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I think I know what that "A" stands for, too. I would have to agree with the A+ then, because he is a plus-sized "A" alright.
I agree. A+. People, especially on this forum, can't stand the fact that some for the first time in a long long time is actually leading this state. Good job Sam!
I want my free money and I don't want to put any effort into it.
FAIL. As a taxpayer - and not a "free money" slacker, I resent the Imaginary Sky God's henchman ramming his Crucifix down my throat. That's why Sam got an "F" from me.
If we are going to start slashing the budget and cutting funding for people at the bottom end of the spectrum, then you know what, yeah, I want the people on the upper end of things to feel the pinch too.
The entire idea of America, hell, of a society in general, is that we do better when we cooperate than when we fight against each other. It's why we stopped being wandering tribes and built cities in the first place. And the price that we pay for being a Citizen, is that we all chip in. This gives us good roads and schools. This gives us fire and police protection.
And it used to be, that it gave you a better place to beg for money when you had none. But a long time ago, we decided that it would be better if there was a place people could go and get help. Our govt decided they would start agencies to help those in need. Does that get abused sometimes, sure. Is it absolutely necessary at others, most definitely.
Then add in the fact that SRS does a lot more than just give out money and food to those who need it. Child protective services? SRS. Domestic abuse? SRS.
Not everyone in the world is a dirty filthy freeloader who is after your money. The world is not black and white. Practical solutions require compromise. And by definition, a compromise means everyone gets something, but everyone also looses something.
Agree, nice job. It would seem that the very folks that are ready to man the barricades, with shouts of "off with his head", are those that would never, ever recognize that compromise goes both ways.. Both ends of the specturm believe that compromise only occurs when you agree with their point of view. Personally I wish labels and party affiliation would be verbotten in campaigns and leadership. Can you possibly imagine speaking only from conviction and not having half of the country immediately judge you, pro and con, simply because of the initial (R or D) after your name?
But then again I also believe in fairies...Tinkerbell especially.
Yessssssss!!! One of the best posts I've seen on here. Ever. Please run against him next time?
I could not agree with you more! Here Here!! I wish that would get through to some people!
Yes, please run.
I would run, but, two things:
I really really don't want to. I don't want the heap of power and responsibility, because I don't believe that I have the wisdom to use it properly and fairly. I also realise this means I would probably do a better job than most career politicians.
Let's just say there are, ummmm, things in my past which would not go well in the current political climate ;)
But thank you for the nomination all.
The things that will destroy America are prosperity-at-any-price, peace-at-any-price, safety-first instead of duty-first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life.
and if I remember right Theodore Roosevelt also said that history will judge us on how we treat the least among us.
the SRS was created to give people a helping hand to people that need it.
It was once said that the moral test of government is how that government treats those who are in the dawn of life, the children; those who are in the twilight of life, the elderly; and those who are in the shadows of life, the sick, the needy and the handicapped.
Hubert H. Humphrey
“You can’t get the gauge of a man by how he treats his peers, it’s how he treats his inferiors that shows his true character." -JK Rowling
By far the worst governor Kansas has ever had and we still have 42 l-o-n-g months to go!
The little dancing fool has always been a religious nut. Didn't you know God called him into service for a special mission. God wants him to save the World, not just Kansas.
He's on a mission from God!
I'm tired of Republicans using the budget to punish the poor. However, the writing is on the wall and if we manage to make the rich pay their share, we will see ten times as much bullying for the underclass. Full on civil/class war in 5-4-3......
It's the final countdown....
For the most part, the rich already "pay their share" and then some. Just because someone has more than you doesn't make them evil or bad. I guess if you believe we should all drive the same age car, live in the same size house and have the same amount of money.....well that would be a boring way to live. No incentive to try hard to make more.
Sounds like any typical suburban subdivision named after the animals and natural features that used to be there.
" I guess if you believe we should all drive the same age car, live in the same size house and have the same amount of money"
Practically no one believes that or wants that. What's the incentive to try hard right now? Unless you already have a significant amount of money, it's extraordinarily difficult to start your own business, innovate or invent, or even get an interview against a candidate with elite private education.
