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How should a person feel making 30k and paying taxes working for some one making millions and doesn't pay any taxes
Or better yet, have the government take from the working poors family and give it to some welfare queen or 400 lb walmart breeder.
News reports have Phil Mikelson, the golfer, pondering a move from California to somewhere like Texas to avoid having to pay upwards of $1.8 million in personal state income taxes. Would it not be nice to have someone like Mikelson move to Kansas, and support the local charities in our state before Obama takes away the charitable contribution exemption? New York has almost ran off most of its people of means, many of which have relocated to Florida. Part of retirement planning is reducing your tax burdon. The playing field is level as anyone can do this, they just have to plan.
What the left does not understand is, the rich do not have to live in the United States. They have the means to live anywhere. It appears that most don't mind paying some income taxes, but when they are singled out many take offense.
We are back to some type of a consumption tax, where everyone pays taxes on what ever they choose to consume. This is the only fair way.
While the vast majority are in a race to the bottom, why should they give a damn where Mikkelson goes to hoard his millions?
Why on earth would anyone move to Kansas to pay fewer taxes? Texas has a lot of oil money, so they can still maintain most of their services, Kansas doesn't. People on retirement don't pay a lot of taxes, unless they are really rich, but Florida has enticed them because it's warm and there are beaches. Why wouldn't you go, if you could afford to. And if there are no taxes in Florida and Texas, are the governors and state reps all voluntary? Are there no police? Did they go to all public schools?
So you think, Can't have it both ways, that the president has the power to tax or take away deductions and exemptions? Where did you read that? In a comic book. It is the Congress who taxes not the President.
You should get with it soldier. Educate yourself in what is going on in Washington. I would think that with your service you have a clue about how government works, their Friday night quitting time executive orders and the like. Yes, contained within the new tax plan is talk about taking away the charitable contribution. Please do not grow up to be an uninformed voter. Remember, believe only half of what you see and none of what you hear.
That's class warfare if I have ever seen it! How should the person making millions (or even much less for that matter) feel about paying mucho dollars for all the entitlement programs, etc., etc., etc.? It is a myth that the rich don't pay taxes. They simply take advantage of the tax laws that have been presented to them. If you don't like it, change the tax law. How about a flat tax for all. Should not everyone pay something?
" They simply take advantage of the tax laws that have been presented to them. If you don't like it, change the tax law."
The irony is thick here.
this situation is not exactly new. It has been happening for years. The rich get richer, and the rest of us are screwed.
Wouldn't it be fun to know how the results of the poll correlate to the number of people who actually pay state income taxes?
Bingo! Actually surprised it took that long.........
Right on! Just like Larry Town. A lot of free loaders that want someone else to pay!
I would think a small business, that needs to replace or add some machinery or equipment, which in turn needs operators (Jobs), had the means to purchase that equipment, everyone wins. The new employees get a 30/hr week job (Due to Obamacare), and the manufacturer of that machinery or equipment the Kansas business owner can now afford, is one less piece of equipment from everyone in the plant losing their jobs.
It is pretty simple, if you control how to spend your hard earned cash thing are much better. It is when those who have nothing in the game, those who do not understand basic economics, or those who think the government knows better how to spend your cash are in charge things turn out the way they are now. No matter your political choice, we would all agree that the person who earned the money should be in charge of the way it is spent.
There is nothing wrong with acquiring wealth, unless you are the one that is not doing it.
I didn't know the Affordable Care Act mandated a minimum wage of $30/hour.
Thanks for the info.
Reread, please. He commented on 30 hours a week jobs - due to the fact that ObamaCare now sets that as a "full time" position and medical coverage must be paid by the employer. It used to be 40 hours a week.. Due to this absurd change many employers are having to cut back on employees hours.
funny thing about this is that Employers having to cut back is a bunch of bull. They make is seem that the Obama care is going to cut deeply into their wallets. Heck it won't do that at all. Its a minor increase that they can easly afford by not being so freaking wasteful on how the manage their money. I know 4 small business owners here in Lawrence and everyone says that the media and ding dongs that make statments about "how bad Obamacare is going to hurt us" is a bunch of bull. They say the increase is minimal and they can easily make up for the extra spending on healthcare via smarter choices on how they spend their money and manage it. Also, they get to right all this off in taxes so they are getting their money back by payin less taxes.
They don't have to cut back on hours they choose to cut back on hours so they do not have to pay benefits.
"Start sarcasm" But we all know its a fact that those on Medicaid and food stamps don't work at all because the jobs out there pay enough to maintain a persons basic needs especally the ones with medical issues. "End sarcasm"
And how is that tantrum working out for those employers?
