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City commissioners to consider final approvals for Menards project

June 14, 2013

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With two approvals already in its tool belt, home improvement retailer Menards will try to hammer out a deal with Lawrence city commissioners on Tuesday for a 31st Street store just east of South Iowa Street.

Store officials likely will face a split commission.

“I am concerned that this development will put some stress on our neighborhood retail centers that are only marginally full right now,” said City Commissioner Bob Schumm. “There are only so many dollars to be spent in a community, and when you stretch it out too much, something has to give, and usually it is the older retail centers.”

But Menards’ plans for an approximately 160,000-square-foot home improvement center on property just east of Home Depot near 31st and Iowa streets, has some support on the commission.

Mayor Mike Dever said development needs to occur soon on the proposed site, the former Gaslight Mobile Home Village.

“We’re dealing with a piece of property that I think is blighted,” Dever said. “It really is kind of an eyesore right now, and it is the first thing you see if you are driving into the commercial area from the east.”

Dever said he’s not convinced the new development — which also would have spaces for about 65,000 square feet of smaller restaurants and shops — would damage the city’s existing retailers.

“I think the town is going to be positively impacted by the completion of the South Lawrence Trafficway,” Dever said of the bypass project that will start construction again later this year. “I think there is a good possibility that we can bring in more shoppers from outside the community if we have more variety.”

The project already has won a positive recommendation from the Lawrence-Douglas County Planning Commission, and the Douglas County Commission approved a needed change in the joint city-county comprehensive plan to allow the project to move forward.

But the development won’t proceed unless city commissioners also give the necessary approvals to the project on Tuesday.

The project needs extensive approvals from City Hall because Menards officials want to build on a piece of ground that is zoned for apartment development. Menards officials have bypassed other locations in the city that are already zoned for big box retail development, most notably the property at Sixth Street and the South Lawrence Trafficway in northwest Lawrence. Site selectors for Menards said the location doesn’t have enough homes nearby to make it a viable location. Lowes, within the last two years, also made the same comments about the northwest Lawrence site.

Dever said the fact that Menards isn’t taking advantage of an area already zoned for retail development is the one part of the project that bothers him.

“But all of the conversations I’ve had about trying to steer companies to what we think are better locations out west have fallen on deaf ears,” Dever said. “They tell us that they’re not interested in being pioneers. I don’t think they’re going to be interested in that area until we have more development out there.”

Menards officials have said they are very interested in being a part of the South Iowa Street corridor. They note 31st Street just east of the proposed site will be widened and improved as part of the SLT project.

The new store would be next door to Home Depot, but Menards has pointed to several other communities where Menards, Home Depot and Lowes are all in close proximity and all do well.

Thus far, neighborhood opposition to the proposed store has been limited. Several neighbors said at previous Planning Commission meetings that they would rather have a home improvement center on the site than a large apartment complex, which is what’s allowed under the current zoning.

Schumm said he agrees that the community probably doesn’t need another apartment complex at the site, but he said he would like to explore other zoning options, such as a mix of office and residential uses.

“This whole retail area has been built up over the years by adding just one more and then just one more,” Schumm said of the South Iowa Street corridor. “I feel like it already has become a large commercial area that is somewhat complicated to move around in.”

Commissioners meet at 6:35 p.m. Tuesday at City Hall.

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SeaFox 1 year, 6 months ago

“But all of the conversations I’ve had about trying to steer companies to what we think are better locations out west have fallen on deaf ears,” Dever said. “They tell us that they’re not interested in being pioneers. I don’t think they’re going to be interested in that area until we have more development out there.”

Sounds like a classic cache-22.

To get more development out there, you need businesses to locate there, but businesses wont locate there because there isn't more development.

jesse499 1 year, 6 months ago

Not everyone lives out west I get tired of you guys that think that is the only part of Lawrence nothing can be build anywhere else give me a break !!!!

skull 1 year, 6 months ago

I think the point is that there already is a home improvement store in south lawrence, so why build another one? Also, give me a break...a large portion of lawrence is west of Iowa, especially a large portion of the people that shop at the existing home improvement stores.

jack22 1 year, 6 months ago

I can understand why a business would be reluctant to set up shop in the middle of nowhere. The property where we're building our recreation center would have been vacant for another 20 years if the city weren't pouring 25 million into developing it. We should be welcoming Lowes into our city and be happy with whatever location they choose to do business. I'm actually encouraged that we have a new business that is something other than another Mexican restaurant or high rise apartment complex that wants to locate here.