What share is it the rich should pay? Don't tell me what the rates are, because they don't pay them. Loopholes, exemptions, and capital gains = tax avoidance. The rich may have to pay a lot of money, but that's by virtue of the fact that they make a lot of money, and their lifestyle would be possible in few other places on this planet. You play, you pay. The rest of us live that every day, despite what you think.
Better yet, you could be a millionaire developer and name streets, and entire neighborhoods after your kids. Tucker Trail, Hutton Farms......etc. How modest of the monied!
Suggestion to the rich folks....stop dressing up and try to blend in with the rest of us.
Expected pole results from Lawrence. Tough times, tough and unpopular decisions.
And unrealistic, and thoughtless, and unfair, and on and on and on................... This guy is a heel. His continued tenure in office will -- not might, but will -- spell the undoing of all that is good in Kansas. Our only hope is that those who knee-jerked him into office will actually think next time around, and elect someone, and a legislature to go with him/her, who have the good of the entire state in mind, rather than the betterment of the few to the detriment of the many.
Unfortunately, I was one of them :( I'm sorry. I know this guy is a LOSER. I wish I knew better than to vote for him. Talk about me being naive. I won't support him or any of his agenda now or ever again. Count on it!!!!!
OK, you voted for what you were told would be a better Kansas. I have the feeling that you are telling the truth, and that you'll not vote for this guy again. Now, the next step is to let everyone you know how disillusioned and lied to by him you feel, and campaign actively for a better Kansas, Republican-, Democrat- or Libertarian- led. It's hard to admit mistakes, especially when you made the mistake based on lies and misstatements made to you, but you can atone for the mistake in the future. Let's hope a majority of Kansans feel, and act, the same way.
In all the time I have been on this forum board, sometimes I felt like crap like I feel right now. You, however, made me feel better about myself. Thanks for your understanding. I have begun to speak out. It's ONLY the beginning.
I hope you're not the only one that was originally a supporter that's since had a change of heart! Kudos to you for being vocal and not just sitting around being grumbly to yourself about it. The only way anything will change is if people at the polls next time don't fill in the bubble beside his name!
I actually have taken action. Go to this website. http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/sambrownback
Get as many people to sign. We may not kick him out now, but we can ruin his chances of being re-elected or seeking higher offices in the future!
Thanks, rhd99, I have signed the petition.
I'm would like to hear your story of why you thought Brownback would be good for our state. It might help us understand and move forward.
Hindsight 20/20, I did not hear Tom Holland talk about ideas of how to produce new jobs in our state, how he was going to protect public education, strengthen SRS or protecting women's health issues. Basically, Brownback was doing all the talking on the television air waves. I heard nothing from Holland.
Now, I, however WRONGLY, believed Brownback could be better. No, instead, he turns out to be this radical, anti-abortionist who does not know anything about protecting the health of women during their pregnancies. Now, he closes SRS here in Lawrence, WRONGLY cuts the Kansas Arts Commission, and now, his policies have produced a net loss of jobs. I know there is more to this story, but I was wrong in supporting this guy. Now, I am fighting back, verity. I will never vote him back into office EVER again. In fact, I would love to find a way to make him a one term Governor. Count on it.
Thank you. Sounds like you heard a message from Brownback and not from Holland---something we need to keep in mind in the next election.
Of course, part of the problem was that Brownback had the money to get his message across and Holland didn't.
1) It's "poll".
2) "Tough times" has absolutely nothing to do with the legislative calendar being wasted on BS social issues that should always come second to the budget. As far as Brownback is concerned, we seemed to have elected him to turn this state into some kind of Christianist Conservative Sharia state instead of electing him and the people in the legislature to, you know, balance the budget and run the government.
Not that it matters, I voted for the other guy.
Your "pole results" brought to mind pole-dancing, pole-vaulting and those poles that the Merry Men fought with.
We could poll people about poles.
