Archive for Friday, October 4, 2013

Letter: Courage lacking

October 4, 2013


To the editor:

Let’s face it. This government shutdown is caused by the 30 to 35 ultra-conservative Republicans in the House who do not want the Affordable Care Act, aka Obamacare, funded and implemented.

That’s it, folks. EVERY new proposal of the House cuts part of a legally passed law by Congress and signed by the president. Then upheld by the Supreme Court. Is it any wonder why these proposals are rejected by the Senate and the president?

As I understand it, a continuing resolution proposed by the House would pass that excludes tampering with established law. To put it mildly, House Speaker John Boehner has no intestinal fortitude to introduce it. No profile in courage he.


Bob Harvey 4 years, 5 months ago

Trust me when I say that I am caught in the middle of this struggle, so please recognize that my question is not based on any partisan politics.

Many have stated that the ACA is a legally passed law and Congress has no legal right to not fund it. However, hasn't the President also gone against this legaly passed law by his delays of parts of it and exemptions from the law to many? How can it be acceptable for one side to change and alter the law but not the otherr?

Also, aren't there many laws on the books that both sides ignore or openly do not enforce? How about our borders?

This old war horse openly admits that sometimes he just doesn't get it.

Cait McKnelly 4 years, 5 months ago

I made a comment addressing this same thing on another thread.
"You forget that every one of those exceptions were passed through Congress and signed by the President into law. He didn't do it willy nilly under his own power. Everyone of those exceptions was to correct a minor problem to keep it from becoming a major one. In at least one instance, it went through a bipartisan committee with the House and the Senate before it went to the floor. In a piece of legislation this big, minor tweaking was bound to be necessary.
If you want to nitpick just so you can blame the President, go right ahead but just understand, he didn't do it alone."

tomatogrower 4 years, 5 months ago

The president has to administer laws. If they run into a glitch, he has the power to make minor changes that don't actually change the law. For example, if it looks like so many people trying to get on the website delays the program, they will probably extend the enrollment deadline. He wouldn't have to go to congress to approve something like that. Of course, it's too soon to make that decision.

Phil Minkin 4 years, 5 months ago

I think " gone against this legally passed law " misstates what the President has done. He has made minor changes(at least one with the agreement of Congress) that affected only a small % of those covered by the bill to make sure it can be implemented more easily. As with any law of this size and scope there will need to be adjustments and changes to make it easier and more accessible, but the Republicans just want to scrap the whole thing instead of offering any suggestions for improving this law.

Kate Rogge 4 years, 5 months ago

It may well take two to tango, Man, but it only takes one dedicated anti-government minority faction to close down our government for everyone. Stop with the false equivalencies already, and own the destructive actions of those who have shut down the U.S. government in protest of a law passed three years ago and upheld by the Supreme Court:

rtwngr 4 years, 5 months ago

The AHCA not withstanding, what about the other laws that President Obama's administration has refused to enforce. Immigration is one. Federal marijuana laws is another. Regardless of where any individual stands on the laws I cited, this president's administration is selective in what it enforces and what it doesn't. Let's talk about this law. Yes it was "legally" passed by both houses of Congress but what about the ethical side of it. The Democrat Party was determined to pass it quickly without the opportunity to debate it or analyze its 2000+ pages. Nancy Pelosi stood up, in front of God and country, and said, "We have to pass it to see what's in it?" ???? Are you serious? Is this responsible government? No, the majority of the American public don't like it and now there is a fight to stop it. Sengpiehl's opinion of what's going on is just that, his opinion.

I want all of you liberals/democrats to remember what went down and how this law passed. You won't be in power forever and us elephants never forget.

jafs 4 years, 5 months ago

I wonder why people continue to misquote Pelosi?

And, why political machinations are fine for "their side" but not for the "other side"?

Also, it seems a bit confused to be upset about not fully implementing the ACA immediately in it's first configuration if somebody doesn't like the law - wouldn't such a person be happy it's not being immediately implemented instead?

jafs 4 years, 5 months ago

She said "We have to pass it so that you can find out what's in it away from the fog of the controversy".

He said "We have to pass it to see what's in it".

Those are different statements, and so his version is a misquote.

Disclaimer - I'm not saying I agree with her, although I understand why she said it, given the massive disinformation campaign that was engaged in by opponents of the legislation.

buffalo63 4 years, 5 months ago

It seems to me that it is still the strategy of the Republicans to try to deny Obama a second term, but since that failed, to try everything else to make it look to be a "failed two-term Presidency". It is easy to stand back and criticize a President, but quite another thing when you are the one charged with making the decisions and standing in the way of actually helping the economy recover or Americans getting a job.

Carol Bowen 4 years, 5 months ago

Lynn731, How has the ACA affected seniors? I have not noticed any changes.

If you are worried about Medicare, watch congress. The GOP wants to change Medicare.

Carol Bowen 4 years, 5 months ago

Buffalo63, The GOP wants the ACA be a campaign issue. There's enough propaganda out there to swing votes. the GOP is always concerned about votes. That's why they're having trouble now. Their districts have been gerrymandered, and the radical conservatives are winning the primaries. They are manipulating GOP out.

Carol Bowen 4 years, 5 months ago

Correction: They are manipulating moderate GOP out.

stevieboy 4 years, 5 months ago

Latest CBS poll shows 61 % of the American people do not want ACA..That is who the Republicans are standing up for..

tomatogrower 4 years, 5 months ago

But part of that 61% want a single payer plan, but we are willing to accept the ACA as the next best thing, so it doesn't fly. Those of us who want to a single payer plan will not vote for the Republican Tea Party, ever.

windjammer 4 years, 5 months ago

Then can you explain to me why Mr. Obama was elected to a second term?

Carol Bowen 4 years, 5 months ago

70% of those who do not support the ACA do not want it defended or repealed.

Trumbull 4 years, 5 months ago

If the Republicans do not like the ACA, they should propose legislation to repeal it. Then the House and Senate vote on it. This is how congress should "listen" to the American people. This is the law of the land, and how our constitution works.

You should not shut down the government and threaten the solvency of the US treasury by not raising the debt ceiling as way get what you want and to circumvent our system. This is down-right reckless.

This is the 2nd time we have gone through this. In 2011 our credit rating was reduced. Now we risk the same thing. Right now, this uncertainty is presenting an obstacle to our recovering economy.

Armstrong 4 years, 5 months ago

Can't wait till Barry is out of office and we have a chance to elect a leader.

Carol Bowen 4 years, 5 months ago

Boehner needs to lead his party instead of yielding to a small contingent.

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