Archive for Friday, September 28, 2012

Democrats express concerns that Brownback’s tax cuts will lead to harmful budget cuts

September 28, 2012


— Democratic legislative leaders Friday predicted that Gov. Sam Brownback's massive tax cuts will force harmful state budget cuts. But Brownback's spokeswoman said the tax cuts will stimulate the economy.

House Minority Leader Paul Davis, D-Lawrence, and Senate Minority Leader Anthony Hensley, D-Topeka, on Friday said Gov. Sam Brownback's tax cuts will lead to harmful budget cuts.

House Minority Leader Paul Davis, D-Lawrence, and Senate Minority Leader Anthony Hensley, D-Topeka, on Friday said Gov. Sam Brownback's tax cuts will lead to harmful budget cuts.

"A lot of critical state programs are being put on the chopping block," said House Minority Leader Paul Davis of Lawrence. "Frankly, this is just the beginning, we are just scratching the surface of the kind of cuts that we are going to have to see in the future," he said.

Senate Minority Leader Anthony Hensley of Topeka said of the tax cut bill, approved by Republicans in the Legislature and signed into law by Brownback, also a Republican, "I think in reality (it) is going to cause a budget crisis for years to come."

The two leaders noted the Brownback administration's announcement last week that it was shutting down the Kansas Main Street Program, which has helped revive downtown areas in numerous small towns over the past 27 years.

Brownback's spokeswoman Sherriene Jones-Sontag disagreed with the Democrat's assessment about the tax cuts. She said the cuts will put more money in the pockets of Kansans, increase economic activity and create jobs.

The state is decreasing its individual income tax rates for 2013, with the top rate dropping to 4.9 percent from 6.45 percent. Also, the state will exempt the owners of 191,000 partnerships, sole proprietorships and other businesses from income taxes.

The Legislature's research staff projects the tax cuts will create collective budget shortfalls approaching $2.5 billion over the next six years.

"I do not understand how the governor can say with a straight face that we are going to get through this without touching K through 12 education, universities, Medicaid," Davis said.

Jones-Sontag said Brownback has vowed to protect "core functions" of government, which he has said are education, Medicaid and public safety.

Democrats have pointed to Brownback's budget office's directive to state agencies to forward spending plans that include a 10 percent funding cut.

But Jones-Sontag described that instruction as a contingency plan should "things beyond our control" upset the state economy. She said the possibility of deep federal budget cuts, economic struggles in Europe and the unknown of tax policies at the federal level could all have a negative impact on Kansas.

Hensley said legislators made tough budget cuts during the recession and when the economy started to slightly improve, the state produced a surplus. But, Hensley said, that was eliminated by the tax cuts.

And, he said, the cuts were unfair to low-income Kansans. The tax cutting package will eliminate a food sales tax rebate program and child care credit. "That is one of the real tragic things about this tax plan," he said.


SageonPage 5 years, 8 months ago

I can't with a straight face ask why we even care what Paul Davis has to say about anything. He is in the minority because the majority of Kansans don't care what he thinks. He is a political hack regurgitating the national democratic party line, heard all that already said by someone higher up on the democratic totem pole and it was meaningless then.

parrothead8 5 years, 8 months ago

So your argument is that if 51% of people agree with something, then the voices of the other 49% don't matter?

George_Braziller 5 years, 8 months ago

If the election was held today Brownback wouldn't be Governor. After his term ends his political career is over. His legacy will consist of being recorded in Kansas history books as being the worst and most incompetent Governor the state has ever had.

JayhawkFan1985 5 years, 8 months ago

We should all care what all our elected representatives have to say. The problem is the Brownback crew say stupid things. We should care about that because they will bring economic ruin upon us. You are not a're a fool. Clown face is a good look for you. Try using your own picture for the sake of integrity.

wastewatcher 5 years, 8 months ago

Do these habitual whiners have a solution, if so lets hear it. Remember their ex leader and EXTREME LIBERAL FRIEND left the state broke.

Mike1949 5 years, 8 months ago

Broke? You don't know what broke is. Just wait a year or two, the clowns are going to eat everyone's young!

