Bill Self in favor of September (!) start

KU coach Bill Self talks to fans at Late Night in the Phog on Friday, Oct. 12, 2012, at Allen Fieldhouse.

KU coach Bill Self talks to fans at Late Night in the Phog on Friday, Oct. 12, 2012, at Allen Fieldhouse.

April 28, 2013


The NCAA Board of Directors on Thursday is expected to pass a measure that will add two to three weeks to the college basketball season.

This means the 2013-14 campaign likely will start on either Sept. 27 or Oct. 4, rather than the traditional Friday closest to Oct. 15.

If the board chooses the three-week option, Kansas University (if it wished) could hold its annual Late Night in the Phog on Friday, Sept. 27, a week before the Jayhawks play their first Big 12 Conference football game.

“It wouldn’t affect Late Night for us, because what we’ll do is still pick a time that coincides with what we think is best and still have Late Night, even if it’s after the first practice,” KU coach Bill Self said, indicating the Friday closest to Oct. 15 (Oct. 11 or 18) still figures to be the likely target date.

“We’ll do it the exact same way (as the past),” Self added.

Self approves of the decision to start the season earlier than the past. Basically, the 2013-14 season will start about the time KU’s coach normally holds his two-week Boot Camp conditioning program.

“I am favor of this because of this — injuries,” Self said. “The way it is set up, you will get the same number of practices (30 before first exhibition game). Starting earlier means you could take more days off. I think that is very positive for everybody.”

With practices held perhaps every other day, there could be less early-season pounding on the players’ bodies.

Another reason for the early start is to encourage teams to play a tougher nonconference schedule. Coaches will have no excuse to load up with patsies since there will be more time to prepare. This will not affect the number of games played, just add additional weeks of practice time.

“You will have 30 days between Oct. 4 and your first game, so they would be expanding the time to get your 30 workouts in so you can give guys more days off. You can spread it out a little bit better,” Wisconsin’s Bo Ryan said in a survey conducted by

On the other side is Notre Dame’s Mike Brey, who noted, “We practice in the summer and in September (small groups), so we don’t need to start that early.”

And South Carolina’s Frank Martin with a more-is-better take: “I would like the earlier start date (even better) if they gave us, say, five more practices,” Martin said in the survey.

By the way, a majority of coaches in ESPN’s survey had the same view of Midnight Madness as KU coach Self. They indicated they would opt for a traditional mid-October date for Late Night rather than hold it in September.

Turner turning heads: Myles Turner, a 6-foot-10, 220-pound junior from Trinity High in Euless, Texas, is receiving the most recruiting attention at the 2013 Jayhawk Invitational AAU tournament at New Century Fieldhouse in Olathe. The Texas Select forward is ranked No. 78 in the recruiting Class of 2014.

“I actually just had a visit with them (KU coaches) last Tuesday,” Turner told “They’re very interested in developing me, and they offered me a scholarship. That school is really known for developing big men, so they’ve expressed interest in me.”

Turner said he has heard from KU, Texas, Oklahoma State, UCLA, Baylor and many others. Information on the tourney is available at

Bail available: Wannah Bail, a 6-9 forward who was ranked No. 115 in the recruiting Class of 2012, has been cleared to play basketball by the NCAA, according to Jim Hicks of

Hicks tweeted Bail “could instantly become the hottest 2013 prospect in the country (not named Wiggins).” Bail is a former Texas Tech signee of former coach Billy Gillispie.

The Lubbock Avalanche-Journal reported in January that Bail, who attended Lamar Consolidated High in Rosenberg, Texas, “signed with Tech last year and joined the team for a short period, then left the program before the start of fall practice., in a September report, cited a negative relationship with former coach Billy Gillispie as Bail’s reason for leaving the team.

“Bail, an ESPN top-100 recruit, spent the last semester at a prep school in the Canary Islands but has since returned to the United States, and there is a possibility he could re-join the Red Raiders before the start of next season. Bail has strong ties to Tech interim coach Chris Walker, who was at the forefront of the player’s original recruitment to Tech.”

Walker was not hired as permanent coach. Tubby Smith is new coach of the Red Raiders.


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