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Letter: NRA sway?

April 20, 2013

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To the editor:

Whatever happened to the will of the people? The U.S. Senate has just defeated the watered-down compromise bill that would have somewhat expanded background checks to gun purchases made at gun shows and via the Internet. This in spite of the fact that over 90 percent of Americans, including a significant majority of National Rifle Association members, support these checks.

As expected, Kansas Sens. Moran and Roberts voted against the amendment. I wonder what made them go against the will of so many people, including what I expect is a significant majority of Kansans? It couldn’t be the money they get from the NRA, could it? Maybe it is.

According to an article in the Daily Beast, Mr. Roberts received $5,950 in campaign contributions from the organization. Mr. Moran did even better, receiving $7,950.

I guess it takes more than 30 pieces of silver to betray someone and buy a vote these days.

Comments

George Lippencott 12 months ago

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The NRA is just doing the latter - like the NEA or the ADA or the Teamsters Union or a whole lot of other groups

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Armored_One 12 months ago

And yet again, by kicking, screaming and dragging our heels, we allow a lobbyist group to yet again dictate federal law.

Is there a reason that we elect Congressmen/women or is it just a chance for the average citizen to be a bigger pain in the neck?

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grammaddy 12 months ago

If you are a law-abiding citizen, what do you have to fear from a background check? And since criminals don't obey the law, why make any at all? You folks amaze me.

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OonlyBonly 12 months ago

I sure like how Liberals throw Obama's 90% figure around all the time. Might want to look at this one AP/roper http://ap-gfkpoll.com/main/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/AP-GfK-April-2013-Topline-Posted-FINAL_guns.pdf

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reality_check79 12 months ago

Background checks have yet to take the guns out of criminals hands... Also your 90% is completely fabricated... If liberals don't like guns there is a place where guns are illegal, the people are liberal and they dye the river green!!! Chicago is beautiful!!! With its high rise buildings, beautiful lake, shopping, and what's that?? Oh, the highest murder rate in the country... How can that be, guns are illegal in Chicago??? Wait, criminals don't follow laws?? I'm shocked!!! What?? Registered gun owners are rarely charged with gun crimes... Background checks don't solve the problem!! Where in this bill did it punish the criminal?? Where was the plan to get guns out if criminals hands?? Oh, those things weren't addressed?? Maybe next time...

As a gun owner this bill made zero sence... None!! I'm all for getting guns out of criminals hands however, Obama failed to mention anything regarding this... Liberals went on the anti-gun mission seconds after children were killed by a sick man who's mother failed to protect her guns... The rifle was never used in Newtown, never... It was in his car... It is obvious liberals have no clue when they use the term "assault weapon" to describe a rifle... Every gun is an assault weapon, almost every gun made is semi-automatic, and nothing will change because liberals don't want murderers to receive the death penalty and they are it of jail faster than a guy with marijuana!!

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grammaddy 12 months ago

42of the 46 Senators who voted against this bill receive money from the NRA. That told me all I needed to know.

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In_God_we_trust 12 months ago

Rights in the Constitution are not up to polls done by news media performed in liberal areas. Rights are not subject to people's opinions. The listed Rights in the Constitution are areas where government is not allowed to make legislation. The Senators simply supported the Constitution and the Preamble to the Bill of Rights. It wasn't just the NRA or the progressives (communists). It was people calling their Senators and asking them to uphold the Constitution against those that would violate it.

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Steven Gaudreau 12 months ago

"Your ignorance must truly be blissful for you." As is yours believing a law will stop a mentally ill person from using a gun to murder.

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msezdsit 12 months ago

Moron and bobblehead voted as they were told to vote by those whom they worship, which on this matter, was not the people they were elected to represent.

I would like to personally thank them for the next Newtown and their staunch support of the potential murderers of our children and other innocent americans. You don't have to tell me who the real terrorists are. Roberts and moron and their ilk.

This ilk thinks that no matter what we do, since we can't stop these senseless acts of murder we should do nothing to help prevent as many as possible. The more the better.

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Mike Ford 12 months ago

this has become a country where simple minded constituents can let the rest of the country go while being concerned with three or four issues being guns, abortion, immigration, and religion. it's hard to use empirical data when these people do nothing except react emotionally to the words that spineless and cowardly politicians say to the them like the pied piper. they don't think much. it's basically their only defense to fifty three percent of the country electing a person they call an elitest because they have no intellect. if you've broken no laws then background checks don't affect you. it's the same logic as the voting id nonsense that herr kobach and his goose steppers have put on us when voting. I've voted since 1988 and I don't need a pathetic attempt at precinct intimidation and a non issue except with non thinking voters who believe the immigration malarkey. maybe these clowns should check to see if my deceased mother is voting. talk about a non issue. I've been a gun owner since I was eight when I got my first shotgun to hunt with in Louisiana from my dad. I did hunters safety at eleven years of age and I've helped collect antique guns as a lifelong Democrat whose against a bunch of chest thumping doomsday prepper NRA ar 15 owners politicizing the gun issue, Nothing like seeing the anti Obama NRA posters in gun shops here and in Tulsa flaming the fear of brother issue that I've seen in the last three years. Background checks affect no one except those who shouldn't be allowed to buy guns. This is just a knee jerk reactions by those whom the coward politicians have programmed to react with paranoia. I let both the OVPK and DC offices of Pat Roberts have it this week.

