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Domestic registry gets nod from AG

New commission will consider issue

April 7, 2007

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Domestic Partnership Registry proposal clears a legal hurdle on Friday

Kansas Attorney General Paul Morrison today released a legal opinion saying a proposed Domestic Partnership Registry program is not in conflict with the Kansas Constitution. Enlarge video

The Kansas Constitution is not standing in the way of Lawrence becoming the first city in the state to create a domestic partnership registry that would provide some legal recognition to gay couples.

Kansas Attorney General Paul Morrison released a legal opinion Friday that said a domestic partnership registry would not violate a constitutional amendment that bans same-sex marriage.

"We're now eager for the city to create a registry," said Maggie Childs, president of the Lawrence chapter of the Kansas Equality Coalition, which has lobbied for the registry. "We think it is only fair, and we think it is a small thing we're asking for."

The legal opinion, which doesn't have the power of a court ruling, states Lawrence should not create a registry that allows people from outside the city limits to register. Morrison wrote that the city could be found to be overstepping its constitutional authority if it did so.

The registry would allow unmarried couples - both same-sex and heterosexual - to register their domestic partnerships with City Hall.

Childs said registry's main benefit likely would be making it easier for domestic partners to qualify for health insurance benefits. There are companies that offer health insurance to the domestic partners of employees, but the partner normally must provide some form of documentation. Listing on the registry could be used as that documentation. The registry, however, would not require any business to offer benefits to domestic partners.

Now, the question becomes whether city commissioners are interested in creating the registry. Commissioner Sue Hack, who is expected to begin a one-year term as mayor Tuesday, said she hopes to have the issue on a City Commission agenda within 60 days.

But she stopped short of saying she was ready to create the registry.

"Because we were waiting for the attorney general's opinion, I haven't spent as much time studying it as I should," Hack said. "It hasn't been at the top of my list of issues to study, but it is moving up on the list now."

A majority of commissioners in January expressed support for the registry but said they first wanted to receive an attorney general's opinion on it.

The attorney general's opinion, however, did not come before the recent city elections. That means a new set of commissioners will consider it. New commissioners Rob Chestnut and Mike Dever - who will take office Tuesday - were noncommittal on the subject during the campaign.

Childs said she's optimistic the registry will be created in Lawrence, and she's willing to wait 60 days to give commissioners the time to get their questions answered.

"I think if the new city commissioners want to represent all of the city of Lawrence, they will pass this," Childs said. "I can understand that there are people who have some religious beliefs that might have concerns about this, but those shouldn't be used to mold public policy."

State legislators had been considering a law that would prohibit cities from creating a domestic partnership registry. But that legislation has not won approval, and legislative leaders recently said the issue probably is dead until next year's legislative session.

Comments

compmd 7 years, 8 months ago

Maybe it was a lightning bolt from God that took out power to a chunk of the city yesterday after this announcement was made.

mick 7 years, 8 months ago

Anyone who hasn't been properly indoctrinated into political correctness is a wingnut. Correct Drewdun?

bearded_gnome 7 years, 8 months ago

the best lil AG Tiller's money could buy!


Drew is an angry little crack. studies show that walking around with all that anger puts his/her heart at great risk. not a healthy coping style.

pelliott 7 years, 8 months ago

Klines attorney generals office ignored so much comsumer fraud, and the everyday necessities of importance to Kansas to pursue his antiabortion hunts. I was appalled to see the legislature trying to manage the office to continue serving their god, a narrow god that doesn't see identity theft, stalking, coorporate piracy as items to prioritize. It is bad enough to see workers rights and consumer rights gained through generations of sacrifice and lives being sold for pennies on the dollar by our Senators and Congressmen, but to finally get a bum out and they don't want the band to switch songs is really telling the voters, go to and your dead as a people. Someones' church principals should not take precident over how the law reads. Too much of my tax money has been spent in that office trying to twist the law to become canon. If the law does not restrict a city from forming a registry and the attorney general has been asked for an opinion, do i dare say it , It is his duty to state the law. The Fredites and the Klinites should not run this state out of law and into salem trials.

Fred Whitehead Jr. 7 years, 8 months ago

My only comment is that I am heartily pleased to see that this attorney general does not have the tunnel vision that the previous occupant of this office displayed. And I am thankful that he people of Kansas had the sanity to observe this also. Kline was a monumental embarrasment to Kansas and the new office holder clearly does not have his head stuck in the pages of the Holy Bible. Thanks for the breath of sanity and good judgement Mr. Morrison.

coneflower 7 years, 8 months ago

Cool! Let Lawrence be better than Kansas.

Jamesaust 7 years, 8 months ago

"The legal opinion, which doesn't have the power of a court ruling...."

True, but its the next best thing. The AG's opinions carry considerable weight with the courts. Nothing is binding but no Judge is going to toss this aside without considerable reflection.

