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What are the chances of President Barack Obama coming to Kansas in 2011 to commemorate the state’s 150th anniversary and the 150th anniversary of the start of the Civil War?

Response Percent Votes
Not a chance
 
53% 604
It could happen
 
37% 425
Outstanding
 
6% 77
Not sure
 
2% 33
Total 1139

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corduroypants 4 years, 3 months ago

Ricky_Vaughn (Anonymous) says… I'd be honored to have any POTUS in Lawrence.

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Finally, some sanity in this POS thread.

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pace 4 years, 3 months ago

Leedavid's assertion that the only racism involved in people's attitude toward Obama are black persons. Oh my god, then someone else comes on and says prove to me there is racism in Lawrence. Should we tell him/her what time it happened, to hear that was in the past. What are we having a troll picnic. Leedavid, picked up one out of my many remarks about how we should honor the office and why some people are so eager to disrespect an elected President. Then he acts for some unknown reason the remark was somehow personal, all about his feelings. The denial of racism is to me like the holocaust deniers. Just goof ball rhetoric.

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dani36921 4 years, 3 months ago

Racist town? Explain...........

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rabbit 4 years, 3 months ago

Why would he want to come to this racist town

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leedavid 4 years, 3 months ago

Darn I did it again.... I see Pace and read Porch. That is twice I've done it. I apologize.

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rantor 4 years, 3 months ago

I heard we're competing with Plains Georgia and they've already hung up a welcome sign. I'll bet Jimmy Carter hung it himself right after he painted swastikas on they synagogue.

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stlcards515 4 years, 3 months ago

Funniest joke I've heard in a while. From Late Night w/ Jimmy Fallon.

President Obama went and saw Avatar last weekend. When asked about it he said, "It's good to see something actually live up to it's hype."

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KS 4 years, 3 months ago

I don't like his white side either. He is of mixed race. Not just black or white.

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leedavid 4 years, 3 months ago

Porch of course for some race is an issue. I am aware of African Americans having an issue with President Obama over race.

Bush left a mess and Obama doubled it. We are not on the right track that is for sure. How many states are almost bankrupt now? What is the unemployment rate again? How many home foreclosures? How about that Afghanistan? National security is not looking so good either. But he has a plan....conditional unconditional talks. All 57 states will be involved. LOL!

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SirReal 4 years, 3 months ago

One comment for most of these comments...'Kansas...as bigoted as you think..' The fact that everything here is named 'freestate' is total bs... It should be called, redneck state,.. and the sad thing is most people here would like that...

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mr_right_wing 4 years, 3 months ago

Just imagine if anyone on Mass St. could stop by and put their 'information' in an 'encyclopedia' for everyone to use. Anybody. Anonymously.

That's basically what 'wikipedia' is, in a electronic form.

Very little to no credibility. At best, look upon it as a source of entertainment.

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pace 4 years, 3 months ago

Leedavid, you seem to feel able to answer rather or not racism is part of some people's attitude and disrespect of the President. Sorry if you, for some reason, thought the remark was specific about you. Now you are talking about rather someone thinks you are racist and how you aren't. Well good for you. How interesting. Discussing racism is not "playing the race card" Do you really think racism does not effect some people's attitude to Obama? Racism is not why I respect the man, and if we believe you, it is not why you have issues with him.
I love this country and while I don't love politicians, I appreciate the political process and respect it. It would be an honor to have President Obama visit us. He probably shouldn't take the time as he has so much work from the horrible mess Bush left us.

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texburgh 4 years, 3 months ago

Here's what's wrong with so much of the discussion here and all over the LJW: leedavid relies on Wikipedia for his history lessons. The dumbing down of America. May God save us all.

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dmkansas 4 years, 3 months ago

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leedavid 4 years, 3 months ago

Porch:

"When did I say that you didn't like Obama because he was black? I don't remember any such thing."

Whoops I am sorry...I was going off of Pace's comments...I apologize.

Pace: "Carter was right, a lot of the Obama hatred is based in racism."

It is easy to play the race card. I assure you I for one would feel the same if he were white.

I must say I did appreciate Obama's comments this afternoon. Not so much Hillary's but Obama's were right on track.

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Flap Doodle 4 years, 3 months ago

I've lost track. How many Godwin flags in the thread so far?

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porch_person 4 years, 3 months ago

When did I say that you didn't like Obama because he was black? I don't remember any such thing.

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KS 4 years, 3 months ago

The last thing we need to spend our hard earned money on is BO using Air Force One to fly to Kansas. Stay home, BO.

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leedavid 4 years, 3 months ago

I appreciate the education. I don't know Kansas history until I read the articles cited above. Given that information, if I were Obama I would come to this area for the celebration and recognition. It would be a good fit. I was mistaken.

Porch, please don't simplify all of us on the right with hatred for Obama because he was black. If he was conservative I would have voted for him. I have always stated what objections I have for him and it isn't because he was black. I did not support Clinton much, some but not much. Did I hate him because he was white? I think President Carter was the worst president ever, was it because he was white? Nope...it was the inflation, interest rates, unemployment, and his world affairs. Obama can fix the economy, pull out of Afghanistan, beef up national security and I would like him a lot.

