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Brownback not rethinking support for concealed guns on Kansas campuses

No guns allowed signs are posted on doors leading into Wescoe Hall on the University of Kansas campus on Monday, Oct. 17, 2016. Jayhawk Boulevard and Strong Hall are reflected in the glass.

No guns allowed signs are posted on doors leading into Wescoe Hall on the University of Kansas campus on Monday, Oct. 17, 2016. Jayhawk Boulevard and Strong Hall are reflected in the glass.

December 21, 2016, 11:16 a.m. Updated December 21, 2016, 1:58 p.m.

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— Republican Gov. Sam Brownback said Wednesday that he's not rethinking his support for a Kansas law that will allow concealed guns on state college campuses starting in July, despite opposition from faculty, students and administrators.

A law enacted by the GOP-controlled Legislature and signed by Brownback in 2013 expanded the rights of gun owners age 21 and older to carry concealed weapons into public buildings. It allowed state universities and community colleges to exempt themselves for four years.

Elections this year made the Legislature less conservative. After lawmakers open their annual session next month, they are expected to debate changing the concealed carry law for college campuses.

"I'm not inclined to think about that," Brownback told reporters after signing proclamations in his office, calling gun ownership "a constitutional right that people have."

The 2013 law allows concealed guns in public buildings unless they have adequate security measures, such as metal detectors or security guards. Those measures are costly, so concealed guns would be allowed in nearly all campus buildings, including at sporting events.

The state Board of Regents last week adopted policies for implementing the law on university campuses. The policies spell out requirements for handling guns while on campus and their storage in dormitories, offices and vehicles.

Faculty and student organizations on university campuses generally have been strongly opposed to concealed guns on campus, as have administrators. Earlier this month, elected representatives of faculty, staff and students at the University of Kansas adopted resolutions opposing the campus concealed carry law.

Joe Harrington, an English professor who is president of the University Senate at the school, called Brownback's comments "disappointing."

"Obviously, this is something that people at the local level, at the campus level, don't want and that's being imposed upon us by the state," Harrington said.

Brownback is a conservative Republican who's repeatedly backed policies favored by the National Rifle Association and other gun-rights groups, including a 2015 law that allows adults to carry concealed weapons without a state permit or mandatory training.

"I'm not rethinking my support for the Second Amendment," Brownback said, referring to the U.S. Constitution.

Comments

Gary Pomeroy 11 months, 4 weeks ago

In order to re-think a position suggests that thought was involved in the first place. Considering who we are talking about that is a mighty supposition.

Paul Beyer 11 months, 4 weeks ago

Nobody has ever accused brownie of thinking.

Greg Cooper 11 months, 4 weeks ago

In other news, Brownkoch is thinking of nothing but his own (bought and paid for) skin.

Chris Anderson 11 months, 4 weeks ago

"I'm not inclined to think about that." -Sam Brownback

Kind of the way he rolls on most issues, isn't it?

Bob Summers 11 months, 4 weeks ago

I love the witty retorts from the congenital Liberals. Brownkoch , Nobody has ever accused brownie of thinking, Kind of the way he rolls on most issues, isn't it?

They remind of antics from the rabble-rouser bullies in grade school.

Thanks for the laugh!!

Greg Cooper 11 months, 4 weeks ago

OK, then, Mr. Summers, why don't you defend the clown and his policies that have brought Kansas to its knees. You know why? Because you can't. Not in any way.

You want to talk reducing spending instead? OK, get with it. You have never put forward any idea at all that made any sense, because you can't. You make "witty repartee" because you can't deny that this governor has been the worst ever.

You, Mr. Summers, exhibit all that is wrong in public discussion: no ideas, no discussion of any reasonable, attainable repair for the state's economic disrepair. Nothing. Nada. Zip. Zilch. If you're so smart, Mr. Summers (and I do believe you have considerable intelligence) prove it. Say something that will add to the discussion rather than sidestep every issue with stupid stuff that does nothing but make you look like what you are: clueless.

Bob Summers 11 months, 4 weeks ago

lol....why don't you defend the clown you're killing me! Stop it....

btw, just a thought. Why should anyone mull over something they have already made their mind up on? Maybe if Alpha Delta Pi gals start gunning down Kappa Sigma guys for hitting on them, Brownback can rethink his decision.

