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Lawrence man jumps in to help police officer subdue out-of-control suspect

January 23, 2013

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A 25-year-old Lawrence man jumped in to help a police officer struggling to subdue a man suspected of attacking cars in traffic and caving in the roof of a Prius on Saturday night on the Kansas University campus.

Nicholas Ayre said he had never been in a fight before. But when he saw the man attacking a police officer in the 1300 block of West Campus Road, his first instinct was to get involved. With his help, the officer arrested Sol Sebastian Rhoad Starling, 19, of Shawnee, on charges of battery and destruction of property, according to Trent McKinley, a Lawrence Police Department spokesman.

According to police, the incident began on West Campus Road about 10:15 p.m. Saturday, when Starling ran into the street and punched the rear quarter panel of the Toyota 4Runner that Ayre was riding in. Ayre followed him, hoping to identify him for police, and saw Starling jump in front of, and climb onto, a 2004 Toyota Prius driven by Donald Low, 63, of Lawrence.

Ayre said he watched Starling jump up and down on the roof of the car, partially caving in the roof and cracking the windshield. The damage to the car was estimated at $3,000.

Starling fled as Lawrence police Sgt. Craig Shanks arrived on the scene and ran out of sight behind the Chi Omega sorority house. When Shanks approached him and asked for identification, Starling suddenly attacked the officer, according to Ayre and the police report.

“The kid was calm for a second, and then he just lost it,” Ayre said.

The officer tried to use a Taser on the attacking suspect but missed his target and lost the upper hand in the struggle. Ayre said he felt the officer needed a little help and didn’t think twice about getting involved.

“At that point, I was like, ‘game on,’” Ayre said. “I just reacted, and I thought I should just choke this kid out.”

Ayre did. He grabbed hold of Starling and helped the officer put him in handcuffs as other officers arrived. Starling was booked into Douglas County Jail on felony counts of battery against a law enforcement officer, criminal damage of property and obstruction. He was released on $3,500 bond.

McKinley, of the Lawrence Police Department, said that it wasn’t clear what was driving Starling’s behavior that night but that Ayre’s assistance to the officer was a good example of citizen involvement. Under these particular circumstances, he said, the officers involved generally appreciated it.

Ayre said he would do it again. And he doesn’t bear any ill will toward Starling, partly because he is only 19 years old.

“Everyone messes up once in their life. I just hope he had one bad night and finds himself in a better place,” Ayre said.

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Comments

fearthephog512 1 year, 6 months ago

Wow, what a story! Props to Ayre. Wonder what was up with Starling ... sounds like he tried to go "Hulk" but ended up in cuffs.

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educatedperson 1 year, 6 months ago

that's exactly what it is, a story.

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somebodynew 1 year, 6 months ago

"... I just hope he had one bad night and finds himself in a better place," Ayre said."

He did - jail.

Thank you Mr. Ayre. Good job.

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Jean Robart 1 year, 6 months ago

sounds like it could be a drug fueled rage.

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CMM 1 year, 6 months ago

Nick is a good guy. No surprise he helped out

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Shelley Bock 1 year, 6 months ago

For many years Officer Shanks and I clashed in the court room. On the other hand, we got to know each other during family sporting events. So glad Officer Shanks wasn't injured and the citizen aided in the arrest. I'm certain the police report will be quite detailed and not good for the defense.

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Zach_Davis 1 year, 6 months ago

Something was amiss. A simple Google Search for Sol shows a talented individual in many ways and with quite a good history. I hope what ever fueled this incident in his life is addressed, because from the looks of it this is a kid with a lot to loose.

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JimmyJoeBob 1 year, 6 months ago

I've known Nick since he was a young boy playing baseball for the Cougars with my son. He is a great young man and his actions in this incident don't surprise me. Good job Nick.

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JayhawkFan1985 1 year, 6 months ago

He should get the citizen of the year award. And, I'd like to point out that he did NOT even need a gun as our friends in the NRA would like us to believe.

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RubyVrooom 1 year, 6 months ago

And there would be damage to more than just a Prius if this kid had access to a gun during his freak-out.