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jimjones 4 years, 3 months ago

jimmyjms, YOU speaking about ignorance is both hilarious and ironic.

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porch_person 4 years, 3 months ago

Liberty275,

Next time I run Bush through the ringer again, I'll make sure to use other sources, just to make you happy.

(laughter)

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pace 4 years, 3 months ago

The wingnuts are confused, everytime anyone shows respect for the President, they act like it must be a religious experience. They have been mixing their religion with governance too much. Not a good mix for a country of freedom. They continually say that Obama isn't a miracle worker. I suppose repairing this country after the Bush years, seems like a miracle. The miracle is it will take this country working together to improve matters. It takes action, not doing nothing hate mongering I know that love is something wing nuts are uncomfortable with but I love this country. I respect this President. It is time to do something, rather than hide behind hate and fear. It would be an honor for President Obama to visit our town. I would guess he is going to be busy, he has a lot on his plate and Kansas isn't one of the helping hands. If you don't respect the elected president enough to understand a visit from him is an honor, go somewhere where votes don't count. I didn't like Bush but I sure didn't act like he wasn't the President. Carter was right, a lot of the Obama hatred is based in racism.

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jimmyjms 4 years, 3 months ago

"As for teaparties, they are merely people expressing their opinion"

Indeed. Racist, ignorant and just plain stupid opinion.

Seriously, have you seen these people? It's one thing to disagree with a political party. It's another thing entirely to be so ignorant of the actual facts of a given situation as to contradict your stated position with a secondary stated position (i.e. "Keep your government hands off my medicare").

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Liberty275 4 years, 3 months ago

Wikipedia is OK for finding out which engine was in a 280z, it is horrendous for anything that people disagree about because the moderators have a distinct political bent.

As for teaparties, they are merely people expressing their opinion, not unlike the leftwingers that used to protest war before their guy became commander in chief. Whether the opinions are right or wrong, it is patriotic to lawfully exercise first amendment rights. Use it or lose it.

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Shane Garrett 4 years, 3 months ago

Are you historians forgetting about the industrial north vs. the agricultural south theory? I agree withThe Kansas-Nebraska Act was one of the biggest motivators for the South to make its declaration.

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porch_person 4 years, 3 months ago

2002.

I do it all the time but I don't use anything from wikipedia that I don't confirm by going to the citations at the bottom and reading them as well. Wikipedia is a fabulous tool.

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2002 4 years, 3 months ago

What kind of dope goes to Wikipedia for historical accuracy?

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porch_person 4 years, 3 months ago

overthemoon is quite correct.

Pointing out that the "teabaggers" / "tea partiers" / whatever are "mistaken" is not "putting down dissent".

You have a right to say something. You don't have a right to have people withhold their derision, especially when you can't even get the name of your movement right the first time.

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Flap Doodle 4 years, 3 months ago

BTW, your hyperbole appeals to my prurient interests, overthemoon. Tell me more.

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Flap Doodle 4 years, 3 months ago

Two chances: Jack Jack left town

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overthemoon 4 years, 3 months ago

Dissent is part of our patriotic heritage.

Stupidity and total disassociation with reality is not. The entire 'teabagger' movement is based on falsehoods, wild and dangerous misconceptions and outright lies. Go there if you want, but if this country becomes a fascist theocracy, you have only yourselves to blame.

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Flap Doodle 4 years, 3 months ago

It's darned amusing to see who is picking up the "love it or leave it" business now. {laughter} Isn't dissent patriotic any more?

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jimmyjms 4 years, 3 months ago

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dani36921 4 years, 3 months ago

Okay people. The Civil War began due to the southern states' secessions. They seceded due to Lincoln becoming president among other things. They disagreed with all he stood for. The Kansas-Nebraska Act is what led up to the presidential election of 1860. This made both Kansas and Nebraska dependent upon the residents in the territories to decide their fate (slave or free) therefore conflicting with the Missouri Compromise. This angered Southerners and caused Bleeding Kansas. Northerners and Southerners raced to Kansas to fight for which state it shall become. It was the first violent sectional conflict between the nation's two clear parties and may be led to some states seceding, but it was not the only cause. It was a cause, but not the only one...

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mr_right_wing 4 years, 3 months ago

I'm going to change my vote; it would be strangely appropriate for him to visit...after all, he's most likely the one to start our next civil war...

overbearing, bloated government v. fed-up, at our wits end, unappreciated, oppressed taxpayer. (Gee...kinda sounds like the revolutionary war, doesn't it? Huh. Revolutionary War II?)

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edjayhawk 4 years, 3 months ago

We aren't a free state. We are all slaves under Republican so-called leadership and a Nazi Governor soon.

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Kirk Larson 4 years, 3 months ago

leedavid- Google "bleeding Kansas" and read up on your history. They were fighting here long before Ft Sumter.

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Ricky_Vaughn 4 years, 3 months ago

I'd be honored to have any POTUS in Lawrence.

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JohnBrown 4 years, 3 months ago

Leedavid, The first cannon fired to defend slavery was fired right here in Lawrence by Sheriff Jones, a Missourian who brought some ruffians with him to help quell the abolutionists (who, by the way settled Lawrence).