Bob_Keeshan 5 years, 8 months ago

The 2008-2009 recession --- Kathleen Sebelius' fault

The 2013-2014 massive budget cuts -- factors outside of Sam Brownback's control

It doesn't take all caps for a reasonable person to question your argument.

JayhawkFan1985 5 years, 8 months ago

When sebelius and Parkinson left office, ks had a balanced budget.

Lawrence Morgan 5 years, 8 months ago

We need to hear SageonPages solution to all these things, now! Rhetoric doesn't matter. If you have ideas to back your statements, make them now and in great detail.

I really wonder: does SageonPage have children, a wife, a job with wonderful benefits, unlike so many other Kansans. Tell us WHAT IS GOING ON WITH YOU!

Brad Avery 5 years, 8 months ago

Voodoo economics, or more accurately LSD economics, raises its ugly head once again.

chootspa 5 years, 8 months ago

He's going to feed all the poor with loaves and fishes that will magically multiply to meet the needs of the people just like the Kansas budget won't.

Katara 5 years, 8 months ago

That is totally what Jesus would have said!

Katara 5 years, 8 months ago

Jesus also "liked" his own posts too.

Richard Heckler 5 years, 8 months ago

"Jones-Sontag said Brownback has vowed to protect "core functions" of government, which he has said are education, Medicaid and public safety."

Election time rhetoric in hopes of getting more Brownback puppets in the legislature. Cannot believe Sam Brownback.

Notice no one said "public education".

Privatization is a failure and requires more tax dollars.

"Brownback's spokeswoman Sherriene Jones-Sontag disagreed with the Democrat's assessment about the tax cuts. She said the cuts will put more money in the pockets of Kansans, increase economic activity and create jobs."

This is Reaganomics talking and what did Reaganomics produce? Millions upon millions upon millions of people without jobs,homes,med insurance andretirement plans up in smoke. Brownback brought this nonsense from the beltway.

Richard Heckler 5 years, 8 months ago

First off it would be wise to never vote republican again. The GOP has become the Rt Wing Libertarian Neocon Fundamentalist Tea Party for Economic Terrorism.

The largest hits to employment and the economy whether being laid off,wages and benefits reduced or the USA corporations simply leaving the country appeared to have occurred under republican administrations in the past 30 years.

This was not because USA industry was in dire straights. I say USA employment exodus began with the introduction of Reaganomics.


=== Hostile Takeovers

During this same 30 year period millions upon millions more jobs were lost to fraud of sorts in the home loan industry which effectively ruined the economy twice in a 30 year period.

=== Reagan/Bush Savings and Loan home loan scandal which killed the economy and cost the USA millions of jobs.

Ultimately millions upon millions upon millions of USA jobs are gone. These jobs go abroad supported with tax codes that prevent taxation on profits made abroad from USA big name corporations. These millions upon millions of jobs have never come back to the USA.

Jobs are simply not available. When jobs are advertised 50 - hundreds show up to interview. Not an encouraging picture.

Could something be done about this situation? Yes but it would take a congress with substantial backbone.

Cutting off food stamps and unemployment benefits is not the answer. Stealing Social Security Insurance and Medicare Insurance is not the answer.

Putting people back to work with tax dollars is the answer. Government people put the people out of work NOT it is time for government to accept responsibility and put people back to work.

riverdrifter 5 years, 8 months ago

Your credibility is unrelated to font. Use whichever you want. This is the start of a limerick...

Dan Eyler 5 years, 8 months ago

I haven't heard a single idea from democrats on how they plan to manage the budget and get control of state spending. I have yet to hear how they plan to create an environment for jobs in the state and compete for business. What I hear a lot of is how they plan to spend taxpayer dollars. So without saying a single word about all the evils of Brownback give us your plan for creating jobs, reduce spending and support core government services.

Bob_Keeshan 5 years, 8 months ago

I would remind you it was Democrats who removed the property tax on machinery and equipment in the mid 2000's, which the Kansas Chamber promised would generate tens of thousands of new jobs.

It was Democrats who created the booming development in Wyandotte County, which is by far the fastest growing area in Kansas, faster than Johnson and Sedgwick counties by tens of thousands of new jobs.

It was also Democrats who slashed the budget in 2008, 2009, and 2010 during the worst recession since the 1930's.