And the report is no surprise. There's a considerable gap between holding, on one hand, an opinion that the State does not want to make any relationship other than 'traditional' (a/k/a, opposite gender) marriage in the likeness and form of marriage, and, on the other hand, a recognition that there are varieties of human relationships, including same gendered partners, that exist and have their own legalistic needs, including bare recognition.

All this registry accomplishes is to make such persons something other than "strangers before the law" - a 'reality based' approach (a/k/a, a Fact). Critics often resemble schizophrenics sticking their fingers in their ears, closing their eyes shut tight and muttering to themselves, "I can't see you. I can't hear you. You don't exist."

Ragingbear 7 years, 8 months ago

I have just been informed that the Westboro Baptist Church is downtown protesting it. Make sure to grab your cameras and go harrass them for being retards.

Ragingbear 7 years, 8 months ago

Well, if I were to say they were crazy, that would insult the mentally ill.

Let's all call them fags. That will really mess with their heads.

oldvet 7 years, 8 months ago

They have a different view then you do and you want to harass them and call them degrading names... you're no better than them... in fact, you are both very much alike, and my first statement applies equally to both of you...

Michael Capra 7 years, 8 months ago

HURRY Rundle we all want to know who he is so we can post more

bearded_gnome 7 years, 8 months ago

merely questioning the judgment of such an AG Aggie. he accepted a boatload of money from a current subject of investigation and prosecution. that's how, and you'd have seen it, if you weren't so blurry in your thinking Aggie. need any other truths explained?

you are so devoted to doubting that there is a God, yet you don't seem to doubt that I exist, and you routinely communicate at me without ever seeing or hearing me speak. what if, for example, I don't really exist?

Michael Capra 7 years, 8 months ago

DONT CARE WANT TO KNOW THE INVISABLE MADE UP LIFE LONG PARTNER THAT RUNDEL HAS,,NOT

Michael Capra 7 years, 8 months ago

MAKE THEM JUMP THOUGH THE HOOPS THEY HAVE CREATED

Godot 7 years, 8 months ago

bearded_gnome wrote: "you are so devoted to doubting that there is a God, yet you don't seem to doubt that I exist, and you routinely communicate at me without ever seeing or hearing me speak. what if, for example, I don't really exist?"

If a man speaks, and no woman hears him, is he still wrong?

Sorry, could not resist.

drewdun 7 years, 8 months ago

"Anyone who hasn't been properly indoctrinated into political correctness is a wingnut. Correct Drewdun?" - mick

Uhhh, no. People who hate 'the gays' for no good reason qualify as wingnuts to me. There are many fine examples of this present here.

"Drew is an angry little crack" - bearded gnome

Thanks for the analysis, doc. What's funny is that you have absolutely no idea who the hell I am, and yet you feel qualified to 'diagnose' me as a 'crack.' Now what was that you said about being angry? Judging by your previous posts its doubtful that you see the irony there:)

Godot 7 years, 8 months ago

Eliminate the income tax, eliminate tax breaks for benefits, eliminate the death tax, and, voila, no need for domestic registries, or, for that matter, government recognition of marriage.

The FAIR tax is the solution to so many of the injustices in our society.

bearded_gnome 7 years, 8 months ago

If a man speaks, and no woman hears him, is he still wrong?

why Godot, you must not be married, or not married very long. here's the answer.

''' if he speaks, of course he's wrong, because somewhere, anywhere, there are still women/womyn out there! remember clinton's comments on not being alone, no one is ever truly alone in the world. he then went on to emit the famous line "it depends on what the meaning of 'is' is."

I hope that stilled any lingering doubt.

bearded_gnome 7 years, 8 months ago

Righty, thanks for the 'boatload' (6) of links on Tiller's boatload of political influence money. some of the same people defending him on this with the AG automaticly imply evil motives for the high political donations Dever and Chestnut received. h y p o c r i s y.

you got that I was talking about Tiller the killer and the new'ly purchased AG...why can't the fuzzy Aggie get that?

bearded_gnome 7 years, 8 months ago

okay Drew, I'm typing very slowly for you now.
"Uhhh, no. People who hate 'the gays' for no good reason qualify as wingnuts to me. There are many fine examples of this present here."--Drew//// don't have one bit of hate for homosexuals. you're the one inferring hate and demonstrating lots of name calling and hate. I do not hate them just because I have a principled opposition to our society recognizing this kind of relationship. and before you start throwing the "homophobic" slur, that's not a real term, it was created to demonize those opposed to the homosexual agenda.


