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Libya response

September 22, 2012


To the editor:

This is a response to “Libya answers” (Public Forum, Sept. 18).

You did well, hitting all the main Republican/teabag talking points with broad strokes. “A” for hitting the mark. “F” for content.n enemy killed Chris Stevens; I doubt they hate all things American. The attack on the consulate was well-coordinated. They were likely disaffected Moammar Gadhafi military striking back at someone supporting the current Libyan government. They were not raging Islamic terrorists filled with hatred for America. If that were the case, why is the Libyan government actively hunting for those who killed Chris Stevens?

This administration is not weak and does not bow to “Arab” heads of state. If it were, we would not be supporting the Libyan government, working with the Egyptian government and so on.

The withdrawal deadlines were designed to get us out of an unsustainable and undeclared war.

President Obama was not apologizing for America. The Washington Post checked all such statements it could find and found them without merit. One source checked was Romney’s 2010 book, which was based on statements taken out of context.

President Obama made himself a target when he ran for president and was elected. Not all of those gunning for him are from the Middle East. Many are from our own country. Look at the Fort Stewart soldiers recently arrested for attempting an armed overthrow of the U.S. government.

Any president would have said we got Osama bin Laden. Our soldiers found Saddam Hussein; President Bush commented on it. Is that bragging or simply stating a fact?


kansanbygrace 1 year, 6 months ago

I was offended by the same things the Tea Party was expressing. I was offended by the multiplication of a more invasive government, the government restricting more of our liberty, the same government throwing enormous amounts of money where it was not needed and was not paid for. That was in 1992. If the Tea Party had made their very arguments seven years earlier, their position would be stronger.


Liberal 1 year, 6 months ago

Teabaggers is offensive. People can disagree without name calling. People do not need to be hoodwinked into believing something about another individual as a result of being called names. Let's examine people's ideas on both sides of an issue and see if they are acting on the level and really believe they are doing the right thing from their perspective for the country.

I suspect they are. The heart will not pump with out the brain and the brain will die without the heart.. All of us need to work together and find ways we can take what is best about both ways of thinking and have them work together.

The Tea Party was formed as a result of an out of control democratic party that even with wide disagreement with how to reform healthcare they shoved it down our throat anyway. Many in the Tea Party were democrats as well as republicans. A government acting in a tyrannical manner should be opposed. The dissatisfaction of the people was heard loud and clear in 2010 and a correction was made to the power structure in Washington. The occupy movement was a similar reaction, the funny part is that the Tea Party and Occupy often talk about the same things.

What I get tired of is people who mindlessly suggest one course of action with out thinking about the consequences or in other words. Sure I would love to fly to Alaska, but if I do, do I have enough money to feed my family? If the answer is no than I should not go to Alaska. We are not only going to Alaska we are hitting Australia and making our way to Norway as well. Problem is we are not paying for it, we are expecting future generations to make it right.


JHOK32 1 year, 6 months ago

I suppose Bush's "foreign policy" is considered a raving "success?"

  1. Bush invaded a country that had nothing to do with 911, but everything to do with big oil (Exxon-Mobil posted the hughest profits during this period in all of American history);
  2. The "conservative GOP Bush" spent $Trillions of OUR tax dollars so that Exxon-Mobil could post these outrageous profits, then gave CEO's $Millions of dollars in bonuses on the backs of the U.S. taxpayer.
  3. Bush killed over 100,000 Iraqi civilians & 4000 of our own kids searching for "Weapons of Mass Destruction." (yeah right, I'm surprised Bush didn't buy up ocean front property in Arizona with taxpayer money - it would have made just as much sense.

Liberal 1 year, 6 months ago

  1. Apology to France and Europe ("America Has Shown Arrogance")

Speech by President Obama, Rhenus Sports Arena, Strasbourg, France, April 3, 2009.[1] So we must be honest with ourselves. In recent years we've allowed our Alliance to drift. I know that there have been honest disagreements over policy, but we also know that there's something more that has crept into our relationship. In America, there's a failure to appreciate Europe's leading role in the world. Instead of celebrating your dynamic union and seeking to partner with you to meet common challenges, there have been times where America has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive.