A recession that was all their fault, of course. Darn that Kathleen Sebelius and her meddling ways. Thankfully, the budget cuts that are a'coming aren't Sam Brownback's fault, right?

getreal 5 years, 8 months ago

These tax cuts are going to destroy the only thing that has ever brought businesses to Kansas - our public school system. Business owners want to provide a quality system for their employees and they want an educated workforce. Watch out Mississippi, we are racing to the bottom to catch up with you!

Richard Heckler 5 years, 8 months ago

Since the days of Reagan/Bush this new breed of conservatives have yet to display any ability whatsoever to manage and economy or produce new industry and jobs...... to cover the results of their wreckanomics.

They want to cut taxes for high-income Americans while the middle class shoulders the burden.

They want to let Wall Street write its own rules again, and remove the financial regulations President Obama has put in place to prevent another crash.

They want to cut the budget in a radical way, decimating programs that help the middle class, poor children, seniors, and those in science and technology that will create the good jobs of the future.

They want to turn Medicare into a risky voucher program that could actually raise costs for seniors by as much as $6,400 per year.

Obviously this new breed of conservatives is not good with economics. Being a conservative means messing with your rights,being your bedrooms,pulling off gigantic home loan frauds and waging global war in hopes of controlling the world.

Nobody in their right mind can afford this new breed of conservative posing as republicans.

Richard Heckler 5 years, 8 months ago

Brownback has been on a tax dollar payroll since 1986. According to his own definition he is a tax dollar moocher.

Another example of Sam Brownback brilliance goes like this.

In 2001 Brownback submitted S.1465, which authorized Presidential waivers for foreign aid to Pakistan. S.1465 passed by a unanimous unrecorded vote of Senators present. The Pakistani Government utilized U.S. foreign aid in an attempt to bribe Mujahideen and Taliban militants inside that country. Taliban commanders and Mujahideen commander Nek Mohammed openly admitted that they intended to use the foreign aid money to repay loans which they had received from al Qaeda.

Richard Heckler 5 years, 8 months ago

Sam Brownback was also part of this reckless nonsense.

Big debt and super duper bailouts HAVE BEEN the results which does not seem to bother Republicans, as long as they are in power.

In fact, by the time the second Bush left office, the national debt had grown to $12.1 trillion:

This ENTITLEMENT - Over half of that amount had been created by Bush’s tax cuts for the very wealthy.

This ENTITLEMENT - Another 30% of the national debt had been created by the tax cuts for the wealthy under Presidents Reagan and George H.W. Bush.

This ENTITLEMENT - Fully 81% of the national debt was created by just these three Republican Presidents.

Conservative entitlements are beyond reality and lack any demonstration of fiscal responsibility.

jafs 5 years, 8 months ago

I'm a little confused about those who claim KS was in some sort of terrible straits due to D leadership.

Having lived here for about 16 years now, things seemed to be working well in a number of ways, and we've have mostly moderate R leadership, with a little D as well.

The problems I'm aware of, like the KPERS shortfall, are a clear consequence of the legislature (solidly R as far back as anyone can recall) failing to contribute their share, and perhaps some overly optimistic projections of investment income. And, the program may be a bit too generous as well.

Now, with a very conservative governor, we have massive tax cuts, reorganizations of agencies, privatization of Medicaid, and budget cuts.

Seems to me we were doing a lot better before he took office.

Bob_Keeshan 5 years, 8 months ago

"Truly working and productive among us..." Is there some sort of test for this? Some folks are only working, some are only productive, some are working and productive, but not TRULY working and productive?

Class Warfare, pure and simple. I love your posts and I wish you would post more often.

Armstrong 5 years, 8 months ago

Looks like Rothy has the takers up in arms this morning.

Dan Eyler 5 years, 8 months ago

There they go again, no ideas, no jobs, just crying for more taxpayer money. They cry for more school funding. Schools get 12 thousand per kid from state, federal, and local taxpayers. Schools get more than half of all taxes raised by the state of Kansas. When will you have enough? We still have to cover all other government services. Clearly your own education skipped the math class. By the way between 1980 and 1988 the nation created nearly 23 million jobs leading the nation out of the single worst recession since the depression. We want jobs and we don't want any new taxes unless the taxes are a direct relationship to economic growth. So again what are your suggestions for job growth?