SpeedRacer 1 year, 6 months ago

I have been Menard's in Topeka a couple of times; and while an interesting store, I can't see it as the go-to place for things I purchase at other retailers now.

jesse499 1 year, 6 months ago

You must have just thought you were in Menard's or you work for Home Depot it has anything we got in Lawrence beat.

skull 1 year, 6 months ago

Menard's definitely doesn't have anything beat. The prices are lower, but so is the quality. If you want to shop at the Walmart of home improvement, then you will soon have that opportunity.

LogicMan 1 year, 6 months ago

The time is ripe to build there. Great store proposed; best use of the land.

skull 1 year, 6 months ago

Great store? I thought we were talking about a menard's.

LogicMan 1 year, 6 months ago

As a child once was quoted about similar, "It's a toy store for adults!"

dirt 1 year, 6 months ago

No to apartments and YES to Menards! If people wonder why we are losing tax dollars to other areas, it's because other areas have more options! I would prefer Lowes, but Menards would be better than nothing!

Loretta James 1 year, 6 months ago

how about olive garden and red lobster, or golden coral get some good places to eat here menards will do nothing but hurt home depot

jesse499 1 year, 6 months ago

Home depot does a pretty good job of hurting it's self (That's not my Dept.).

LogicMan 1 year, 6 months ago

Anyone interview Home Depot yet to see if they want to expand their Lawrence store? Or open another, bigger store in NW Lawrence?

irvan moore 1 year, 6 months ago

I like mr. schumms comment about the area building up by adding one store at a time, I wonder if he has figured out that downtown probably developed the same way

richh 1 year, 6 months ago

If I am City commissioner and I would not let the Menard's site near Iowa and 31 street, because that place already have the home improvement center as the Home Depot! I would put Menard's on the former farmland site by 23rd street! There is no home improvement in east of Lawrence area! Just think about it! We need to improve more business on east side of Lawrence! They were talking about add new many stores on south side of Lawrence area!

average 1 year, 6 months ago

If they were on west 6th, they'd probably get 95% of my business in that category. 100 feet from HD... no real reason to bother.

LogicMan 1 year, 6 months ago

Have you been to the Topeka Menards? If not, go have some fun! Give yourself a few hours there to walk the entire store and yard.

3up3down 1 year, 6 months ago

Why can't we get Lowes in here. Lord knows the expansion of Lawrence is NW and the possibility of development south is land locked by farmland and the Baker Wastelands. Lowes or Menards would do well on the north end of the city. Red Lobster tried for 31st and Iowa years ago. Get them in here along with Olive Garden.

LogicMan 1 year, 6 months ago

From visiting several, Lowes is very similar to Home Depot. They carry different brands or styles on some things.

Menards is a somewhat different animal. They sell groceries and pet food, for example. They also have a large building materials yard, which Home Depot lacks.

Jeff Barclay 1 year, 6 months ago

For heaven's sake... let the retailers decide profitability! The area is blighted and empty. What am I missing? Menard's would not build and smaller retailers would not come in beside if they were wanting to lose money!

jafs 1 year, 6 months ago

You're missing the fact that an individual business is only concerned with their own success, while cities and residents have broader concerns.

jesse499 1 year, 6 months ago

I would think that one of the concerns would be a big enough tax base to pay for city needs. They do not have any problem finding luxuries to spend our tax money on before they tell us about the real needs that we have to pay for would be nice to bring in some help once in awhile.

jafs 1 year, 6 months ago

Seems like the better solution would be to stop spending money on unnecessary luxuries, and spend it instead on necessities first.

Continual growth is neither necessary nor desirable, in my opinion.

Dan Blomgren 1 year, 6 months ago

Concerns like increased tax revenue from additional sales? Concerns like hiring Lawrence residents? Concerns like increased real estate taxes based on improved property? Are these the concerns you speak of? With the bypass now being expanded Lawrence will soon see a huge development as in homes along the new bypass with commuters looking for easy access to K.C or Topeka for that matter. Menards as well as Lowes will both prosper as will Lawrence as a whole. Are these more of the concerns you speak of?

jafs 1 year, 6 months ago

I get the sarcasm.

But, yes, I actually would be concerned if Lawrence sees a "huge development" like the one you propose. In my experience, the growth of Lawrence has had both positive and negative attributes, and the expansion/development of our "bedroom community" isn't something I particularly like.