Just because a bunch of Liberals are rabble-rousing him, or giving him the business, is not a reason to rethink.

thanks again for the laugh!

Greg Cooper 11 months, 4 weeks ago

So, no, you have no thoughts as to how to fix it. Thanks.

Bob Summers 11 months, 4 weeks ago

I'm not a Liberal. I have no idea what you all are talking about.

What needs to be fixed?

Greg Cooper 11 months, 4 weeks ago

Your reply, Mr. Summers, is a complete acknowledgement that you haven't a clue. Maybe a bit of education is in order, something that might make you aware of the real situation with the Kansas economy.

But, then, you seem to be against anything that smacks of fact, so never mind.

Joanne Harwick 11 months, 3 weeks ago

sorry. We all know you aren't laughing. Your mind is muddled and you have no sense of humor. For goodness sakes, get a life. You're contributing nothing. Your posts are asinine. Best idea is to go to a corner and scream all day about the wonderfulness of Drumpf. he might invite you to sit in on his cabinet. Plus we wouldn't see you here anymore. Go on - be a dummy for him. It suits you.

Bob Summers 11 months, 3 weeks ago

Thanks for your insightful wisdom. You all with the Liberal genetic condition are the best!

Dustyn Polk 11 months, 3 weeks ago

Now I admit, in advance, that I have never attended a KU sporting event.

I am assuming, however, that there are alcoholic refreshments available for purchase. Said refreshments are clinically proven to reduce a person's inhibitions.

The article states that the concealed weapons will be allowed at sporting events, along with the alcohol.

Given the number of activities that you are not legally allowed to undertake while intoxicated, do you feel that firearms and alcohol are a good mix, especially in an environment that is already prone to heightened emotions?

As I cannot predict the future, I do not know if this combination will prove to be detrimental or not. It is a reasonable assumption that you, Mr. Summers, are also incapable of predicting the future accurately. Since prognostication is not an option, do you feel that it is prudent to allow such a scenario to develop? Until they undertake an illegal action, they are not breaking the law, but it the potential outcome mild enough to warrant such a "wait and see" attitude.

Is it not also true that a firearm being presented, holstered but made apparent, can have a chilling effect on a debate or conversation? Generally, an implied threat of violence is never well received, and any movement towards a weapon can be construed as a threat, since it is the observer that makes that determination, not the actor.

Does that not stifle the exchange of ideas that an institution of higher learning exists to facilitate?

I admit that I am fairly certain of your responses, but I would certainly appreciate being surprised by an articulate, well constructed response. Unfortunately, it is fairly apparent that such discussion is not your preferred manner of communication, so I am quite likely wasting my time.

For the record, I consider a firearm a coward's weapon that is generally not needed, especially in a classroom or sporting event. Then again, if human beings could figure out how to act on a maturity level above that of a starving mongrel, things might not seem so dire that you have to be armed just to feel secure.

Charles L. Bloss, Jr. 11 months, 4 weeks ago

I don't understand the problem. Policies on firearm carry at KU pretty much render it useless for self defense anyway. Liberals should be content with that and get over it.

Bob Smith 11 months, 4 weeks ago

Next up, KU plans to restrict concealed carry firearms to items that qualify for ATF curio and relic status.

Justin Hoffman 11 months, 4 weeks ago

Although a blunderbuss could prove to be an effective weapon in stopping someone wishing to inflict harm on our precious snowflakes.

Paul Beyer 11 months, 4 weeks ago

You can't cure stupid and the gun nuts on this forum continue to prove that fact. Note all the posts above from various "bob's" and the Oklahoma troll.

Bob Summers 11 months, 4 weeks ago

Ahh yes. More witty rejoinders can't cure stupid and gun nuts. One of my favs, "troll*

Thanks Beyer,

You're the best!

Bob Smith 11 months, 3 weeks ago

Now approved for KU campus carry as long as you remove the flint and keep it in your pocket.

Bob Smith 11 months, 3 weeks ago

Approved for KU campus carry as long as the shotgun barrel is loaded with jellybeans.

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