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Brownback rallies South Dakotans for abortion ban


Here are today's headlines from the Kansas congressional delegation:Sen. Sam Brownback (R) ![][1][(Dakota Voice commentary) Marriage, Abortion Ban, Video Lottery Repeal Supporters Rally in Pierre:][2] A "Gideon's Army" of pastors, priests and lay Christians gathered in the South Dakota capitol of Pierre Thursday evening to take a stand for some of the most important issues of this election season. The first rally of the evening was at Community Bible Church in Pierre where several pastors and pro-life leaders spoke. Several state and federal officials, and candidates for office were present, including state District 33 senate candidate Dennis Schmidt, Rep. Larry Rhoden (Union Center), U.S. House of Representatives candidate Bruce Whalen (Pine Ridge), and United States Senator Sam Brownback of Kansas. When Senator Brownback spoke, he asked rhetorically what there was to disagree with in the statement that all life is precious. He said that he had asked some people at Harvard during a meeting, "Who in this room doesn't think your life is unique and precious?" Brownback said no one raised their hand. ... Brownback said the pro-life position would triumph on November 7, but admonished the crowd to get involved and stay involved to make the victory happen.[(AP) Judicial nominee says nothing wrong with attending lesbian ceremony:][3] A Michigan judge whose nomination to the federal bench is stalled over her appearance at a lesbian commitment ceremony says she attended as a friend, not to give legal sanction. The nomination of Michigan Court of Appeals Judge Janet T. Neff to be a U.S. District Court judge is on hold because Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kan., is not satisfied with her response to questions about her views on same-sex marriage, a spokesman for the senator said Thursday. Neff's status has been in limbo since last month, when Brownback placed his procedural hold - using a technique that allows a lone senator to stall a nomination. Brownback wanted to know whether there was anything illegal or improper about the 2002 ceremony in Massachusetts and how Neff's actions might shape her judicial philosophy. ... Neff declined to answer Brownback's questions on whether the Constitution guarantees a right to same-sex marriage or civil unions, saying it would be improper to address questions that might come before her as a federal judge. "She did not really address the judicial philosophy questions to his satisfaction," Brownback spokesman Brian Hart said. He would not say what Brownback planned to do next. [(Yahoo! News online chat) Talk to Sen. Sam Brownback:][4] Talk to Power is pleased to welcome Sen. Sam Brownback (news, bio, voting record) as our next guest. The Kansas Republican is now fielding your questions and comments and will respond on Nov. 1. Thank you in advance to everyone for their posts and to Sen. Brownback for participating. [1]: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/fr/thumb/c/c8/Sam_Brownback.jpg/150px-Sam_Brownback.jpg [2]: http://www.dakotavoice.com/200610/20061027_1.html [3]: http://news.bostonherald.com/politics/view.bg?articleid=164293 [4]: http://news.yahoo.com/s/judy_woodruff/20061026/judy_woodruff/j_woodruff11293


rhd99 11 years, 4 months ago

Brownback, BEAT IT! Take your dictatorial ideas for AMERICA & stick it!

Luxor 11 years, 4 months ago

If you want to end abortion in America, give people 100% reliable birth control. FREE. Until then, Brownback should shut up and mind his own business.

SettingTheRecordStraight 11 years, 4 months ago

Thank you to ANYONE working to end abortion in America.

SettingTheRecordStraight 11 years, 4 months ago

rjd, I should have been more clear. I want abortion outlawed. I want abortionists jailed, and I want their patient-victims counseled an how the abortion industry lied to them their whole lives telling them that abortion is a part of "people's private lives."

All of us, including the government, should be included in saving the lives of unborn children.

ryanjasondesch 11 years, 4 months ago

Settingtherecordstraight: Working to end abortion and outlawing abortion - two totally different things, the former being a noble aim, the latter being a frightening result of an overly-zealous government using the constitution as toilet paper instead of its intended use. Remember, a conservative agenda should exclude government involvment in people's private lives.

Stu Clark 11 years, 4 months ago


We tried that. I remember well the times when only the rich got safe abortions and many of the others died. Do you think that those were the good times? Every time I see a response like yours, I make a note to increase my donations to Planned Parenthood and ZPG.

kmat 11 years, 4 months ago

I'm also quite disgusted that Brownback is in SD pimping the anti-abortion issue instead of being in KS to take care of issues here. He was sent to DC to represent KS, not to be the poster boy for anti-abortion zealots across the country.

I wish this state would wake up and realize he's a hypocritical crack pot.

SettingTheRecordStraight 11 years, 4 months ago

"I remember well the times when only the rich got safe abortions and many of the others died."

It's sad that many women died (and still do) while having their babies killed, but I'll remind you that nearly 3,000 unborn babies are killed EVERY DAY in this country. Are you saying these are the good times?

rhd99 11 years, 4 months ago

Setting, the Anti-Abortion movement is as HYPOCRITICAL as any political movement in this country. Those who say abortion must be made illegal while protecting the unborn children was valid UNTIL the embryonic stem cell research issue came into play with Michael J. Fox & his ad supporting Jim Talent's opponent in Missouri. How can those who subscribe to the anti-abortion movement claim to support protecting human lives when on the other coin, they DON'T care whether people like FOX die from their diseases that COULD HAVE been cured with FUNDING for stem cell research? The anti-abortion movement's arguments are a farse & provide false pre-tenses that jeopardize human lives of not only the fetus, but the mother & ALSO people suffering from Parkinson's Disease like Fox.

kmat 11 years, 4 months ago

STRS - you don't like abortions, then you should volunteer to adopt every child that needs a good home. I'm not a fan of abortions, but I would never tell someone else that my opinion is what should dictate their lives. Are you willing to pay the health care costs for the all of the pregnant mothers that wouldn't be allowed an abortion, then pay to raise these children? Most of the people I hear whine about the abortion issue aren't willing to take care of the actual born children in this country that need help. How much in federal funds will the country need to spend building orphanages, paying the medical costs of the pregnant mothers, the med bills for these children, etc???