If you're saying that we'll see a lot of homes in between here and other cities, that might be a little different - I'm not sure you're right about that.

Either way, I'd say wait and see what happens before expanding our retail base in anticipation of possible changes - human beings are notoriously bad at predicting the future.

jesse499 1 year, 6 months ago

You won't have to worry the only things our boys at City Hall want to build is things that add to our taxes nothing that will bring in tax money. They have ran off Lowes,Cracker Barrel, Olive Garden and so many others I can't name them all but they all run for office to bring more business in to Lawrence but when their in they do there best to run business off and build rec centers and things that we have to pay for Then after they get that oh I forgot we need a new Police and legal center that you have to pay for but they don't want any new business to help pay taxes for all these things.What's wrong with this picture? Is it because their developer friends are not making money off building them like they do the others? HMMMMMM

jesse499 1 year, 6 months ago

Cracker Barrel changed it's mind because the city would not let them put their sign up so people on the turnpike could see it but there is a Tanger mall sign that high out there if your next to a highway 75 feet in the air above you in you want that business and the city won't let you put your sign up you go to Topeka are someplace that will. As for Lowes that is the usual thinking move it farther west no one lives anywhere but on the west side anyway. Right! as for Olive Garden they have done it for others and their tax breaks will not last forever but now someone else is going to clean up that corner and build something they won't tell us what it is maybe it's still Olive Garden sense they have given tax breaks to others I would have tried it first to.

LogicMan 1 year, 6 months ago

"Walmart-Lite in NW Lawrence is a JOKE. Going there usually means a hit and miss to find if they have what you want."

Because the City wouldn't let them build unless it was about half the size they wanted.

Lesson for the City to learn: The major businesses know what they are doing; don't mess too much with their plans.

jafs 1 year, 6 months ago

Again.

Businesses are only concerned with their own ability to make a profit, and cities should take a less narrow view when analyzing these things.

Ginny Hedges 1 year, 6 months ago

“I am concerned that this development will put some stress on our neighborhood retail centers that are only marginally full right now,” said City Commissioner Bob Schumm. “There are only so many dollars to be spent in a community, and when you stretch it out too much, something has to give, and usually it is the older retail centers.”

... so it is better for us to go to KC or Topeka and spend our money there at Lowe's or Menard's like we have done a few times?

Look at Topeka - the Lowe's, Home Depot and Menard's are close together , and they seem to be doing okay. Just sayin...

streetman 1 year, 6 months ago

Office building needs are hardly as dependent upon location as is the case for retailers. Despite the analysis of renowned economist Schumm, Menards in Topeka must attract (suck?) a heck of a lot of business from Douglas Co -- they wouldn't pay for weekly advertising circulars (sometimes twice a week) in the LJW if it didn't pay off. That could only grow -- to the benefit of Lawrence in general -- if they had a store in Lawrence to attract more out-lying customers from Douglas Co than now make the trip to Topeka -- all providing tax $ to Lawrence. And the 31st location seems perfect, being by US 59 and the SLT. They know what they're doing.

deec 1 year, 6 months ago

Have they asked for their TIFs and/or tax abatements yet?

It will be convenient for Menards to have water nearby to pollute .

http://www.wwdmag.com/menards-guilty-polluting-wisc-waters

LogicMan 1 year, 6 months ago

"Have they asked for their TIFs and/or tax abatements..?"

If they do, just say no!

But say an emphatic "yes" to building it with private funds.

jesse499 1 year, 6 months ago

The water nearby is already polluted but it's call a wetland>

1 year, 6 months ago

Ah, Lawrence, Kansas, the champion of more big box stores in one location than just about anywhere in the midwest. Or if not, they wish to be. Yawn.

smileydog 1 year, 6 months ago

The city gave Home Depot fits to get built. I think it took 2 1/2 years to get approval. Will the city allow Home Depot to expand?

Richard Heckler 1 year, 6 months ago

“There are only so many dollars to be spent in a community, and when you stretch it out too much, something has to give, and usually it is the older retail centers.”

Yes the smart economic attitude and business friendly.

jesse499 1 year, 6 months ago

That must be why I have to go to Topeka or KC to find what I want i'm out of money to spend in Lawrence.

Richard Heckler 1 year, 6 months ago

“We’re dealing with a piece of property that I think is blighted,” Dever said. “It really is kind of an eyesore right now, and it is the first thing you see if you are driving into the commercial area from the east.”

