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Letter: Torture issue

March 2, 2013


To the editor:

Waterboarding has been recognized since World War II as torture and illegal under any circumstance under common Article 3 of the Geneva Convention. Sen. John McCain, former POW and Republican nominee for president, has criticized the practice and denied its effectiveness, and noted Japanese soldiers were hung after World War II for inflicting such torture.

Academy Award nominee for best picture “Zero Dark Thirty” depicts waterboarding being applied by CIA agents. Controversy around the use of torture in the movie has centered on whether waterboarding led to useful information being gleaned or not. Several members of Congress challenged the producers for portraying the technique as effective rather than concern over the legality and criminality around admitted enhanced terror being used by CIA agents. If it is illegal and doesn’t produce reliable information, why is it used at all? Ironically, only one person has been charged with a crime concerning waterboarding. Ex-CIA agent John Kriakou was recently sentenced to 30 months in prison for his part in waterboarding. His crime was exposing the use of waterboarding by CIA agents violating the Constitution and world treaties.

When administrations interpret law to suit their objectives, the Legislature fails to challenge presidential powers and the judicial department turns a blind eye to the possible violation of the constitution. Whistle-blowers deserve protection, not prison.


Abdu Omar 1 year, 1 month ago

Two things I want to opine:

A) All this hoopla about Al Qaeda and whether or not it did the events has been pretty much proven to be a government lie, if one sits down and analyzes it. 1) why did the building fall as if imploded and explosives set in the perfect places? 2) why do scientists reject the idea that jet fuel caused so much heat the whole building collapsed? Why did Tower 7 collapse? Aren't there enough questions to stop one from believing in the government story? And who gained from that attack? Muslims? Who?

B) There is no justification for Bush, Obama or any president to allow or condone actions by the USA that violate any article of the Geneva Convention. As all military personnel are taught, we are to abide by that convention because it protects American Soldiers as well. Water boarding and drone attacks are means of torture and the collateral damage inflicted is murder of innoicents which is a crime against humanity.


Centerville 1 year, 1 month ago

LIberty, that's a pretty brave question, don't you know? You must be either 1) very brave or 2) missed the directive.


Liberty275 1 year, 1 month ago

If waterboarding is torture, what's it called when an American citizen is assassinated without due process?


grammaddy 1 year, 1 month ago

"When administrations interpret law to suit their objectives, the Legislature fails to challenge presidential powers and the judicial department turns a blind eye to the possible violation of the constitution. Whistle-blowers deserve protection, not prison." So, free Bradley Manning and Julian Asassange and impeach Justice Scalia.


Obama_The_Obnubilator 1 year, 1 month ago

And Robert Gibbs was told not to talk about Obama policy on the! Obama is being outed for who he really is by his own.....not looking like a sweet second term. Of course, he still has his cabal of extreme left like Pelosi, Feinstein, Reid etc. Not to mention most of the msm. Slowly but surely though they are seeing some reality.


Obama_The_Obnubilator 1 year, 1 month ago

A handful of waterboardees who are still alive. A couple thousand wives, relatives, friends and children of drone strikees big eh libs? Obama did it, not Bush, so ok eh libs?


Obama_The_Obnubilator 1 year, 1 month ago

Let's talk about drones. Waterboarding is old news.


verity 1 year, 1 month ago

The fact that the whistleblower is the only one to get jail time sends us all a message---

Why is torture used in spite of the fact that it doesn't get useful information and may get lies in order to stop the torture? In other words, it is a negative in usefulness. The only reason I can come up with is that some people enjoy making others suffer.


Brian Chilcoat 1 year, 1 month ago

I love it when the NY Times is quoted as a go to source for making a point. They are not at all biased and left leaning are they? It is curious to me that we all seem to forget that during the Clinton years, the opportunity to take out OBL existed and was missed. Mr. Clinton calls it his biggest regret and thinks 9/11 would have been avoided had his admin done just that.


deec 1 year, 1 month ago

The direct warnings to Mr. Bush about the possibility of a Qaeda attack began in the spring of 2001. By May 1, the Central Intelligence Agency told the White House of a report that “a group presently in the United States” was planning a terrorist operation. Weeks later, on June 22, the daily brief reported that Qaeda strikes could be “imminent,” although intelligence suggested the time frame was flexible.

As the 9/11 Commission noted, "There were more than 40 intelligence articles in the PDBS [Presidential Daily Briefings] from January 21 to September 11 that related to Bin Laden." - See more at:


Steve Jacob 1 year, 1 month ago

I always bring up Zacarias Moussaoui. Arrested 8/16/01. If we tortured him, maybe we stop the 9/11 attacks and stop two wars from happening. Not saying right or wrong, just what ifs.


The_Beat_goes_on 1 year, 1 month ago

Assassinating Americans by drone is legal. What do you think of that Ace?


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