Archive for Saturday, June 8, 2013

Letter: True conservatism?

June 8, 2013


Well, I certainly am excited with the developments in Topeka. According to Kansas Secretary of Revenue Nick Jordan and Gov. Sam Brownback, this state is destined to be a shining example of true conservatism in action. Makes me want to stick around just to see how this all works out. According to my record keeping, taxes are being eliminated for the well-to-do, while taxes for those not so well off will remain the same or will be increased. Well, why not?  Someone has to pay the bills. It appears we are in a pitched battle with Mississippi to see who has the distinction of paying the highest taxes on groceries.

According to a recent survey of  Republicans in college, these people were honest enough to admit their party was rigid, old-fashioned, racist, and close-minded. Yes, indeed, it will be interesting to see how well Kansas’ regressive policies will be received by the rest of the country. It’s possible these qualities attributed to “true conservatism” will not be a good draw for most businesses. Economically, it is not good policy to locate in a state that does not value education, freedom of choice or decent standards of living.

It appears our legislators are interested in rolling back the years to the last century. Those were the good old days when women knew their place, there was no safety net for those in need, and the divide between the haves and have-nots continued to widen.  Yes, indeed, Kansas will certainly get a reputation — probably not the one Sam Brownback is hoping for. 


Dont_Tread_On_Me 4 years, 11 months ago

Anna: First, Republicans and conservatives are not one in the same. Second, please source the survey you cite because I do not buy it. Third, I think it is a great policy to locate in a pro-life state. Fourth, you set your own standard of living. Fifth, what should the gap between rich and poor be? How much taxes should everyone pay?

Satirical 4 years, 11 months ago

I love the politics of fear...lower taxes will lead to women being forced back into the kitchen!

However Hanna, I don't think your specious argument should be so subtle, since you clearly have no credibility on this issue. Why not just say Brownback's master plan is to disenfranchise everyone but white male real property owners, and plans on killing the first born of every family?

Satirical 4 years, 11 months ago

Conservatives have also heard this kind of argument before...conservative's motive are evil (racist, close-minded), and therefore all policies they propose are bad. (Says the person trying to scare others into being close-minded and not consider Brownback's actual policies, but only what she alleges are their bad motives and the specious outcomes).

Try an original (non-hypocritical) argument next time, and you might be more persuasive. (I not saying you wrong, I am saying your arguments are dumb).

Brock Masters 4 years, 11 months ago

Current government policies, both conservative and liberal, have condemned many to a life of poverty, living in ghettos or incarceration.

To cast the blame on one group for the problems facing this country is either woefully ignorant, partisan or naive. Look at the damage Bush did to America and look at Obama carrying on and expanding Bush's policies for proof that both the right and left are to blame.

The wars on drugs and poverty have done nothing to improve our country but instead created a neo-slave culture.

Dick Sengpiehl 4 years, 11 months ago

Well written letter to the editor and I agree completely. Intend to post on Facebook. One responder said that Republicans and conservatives are not necessarily the same. What is that? The Republican Party in Kansas IS conservative and is basically responsible for the grand experiment of income tax reduction which benefits corporations and sub chapter S corporations while sales taxes are higher, cuts are made to education, the arts, law enforcement, the list goes on and on. ALL brought about by the income tax reductions which caused the domino effect we're experiencing.

Brock Masters 4 years, 11 months ago

Really? You really believe the KS or national GOP is conservative? Do you not pay attention? How can you classify a party that raises taxes, grows government, increases spending and promotes government intrusions as conservative. Call the oppressive, call them hypocritical but don't call them conservative.

imastinker 4 years, 11 months ago

I have this Theory that most Democrats saw a true liberal they wouldn't Like their policies. Likewise I don't think a Republican would like the policies of most conservatives. The term liberal and conservative has a connotation that is so much different than the actual meaning most people don't what it means anymore. One doesn't have to look back in history very far to see the effects of these policies, but most people don't take the time to learn about this.

I do think a true liberal and a true conservative could find a lot of common ground in the areas of fiscal policy, foreign policy, and even many social justice issues. I myself would vote for a liberal If said liberal were suggesting policies that we can afford to pay for and actually help the poor instead of creating more poverty. I will give you a hint, more welfare, food stamps, and entitlements is not the answer.

Charlie Bannister 4 years, 11 months ago

Well said Don't-Tread-On-Me. The fact of the matter is that the lion's share of economic development is happening in red states, not blue. People are fleeing blue states by the thousands due to oppressive tax burdens and over zealous regulation. I'll take living right here in my little conservative red state any day. Anna Slemmer I am sure there are plenty of blue states that you would be happier in. Go find one.

notaubermime 4 years, 11 months ago

LOL. The majority of those people are retirees, not families. They are heading to the places with warm weather and low housing prices (for obvious reasons).

Richard Heckler 4 years, 11 months ago

Arthur Laffer works for Sam Brownback. Hmmmmm spells tax dollar misrepresentation.

Economist Arthur Laffer, patron saint of tax cuts, is back, with an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal that he hopes will put the kibosh on future plans for government stimulus. What a joke conservatives love stimulus money I mean have anyone ever seen a conservative turn down corporate welfare?

This is the group that got USA jobs a quick ride abroad which became our chief export.

Laffer, who had his heyday back in the Reagan years, is best known as the popularizer of the notion that raising tax rates beyond a certain level can actually reduce tax revenues by, among other things, discouraging entrepreneurship. The graphic representation of this idea, though not original to Laffer, came to be known as the Laffer Curve.

While he’s always had detractors, Laffer also had a lot of fervent fans back in the day. But his latest excursion into the public debate has drawn harsh criticism not only from liberal economists like Berkeley’s Brad DeLong but also from stimulus-hating, anti-Keynesian economists you might expect to agree with the Laffer line. The consensus?

Laffer seems to have forgotten, or ignored, some pretty basic concepts in economics. In other words, Laffer is getting laughed off the economic stage.

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Richard Heckler 4 years, 11 months ago

Sam ALEC Brownback does not necessarily represent republicans. Rather a group that which took over the republican party. They are neither fiscal conservative,fiscal responsible nor about smaller government. Quite the contrary.

Conservative yes. Reckless spending yes. Economic giants of our time......absolutely not.

Who are these deceptive people anyway? Rt Wing Anti Women Libertarian Neocon Fundamentalist Tea Party Fascists backed by ALEC Economic Terrorism. This group has no use for democrats or republicans.

verity 4 years, 11 months ago

How many times does it have to be said? Brownback/Koch et al are not conservatives. They are extreme regressives. The Kochs apparently are libertarians, except that they aren't really, as they want government to protect and help them while they crush the middle class and those in poverty.

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