Letters to the Editor

Letter: Due process

April 8, 2014


To the editor:

Sunday the Kansas Legislature took advantage of the late hour and the exhaustion factor to keep the erasure of due process for new teachers and the elimination of tenure for experienced teachers in the K-12 education bill.

Voters (parents, teachers, educators including university faculty, students), wake up. We the people must review the votes made by representatives on probation (first term) and representatives with tenure (secure seats). Unlike the teaching profession, recruitment in politics is intended to vacate a seat. Now is the time to run for office and restore good decision making. This is the only way to eradicate a very serious threat to democracy in Kansas.


Dan Eyler 4 years, 1 month ago

Clearly the league of women voters have become seriously political. I hate to upset the league but the reason the legislation passed is because most Kansans don't support teachers unions and the strong arm tactics that became all too common in the past. The only fear I have in the defense of our republic is the fact that this organization has control of our voting booths on election day. Putting the league of women voters in control of the ballot is like putting a coyote in the hen house. Conservatives, libertarians, and the tea party must insist on being at every polling station in the state to be official observers. The league clearly is an arm of the teacher union and can no longer be trusted.

Cille King 4 years, 1 month ago

Dan Eyler - "The only fear I have in the defense of our republic is the fact that this organization has control of our voting booths on election day."

The Secretary of States and County Clerks who run the elections would take issue with you that they aren't in control of our voting booths on election day.

You obviously know nothing about the League of Women Voters. They are a dedicated group of volunteers who encourage informed and active participation in government, works to increase understanding of major public policy issues, and influences public policy through education and advocacy. The League was formed by the same women who fought for decades for women's right to vote. They have republicans, libertarians democrats and independents as members. The League is open to all citizens of age to vote.

We favor inclusion instead of exclusion, facts instead of myths, protections for our environment, fair and open government, health care and opportunities for all.

Richard Heckler 4 years, 1 month ago

--- On July 23, 2003, the Johns Hopkins Information Security Institute reviewed the electronic voting system in Maryland and found that it had security far below even the most minimal security standards.

--- In the IEEE Symposium on Security and Privacy 2004, four top computer scientists from the University of California, Johns Hopkins University, and Rice University similarly critiqued Diebold’s voting system.

--- "We found significant security flaws: voters can trivially cast multiple ballots with no built-in traceability, administrative functions can be performed by regular voters, and the threats posed by insiders such as poll workers, software developers, and janitors is even greater. Based on our analysis of the development environment, including change logs and comments, we believe that an appropriate level of programming discipline for a project such as this was not maintained. In fact, there appears to have been little quality control in the process.

--- "…The model where individual vendors write proprietary code to run our elections appears to be unreliable, and if we do not change the process of designing our voting systems, we will have no confidence that our election results will reflect the will of the electorate."

--- Computers are inherently subject to programming error, equipment malfunction, and malicious tampering. If we are to ensure fair and honest elections, and retain voter confidence in our democratic process, we need to ensure that there are no such questions.

Therefore, it is crucial that any computerized voting system provide a voter-verifiable paper audit trail and that random audits of electronic votes be conducted on Election Day. Paperless electronic voting machines make it impossible to safeguard the integrity of our vote - thereby threatening the very foundation of our democracy.

Paperless Electronic Voting http://votenader.org/issues/political/electoral-reform/#69936

Richard Heckler 4 years, 1 month ago

--- Moreover, the seller of the machines, the Diebold Corporation, is a supplier of money to the republican party. The CEO and top officers of Diebold are major contributors to republican campaigns. A corporation with vested political interests should not have control over the votes of the populace.

--- Voters using any computerized voting machines should immediately report any suspected malfunctions or deficiencies at voting precincts to their Board of Elections. Voters should also urge their legislators to require a voter verified paper ballot trail for random audits and independent recounts. Count every vote!


Richard Heckler 4 years, 1 month ago

Thank you very much Dolores Furtado, president, League of Women Voters of Kansas.

Richard Heckler 4 years, 1 month ago

The Problem with Requiring Proof of Citizenship During the Voter Registration Process By: Stephanie Drahan 04/07/2014

Late last month, a U.S. District Court in Kansas ruled in Kobach v. Election Assistance Commission (EAC) that the states of Kansas and Arizona could require documentary proof of citizenship when applicants use the Federal Voter Registration Form. The League of Women Voters of the United States, along with the Leagues from Kansas and Arizona, had submitted a merits brief to the Court as defendant interveners.

This decision goes against what the U.S. Supreme Court had decided last June when they had upheld the Federal Voter Registration Form in Arizona v. Inter Tribal Council of Arizona (ITCA), a case on the National Voter Registration Act (NVRA). Surprisingly, the judge in Kobach did not follow the roadmap laid out by the Supreme Court to challenge their decision on the NVRA, and instead sought to reopen the question of federal preemption in regards to the Federal Form.