Sorry, but it actually made me smile. Very little does these days.
hehe. Brownback wouldn't condone pole-dancing! But he'd love to see some poll-dancing!
mb a big bird will fly into the turbofan...as a freak of nature...who knows!
Really Godback is not deserving of any letter grade! I think about the people who will die from his religious vendetta.....shame on you, you human paraquat!!!
I do not agree with his Social or his Economic policies. Not a bit.
I am absolutely scared to death of how far religion is moving into his administration. Not everyone is a Christian. Not everyone wants to live by their rules and morals.
And I used to think that the great point of this country was that no one HAD to live by the religions and morals of another.
Now . . . not so sure.
Not every Christian shares his beliefs. What I learned and what I try to live is a religion of caring, acceptance and compassion. And no, not everyone is a Christian. We need to respect the rights and beliefs of all people. I do not want his sick interpretation of Christ forced on anyone.
Sam, as a Opus Dei Catholic dogmatic right wing whacko, I'd say he deserves an A+. As a supposedly compassionate Christian, he exhibits the arrogance of a privileged man ,borne in and married into wealth and does not deserve a grade (an incomplete human being)!
y'all shoulda voted for puddleglum...
I could help you. each and every one of you.
I never vote for anyone better looking that I, sorry
oh, them-theres fighting words....
Is stinks a grade?
No, but it is an A+ response.
Immorality---let's ponder that a moment. Since I am a Christian and actively read the verses from which you and the governor claim to be deriving your beliefs, I have to say you all need to read again the most important pieces of the gospel--you know, the references to how we are supposed to treat the poor, widowed, sick, and most in need??? If this is, indeed, your measure of good and moral government, then the directives your governor is issuing are the most IMMORAL acts possible. He is acting without CHARITY...and without it, we are nothing. So before you go touting some kind of morality, here, better go back and read the words in the source material. You will find your statements and your governor in direct violation of the most important, the strongest message that exists in Christ's teachings. These political policy moves are not about morality--they are about the aggregation of political power and wealth for a few-- hidden behind a cloak of religion. There is nothing righteous in using religion to control and subjugate people...I thought that was what we were fighting against in our wars overseas...theocracies without rights or compassion?? Didn't we spend billions in Afghanistan to liberate people from religious extremists who treat women as chattel? In Iraq to hunt down a dictator who lived in a palace while his people lived in the dirt? The irony is depressing.
Beautifully and correctly stated. Thank you .
Well said vocal.
From one Sister/Brother to another...I totally agree Vocal! Being Christian, to me, doesn't mean being insensitive to those who are down on their luck, struggling with illnesses, physical and mental disabilities, abuse and neglect etc.etc.! Brownback's heart, to me is not in tune to Christ's purpose. In fact, Brownback, it appears, has a BlackHeart!
I'll put my "New Democratic Party" up against your "New World Order" any day.
I do Not wish to live in a Progressive Socialist Worker's Utopia or a Conservative Christian Theocracy. Progressives and Theocrats are equally dangerous and evil.
I actually agree with you, Gene, but an over the top statement needs an over the top answer. They're both equally ridiculous.
You're ready with a shovel full of it, alright.
The problem is that in these 6 months, he's done nothing to help the economy of KS. He's found plenty of time to shove his religious agenda down everyone's throats though.
You don't have to be a liberal to hate Brownback. Many REAL republicans hate the man too.
Lies, twisted information and deliberate misleading. How's that for his next election slogan?
Remember kids -- government pushing religious/social/moral agenda is an A+ if (and only if) it's a conservative republican.
Anything else? Tyranny, "Socialism", "America under assault" and other nonsense.
Where are the jobs, Brownie? Or hasn't your Invisible Sky Pixie told you where you can find the stone tablets those are carved on yet?
Pretty overwhelming....and you wonder why he concentrates cuts on KU and our local SRS office? Hah, hah, hah. (You KNOW this poll has already been discussed today at the Chief Redneck's office in Topeka.)
