Archive for Wednesday, December 16, 2015

Regents’ guns-on-campus policy will give universities choice on which buildings, events to ban guns from

December 16, 2015, 11:06 a.m. Updated December 16, 2015, 11:32 a.m.


— The Kansas Board of Regents’ proposed new weapons policy will give individual universities the freedom to choose which, if any, buildings or events to prohibit guns from.

However, under state law, doing so would require universities to put in place adequate security measures such as metal detectors or guards at those buildings or events, which could be costly.

“They’re going to have to weigh that,” Regents chairman Shane Bangerter said. “There’s limits, obviously.”

The Regents Governance Committee on Wednesday approved draft amendments to the statewide weapons policy and forwarded them to the full board for a final vote, anticipated in January. Amending the policy is needed to account for changes to state law that require universities to allow concealed carry of guns on campus beginning in July 2017.

The policy will require each university to create policies and procedures “for the safe possession and storage of lawfully possessed handguns.”

Bangerter said the Regents want to see those by June, giving universities a full year to prepare for implementing the policies and undertake any training.

The new draft contains some changes to an earlier draft the Journal-World reported on in early November.

The most notable change is that, under the new draft, universities won’t be required to provide secure gun storage for students, such as at the university police station — a service Kansas and Emporia State universities already offer but other state universities do not.

That requirement was removed because some universities were concerned about liability, said Julene Miller, general counsel for the Regents. Instead, the new draft says:

• Individuals who lawfully possess a concealed gun on campus must keep it on their person or in safe storage at a university-provided facility, at their residence or in their vehicle in a secure storage device that conceals the gun from view.

• For dorm or scholarship hall residents who want to store their guns in their rooms, they must provide their own storage devices that conceal the guns from view and meet minimum industry standards. If a dorm or hall had adequate security measures, however, no guns would be allowed inside and the student would have to store the gun elsewhere.

Other points of the draft policy:

• Each university must determine whether guns will be prohibited in specific buildings or areas and, if so, provide adequate security measures and signage — either permanent or temporary — at entrances. Universities must provide the Regents Governance Committee with a list of these buildings, the rationale for banning guns from them and the security measures in place.

• Universities may implement adequate security measures on a “temporary, as-needed basis.” Those must be outlined in the school’s annual security report to the Regents.

• If adequate security measures are used to prohibit guns in stadiums or other large venues requiring tickets for admission, tickets must state that concealed carry will be prohibited at the event.

• Open-carry of guns is still prohibited on campuses, and no one may display a gun other than to transfer it to storage.

Dorms, where students routinely drink illicitly or come home drunk, and buildings housing volatile materials, such as science labs, have been cited as top concerns by KU faculty, staff and students in recent conversations about campus concealed carry. They’re also especially worried about large crowds at sporting events.

While the law leaves little leeway in most areas, Bangerter said, universities will have a lot of control over individual buildings and events as they come up with policies specific to their respective campuses.

“I think they’ll do a good job of figuring that out,” Bangerter said.

Some faculty, staff and students at KU have said they want to fight the law and attempt to get it overturned, and have urged the KU administration to lobby for that.

Bangerter said, given the overwhelming majority by which the law passed, he does not think that will happen.

“We need to be prepared, we need to have our policies in place,” he said. “If there are (changes to state law), of course we can adjust our policy accordingly.”


Sam Crow 2 years, 6 months ago

And, in other news:

The University of Texas-Arlington was locked down today when an anti gun individual that is paranoid about guns reported “a suspicious white male with a gun in army fatigues”.

After an exhaustive sweep of the area by police, the suspect was apprehended and an all clear was issued.

The suspect was released after being held in custody for 90 minutes because It is not illegal to carry a video camera and tripod.

Tom Thomson 2 years, 6 months ago

I sure hope he didn't have a spool of high capacity film loaded!

Justin Hoffman 2 years, 6 months ago

Sam- That's just the problem with these anti-gun nutcases. Did they have a bad dream where a gun-shaped boogie man was chasing them? Sounds like a lot of them don't even know what a gun looks like. Perhaps instead of firearm training we should mandate a "what a firearm looks like" class. Sheesh.

Brett McCabe 2 years, 6 months ago

The answer? All buildings, all of the time.

On the other hand, people who carry guns (other than military and police) are cowards, so it is good to be able to identify the cowards from a distance.

Bob Smith 2 years, 6 months ago

How uncivil of you, Brett, going straight to personal insults and name-calling because you have no logical case to make.

Brett McCabe 2 years, 6 months ago

It's just an observation of factual occurrences. Literally no one but a coward (Columbine) or a psycho (Sand Bernardino) ever walks around with a gun on. It's a really strange phenomenon.

My experience is that the more/bigger weapons, the smaller the person wearing them. Anyone who straps on a weapon during the day is admitting to himself that he really can't handle situations without weaponry. So, coward would be the G-rated term that I can use here.

Lawrence Freeman 2 years, 6 months ago

So you don't make hate filled comments about other's who don't share your opinion? Nor pat yourself on the back? LOL You have the same level of truth telling as brownback! Do you also bully high school girls?

Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 2 years, 6 months ago

So why else would anyone carry a gun? Sure there are a lot of squirrels and rabbits on campus. But the only thing that I hear from people who want to carry guns all the time, is that they are afraid. They fear crime, which doesn't happen as often as they think it does. They are fearful and want to defend themselves. Someone who doesn't take all the cop shows seriously knows that for the most part, it is very safe, here in Lawrence. Maybe a gun would come in handy if you hang out late at night, but if you are drinking, carrying a gun is kind of stupid. The murders that have happened in Lawrence in the last few years have all been done by non strangers. I have never felt the need to shoot anyone, except maybe my ex husband (just kidding, Karma took care of him).

Lawrence Freeman 2 years, 6 months ago

Same reason I carry a Swiss army knife and women carry condoms. Better to have one and not need it than to need it and not have one.

BTW how is brett going to spot a "coward" from a distance? Open carry is still prohibited. X-ray vision? LOL

Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 2 years, 6 months ago

How do you tell the good guy with a gun from a bad guy with a gun?

Lawrence Freeman 2 years, 6 months ago

In general the bad guy is the one shooting at everything that moves. A good guy will only shoot if necessary and then put his gun away.

Paul Beyer 2 years, 6 months ago

The good guy always wears a flag pin on his lapel. And is singing the national anthem.

Lawrence Freeman 2 years, 6 months ago

I forgot to ask. Are those no longer politically correct now? Or objectionable to some?

Bob Smith 2 years, 6 months ago

You have a very twisted view of the world.

Justin Hoffman 2 years, 6 months ago

Obviously guns make Brett shake in his boots, a really strange phenomenon. Why he is afraid of them is beyond me, perhaps a bad past experience. His comparison of gun carrying civilians and Columbine/San Bernardino show his obvious lack of intelligence on the matter.

Bob Smith 2 years, 6 months ago

I'm more concerned with his expressed inability to distinguish between the subjective opinions he holds and the objective world.

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