30 hours per week is the standard used to determine if an employer is "actively at work" and thus eligible for full-time employee benefits. This is a standard set by benefit providers as part of their contracts with employers. It is not something new. It has been the standard for decades.
And yet, many companies have 40 hour work weeks and provide insurance already. Nearly 2/3 of the people in the US have been covered all along by employee provided insurance. I've never worked for a company who didn't provide group insurance for their employees. They have often had to ask the employee to pay a larger share, but these insurance rate hikes was going on long before the Affordable Care Act, and many companies were not hiking these so they could cover health care costs, but to give their CEO's big bonuses. Why would a company who has done this all along, not continue? Why is a multi billion dollar company not offering insurance to their employees, except for greed. Conservatives are suppose to be such good little Christians. Isn't greed one of the sins? You actually worship and embrace greed. Hypocrites.
If you think employers are going to keep providing health insurance to their workers at over $1,000 per month when they can drop the insurance and pay a $2,000 a year fine, you might think again. Those of you that complain about corporate welfare might re think your position. Obama has just handed corporations their single largest influx of cash in their history.
As far as embracing greed, how is it greed when you want to keep, at least, most of what you earn vs. those who want to take it from you. I would think wanting to keep what you earned is natural, demanding that the government take from others and give it to you constitutes greed.
Replace the income tax with a consumption tax. Those that save are rewarded. Those that spend pay taxes and gets stuff at a price including tax that better reflects the resources used. Especially tax food, alcohol, and sports entertainment.
Some folks might decide to stay at home and fix dinner and sit down with the kids. Would not that be an original idea? I think the rug needs to be pulled out from under a lot of us. Get a real taste of what life is really about without using the credit card.
The only Kansans who will really notice the difference in a tax reduction are those individuals with an annual gross income over $250,000 and corporations. For the rest of us it's a joke.
I might remind you that Obama let the tax holiday expire, which took added back the additional 2% in with holdings you had been allowed to keep. All that hype about the rich paying their fair share was a smoke screen to raise taxes on everyone. But at the same time, did those on welfare take a pay cut? I don't ever remembering people on welfare ever taking a pay cut, just numerous COLA's. Somehow the math does not work.
Right. He "let" the holiday expire. Because he vetoed all the bills that included it.
Obviously, you have no understanding what a tax holiday is.
Hint: It is not designed to be permanent.
True, but when the economy sucks, a lot of foks enjoyed that 2%.
He asked for it to be included, even when he was making the terrible bargain to lower social security payments by using the chained CPI model. It wasn't included in the final deal, probably precisely so the GOP could get everyone angry about having their taxes raised.
Yes, it was nice but I also understand that making it permanent does no good for me if I hope to see any form of Social Security in my future.
You are correct, Katara. This was merely a temporary reduction in the amount of SS payroll withholding. If SS is already in danger of insolvency, extending the cut would be insane.
I see no evidence that 'trickle-down' (Laffer theory) works for the voters, but it may well work for the 1%. I learned in college economics that the best tax theory for the voters is the 'progressive tax structure.' Those who have the means should pay the greatest burden of taxes and those who cannot even make ends meet should not be required or expected to pay any taxes. Sales taxes and user taxes are the most unfair taxes and have nothing to do with ability to pay. Compassion is Wisdom and citizens must 'feed the poor, heal the sick and release the prisoners (who are not a threat to other citizens).'
WOW... have you no shame? Some people drink and smoke weed every day...others save for retirement. Why should people who plan for retirement support those who chose a life of substance abuse?
Sounds like the Little Red Hen! Do you remember that? Probably not. Too young!
You can't tax yourself to prosperity. When the number of people getting aid out numbers the number paying taxes to help them............
You run out of money. We have already done that. That is why we are borrowing so much from the Chinese. I sure hope that AsherwhitE did not go to KU?
Do not cut state income taxes, delete state income taxes and then downsize state government so it exists withing it's means.
If we have enough cops to send out on "seat belt surveillance" we have too many cops.
I agree with your sentiments regarding seat belts.
Are we allowed to report the cops who are not wearing theirs?
A better alocation of resources would be along K10. ..and they should put a speed monitoring sign on the east side of town before someone gets killed.
We need better management and politics is the antithesis of good management.
Trickle-down does not work. Our schools are starving. Enough.
People are not going to move to Kansas because of income taxes - not when there are no jobs, and the schools are terrible and getting worse by the year.
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