I'm surprised the Chief Redneck was able to find money for the SLT somewhere. But hey, that's a road. Nothing a redneck likes better than a road! (And the rednecks from Ottawa needed to be given a way to avoid traveling through Lawrence where they might spend money in a business owned by someone who doesn't vote Redneck.)
Now, if the SLT was a high-speed rail line, or a bus line, or anything else that might be used by poor people, it would be completely unfunded.
"(You KNOW this poll has already been discussed today at the Chief Redneck's office in Topeka.)"
I highly doubt that. Like most celebrities I doubt BB ever reads his own press. He might have a "handler" (read flunky) who reads it for him and then distills out all of the nice bits. He will deliberately (I'm absolutely sure this bootlicker isn't female) misconstrue the results of the poll and tell BB that 71%, not 71 people, gave him an A.
Then the Emperor Comodus, oh excuse me, Governor Brownback, will retire to his baths, oops, slipped again, to his home theater, and self flaggelate to Mel Gibson's "Passion of the Christ" for the umpteenth time.
This is a xenophobic schizophrenic state. White rural people love their farm subsidies
and their food stamps and yet they vote for dumblicans like Bryllocreme thinking they're
stopping illegals or some other bs slogan. Bryllocreme deserves an F. They think they're
living off the grid and don't need the US Government when it was this very government
stole their lands from the Osage people between 1825 and 1871. Dumblicans dream
up financial schemes to bring their version of financial solvency at the expense of common
people. Kansas wake up...rebel against the dummies west of topeka who vote for this clown.
Yeah and the next election will "have consequences" too.
I love that the only defense the fascist party of faux christian religicons offer are essentially either "Nanny nanny booboo" or "He did it, too!"
So in other words, you are incapable of defending your fellow traveler. Not everyone wants to live in a fundamentalist catholic theocratic plutocracy.
About 1/3 of eligible voters elected him.
And some of those are not happy with what he's doing and won't vote for him again.
"The state of Kansas is with you"
Since he was only elected by 1/3 of eligible voters, this statement is inaccurate.
Overstatements like this are much too common in politics these days, in my opinion.
When about 1/2 of eligible voters choose not to vote at all, results of elections are not mandates of any sort.
"The State of Kansas is with you?". Oh ho ho ho, that's hilarious!
I can seriously list at least a dozen republicans I know that are pissed he's gov. You are just an idiot.
He has the courage of the Kochs' convictions. He has the courage of the convictions of the "religious" extremists who will have no part of human kindness or charity. He has the courage of the convictions of the ultra-wealthy. He has not had an original thought aimed at the welfare of the state but at the welfare of the ultra right knee jerk money people. That's what he has the convictions of.
Although Obama is our President and certainly not anyone's god, want to know the big difference between Obama and a sky god?
Obama actually exists.
Um, hate to burst this lastest anti-Obama rant of yours, but we are atheists -- we simply don't believe in any gods at all, earth-bound or skyward. None at all.
And if they are Christians, but don't follow his party line, then they aren't really Christians.
Obama actually exists, and believes that (a sky) God does too!
I'm actually starting to worry that I don't have the six months I planned for to get out of this state. Someone please tell me the "Christian Taliban" isn't going to show up at 1:00 AM and drag my poor disabled a$$ out into the street.
Wow. It just gets more and more surreal. If it wasn't for the fact that I didn't do acid back in the '60's I'd swear I was having a flashback of a bad trip.
Tell ya what, Cait. In the event that you get attacked in such a manner, gimme a shout. I'll peronally stick a size twelve up their nose for ya.
'Course, I'm gonna need some bigger shoes....
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F. It has been absolutely sickening watching him drive this state into the ground. I feel sorry for all the voters that believed his lies and I have no hope for the people that still believe him.
I've thought about moving from Kansas, but have always been torn. I guess I can thank Brownback for helping me make my decision. Create jobs my ass, I will be taking mine elsewhere. This is quickly becoming a place I don't want to raise a family.
Please stay and help us stand against these people. If you leave, that's one less vote against Brownback.
