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Do you think cable barriers should be installed in the median on Kansas Highway 10?

Response Percent Votes
Yes
 
79% 1323
No
 
14% 244
I’m not sure
 
5% 90
Total 1657

Comments

bobberboy 2 years, 11 months ago

only if the eudorans want to pay for it.

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JerryStubbs 2 years, 12 months ago

Crossover accidents are probably in a little different class than many other accidents caused by careless driving.

Who could believe that somebody could drive so far off as to cross a 34 ft median and still keep going, unless they were completely out of it, as in asleep, or passed out?

On a two lane road you could easily cross the line just from drunk weaving, or momentary disattention like when you drop something, or maybe texting, but the wide median on a four lane road gives you quite a bit of time to correct somehow before you are on the other side of the road.

Most people that leave the pavement do manage to get back on or stop without causing major damage. Those rumble strips help quite a bit in these cases.

But if you lose consciousness for any reason, and you keep your foot on the gas even after you leave the pavement, you could end up on the other side of the road at full speed going the wrong way.

Even if you were going 55, even if you locked your cell phone in the glovebox, even if you just passed your driving test with flying colors.

Cable barriers have been shown to be good but not perfect protection against crossover accidents and they are less costly than concrete barriers. There are reasons they aren't used everywhere.

Some medians aren't the right width or type, and less costly isn't free, so the DOT has these things to consider when they make their decisions about where to put them.

I don't think K-10 has as much heavy truck traffic as I-70, for example, and that might be something else they consider.

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jayhawklawrence 2 years, 12 months ago

If you don't attack the source of the problem, you will probably go broke trying to put bandaids on the symptoms.

There is a problem in this country about how we address problems which has led us to misuse tax dollars. That is why we are going broke and not fixing anything.

We have a government that is just fighting for money for their constituencies and it is not something to be very proud of.

Next time we hold out our hand for a freebie maybe we should think about the real cost down the road.

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jayhawklawrence 2 years, 12 months ago

A cable divider won't change bad behavior.

It will just use up valuable resources that should be used somewhere else.

I would rather hire more law enforcement and start giving out more tickets to reckless drivers and speeders. Make a statement that this will no longer be tolerated.

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milkman_dan 2 years, 12 months ago

Super magnets that stop the cars in their tracks half way across the median. Only the police and God can turn them off.

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kansanbygrace 3 years ago

Gotta agree with Thuja. I drive US 59/169 a few times a week, K-10 a little less often. K-10 is much more threatening from very fast traffic and following far too close, cutting very close when changing lanes and distracted drivers. Also many of the drivers are very inexperienced, as evidenced by their inept driving. I think the KHP should enforce the speed limit, not 10 over; and following distance on K-10 and jail the people paying more attention to the device in their hand than to their driving.

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thuja 3 years ago

How many roads are two-lane with speed limits of 65mph, and a yellow line is all that is in between you and the oncoming traffic?

The road isn't dangerous, its the drivers.
No amount of barriers will protect you from that.

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JerryStubbs 3 years ago

I think those "always on" headlights aren't such a bad idea after all.

It looks like it could be a good idea to keep an eye on oncoming traffic,too, even on a four lane road.

Isn't there a little more danger from deer crossing this time of year?

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George_Braziller 3 years ago

I avoid K-10 whenever possible because there are too many idiot speed demons with a cell phone in their hand. Last time I was on it a guy driving a black BMW zipped around me so fast I never even saw him in my rear view mirror. I was driving 75 and he was just a blur.

He had to have been running about 95 mph.

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Randall Barnes 3 years ago

over the last several years i have done a study on my life and why things happen.for example i cant find my keys for about 5 minutes.halfway across town i see a bad accident. later on i found out that it happened 5 minutes earlier.my boss ask me to stay over and finish a project. dang it i couldn't make it to the golf course. well guess what the guy on the next hole where my friends were and where i should have been got struck by lightning.so do your own study and see if you want death traps or life savers. park your car on the tracks get hit by a train. will you live or die ? drive a day with or without your seatbelt will you live or die ?

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somedude20 3 years ago

Look around next time you are stopped at a light and realize that many people driving around you are high on prescription narcotics. Just because a doc writes an Rx for narcs does not mean that it is legal to drive while taking them. I see patients all the time who drive to be seen ny their doc while hopped up on some kind narc. People always talk about driving while high on pot, just think about what pain pills and narcs can do to your motor skills. Food for thought, now eat your pill!

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sierraclub 3 years ago

K-10 was just not built correctly. Put a 1/2 mile between the East and West bound lanes. You could have natures growth take care of the crossover vehicles. Plenty of room for a car, truck, semi, or motorcycle to slide off the room. Many highways have large growth between lanes.

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Richard Heckler 3 years ago

Will cables stop a speeding vehicle? A speeding 18 wheeler?

I say a nice hedge row of Osage Orange is much stronger. Very tough wood.

Trees would cost no money. Trees can take care of themselves. Other states allow natural growth.

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nut_case 3 years ago

I think it would be much more effective to require a more stringent test for a drivers license. We can spend countless billions trying to make the highways idiot proof and still not succeed, or take the relatively free approach of requiring a true 'drivers test' every few years where idiots are screened out of actually having licenses. Wonder which one we'll choose?

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distant_voice 3 years ago

No, since most accidents on Hwy. 10 have occurred around the East Hills Business Park, I vote that they stop listening to murderous environmentalists and other thoughtless idiots and build the extension around the south side of Lawrence so we reduce traffic and save lives.

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Tony Kisner 3 years ago

No! They should remove all the lane markings as well.

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Eride 3 years ago

I thought the reason why we don't stick cable medians everywhere is because they are very dangerous for any car that hits them and therefore they aren't used unless there is a severe danger of head-on collisions.

While what just happened is a tragedy... that road hardly suffers enough head-on collisions to justify placing more people at risk.

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catfishturkeyhunter 3 years ago

concrete dividers with spikes sticking out

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FSHSchamp2012 3 years ago

What's wrong with damn metal gaurd rails or those water filled tubs

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Andreas Moeller 3 years ago

cable barriers are death traps for motorcyclists. Even a simple slip-and-slide can cost you limbs or your life. If they want to install barriers, have them motorcyclist safe. Various European countries know how to do this and have had the studies to show the danger of cables for decades. Just my opinion...

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letsgiterdone 3 years ago

Exactly!!! Something needs to be done with people who drive and don't have a liscense to do so. His (liscense) was taken away for a reason. Someone needs to be held accountable. Was that car his or someone else's?

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hujiko 3 years ago

No. The majority of the median crossovers do not end in head-on collisions, by installing cable barriers one would only increase the amount of injuries/damages done.

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JackRipper 3 years ago

Not until we change what it takes to have a license.

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jhawkinsf 3 years ago

I voted for trees yesterday. Then others made good arguments why trees are a bad idea. So, today I'm not sure. Ask me again tomorrow.

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