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dtown313 1 year, 6 months ago

Lmfao the officer couldn't handle a 19 yo!

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Hoots 1 year, 6 months ago

-2...I've seen multiple cops have trouble with people on certain drugs. Just hope one of these people doesn't come after you. You might come to seriously rethink your statement while you're in the emergency room getting patched back together.

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MarcoPogo 1 year, 6 months ago

"Lmfao"?

It's like surfing the web on AOL to get on TinyMUD or IRC.

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ComeOnMannnnnnn 1 year, 6 months ago

Nick has always been solid. Way to rep the Turkey Bowl boys Nick. We may take it easy on you next year. ;)

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somebodynew 1 year, 6 months ago

Actually, Mac, I would doubt he knew, or cared, what kind of car he jumped on. Sounds like there was some mind-altering going on at the time.

And to dtown - I would like to see how you would handle a 19 year old who was probably on some form of drug/alcohol. Now remember you are alone (until the citizen jumped in) and you don't use your gun (which I am sure you have).

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msezdsit 1 year, 6 months ago

Now, this is a good job by the lpd, with a little help from their friend,s, of course.

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jafs 1 year, 6 months ago

I'm glad this worked out, but it could have been disastrous.

Police shouldn't need the help of civilians to do their job, for which they're trained and compensated.

Also, it seems a bit odd that somebody who's never been in a fight uses the phrase "choke the kid out".

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otto 1 year, 6 months ago

So you are saying the cop should have put 2 to the chest and 1 to the head? - that is what they are trained and compensated to do.

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otto 1 year, 6 months ago

I was replying to Jafs /// sorry.

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jafs 1 year, 6 months ago

If that's all they're trained to do, then we're not training them well enough.

And, if they shoot unarmed people, then something's wrong with that picture as well.

Are you really saying the choice is between police officers gunning people down every time they come into contact with anybody doing something wrong and needing help from civilians, who aren't trained, armed or compensated for that service?

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jhawkinsf 1 year, 6 months ago

Not every policeman is going to be able to physically overcome every violent offender in every situation, no matter the amount of training. Thankfully, this civilian helped, meaning the officer wasn't forced into the decision of using deadly force.

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jafs 1 year, 6 months ago

As I said, I'm glad it worked out well.

But, I can easily imagine situations wherein the civilian is seriously hurt or killed as a result, which would be tragic.

If police officers aren't trained and equipped well enough to do their jobs, then we should correct that problem.

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jhawkinsf 1 year, 6 months ago

Send a SWAT team, a bomb squad, a hostage negotiator, a social worker, etc., out with every patrol officer. That way, they're be ready for any possibility.

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shleppy 1 year, 6 months ago

i like where this is going. communication through gun play. what does a pensive shot sound like?

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jafs 1 year, 6 months ago

I'll respond once, but if you continue to insult me, I'll ask you to stop responding to my posts, and stop discussing things with you.

You make my point exactly - it could easily have gone south. Civilians aren't trained or equipped or legally authorized to do many things that police officers are, and so they shouldn't be doing them.

If police officers aren't suitably trained and capable of doing their jobs without civilian help, that's a real problem.

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Munsoned 1 year, 6 months ago

"I'll respond once, but if you continue to insult me, I'll ask you to stop responding to my posts, and stop discussing things with you."

-shivers-

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jafs 1 year, 6 months ago

Please stop responding to my posts.

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jafs 1 year, 6 months ago

So, they're not adequately trained to deal with what they encounter, then, and need civilian assistance to do their job?

This was an unarmed (as far as we know from the reporting) single person, probably hopped up on some sort of drugs. Shouldn't a police officer be able to deal with that situation without help from some civilian?

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ComeOnMannnnnnn 1 year, 6 months ago

Sometimes you have to not worry about what you're trained to do and just act like a human. Great job Nick. Second, what makes you think that a trained officer may not loose the upper hand. It's always possible. Training just lowers the chances.

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jafs 1 year, 6 months ago

Of course it's possible.