  1. Apology to the Muslim World ("We Have Not Been Perfect")

President Obama, interview with Al Arabiya, January 27, 2009.[2] My job to the Muslim world is to communicate that the Americans are not your enemy. We sometimes make mistakes. We have not been perfect. But if you look at the track record, as you say, America was not born as a colonial power, and that the same respect and partnership that America had with the Muslim world as recently as 20 or 30 years ago, there's no reason why we can't restore that.

  1. Apology to the Summit of the Americas ("At Times We Sought to Dictate Our Terms")

President Obama, address to the Summit of the Americas opening ceremony, Hyatt Regency, Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago, April 17, 2009.[3] All of us must now renew the common stake that we have in one another. I know that promises of partnership have gone unfulfilled in the past, and that trust has to be earned over time. While the United States has done much to promote peace and prosperity in the hemisphere, we have at times been disengaged, and at times we sought to dictate our terms. But I pledge to you that we seek an equal partnership. There is no senior partner and junior partner in our relations; there is simply engagement based on mutual respect and common interests and shared values. So I'm here to launch a new chapter of engagement that will be sustained throughout my administration. The United States will be willing to acknowledge past errors where those errors have been made.


kippcolorado 1 year, 6 months ago

Great response, Ralph. Way too many TeaBaggers on here with nothing to do but spout right-wing nonsense. They make me ashamed of my native state, along with the ridiculous birther/brownbach/kovach/koch CrazyTrain that you have installed in Topeka. Opal Jayne Kennedy would be ashamed of the Kansas Republicans. Right, Ralph? And if you don't know who Miss Kennedy was and how she influenced a generation, then you may not have any true "conservative Kansas values". Y'all really need to pull your heads out of the sand and figure out your politics...or, you could just continue to get older, poorer, and dumber. Which is exactly what your TeaBag heroes have in mind for you. Cheers!


JonasGrumby 1 year, 6 months ago

Teabag? Did the J-W seriously print that?


atiopatioo 1 year, 6 months ago

Lincoln was a man who created himself from nothing without any help from outside or other people. I followed his struggles. I see certain similarities between him and me.

The Pittsburgh Press (3 August 1986) "Gadhafi, the man the world loves to hate" by Marie Colvin (UPI)

Nothing would please me more, but who else would pump the oil that we need? God damn America.

Response to a question on expelling Americans from Libya (March 1973), quoted in Time (2 April 1973) "The Arab World: Oil, Power, Violence"

You Americans need to realize that the word Petrodollars have been removed from your lexicon several years ago. Many countries are moving away from the dollar to buy oil in the open market.

Libya, Iraq et. al. were attacks to continue the support of Petrodollars. It is all about the oil. America does not want countries to use other currencies for oil trade. Iran and China and India have already moved away from the dollar.


Achmed_McGillicutty 1 year, 6 months ago

I know it stings for many who still support Obama that the mid-east is going up in anti-American hatred flames. Obama vowed he was the one who could start the healing and bridge the gap between Arab/Muslim nations and America after that swaggerin' cowboy mucked things all up. Of course, like almost every fundamental transforming thing Obama has done, it's been epic fail.


Achmed_McGillicutty 1 year, 6 months ago

Some strong Kool-Aid, Ralph? Unbelievable. Susan Rice spent her entire Sunday last weekend doing exactly what you said the Obama administration did not do. I think someone needs a little sunshine and fresh air (and cut down on the Kool-Aid). Try some pedialite, as you could possibly be a little dehydrated and suffering slight confusion and memory loss.


WristTwister 1 year, 6 months ago

This LTE must have been written before Obama and Clinton finally got around to calling the Libya assault a terrorist attack. It did not take a rocket scientist to determine this in the beginning. The currrent administration is either naive, stupid, or lying. I submit that it's a combination of all three. The Obama foreign policy is a massive fail. It's time to end the madness in November.


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