Katara 5 years, 8 months ago

BTW between 1980 & 1988 the internet was just beginning and it created a whole new area for jobs. The time frame comparison is not accurate.

jafs 5 years, 8 months ago

The tactic of personally insulting people for their ideas is abhorrent, and certainly inconsistent with Jesus' teachings of love, compassion, etc.

For the record, I get no goodies from either the federal or state government, and pay taxes, including federal income taxes.

Now, back to the issue - independent analysis of the result of these tax cuts shows massive budget shortfalls in several years.

As I said, we seem to have been doing fine with moderate leadership for quite a while, and I predict we will do much worse with this governor, especially if conservatives take over the legislature as well.

It is true that we won't know the full effects for a little while, but Brownback is already preparing people for a slowed economy, and cuts in services/budgets, while denying any responsibility for those outcomes.


jafs 5 years, 8 months ago

Again, personal insults that aren't warranted.

I've read the Bible quite a bit, majored in religious studies, and seriously considered the ministry several times.

The vast majority of Jesus' teachings are found nowhere in the posts of many on here who call themselves Christians.

Jesus preached love, compassion, generosity, charity, refraining from judgement, etc.

He didn't suggest that one attack people because one disagrees with their political views, or try to demean them with evidence-free accusations.

Dan Eyler 5 years, 8 months ago

Kansas has been bleeding jobs and population compared to all neighboring states for years. So called moderate leadership which is made up of democrats and liberal republicans hasn't been working. Kansas is one of the highest taxed population in the country. Taxes are driving away business and people. The tax base is shrinking. The so called moderates have not put forward a single plan for job growth. Nothing. But they do have a plan to increase government spending for foodstamps, medicaid, birth control pills, cell phones, subsidized housing and transportation, disability benefits.......but not a single mention of job creation. Their message is hopelessness and dependence on the shrinking number of tax payers. Tells us how you're going to create jobs and put people to work. Actually I am starting to believe the democrats and liberal republican plan is a work or no work option. If you decide not to work the plan is to make it okay and the shrinking number of those working can cover the non-working class.

Bob_Keeshan 5 years, 8 months ago

Except for Kansas had its longest run of consecutive months of job growth in several decades from 2004 to 2008 and was pacing the region. Kansas job growth also continued deeper into 2008 than surrounding states and the Kansas budget deficit was less severe than in neighboring states.

Except for that, you are so right. Then again, that refutes pretty much all of your argument. Best job growth in the state is in Wyandotte County.

Scott Tichenor 5 years, 8 months ago

I'm a job creator. Here's what I'm going to do with the money I don't pay the state in taxes: I'm keeping it. I'm not spending it, I'm not hiring anyone, I'm not tooling up. Nada. All this amounts to is a boon for those of us fortunate enough to call our own shots. However, we'll pay many times over in what's lost for schools, roads, etc.

This is a sham to make the wealthy wealthier. Don't include myself in that bracket but it's easy to see what's really going on here. This shouldn't fool anyone.

chootspa 5 years, 8 months ago

Even if I bought your premise that the banking sector created jobs, you've got no guarantee that those investments will stay local. In fact, you can pretty much guarantee that your money is going to go "work" out of state.

Tracy Rogers 5 years, 8 months ago

I think Sherriene Jones-Sontag and SageonPage are one and the same.

chootspa 5 years, 8 months ago

Nah. Jones-Sontag is paid for her opinions. SageonPage gives us the crazy for free.

headdoctor 5 years, 8 months ago

Yup, and it seems the crazy always gets ramped up during the full moon. If you were going to pick a similar person to Sage a safer bet would be Michele Bachmann. She is just plain bat guano crazy.

John Hamm 5 years, 8 months ago

To a Liberal any budget cut is "harmful." One of these days one of them will realize money does not grow on trees or the federal printing press. I only hope to live to see that day.

notajayhawk 5 years, 8 months ago

Gee, Democrats don't like tax cuts. I'm shocked and amazed. -_-

This is news why, again?

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