Letters to the Editor

Letter: More truth

April 8, 2014


To the editor:

Eric Holder and the government are withholding the truth about the Internal Revenue Service, “Fast and Furious” and Benghazi. How about adding another tragedy to your list that the American people need to know the truth about: the Iraq War, in which thousands of our men and women were killed and many more injured for life.

This all happened because of a bunch of liars: George Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Condi Rice and Colin Powell, who they got to sell this lie to the American people. How many innocent Iraqi people were killed? We will never know. The Bush Administration single-handedly destabilized the Middle East forever. Look at it before we invaded and look at it now.

The Iraq Was was not because of WMD’s. It was because of oil. Ask George and Dick for once in their livers to tell the American people the truth. Please stop talking about the Obama administration lying and not telling the truth unless you first mention the lying administration of all time: the Bush administration.


Ron Holzwarth 4 years, 1 month ago

"The Bush Administration single-handedly destabilized the Middle East forever. Look at it before we invaded and look at it now."

The Middle East was a political mess long before George Bush was born. It would not be an outrageous claim to state that George Bush didn't change anything at all, except to add the involvement of the United States.

I have a quick read here, but it only covers the highlights of the political upheavals in the Middle East, mostly prior to the birth of George Bush.

Clipped from:

History of the Middle East since the beginning of the 20th century: Ottoman Empire – European interference – French and British mandates – independence of Arab countries – creation of the State of Israel – wars in Lebanon and Iraq

Constructed from the ruins of the Ottoman Empire after the First World War, the map of contemporary Arab states in the Middle East resulted from the Great Game played out by the European powers during the 19th century. Victim of international ambitions, but unable to define objectives for its future, the Middle East became vulnerable to conflicts due to its internal difficulties.

Ron Holzwarth 4 years, 1 month ago

Note: George Bush initiated the war in Iraq many centuries after 632 AD.

The following is clipped from Wiki, but it is well sourced:
The historic background of the Sunni–Shia split lies in the schism that occurred when the Islamic prophet Muhammad died in the year 632, leading to a dispute over succession to Muhammad as a caliph of the Islamic community spread across various parts of the world which led to the Battle of Siffin. The dispute intensified greatly after the Battle of Karbala, in which Hussein ibn Ali and his household were killed by the ruling Umayyad Caliph Yazid I, and the outcry for his revenge divided the early Islamic community.

Sectarian violence persists to this day from Pakistan to Yemen and is a major element of friction throughout the Middle East.

Clipped from 'The Washington Post':

The divide between the Sunni and Shiite branches of Islam is both ancient and still highly consequential today. In Syria, a Sunni-majority country dominated by members of a Shiite sect, fighting that began as anti-government has taken on sectarian overtones. That has spilled over to Iraq, which is Shiite-majority and has a predominantly Shiite government but is increasingly troubled by Sunni rebels. And the region's major powers have long pushed sectarian interests, with Shiite-majority Iran on one side and Sunni-majority Saudi Arabia on the other.

Ron Holzwarth 4 years, 1 month ago

Asking a politician to tell the truth is very much like asking Tinkerbell to grant you a wish. It just ain't gonna happen.

Only a statesmen will tell the truth, and will do that all the time. The problem is, telling the truth won't get you elected. That's why we haven't had any statesmen serving in Washington, D.C. for many years.

The reason is that voters almost always vote for candidates that tell them what they want to hear, and give them promises that they don't really intend to keep.

And thus, almost all votes are placed for politicians, and statesmen are for the most part, ignored at the polls.

You might read Winston Churchill's autobiography to get educated on that matter. It was unbelievable that the British public did not reelect him as Prime Minister at the conclusion of World War II, after his leadership during it.

So round and round it goes, and yes, the war in Iraq was all about oil. The voters want cheap gas prices at the pump, and most are blithely unaware that a large part of their taxes that go to Washington, D.C., as well as a lot of additional government debt, are used to support a very large military involvement to secure a constant supply of imported crude oil at a reasonable price. Well, it's a reasonable price if you don't count the cost of the wars. And, I don't mean only the financial cost.

Fortunately, we are reducing our reliance on crude oil, but there's a long road ahead.

Clipped from:

(in 2012)
Net imports accounted for 40% of the petroleum consumed in the United States, the lowest annual average since 1991.

4 years, 1 month ago

Well, I believe that President Obama is telling the truth. Politicians are people who work for the government at the city, county, state and federal levels. They, like us, are the products of their upbringing and the influence of friends and family. Those who are in that line of work lie neither more nor less than those in other jobs.

There has been wars and political unrest in the Middle East for the last five thousand years. In the Old Testament there is a list of quite a few tribes that were living in the area where the Israelite's were headed after leaving Egypt. "Kill them all," said God to Moses. "Kill them all and take the land for I mean you to have it." So Moses told the people and so it was done.


Julius Nolan 4 years, 1 month ago

And that's exactly why I say Israel is the top terrorist country in the world. Stlll today there are far too many who believe in this fairy tale. Look at the settlements and the fundamentalist jews.

Ron Holzwarth 4 years, 1 month ago

Something happened about 3,700 years ago, and you are now blaming living people for it. What exactly were your ancestors doing at the time?

And, the fairy tale of the 10 Commandments? Too many people believe them to be applicable today?

Top terrorist country?
Who started a war of aggression against Mexico and seized California, Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, most of Arizona and Colorado, and parts of Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, and Wyoming?
Who dropped atomic bombs on two civilian cities?
Who has been invading countries on the other side of the world?

Ethnocentrism is a terrible thing, and it's unfortunate that just about the entire human race is infected with it.

Ron Holzwarth 4 years, 1 month ago

It's a bit of a stretch to claim that President Obama is telling the truth. The most that you can reasonably claim is that you believe he is making statements that he believes to be true.

Subjective truth is unknowable, the most that can be known is what can be deduced from the available evidence.

And, your quotations from the Tanakh are not very accurate. You also made the claim that all of the inhabitants were killed, and the Torah does not make that claim.

It is true that the human race was very tribal and violent thousands of years ago, and the tribe of Judea was probably not all that different than others at the time.

When evaluating any historical event, it's necessary to consider it in context.

Ron Holzwarth 4 years, 1 month ago

Whoops! Typo!
"Subjective truth is unknowable," should read:
"Objective truth is unknowable,"

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