F. I thought the Republic of Gilead was fictional.
Of course it will! They know how to pad polls like this. Of course, everybody else does too. That "A' has stayed steady at 8% for hours while all of the numbers have risen.
if bryllocreme is such a raging catholic why doesn't he move his crazyness to St. Mary's
Kansas and move across the tracks to the former Catholic Potawatomi Indian mission
that is now home to nuts who didn't allow a woman referee to work one of their academy
high school basketball games. He fits with the across the tracks crowd there. On another
note, I remember hearing about Timothy McVeigh attending church attending church
with these nuts who put liens on federal judges and the like in the early 1990's. They
were anti government people during Clinton and what is Brownback now?
Aw... crap... I gave the guy an "F" on this thing. Then I realized how Mr. Brownback is actually making everything better for the state. At least if you think a bit on how to invest....
The "pro-life" legislation will make coat hangers a hot commodity, so everyone should invest in coat hangers. The wire ones, not the PVC plastic type. You can add value to them by pre-bending them into the proper shape.
The "healthy marriage" policy will create a huge increase in the suicide rate. And murder rate. And murder-suicide rate.
For the potential suicide rate increase, invest in futurama-style suicide-booths.
For the murder rate, invest in gun companies.
For the murder-suicide rate, invest in both.
For the truly desperate, we could even produce ready-to-use suicide bomber vests. "C'mon honey, give me a hug...."
Well, maybe not the vests.... There might be laws against property damage...
But the cool part is, the plan is set up to be multi-generational. Kill as much education funding as you can, maybe focus a bit more on religious studies in grade school (we can throw out math and science. That's all BS anyway, right?), and society at large will fall in line.
After all, if their lives suck, it's not a circumstance thing. According to the state of Kansas, it's because they pissed off god.
I'm gonna go online and look for pricing on coathangers. Y'all have a wonderful night.
I'll give him an "F". Also a "U".
Good one Kat. My entire family liked (and laughed) at this one.
I'd like an option to reflect that he is not simply failing, he is engaged in deliberate infliction of harm upon segments of the state's population. For those with the misfortune of living in Lawrence, or not being "saved" or not being a member of the preferred socio-economic background, the Gov. seems to be going out of his way to inflict pain and suffering. For that, surely, he deserves something worse than an "F."
How bout a RECALL?!
I agree. He deserves a Z.
As a politician, he has failed at participation and reaching stated objectives. Here's the "Road Map for Kansas". I have not found additions to this list.
• Increasing net personal income;
• increasing private sector jobs;
• increasing reading proficiency at the fourth-grade level;
• increasing percentage of high school graduates who are college or career ready;
• decrease the number of children who live in poverty.
I give him an "A" for "Abortion".
It is clearly his only concern.
I really don't like the man. I think he is very insincere about his religeon.
But I also see daily the rampant abuse of the entittlement system. It needs to be cut as we just can't sustain it.
So he gets a C from me.
Moving the available resources to KC will do nothing but increase the abuse. How will someone in KC approving benefits on-line have any idea what someone in Lawrence is doing?
This horse's heinie gets an F-.
Welcome to Brownbackistan.
Gooooooooooo Sam!!!!! You libs just don't like being told that you don't get a free handout anymore. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!
I really think "us libs" just prefer to not have the government dictate how we live every part of our lives according to THEIR beliefs. Not to mention we like to make choices and have a say in how our country is run. Also, we think that all people should have equal rights regardless of any factors. That's what real freedom is.
I'm curious to know how outlawing abortion and spending state money on "marriage initiatives" (both things that, if you were real Republican, you would be screaming about as well) equal "not getting a free handout". Seems to me that if you're against welfare you'd be against it on both the personal and corporate level.
I also find your hilarity at the potential suffering of the disabled a bit disturbing. So were you the kid in junior high who routinely deliberately tripped the retarded kid and found it amusing?
And another rightwinger who can't or won't answer my questions "bravely runs away".
Hey, Obama is still President and probably will be in 2013. hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahhahaahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahhahaahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahhahaahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahhahaahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaah!!!