This is no reason to support a risky business decision. Nothing needs to be built today or tomorrow. Simply because the property owner wants to is no reason to impact the economy with a bad business decision. It is not the responsibility of elected officials or the taxpayer to insure this person makes a lot of money at the demand of the property owner. Property owners assume all risks aka the free market.

Richard Heckler 1 year, 6 months ago

“I think there is a good possibility that we can bring in more shoppers from outside the community if we have more variety.” There is no way to substantiate such an irresponsible economic theory.... this is reckless indeed.

Extremely risky grounds to support a big box store. The market is not here simple as that. One third of the Lawrence population is students which brings the population to 68,000. 58% of Lawrence residential is rental property. Most landlords do not maintain their properties ... just let them deteriorate.

Not a lot of retail dollars left in this market.

LogicMan 1 year, 6 months ago

"One third of the Lawrence population is students which brings the population ..."

Walk through the Home Depot, Walmart, BestBuy, etc. parking lots, and you will see a fair number of "FR" county stickers of those coming up from Ottawa, etc. Baldwin, Eudora, Lecompton, rural, etc. DG shoppers also come to shop, instead of more-distant Topeka or KC, if the desired stores are here. So it's not just the City of Lawrence population.

"Most landlords do not maintain their properties ..."

Most? Many, yes. Enforce exisiting ordinances vigorously, but if that doesn't work well enough, start a rental-inspection program that has teeth.

LogicMan 1 year, 6 months ago

I was in some of those parking lots and their sidestreets this afternoon. There were, of course, many DG stickers and some FRs. But a surprising number of SNs, and many out of staters.

FlintlockRifle 1 year, 6 months ago

Yup , in the crime capital Lowe's and Menards are just a few yards from each other, time will tell.

Richard Heckler 1 year, 6 months ago

Topeka is twice the size of Lawrence.....

Which store was on the scene first?

Menard's is anticipating Home Depot going out of business. The bottom line.

Menard's should buy out Home Depot.

LogicMan 1 year, 6 months ago

"Menard's should buy out Home Depot."

It's not for sale.

HD is not afraid to compete. They killed off Builders Square in the past.

Richard Heckler 1 year, 6 months ago

Home Depot cannot compete with a larger new Menard's IF that is what Menard's brings to Lawrence. Menard's may well bring a downsized store to match the small town market of Lawrence.

I say Lawrence cannot and will not support to big name stores.

LogicMan 1 year, 6 months ago

Two, I think you meant to write.

Again, it's not just Lawrence supporting their stores, but a big region. Competition is good, and both can prosper if run well.

But following your premise, look what has happened: 84 Lumber was replaced by the much bigger and better Payless Cashways. They were replaced by the bigger and better Home Depot. A huge Menards would be the logical next step. And none of the old buildings has sat vacant for long.

LawrenceTownie 1 year, 6 months ago

Please guys, NO MORE HAMBURGER JOINTS close to this new Menards. We have too many HB restaurants in that area now. Back Yard already went out of business because it was sandwiched between two other HB restaurants. Get us in something entirely different.

jesse499 1 year, 6 months ago

I think Backyard went out for some other reason they where always busy mismanagement comes to mine.

Richard Heckler 1 year, 6 months ago

BTW who is paying for this improved section of 31st? Local taxpayers will be on the hook like we were for $2 million in improvements for Home Depot.

"The new store would be next door to Home Depot, but Menards has pointed to several other communities where Menards, Home Depot and Lowes are all in close proximity and all do well."

Within 2-3 miles of each other? Not in communities of 68,000.

Maybe in communities which are part of a very large metro population such as Philadelphia, San Francisco, St Louis, Dallas, Denver etc etc in which there are millions in a metro area.

I've never seen this in the KCMO metro. We see a Home Depot at 119th and I-35 then we see a Lowes at 135th near Black Bob. Not next door to each other.

Smart elected officials don't want a situation such as this in their community because empty big buildings are hard on the local economy.

Menard's is anticipating Home Depot going out of business. The bottom line.

average 1 year, 6 months ago

“I think there is a good possibility that we can bring in more shoppers from outside the community if we have more variety.”

FROM WHERE DEVER? Can somebody please buy our commission a Got-damned Rand McNally?

The number of people 'outside the community' who are closer to Lawrence than Topeka or KC but shop outside because we lack variety? That'd be Baldwin, Eudora, Lecompton, and, on a really good day, Tongie or Ottawa (KCK or Olathe is closer, though). Added all up... it's still a small town.