But police officers knowingly put themselves at risk when they take that job. They're trained, equipped with a variety of weapons, and legally authorized to stop, detain, arrest, etc. people. And they're paid to do that.

Ordinary citizens are none of those things.

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friendlyjhawk 1 year, 6 months ago

He won't be in a "better place" until he gets mental health treatment. The suspect is one of those who needs to be identified in the a system so he is treated and monitored. Probably won't happen tho. There are so many who need that kind of help.

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mac 1 year, 6 months ago

JayhawkFan1985 said it right: "I'd like to point out that he did NOT even need a gun as our friends in the NRA would like us to believe."

and

dtown313? I'd like to see you take on a SOBER 19 year old with determination without needing help. You're supposed to say Thank You.

Thank You LPD and Thanks to a great Lawrence Citizen for lending a strong arm!

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Bud Stagg 1 year, 6 months ago

Really dtown? I've seen people on PCP take on 4 cops and get the upper hand. Drugs alter the mind, the mind can alter your abilities. Look at the people who lift cars in emergencies.

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lawdog 1 year, 6 months ago

"They need to hire that guy"!

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educatedperson 1 year, 6 months ago

this article isn't really even about what happened. it's a clever journalism technique to illustrate a classic hero/villain fairytale. half of these facts are inaccurate and just blown up to make Mr. Nick Arye look like some kind of heroic citizen.

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tanaumaga 1 year, 6 months ago

Man, you really are educated.

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educatedperson 1 year, 6 months ago

man, i bet you believe everything you hear on the news or read on the internet.

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bearded_gnome 1 year, 5 months ago

so, "Educatedperson" when you jumped on the Prius, youweren't hopped up on something then? are you trying to defend yourself here?

if the article is so fictional, then what really happened?

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bearded_gnome 1 year, 5 months ago

Jafs' comments are shocking here.

one oficer vs. one 19-year-old and Jafs automatically thinks that always and forever any given officer is going to be able to corral a given 19-yo hopped up on something!

thank God somebody was there to help!

why ddn't they hold him and test him for illegal drugs/bathsalts etc.?


and in today's wacko enviro-crazy world, isn't it a federal crime to assault a Prius?

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jafs 1 year, 5 months ago

I really don't think they're shocking at all.

If police officers aren't trained and equipped to do their job without citizen assistance, something's wrong with that picture.

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jhawkinsf 1 year, 5 months ago

You're assuming facts not in evidence. There is no amount of training that the police could take that would prepare them for any and all possibilities, like being surprised and overpowered. No amount of training. It can't happen. That's why SWAT teams don't work to perfection. Navy SEAL teams don't work to perfection and their only job is to train.

The picture problem is your expectation.

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bearded_gnome 1 year, 5 months ago

^^jafs 47 minutes ago

I really don't think they're shocking at all.

If police officers aren't trained and equipped to do their job without citizen assistance, something's wrong with that picture.

---the problem is Jafs, you're expecting ... an impossibility. one human can only be trained, equipped strengthened, skilled, etc., to a point; when it is one officer vs. one individual driven into psychotic rage etc., you hit human limits for God's sake Jafs!

I bet that officer Shanks was waiting for his backup but the second officer clearly hadn't arrived yet.

it is attitudes like yours which in fact endanger our LEO's and devalue them. stop expecting them to be superhuman! respect them for what they can do and understand their limits.

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bearded_gnome 1 year, 5 months ago

Nicholas Ayre said he had never been in a fight before. But when he saw the man attacking a police officer in the 1300 block of West Campus Road, his first instinct was to get involved. With his help, the officer arrested Sol Sebastian Rhoad Starling, 19, of Shawnee, on charges of battery and destruction of property, according to Trent McKinley, a Lawrence Police Department spokesman.

---Nicholas Ayre is a cool hero in my book! right on dude!

---Sol Sebastian Rhoad Starling? that's some kinda name.

---"destruction of property" for thumping a Prius? or for something else?

---without testing Starling, I'm so glad to know he's out on the street now--NOT!

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