I've got a big ole "F" for Sam Brownback. It's equivalent to the giant "F"ing mess that he is making of Kansas.
these LJW polls are spot on. just ask Sven.
Nah, you caught it in time :D
Kansas, the armpit of the US.
Brownbackistan is punishing Lawrence.....well, for being Lawrence.
Make no mistake. Closing the Lawrence SRS is just another shot in the culture wars being waged by Brownback. Lawrence has been singled out because of its moderate to liberal politics and its refusal to cede the state to religious fundamentalism.
Other Brownback shots in the culture wars include defunding the KAC and the four anti-abortion bills. Taking federal money from Planned Parenthood for women's services is simply biased targeting and retribution for providing abortion services, despite the fact that federal money cannot be used for abortions.
Brownback is clearly more concerned with the culture wars than with the economy. He is exceeding my expectations as to how bad he would be for the state.
Brownback = epic fail.
Lawrence, Kansas is a failed experiment in radical Socialist programming. Of course the trolls there are up in arms, however, Sam Brownback deserves blue ribbons and unlimited terms in office for throwing light on Lawrence, and scaring the bejeesus out of the roaches there.
He can try, but he will NEVER be elected President of the United States, GUARANTEED!
Brownback must own a very different translation of the Bible from mine. His "family values" are not mine.
F for Frownback.
Mentally challenged people can't drive , don't know how to use computers, have trouble with verbal skills and can't use phones for long distance well. Brownback wants to make it harder for them and those who care for them. Handicap the handicapped, sure, why not? Stupid! If Topeka got KNI then I think Lawrence should get to keep the SRS office, especially since it serves more. Why did the state give the Planned Parenthood money to the Sedgwick Co. medical clinic? Why wasn't that money used for the Lawrence SRS office that they HAD to close? Why couldn't they just down size it, instead of cutting it out entirely? If it was a matter of housing the office, why couldn't they put it in one of the schools that the city closed down? Brownback the road that goes from Lawrence, the 4 way highways, go just as well from Topeka to Lawrence. Bright Boy! His "reason" sticks. Call the governor at 1-800-748-4408 and tell him that you think it's wrong that the Lawrence office should be closed. Unless we ALL do this together as Topeka did to keep KNI open, it WILL close. It's NOT a done deal, if we all protest!
Brownback has been far worse than even I had anticipated.
He reminds me of a Catholic who is indifferent to the poor, hostile to the oppressed, abusive of children, yet believes his ticket is all punched because he gets his abortion and homosexual politics right.
In short, he skips over the crystal clear parts of the Bible in order to focus on an imaginary extrapolation of what Jesus never commented upon.
What a surprise awaits him on Judgment Day!
Being Catholic has nothing to do with it. Just this Catholic.
lol 75% F
Of course, we better not complain too loudly or we will end up in one of those camps. BB may just use his power to have a wall built to contain the free-thinkers of Lawrence. However, if someone tells you to come in for a numbered tatoo, RUN & FAST!!!
I give Brownback the same grade I give Obama.
What has he done, except scared the crap out of state employees by trying to cut their pay, and his work on abortion and marriage. Otherwise he really has done nothing. OK, maybe nothing about jobs and nothing positive.
Oh yeah, and the arts commission, and the SRS, and ...
But he gave Koch Industries a tax break to be reimbursed for state sales tax and the remainder of the other sales taxes if a capital project is done in Wichita. (see High Performance Incentive Program (HPIP)).
Negatives - too much time on social issues and reliance on out of state hacks
Positives - focus on jobs and helping KS businesses
I give him a D- at this point. I like that he is having meetings related to economic issues and environmental issues. Now if he is listening and changing his opinions given new information that is another matter. I don't like the social issue focus-I think that has weakened his effectiveness. He hasn't been caught doing any felonies...yet so that is good, but his term is early.
I give myself a failing grade because I did not expect this level of incompetence. There is still time for improvement however.
I've seen enough.
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