In response to the disappointing decision in Kobach, the League has joined with our voting rights partners and filed an appeal challenging the ruling. While we’re waiting for the appeal to be accepted and heard, we’ve also filed a motion to stay the decision to prevent Kansas and Arizona from requiring documentary proof of citizenship while the courts continue to consider this issue.

The League is represented in this case by the Brennan Center for Justice at NYU School of Law, as well as pro bono counsel Kirkland & Ellis LLP and David G. Seely of the law firm Fleeson, Gooing, Coulson & Kitch, LLC.


Cille King 4 years, 1 month ago

Dan Eyler, Those who support voter ID generally want to suppress citizens voting by making it more difficult. Most voter ID laws are hardest on the young, the old, and the poor. If it was easy, why does Kansas have over 15,000 would-be voters in suspense, and unable to vote. Secretary of State Kobach told the legislature that the process would be "seamless". Nothing has been "seamless" - not the computer system to relay the information, nor the Motors Vehicles Departments cooperation, or the development of drivers license to show citizenship when a person first shows their proof of citizenship. The United States should make voting registration automatic and participation in our democracy a requirement. Why should citizens sit on the sidelines when their future is the issue?

Where in the world did you get the idea that polls are "manned by an organization that clearly supports public unions with government first agendas"? The application for poll workers is on the County Clerk's website:


Please sign up to spend your day at the polls on election day.

Dan Eyler 4 years, 1 month ago

Your arguement about voter I'd is simply leftist, progresive, liberal talking points that don't bear fruit. To suggest the Secretary of State and any other honest American want to surpress voting of American citizens is ridiculous. The old have been around long enough to get proper ID. The poor can get it for free and the youth will assure they have it because they want to drive. But each of these groups are provided an abundants of government resources to do so. If they decide not to this is somehow a conspiracy for voter suppression by those who support liberty. With that said I hope we are supressing 100% of the votes by the millions of Illegals in our nation who have the support of both moderate republican and the democrat party leadership. As for the 15,000 Kansans who can't vote because they have not provided proper documents of citizenship. What is their responsibility to follow the law? That list has been there for not a month or two but for going on years. I will argue that they have used there right, their liberty, their individual freedom to refrain from voting. Its amazing that its more important to you that they vote than it is to those on the list making no effort to remove themselves. I would argue further that its more important to certain groups that the list doesn't go away because of the talking points it creates for these individuals and groups so concerned.

Cille King 4 years, 1 month ago

Voter lists are regularly purged of names of voters who have died, who have moved out of state, and who haven't voted in 2 sequential general elections.

The goal is to get people registered to vote and have them informed on the issues and candidates. We don't want a list of suspended voters.

Cille King 4 years, 1 month ago

"To suggest the Secretary of State and any other honest American want to surpress voting of American citizens is ridiculous."

The Secretary of State has the ability to verify the citizenship of all the voters in suspense. He said so when he said that he would make sure that those who filled out the National Voter application would be verified and cleared to vote in all elections. He could clear up this mess and do that for all.

4 years, 1 month ago

I am confused as to why anyone would think that a poor person or an old person does not have ID. I am sixty-eight and I have a state photo ID card as I do not drive. Along the same line am I the only one who is so sick and tired of every old person being referred to as granny or grandpa on the news? We do have names you know.

Jim Slade 4 years, 1 month ago

Because some seniors and some poor don't have IDs and it is too burdensome, in some cases, to actually get one.

Cille King 4 years, 1 month ago

The 16,000 would-be-voters in suspense in Kansas have not shown "proof of citizenship" = birth certificate, passport, naturalization document, tribal card, etc. "ID" is NOT proof of citizenship and doesn't qualify to register to vote in Kansas.

The "proof of citizenship" requirement in Kansas started in January 2013, less than 16 months ago.

If one doesn't have the required documents to register to vote, it can cost up to $50 for a birth certificate and hundreds of dollars and several months to replace a naturalization document.

ID is required at the polls when one votes. Many families will throw away their elder parents drivers license - to keep their parent(s) from driving - in effect - taking away their ID to vote. Our conversations with the County Clerks office keeps us informed on all these issues.

Sam Crow 4 years, 1 month ago

I remember when the LWV was in education of issues rather than advocacy.

When Furtado took over, it changed. It should be noted the KNEA was the second largest donor to her 2008 campaign.

I wonder what the LWV tax status is?

Steve King 4 years, 1 month ago

The established fraud percentage is several decimal points. Like 6 or 7. That's clearly a problem.

If you think illegals vote you must be smoking something. They are hiding out. They don't want to draw attention to themselves. Like they are going to enter a voting place and face getting caught and deported.

Cille King 4 years, 1 month ago

The League of Women Voters is composed of volunteers. None of our members are paid. The League does not contribute to any candidate or political organization. The few dollars the League gets from memberships or donations help pay for our newsletter, The Voter, and Legislative Reports to be printed and mailed to those members who don't have email and some organizations, room rental for our Brown Bag lectures, printing of voter information, etc.

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