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the LPD could or would not answer when our neighborhood thought there was robbers working our neighborhood, they stated they did not collect statistics by area and did not report any patterns to citizens. I guess they didn't want to communicate with the community, they felt to do so was to relinquish power. Th LPD should work closer with the community, it would make the community safer and the the police more effective. The LPD should get over the us versus them mentality. We are all in it together.
The Wichita P.D. has an emphasis on community policing. I suggested more of a connect with the Lawrence P.D. and the public. They didn't seem to appreciate that suggestion. They do some stuff with schools which is nice, but not a whole lot else. They seem to prefer an "us and them" atmosphere. I've been able to work with beat officers in Wichita to combat crime in my Grandfather's neighborhood and it worked great-they shut down a crack-house next door. They don't really even like to give out directions here.
Years ago, Dateline did a segment where they suggested that a person call the police station and ask about crime in a particular area before moving into it. I thought that was a good idea and actually tried to do that. After the officer asked me what color I was, he then informed me that he could not tell me any specific place because they could get sued by an apartment owner if they said anything negative. So, if what the police officer said was correct, the only information we would get is of a general nature and something we could probably get just by asking around. So, I'm not sure a mapping service would be of any real help.
Maps provide facts.
true, but the map might not provide vital information as to what kind of crime it was (did someone drive a bike through a yard or strangle someone with a bike tube?) or when it occurred. Some areas have been cleaned up, while others have gone from nice to crappy, depending on the population shift, etc etc. So even though it shows that a crime occurred there, it might not give important details.
Then we have the Lawrence Journal World that won't print the Crime or court news in this town unless it benefits them financially!
They have a reason for that, but evidently Mangement doesn't deem it necessary to share with the rest of us. As I recall, they used to publish that info, but seems to me something happened like a suicide because of bogus charges being filed, or ...?
I don't understand how it would benefit LJW financially not to provide that info?
I can't believe all of you are really this dense. CRIME DOESN'T HAPPEN IN LAWRENCE! Therefore, why would we waste anybody's time generating a crime map?
What happened to innocent until proven guilty? If a map service is to be provided, to which I am against, it should not be handled by Police, but rather by the DA or City Prosecutor's Office who then should post those convicted of a crime.
But then we get into the sticky situation of what is a crime of public importance, or what crimes should be mapped; the suggestion of a crime map is highly subjective.
What a good little Jayhawk lawyer wanna be. Always take the side of the poor, oppressed-by-the-system, product of the Bush administration, disadvantaged, put down criminal - oops, make that alleged criminal.
Just a point, if you call the police and tell them someone came on your porch, yard, living room, shed, etc. and took your tool box, do you think you have reported a crime. Well humorously you haven't, unless you ask for a report number. , The police do not consider those phone calls as reporting a crime. It is more like a chat to uninterested parties by crybabies.. If you wish for the crime to be real, then insist on a report number. Be ready for rude and aggressive remarks about how the police don't care , don't want to care, and won't do anything about your theft. They say, we have important things to do. There should be a theft division in the LPD , maybe we could combine the international swat team with fighting theft. It would get them more field experience and might even get the attention of the burgler rings working (with confidence in) our town.
Taken right off of the police department's website...
Click on the Neighborhhod Maps> Click on what part of the city you would like to review> whalla, there are your statistics
lol...if they have it, why are we discussing this?
many many police incidents do not show up in ljworld at all!
plus noted above ljworld often doesn't cover some crimes or report some of the crie info.
I've thought for many years that ljworld maybe is doing this for a reason:
this is a college town. often out-oftown parents, family members, and students themselves look at the local paper to get a feel for the city.
ljworld wants to put up a happy-face for these folks. they kinda soft-pedal so crime risk looks better than it actually is in lawrence.
I agree that a crime map would be a good idea with some reservations.
Py [I'm actually agreeing--gasp!] has it right about some of the issues.
also, many crimes get onto such a map in their proper location, but many other types of crimes don't such as white-collar/financial crimes and identity theft crimes.
do you map locations of crime, locations of arrest or locations of the perps' residences? or, all three?
then, in your map, how do you distinguish purse snatching from first degree murder? and don't say "color code" because there ain't enough colors available!
Citizens Review board maybe ?
Excellent online tool here in Vegas by LVMPD, but maybe a bit more practical given our size and the variety tomfoolery that occurs here. Pretty high rate of crime here, but frankly it's often about opportunity and random occurrences, so I've never considered myself absolutely safe; even in the 'burbs. Hot spots do exist though...
Some areas in Lawrence may have higher rates of crime, but dang, it seems like I'm still seeing random acts of trouble-makin' all over your fair city when I log onto the LJ-dub. Be safe folks!
Or they could put the higher tax crap districts on the crime map....... In my opinion, it is a crime to "over charge" on sales tax.
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