It's a fine line of reasoning if you're Columbia MO or even Manhattan KS. You're the closest major shopping center for 100 miles of small towns and farms. This is not the case for Lawrence and will not be the case.

Richard Heckler 1 year, 6 months ago

Menard's the Wal-Mart of the home improvement store industry = Menard's expects Home Depot to go out of business.

Do conservative billionaires like John Menard Jr. ever, ever, ever take personal responsbility for their actions?

Menard's has on numerous occasions famously gotten into trouble with pollution-control regulators in Wisconsin and Minnesota when it -- and Menard himself, personally -- have been caught illegally dumping company garbage, including toxic wastes.

The Menards chain has been planning to move into Missouri with new stores in three St. Louis suburbs, but yesterday the firm unexpectedly announced that one of those stores, in suburban O'Fallon, is being dropped from the expansion plan. Why?

http://www.uppitywis.org/blogarticle/menards-just-another-small-family-owned-business-hurt-obama-righ

Liberty275 1 year, 6 months ago

Is that the best you can find? A sycophant website?

http://www.uppitywis.org/about

"Uppity Wisconsin is a project to promote a discussion of progressive/liberal politics in Wisconsin. This is a collaborative effort to allow people of a progressive viewpoint to write blogs and to comment on articles. We also aggregate in a number of news sources to the site so you may keep up with progressive news. The web site is designed to make it easy for people to contribute. So please, consider doing so. Just click on the Participate link at the top of the site, and you'll be shown a number of different ways to participate and contribute.

Richard Heckler 1 year, 6 months ago

This is a all about trying to make Lawrence appear as something it isn't. The Chamber and the government are presenting a facade. What is this this big debt development doing? Draining OUR pocketbooks and raising OUR taxes courtesy of elected officials and local profiteers.

At great expense to taxpayers. As a great retail center Lawrence cannot compete with KCMO metro or Topeka. But the real estate executives and Chamber will keep telling us different.

Why would anyone want to shop Lawrence when KCMO metro and Topeka have many many more choices and perhaps lower prices? Lawrence needs to pull away from saturating the markets and come up with substantial long term well paying job potentials.

Simply put supporting a ton of retail requires a ton of expendable retail dollars which Lawrence does not have. Like Wal-Mart Lawrence represents Always Low Wages.

Sure we go to KCMO when we can't find something in Lawrence. But that is no reason to pretend that Lawrence can pretend to be a large retail center.

What goes with becoming a larger retail center? A larger city that comes with wayyyyyyyy more criminal activity,higher taxes,wayyyy more traffic congestion and polluted air. I PREFER TRAVELING TO KCMO METRO once in a while than to have that nonsense living in my backyard.

It seems to me both Topeka and KCMO have wayyyyyyy more criminal activity than Lawrence for sure. How many Lawrence taxpayers want the Chamber,the builders and the elected officials bringing that to Lawrence,Kansas? Most certainly not I !

JayhawkFan1985 1 year, 6 months ago

This is the classic "vendor on the beach" case. When you have a beach and only one ice cream vendor, it makes sense for the vendor to locate in the middle of the beach to minimize travel for everyone playing along the beach. However, when you have two vendors, it makes sense for the customers for the two vendors to locate at the 1/3 and the 2/3 locations along the beach to minimize the distance the patrons have to travel. However, it makes sense to the vendors to stay in the middle on the outside chance they can capture customers away from the other vendor. Thus, the interests of the vendors and customers diverge. This is our problem here. Home Depot and Menards offer the same products at the same prices with the same quality of service...at least roughly.

We need to remember that Lawrence doesn't belong to big business. It belongs to those of us who live here. So I ask you, what makes the most sense to the people of Lawrence? Clearly, Menards would be great for Lawrence. But, where should this vendor locate along our beach? I say, west Lawrence or north Lawrence or east Lawrence makes the most sense and is consistent with our city's comprehensive plan.

LogicMan 1 year, 6 months ago

"when you have two vendors, it makes sense for the customers for the two vendors to locate at the 1/3 and the 2/3 locations along the beach to minimize the distance the patrons have to travel."

Just a note: If the patrons are equally spaced along the beach, not 1/3 and 2/3. 1/4 and 3/4 would be optimal to minimizing travel.

LogicMan 1 year, 6 months ago

"But, where should this vendor locate along our beach? I say, ..."