Do you call yourself a conservative? If so, then you should be for small govt which goes against your anti-abortion stance.

Don't like abortions, don't have one. Help educate our youth on sex and birth control, unlike the current conservative movement that only teaches abstinence. Create national health care so pregnant women with no insurance don't go $30,000 into debt having the child.

And before you spew the "those women got pregnant" crap, remember that birth control can fail, accidents can happen and women do get raped. Is it better to have a woman go on welfare because of an accidental pregnancy and not be able to take care of her child financially?

See, there are so many things you anti-abortion nuts don't consider. It's just always, "save the zygote" instead of trying to come to a moderate solution to unwanted pregnancies.

rhd99 11 years, 4 months ago

Maybe Kansas should DISOWN Brownback & he should move to SOUTH DAKOTA! DOWN WITH BROWNBACK! ENOUGH of him! Time to vote him OUT in 2008! The campaign to RID this great state of this VENOM starts NOW!

rhd99 11 years, 4 months ago

By the way, did Senator BROWN NOSE ever THINK about the consequences of his STUPID idea if the woman was raped or suffered incest?! HECK NO! He is as LOONEY as they come! Presidential he is, huh? FORGET YOU BROWN NOSE!

SettingTheRecordStraight 11 years, 4 months ago

"...but I would never tell someone else that my opinion is what should dictate their lives."

You're reading word-for-word from the Church of Tolerance script. You've bought their message of moral relativism hook, line and sinker.

What we need are men and women of principle and conviction who will stand up to those forces which attempt to oppress those with no voice.

And as a former blastulus, zygote, embryo and fetus, I can state with certainty that we must afford every protection under the law to the unborn. Have a great weekend.

rhd99 11 years, 4 months ago

BROWN NOSE knows NOTHING about the pains that a woman goes through when she's pregnant. Setting, then you are protecting the rapists & the dead beat Dads who jump ship when they committed bodily harm to a woman's body, putting the baby in danger after a rape & incest. That & BROWN NOSE making the move in South Dakota makes ME feel safer, WHATEVER!

SettingTheRecordStraight 11 years, 4 months ago

I've got so many fans today, I don't know where to begin. (blush)

don_burgess 11 years, 4 months ago


Cait McKnelly 11 years, 4 months ago

You know I don't necessarily like abortion but until these people who scream about "saving the babies" start working to save the lives of the children who are already born in this country I'm not sure they have any right to scream about saving the UNborn. Here are some pretty astonishing satistics in and of themselves:

About 15 million children -- one out of every four -- live below the official poverty line. 22% of Americans under the age of 18 -- and 25% under age 12 -- are hungry or at the risk of being hungry. Everyday 2,660 children are born into poverty; 27 die because of it. Children and families are the fastest growing group in the homeless population, representing 40%

Want a source for these statistics? Go Google children poverty US. There's an astonishing 35,000+ hits. When I see Brownnose working his rear off for welfare reform that will support these children then I might admit he can have some voice in the abortion issue. Understand I said MIGHT. I cannot respect any man who would value the life of an unborn above MY life, an already born person.

SettingTheRecordStraight 11 years, 4 months ago

The Church of Tolerance isn't a real organization. I just made it up. Clever, huh? Everyone prays to something, worships somewhere. For some it's God at a church, to others it's nature through Secular Humanism, to still more it's to the "celebration" of "unique" yet "diverse," "inclusive," "mainstream" and "progressive" "social justice" programs at the Church of Tolerance.

I can't take credit for this line, but I liked it, "The last virtue of a morally degenerate society is tolerance."

Kontum1972 11 years, 4 months ago

South Dakota...where Men are Men..and Sheep are Nervous....BAAAAAAAAAA.....BAAAAAAAA....


Katara 11 years, 4 months ago

kmat & Cait48- That is what I've been saying all along! Thank you for pointing it out again!

Anti-choice people such as SettingtheRecordStraight & Parkay talk a fine piece about saving all the unborn babies, but those very people who are elected because voters such as these 2 posters vote for them, rarely put the child first once the child is actually born.

How about taking care of the ones already here? You'll see that STRS & Parkay are silent on what to do once that child is here.

There are pro-lifers out there who do practice what they preach and work to helping all children, born or unborn, and I respect those people. These are the people who are foster parents, who adopt children, who are active in programs that work to lift kids out of poverty and out of abusive situations. They also work to helping prevent unwanted pregnancies.

Then you have the other group who really care nothing about the children themselves. They care only about controlling other people's lives. They care only about bending other people to their will and forcing them to live life the way they see fit. Those people want to eliminate any type of choice period.

Brownback is one of those people.

Just look at how he is reacting to the judge who attended a friend's commitment ceremony. He is holding up the nomination proceedings by using procedural hold. He is the only one having a problem with her attending a friend's ceremony from the actual articles where it states...

"Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter, R-Pa., has declined Brownback's request to bring Neff back for a second hearing, a committee spokeswoman said Thursday. The committee has approved Neff's nomination, which is pending before the full Senate. "

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