"Drew is an angry little crack" - bearded gnome

"Thanks for the analysis, doc. What's funny is that you have absolutely no idea who the hell I am, and yet you feel qualified to 'diagnose' me as a 'crack.' Now what was that you said about being angry? Judging by your previous posts its doubtful that you see the irony there:)"-Drew

no diagnosis was made, though if you knew me you'd be surprised. "you're an angry little crack" Drew you sure are one of the humor impaired. that's a line from a recent radio ad most of us know. besides, what's a "crack" in your reading? dunno. honestly, anyone reading my posts and yours would come away noting the humor and other heartfelt emotions which I express. reading your posts would be an excursion in name calling, personal slurs, demonization of national and other leaders, some bloodthirsty liberalism, a desire to criminalize policy differences, and just plainly a lot of anger. a far higher proportion of your posts have been removed than have been mine. the numbers there do not lie my angry little crack.

penguinatheart 7 years, 8 months ago

...wow. i'm confused. sarcasm? conservativism? or are you confusing homosexuals with sexual predators?

JSDAD 7 years, 8 months ago

THEY HAVE FINALLY FIGURED OUT HOW TO GET 3X POPULATION GROWTH IN THIS TOWN. NOW WHERE DO THEY ALL WORK, SO THOSE BENEFITS OF REGISTRY ARE USABLE.

Linda Endicott 7 years, 8 months ago

Gay people aren't all sterile, JSDAD, anymore than all heterosexuals are. Gee...

Gay people are perfectly capable of having children, even if through medical practices, not sexual ones.

What makes you think there will be less population growth? Many gay couples already have children. What's your point?

Besides, the domestic registry also applies to all heterosexual couples living together without being married as well.

Jamesaust 7 years, 8 months ago

"Someday there will be a cure for homosexuals...."

And what, pray tell, would they be cured of? Homosexuals are not "sick" heterosexuals.

Reminds me of a joke: Two gay gays are on a romantic vacation to the beach. Towards sunset they walk hand in hand along the waves filled with the joy of the moment and their love. Then they spot a beautiful woman walking alone towards them from the other direction ... model beautiful...a "10". As she passes, she says "Hi, boys," and smiles.
The gays are unable to avoid stopping and turning to watch her walk on. Says one guy to the other, "You know, sometimes, I wish I were a lesbian."

Thats_messed_up 7 years, 8 months ago

"Gay people are perfectly capable of having children, even if through medical practices, not sexual ones."

Is that because they squirt in the wrong place?

just_throw_bozo_from_this_bus 7 years, 8 months ago

Aren't homosexuals just genetically disfunctional and aren't they basically just an evolutionary anomaly? How are they different from someone who is born blind or someone with mongolism? Does this give them minority status? I guess the disabled have the ADA, is this registry like that?

Jamesaust 7 years, 8 months ago

"How are they different from someone who is born blind...."

Blindness is the result of a physiological damage. In blunt (and misleading) terms: part A doesn't work.
That's not so with homosexuality - part A works just fine, just not how YOU WANT it to. That is, people may be born blind but they're not GENETICALLY born blind; contrast, homosexuality. (Also, contrast, color "blindness".)

I don't really know what you mean by "evolutionary anomaly" but many theories exist as to why homosexuality is evolutionarily advantageous to animals - and indeed, it MUST be advantageous or else evolution would extinguish it in short order. Please remember: genetic "success" (a/k/a, reproduction) is about the survival of population of genes, not an individual representative's own genes. One is "successful" in reproducing if only one's siblings reproduce, for example.

Michael Capra 7 years, 8 months ago

NOD NOD NOD UP UP UP DOWN DOWN DOWN NOD NOD NOD SIGN UP WITH YOUR LIFE LONG PARTNER

Deb Engstrom 7 years, 8 months ago

This registry won't only be for same sex relationships. It will also be beneficial for heterosexual couples who choose not to marry, right? I really don't see the connection between Morrison and Dr. Tiller (if indeed there is one) having anything to do with this decision. What does the registry have to do with abortion?

Linda Endicott 7 years, 8 months ago

People aren't GENETICALLY born blind?

Really? So people who are born blind due to a malfuntion in development aren't born genetically blind?

I suppose people born with Down's Syndrome aren't born with it genetically. And people born with diabetes aren't born with it genetically. People born with dwarfism don't get it genetically, huh?

If evolution extinguishes anything that isn't advantageous, then why are humans still here? Considering how many millions of people have something wrong with them (and a lot of it GENETICALLY), you'd think evolution would have moved on to something better by now.

Jamesaust 7 years, 8 months ago

Q: "So people who are born blind due to a malfuntion in development aren't born genetically blind?"

A: No, they're not.

Although Lysenko in the Soviet Union did perpetuate false science claiming so for quite a while: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inherita...

Q: "I suppose people born with Down's Syndrome aren't born with it genetically."

A: Of course they are. Down Syndrome is a genetic disease caused by an extra 21st chromosome. Here's a picture: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/mapview/maps.cgi?taxid=9606&chr=21

"...you'd think evolution would have moved on to something better by now."

On the contrary. Human beings seem so successful that some have described them as being a plague on our planet.

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