In 1856, on May 21, Henry Pate, along with a posse of 750 pro-slavery forces sacked Lawrence, wrecked the Free State Hotel, and destroyed 2 printing presses (throwing the lead type in the river). On June 2, John Brown attacked Pate and his forces near Baldwin, Kansas and won the battle, capturing Pate and some of his men. This became know as the Battle of Blackjack, and is recognized by some historians as the beginning of fighting for the Civil War.

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fearsadness14 4 years, 3 months ago

@LeeDavid: Ever heard of the Battle of Black Jack? Yeah, the one in near Baldwin, Kansas, in 1856? Yeah, the one that is thought to be the first clash of pro and anti slavery forces! That's right, that did happen in Kansas! And before Sumter was even completed!

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HOMETOWNBOY 4 years, 3 months ago

Hey Liberty275, you are figuring it all out.

Politician = Used Car Salesman

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Liberty275 4 years, 3 months ago

I've heard obama speak on CSPAN, and I think most of what comes out of his mouth is similar to what comes out of a used car salesman's mouth. Why would I want to listen to a used car salesman in person?

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HOMETOWNBOY 4 years, 3 months ago

Hey leedavid, maybe you should brush up on your Kansas history!

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Ralph Reed 4 years, 3 months ago

He's the President. Why don't you want to hear him speak?

I probably disagreed with many of President Bush's actions, but I would have wanted to hear him speak also.

@ArUNorml: Your 0752 unfortunately points to a general inability to listen to what someone has to say even if you don't like it. You then refute what was said if you disagree, not just shout the person down. This applies to most people on both sides of the fence; not just many posters on the LJW, but nation-wide.

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nbnozzy 4 years, 3 months ago

Do we have any prizes or gifts to give to Obama? Maybe some leftover "Land of Ahs" bumper stickers? Gotta be something in it for his ego.

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CWGOKU 4 years, 3 months ago

Slow day at the Journal World?! Lame question.

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BABBOY 4 years, 3 months ago

How the heck should I know?

More to the point, how the heck would any of the above know?

I am sure KU-cynic will tell ya he knows. Since the little -rick thinks he can predict the future.

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KU_cynic 4 years, 3 months ago

After the 2010 elections Kansas will have a Republican governor and and all-Republican congressational delegation. Maybe the Democratic Attorney General will hang on to his job, but that might be it.

Might see Mitt Romney hanging around Kansas in 2011, though.

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Melanie Birge 4 years, 3 months ago

honeychild (Mel Briscoe) says…

i hope he shows. this is his maternal homeland, after all

I agree with this.

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ralphralph 4 years, 3 months ago

I don't believe the Kansas electors scratched his back, and he's not about to scratch theirs.

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The_Original_Bob 4 years, 3 months ago

"Are the large majority of people who read the LJW idiot?" Hometownboy.

Reposted for awesomeness.

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Mel Briscoe 4 years, 3 months ago

i hope he shows. this is his maternal homeland, after all.

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leedavid 4 years, 3 months ago

Homnetownboy...

"Oh let's think about this one. Kansas being admitted to the Union was pretty much the opening kickoff to the Civil War."

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American...

"In the presidential election of 1860, the Republican Party, led by Abraham Lincoln, had campaigned against the expansion of slavery beyond the states in which it already existed. The Republican victory in that election resulted in seven Southern states declaring their secession from the Union even before Lincoln took office on March 4, 1861. Both the outgoing and incoming US administrations rejected the legality of secession, considering it rebellion.

Hostilities began on April 12, 1861, when Confederate forces attacked a US military installation at Fort Sumter in South Carolina."

I don't see Kansas any where in that discussion. Kansas played a great role in the battle against slavery, true, but to say we had anything major to do with the start of the war....well I just don't see it.

There are many other places for Obama to speak about the war against slavery and they prices they paid then our state. (should it be then or than? I always mess that up)

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Stuart Evans 4 years, 3 months ago

I hope he does come. I will be exercising my rights to assembly and free speech. loudly.

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HOMETOWNBOY 4 years, 3 months ago

Oh let's think about this one. Kansas being admitted to the Union was pretty much the opening kickoff to the Civil War. The Civil War put an end to slavery. What are the chance an African American President would agree to speak at such a celibration? Are the large majority of people who read the LJW idiot? DUH!

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hujiko 4 years, 3 months ago

Sesquicentennial Point would be a nightmare logistically, why not utilize a more appropriate venue such as Memorial Stadium?

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jayhawklawrence 4 years, 3 months ago

I like the idea of Obama coming to Kansas for this event but I think he needs to visit Wichita and do a sales pitch for the small private plane industry. They need all the help they can get after getting a bad rap last year.

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cheeseburger 4 years, 3 months ago

mrw - I like your option better than the ones offered!

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mr_right_wing 4 years, 3 months ago

Where's the option "Please, no! Stay away! You're not welcome here! Go away!"

I hope that doesn't offend too many of you who will be willing to get down on hand and knee to kiss the very holy ground your obamassiah walks on. (Excuse me now while I go puke.)

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