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George Lippencott 12 months ago

Most of us favor background checks. The issue is to what extent a. Background check and registration of weapon. (one of the proposals) b. Background check (to include mental health) c. Background check with no consequence of failing d. Background checks where private sellers do not have to keep records (or where they do) The favor/ oppose ratios vary depending on exactly what kind of background check is to be made, how much record is maintained, what happens when you fail, whose included. AS always the main stream media asks a simplistic question and runs with the result without any caveats. We should do better if we are going to cite polls as reflecting “truth” on such a complex question.

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Steven Gaudreau 12 months ago

Quinnipiac University poll, heck, if Quinnipiac says its 90; then its 90. I think a SW Jr High poll has 99% so by all means us that one. Lets go poll 100 people at a gun show and see if that 90% holds up.

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FlintlockRifle 12 months ago

Markoo, I thank you, I did not see or hear of them, again thanks, bud.

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FlintlockRifle 12 months ago

Did anyone here get involved in this 90% poll, where was it taken and when, and how was it worded??? Something like, do you support the so called back ground check, or do you want a jab in the eye with a sharp stick.

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George Lippencott 12 months ago

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

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appleaday 12 months ago

My real concern is how dysfunctional our Congress is. For every problem, each "side" takes a position, they fight over who is right and who is wrong, they play legislative games, one side "wins," and then the problem goes on being a problem and the citizens are left without workable solutions. Until members of Congress on both sides start working together become willing to compromise, we're left with this dysfunction.

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Centerville 12 months ago

A vote for would have prohibited debate on the dumb little Senate bill, with only a few pre-approved amendments. A vote against, as Moran and Roberts voted, would open it up to 30 hours of debate with no limit on the amendments that could be offered. Obama, after making such an abject ass of himself, couldn't allow that. Cloture failed so rather than proceed with the 30 hours of debate, Reid has pulled the bill entirely. The press thinks you're too stupid to find this out - and they hope you stay that way.

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Steven Gaudreau 12 months ago

The support is Jon Stewart and Bill Maher said it was 90%. Any statement made be these two is as good as gold for Libs just like anything Rush L. spouts off is the gold standard for Repubs.

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Armstrong 12 months ago

90 percent of Americans, including a significant majority of National Rifle Association members, support these checks.

I'm guessing there is support of that claim somewhere

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Lynn731 12 months ago

They voted against it because it was a bad bill. There was potential for misuse, such as creating a nationwide database of gun owners. That is against the law already, but that doesn't mean the emperor wouldn't do it. No matter what the emperor says, most of it is a lie. There are many of us who do not trust him, or his anti-gun cohorts. An example is the Attorney General participating in "fast and furious" which got a couple of hundred mexican citizens killed, plus one of our border patrol agents. When it came time to own up to his illegal activities before the Congress, the emperor pulled him from the fire. This man is the chief law enforcement officer of this nation, it appears he is a liar and a crook. I am a life member of the NRA and GOA, I was opposed to this badly written bill.

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appleaday 12 months ago

Stewart pointed out a widely known statistic. I never said that it was true because he said it

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Steven Gaudreau 12 months ago

Well if Jon Stewart said 90% of the people want more laws it must be true.

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hipper_than_hip 12 months ago

Did the majority of Kansans support the proposed gun control bills? Roberts and Moran work for the people of Kansas.

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Brock Masters 12 months ago

Thank you Senators Roberts and Moran for representing me. I called, you listened and you did good.

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appleaday 12 months ago

And, as Jon Stewart pointed out, 90% of the people were for background checks, the Senate voted 54 to 46 for background checks, and somehow the majority vote loses, thanks to Senate rules that allow minority rule to decide. This vote was shameful on several levels, including many GOP senators' responses to the families of the Newtown victims, telling them to go to "*@#$" or calling them "props" as if they had no right (to free speech) to weigh in on this issue.

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Abdu Omar 12 months ago

Our senators have no brain of their own. Whether or not they sell their votes is hard to prove, but they certainly listen to Mitch McConnell, when ever he speaks and he spoke out about this bill and it was defeated. When do we do the right thing instead of the expedient thing? Our senators should never be reelected, no matter what.

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