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Letter to the editor: Propaganda

July 30, 2017


To the editor:

Kris Kobach, the self-described impartial investigator into national election fraud, says it cannot be determined whether Hillary Clinton actually won the popular vote. If that is true, then it cannot be determined whether Trump was lawfully elected president. If there is doubt about the Clinton vote, it necessarily follows there is doubt about the Trump vote.

In addition, if the legitimacy of Clinton’s popular vote victory and Trump’s election cannot be determined, what is the point of the new federal voting fraud commission? After all, Kobach and others have never produced or found any evidence to show widespread voter fraud. The answer is obvious: More voting fraud propaganda to support the creation of more restrictions on voters.


Larry Sturm 8 months, 3 weeks ago

If Kobach wants to work for the mental ill president he needs to resign his post in the state of Kansas.

Steve Jacob 8 months, 3 weeks ago

Good letter. I always point out the voter fraud cry would be much much worse had Clinton won. Every state has a person responsible for voting fraud and they do their best to uphold the law. I just don't see thousands of people, mostly illegal aliens, going to the polling place, giving them a fake name that's on the list, and voting. These are the same people that don't report crimes committed against them for fear of deportation.

Steve Hicks 8 months, 3 weeks ago

MANY thanks, Mark, for pointing out how Kobach's own weasling lies bite him in the a55 !! Few things are more satisfying than seeing a pious horse-thief hung with his own rope.

Scott Burkhart 8 months, 2 weeks ago

If you remove Los Angeles County and New York City from the popular vote, President Donald J Trump won the popular vote. The problem with determining the validity of Hilliary Clinton's votes is because they occurred in districts where voter fraud is covered up and not reported. i.e. Los Angeles County and New York City. With the motor voter registrations in California, there is no way to prevent illegal immigrants (yes I said illegal) from voting.

Greg Cooper 8 months, 2 weeks ago

"The problem with determining the validity of Hilliary Clinton's votes is because they occurred in districts where voter fraud is covered up and not reported." And you know What credible sources give you that idea?

David Reynolds 8 months, 2 weeks ago

The whole objective of trying to determine if there was voter fraud is to clean up the voter rolls. After all, regardless of any other right granted by the constitution, voting is on the top of the list. it is the only place where ones voice is heard.

Judicial Watch, working with the Election Integrity Project, recently uncovered an interesting situation in California, wherein 11 counties had more voters registered to vote than citizens of voting age. The study alleges that the state may be out of compliance with Section 8 of the National Voter Registration Act (NVRA). Please see the web site below & I have included the percentages for the readers convenience.

"Judicial Watch lays out the specifics: “[T]here were more total registered voters than there were adults over the age of 18 living in each of the following eleven (11) counties: Imperial (102%), Lassen (102%), Los Angeles (112%), Monterey (104%), San Diego (138%), San Francisco (114%), San Mateo (111%), Santa Cruz (109%), Solano (111%), Stanislaus (102%), and Yolo (110%).” The letter notes that the percentage in L.A. Country may be as high as 144%."

Given the large population centers involved, there is significant possibility of voter fraud, which can have a major impact on election results.

Now, I am not saying all of those extra folks voted. I am just saying the potential is ripe for fraudulent voting. This should be a major concern for all of us seeking honesty and integrity in our voting process.

Folks can continue to excoriate Kobach & the election review process, but the facts are, there are real problems with with our state voter registration roles. In my humble opinion, if there are folks with an agenda & willing to "bend the rules", then we have a voter fraud problem.

Kobach is trying to fix this problem.

Now the question is what is the real complaint about with Kobach & the committee looking at voter fraud?

Maybe the real problem is Kobach & the committee might uncover the seriousness of the voter registration problem & then the election process will be honest again, with no EXTRA ADVANTAGE going to either party, and some folks can't stand that.

Greg Cooper 8 months, 2 weeks ago

If you really believe that K is only trying to make the election process "honest again", then you can explain why he has identified and processed less than ten "fraudulent" cases in Kansas, ALL of which have concerned Republican-registered voters. And maybe you can explain why he is so reticent in disclosing the documents he presented to Chump in Washington, documents purporting to explain and expand on the massive voter fraud experienced in the last presidential election, which resulted in his losing the popular vote (and I'm not arguing the legality of his winning the electoral vote: it's over, it's done ad he won).

The point is that there is so little actual, proven voter fraud that is is unnecessary and unworkable to spend the time ad money it would take to change the laws. Plus, we already have laws addressing the subject, and penalties to be assessed if and when it is actually found.

Bob Summers 8 months, 2 weeks ago

There is no voter fraud because the Liberals said the Russians got Trump elected.

David Reynolds 8 months, 2 weeks ago

Greg, it may be possible voter registration & voting in Kansas is under control.

As I mentioned above, that is not the case everywhere.

Regarding the documents, what's the big deal any way? So he had some talking what. What makes you believe you have a right to everything he says? Please explain the specific problem?

As Judicial Watch has proven, if all the states cooperated with the President's voter fraud commission, we would know the true story and then we wouldn't have this hysteria.

Paul Beyer 8 months, 2 weeks ago

The true story is,the commission and little "krissy" are trying to solve a non-existent problem. There is no wide spread voter fraud, except in their wildest "wet dreams".

Michael Kort 8 months, 2 weeks ago

Dictators do what ?

They always turn on their own supporters and Kobach is going to get a rude awakening when he fails to prove that Trump won the popular vote ,

Every time that trump turns around he is mad at somebody who previously helped him to arrive to the Presidency .

David Reynolds 8 months, 2 weeks ago

Paul, I believe your view of the world is myopic. If you really looked around you I am sure you would find areas of grave concern. You can start by looking at the story I referenced above. Additionally if you look at the following story you will start to see the magnitude of the problem with voting in the USA. It would be helpful to be more objective.

The title of the article is: "Leftist Declares ‘Apartheid’ If Noncitizens Not Allowed to Vote".

Key paragraphs read: "As municipalities in deep-blue Maryland continue to grant legal and illegal aliens access to the ballot box, one leftist is pushing for a larger movement to combat the “mass disenfranchisement” of non-U.S. citizens in the Trump era.

College Park, Maryland, home to the main campus for the University of Maryland and roughly 20,000 residents overall, is currently reviewing a policy that would open regular ballot access to illegal aliens for municipal elections. While the town would be the largest to do so in the Mid-Atlantic, it would not be the first. The Baltimore Sun reports that College Park would be the eleventh city between Montgomery and Prince George’s Counties; both sharing boundaries with Washington, D.C."

We now have 2 heavy democratic states with documented voting irregularities.

Does this open any eyes to the reality of the situation?

Steve Hicks 8 months, 2 weeks ago

David, again, Breitbart is a notorious pusher of partisan untruth.

Doesn't the headline of the article you cite above, "Leftist Declares ‘Apartheid’ If Noncitizens Not Allowed to Vote," clue you to that fact ?

Myopia: "a lack of insight or discernment : a narrow view of something..." Seeing reality solely through Breitbart's lens is indeed myopic.

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