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Libya response

September 22, 2012

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To the editor:

This is a response to “Libya answers” (Public Forum, Sept. 18).

You did well, hitting all the main Republican/teabag talking points with broad strokes. “A” for hitting the mark. “F” for content.n enemy killed Chris Stevens; I doubt they hate all things American. The attack on the consulate was well-coordinated. They were likely disaffected Moammar Gadhafi military striking back at someone supporting the current Libyan government. They were not raging Islamic terrorists filled with hatred for America. If that were the case, why is the Libyan government actively hunting for those who killed Chris Stevens?

This administration is not weak and does not bow to “Arab” heads of state. If it were, we would not be supporting the Libyan government, working with the Egyptian government and so on.

The withdrawal deadlines were designed to get us out of an unsustainable and undeclared war.

President Obama was not apologizing for America. The Washington Post checked all such statements it could find and found them without merit. One source checked was Romney’s 2010 book, which was based on statements taken out of context.

President Obama made himself a target when he ran for president and was elected. Not all of those gunning for him are from the Middle East. Many are from our own country. Look at the Fort Stewart soldiers recently arrested for attempting an armed overthrow of the U.S. government.

Any president would have said we got Osama bin Laden. Our soldiers found Saddam Hussein; President Bush commented on it. Is that bragging or simply stating a fact?

Comments

tomatogrower 2 years, 3 months ago

So "disaffected Moammar Gadhafi military" aren't terrorists? Why not? Do you have more respect for "disaffected Moammar Gadhafi military", than you do terrorists? I think they are on of the same - murderers. In fact, let's stop calling them anything but murderers. There's an even better label.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 3 months ago

You'd be saying the same thing no matter how they reacted to this event.

And if Romney were president, and he reacted exactly the way the Obama Admin. has, you'd likely be falling all over yourself with praise.

Getaroom 2 years, 3 months ago

You express ignorance of simple facts, FactTwister.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 3 months ago

"I think someone needs a little sunshine and fresh air"

Maybe you should invite him out to the Linwood countryside.

kippcolorado 2 years, 3 months ago

Great response, Ralph. Way too many TeaBaggers on here with nothing to do but spout right-wing nonsense. They make me ashamed of my native state, along with the ridiculous birther/brownbach/kovach/koch CrazyTrain that you have installed in Topeka. Opal Jayne Kennedy would be ashamed of the Kansas Republicans. Right, Ralph? And if you don't know who Miss Kennedy was and how she influenced a generation, then you may not have any true "conservative Kansas values". Y'all really need to pull your heads out of the sand and figure out your politics...or, you could just continue to get older, poorer, and dumber. Which is exactly what your TeaBag heroes have in mind for you. Cheers!

jafs 2 years, 3 months ago

All of those seem to be reasonably accurate to me.

Do you think America is perfect, makes no mistakes, and hasn't been arrogant in it's dealings with other nations?

JHOK32 2 years, 3 months ago

I suppose Bush's "foreign policy" is considered a raving "success?"

  1. Bush invaded a country that had nothing to do with 911, but everything to do with big oil (Exxon-Mobil posted the hughest profits during this period in all of American history);
  2. The "conservative GOP Bush" spent $Trillions of OUR tax dollars so that Exxon-Mobil could post these outrageous profits, then gave CEO's $Millions of dollars in bonuses on the backs of the U.S. taxpayer.
  3. Bush killed over 100,000 Iraqi civilians & 4000 of our own kids searching for "Weapons of Mass Destruction." (yeah right, I'm surprised Bush didn't buy up ocean front property in Arizona with taxpayer money - it would have made just as much sense.

jafs 2 years, 3 months ago

Except that it's clear in hindsight that Bush ignored certain intelligence and exaggerated other intelligence, and specifically made connections that were false - eg. Iraq is connected to Al-Quaeda and the 9/11 attacks.

Also, SH was an ally, who we armed and trained - when we did that, his horribleness didn't seem to be much of an issue. It only became one later on.

Corey Williams 2 years, 3 months ago

61% of house democrats and 42% of senate democrats voted against it. And it was "...to authorize President Bush to attack Iraq if Saddam Hussein refuses to give up weapons of mass destruction as required by U.N. resolutions." http://articles.cnn.com/2002-10-11/politics/iraq.us_1_biological-weapons-weapons-inspectors-iraq?_s=PM:ALLPOLITICS

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/no-wmds-in-iraq/ But with no WMDs to give up, we couldn't have attacked.

jafs 2 years, 3 months ago

I like your first paragraphs a lot, and hope we can talk without insults, and find the best solutions for our problems as well.

The TP was formed as a reaction to the fact that both parties have shown little to no fiscal responsibility for many years, though, in my view.

Agreed - both of those groups are tired of the status quo, and want the government to work better. They just have very different ideas about what that would mean.

deec 2 years, 3 months ago

It's kind of funny that people only got offended about the budget and stuff when a Democratic president took over. they sure weren't organizing when the previous president was in office.

The movement sure grew fast, but I suppose it's easy to do when you have Koch money backing you up.

Corey Williams 2 years, 3 months ago

Or when Reagan left us with $3 trillion in debt. Where was the outrage about borrowing against our future then?

kippcolorado 2 years, 3 months ago

Teabaggers are indeed offensive. I relish the idea of insulting you and your nasty little group of haters. You're Teabagger temper tantrum over the past two years has bored the American people and exposed your quest for for legitimized social selfishness. Prepare to have your Teabagger asses kicked in the national political arena. But not in Taliban Teabagger Kansas, since there are no more responsible adults in Republican politics there. I'm turning your racist, homophobic, paranoid, un-American, Teabagger behaviors right back on you. Think it's only Teabaggers who can raise hell with others in a public setting? Guess again. I'm here, I'm standing with Ralph and the rest of the Lawrence natives I grew up with there 50 years ago when people learned common-sense Kansas values and respect for our government. I will call your offensive Teabagger "movement" whatever I damn well please. Where's your birth certificate? Teabagger.

Corey Williams 2 years, 3 months ago

"Wipe the spittle from your chin, it is really unattractive."

homechanger 2 years, 3 months ago

Corey you just proved his point, thanks.

kansanbygrace 2 years, 3 months ago

I was offended by the same things the Tea Party was expressing. I was offended by the multiplication of a more invasive government, the government restricting more of our liberty, the same government throwing enormous amounts of money where it was not needed and was not paid for. That was in 1992. If the Tea Party had made their very arguments seven years earlier, their position would be stronger.

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