C. just don't seem to get it or care one bit about the people who voted for them. The whole thing is a mess people. If you think the red or blue banner makes a difference you are fooling yourselves. We need a third party and who know if that's enough to change this special interest driven downward spiral.
Kontum1972 (anonymous) says…
hmmmm....nothing like sex in a restroom...lol...the aroma of urine, flatus and deodorant pucks to give it real depth....LoL.
Gay has nothing to do with it....its the "decision-making process" that is scary....well if he is removed...he will have plenty of time to hover around as many mens rooms as he see's fit..mb he will write a book....boy the Daily Show is gonna have a field day with this one when they come back from break...
Bubbles (anonymous) says…
Guys that want to do this to one another are protected by women that are tired of doing it to men. This is the type of male behavior that has been degraded by women for years.
Let's give the old koot a break here in his quest to seek out that male behavior that is so disgusting to so many women.
Maybe he can reignite his political career in the liberal party.
Godot (anonymous) says…
"We need a third party and who know if that's enough to change this special interest driven downward spiral."
The solution is to dismember the Federal government and give the states back their power. This government has reached the point of perpetual growth, with one criminal gang fighting another criminal gang for control.
Katara (anonymous) says…
I cannot believe that one single person did not grab this opportunity for a good potshot @ R_T! He generously gave this to you!
You all are losing your touch.
right_thinker wrote: "Not a bad gig, and I love to cook. And she loves to f:::."
Too bad it isn't with you, R_T.
Come ON people!
Stain (anonymous) says…
The Publicans threw Craig to the wolves - two months after he was arrested - to take the spotlight off the Gonzales resignation. Allegations about his homosexual escapades have been swirling for over 25 years. Why now? Two months after the arrest? The timing was too perfect. The GOP turned on him too quickly, as if they all had gotten the memo. He was an easy sacrifice; it isn't as if Idaho is going to replace him with a Democrat.
Stain (anonymous) says…
right_thinker:
It's the happy tone in the voice, like they're talking about 50 miners being found alive. Slant.
Most people think putting an end to hypocrisy is a good thing. I would have to agree. Closet gays who preach against gays and vote against their rights steppin down - a good thing.