You put up the money and the NW land, and maybe they'll take it! But until you do, it's their money at risk and their analysis showed the most promising location for their store is on the south side.

I do agree a store is needed up on the NW, but Lowes is a better fit. Or a greatly expanded Westlake.

jafs 1 year, 6 months ago

As you say "for their store".

Cities and residents have broader interests than that.

LogicMan 1 year, 6 months ago

Do you go to the shopping district on south Iowa on Saturday afternoons? The people's interests are in shopping! And that generates taxes for the City and State that can then pay for the services and amenities that the people need or want.

But a Menards will also help with the area's real estate market by encouraging people to build, repair, or improve their properties. Improved property values then generate more real estate taxes, and that most helps the schools and teachers.

Richard Heckler 1 year, 6 months ago

Lawrence does not need Menard's for any of the above. That activity has been occurring for decades upon decades upon decades WITHOUT Menard's. In fact all the above occurred in Lawrence for some time WITHOUT any so called giant sized home improvement store. Lawrence has plenty of do it yourself centers.

Menard's will cost taxpayers plenty before it opens aka "road improvements" say millions of tax dollars that seem to never be available for repairing sidewalks in older Lawrence neighborhoods which BTW would also increase property values and put people to work.

Again the more Lawrence grows out the more crime grows which is high tax dollar maintenance. How many in Lawrence want more crime in their backyards?

LogicMan 1 year, 6 months ago

Menards, or other new businesses, equals more crime in your mind? Good luck with that.

jafs 1 year, 6 months ago

Generally, no.

My point which you seem to ignore is that it's not enough for a single business to believe that a certain location is in their own best interest.

Cities should take a broader view, and analyze the effects, positive and negative, to arrive at a conclusion of "net" value before making decisions like this.

JayhawkFan1985 1 year, 6 months ago

You're right on the spacing. But, the community and its residents have invested a lot of money in public infrastructure that private developers want to use. Balance is the key.

juma 1 year, 6 months ago

Schumm should Zchumm out of here . Go hang out with your buddy Tommy F. at the new RCPark and discuss all your great development ideas.

Richard Heckler 1 year, 6 months ago

City hall, elected officials and local profiteers are draining OUR pocketbooks and raising OUR taxes. We've subsidized local profiteers at such a basic level for so long, that many people believe Lawrence will die if we don't. This is false-what we think of as a level playing field is tilted steeply in favor of local profiteers driving development.

How do we subsidize profiteers?

--- pick up the cost of more criminal activity as Lawrence grows.

--- building new and wider roads such as the SLT.

--- building schools on the fringe.

--- extending sewer and water lines to not necessary development.

--- extending emergency services to the fringe.

--- direct pay-outs to developers.

--- For example in Lawrence downtown two more 9th and New Hampshire structures looking at more and quite healthy multi-million tax $$$$ “donations if you will”. http://www.sierraclub.org/sprawl/report00/intro.asp

"Free Lunch: How Local Wealthiest Americans Enrich Themselves at Taxpayer Expense (And Stick You with the Bill)." This reveals how local government subsidies and new regulations have quietly funneled money from the local poor and the local middle class to the rich politically connected.

Bill Moyers http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/01182008/transcript.html

David Cay Johnson – What exactly is TIF? http://www.democracynow.org/2008/1/18/free_lunch_how_the_wealthiest_americans

LogicMan 1 year, 6 months ago

"in favor of local profiteers"

There is some of that. Fight it by opening up the town to more competition from within and out to shine the light of truth, and identify and vote out the dirty local pols.

Brett McCabe 1 year, 6 months ago

No to Menard's. The Lawrence City Commission will be reviewing the Menard's application soon and I encourage you to let them know that NO is the right answer.

The following two links are good places to start:

http://www.theinvestigativefund.org/blog/1717/menards_chain_gives_employees_anti-obama_propaganda/?page=3

http://www.uppitywis.org/blogarticle/menards-just-another-small-family-owned-business-hurt-obama-righ

Because Kansas is a Right-To-Work state, Menard's employees will easily be bullied by the Tea Party agenda of Menard's management. These workers will have little or no recourse if they do not buy into the Menard's ultra-conservative way of thinking.

As the last bastion of intelligent thought in Kansas, Lawrence needs to refuse these types of businesses.

LogicMan 1 year, 6 months ago

Yes! Four to one vote to approve tonight!

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