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Let it go

The efforts of some Kansas officials to belabor the issue of President Obama’s citizenship reflect poorly on the state.

September 17, 2012

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The issue of President Barack Obama’s citizenship has been settled, and the decision of Kansas officials to try to keep it alive was both a waste of time and an embarrassment to the state.

Last week, the State Objections Board heard several ballot challenges, including one from a Manhattan resident who claimed Obama was not eligible to be president because his father was from Kenya and not an American citizen. He based his claim that both of Obama’s parents had to be citizens in order for Obama to be a citizen on U.S. Supreme Court cases, some of them more than 100 years old.

The members of the state board are Secretary of State Kris Kobach, Attorney General Derek Schmidt and Lt. Gov. Jeff Colyer. The two attorneys on the board — Kobach and Schmidt — dismissed the legal basis for the claim saying the Manhattan resident was “trying to read too much into” the court cases.

At that point, it would have been logical to simply deny the objection and move on. Instead, the board decided to delay its decision until today while asking for additional documentation certifying Obama’s birth certificate. They indicated they wanted the state to have its own certified documents from the state of Hawaii. This is in spite of the fact that Obama already has made such a document public, and that the U.S. Supreme Court has refused to even hear an appeal challenging the president’s U.S. citizenship.

On Friday, the Manhattan man dropped his objection to Obama being on the state’s November ballot. Without the objection, Kobach said, there was no possibility the board would take Obama’s name off the ballot, but the board still would meet today to close the case and add whatever additional information is available to the record.

Hopefully, that is the end of this matter and state officials now can get on to more important business. Belaboring this issue only makes the state and some of its top elected officials look silly.

Comments

tbaker 1 year, 6 months ago

Its not where Mr. Obama was born that matters. It's where he lives now thats the problem.

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commonsenseanyone 1 year, 6 months ago

Hipgal, your time is over. The bums lost.

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Sharon Nottingham 1 year, 6 months ago

Common Sense, Brownback sucks and Obama will be re-elected. Try to come to terms with that.

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commonsenseanyone 1 year, 6 months ago

Actually, what's most embarrassing for Kansas are most of these rediculous comments by all of you left wing crazies. How on earth does the first comment start talking about Brownback and Kobach? You people have lost it.

Brownback has a lot better chance of being reelected then Obama. Deal with it. You lefties make lawrencians look bad.

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gbulldog 1 year, 7 months ago

What is worse is denying free speech. And then trying to destroy the person for doing free speech. Think Fred Phelps. Now think about the importance of a Free Press to this country. Would you publish anything negative about Obama it you had to put up with the mob that happened in Topeka (both outside and inside). Where are the legal experts on this issue.

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Cait McKnelly 1 year, 7 months ago

Get ready for more feces to come into violent contact with the rotating oscillator. Tim Huelskamp's remarks at the "Value Voters Summit" calling Planned Parenthood a "racist organization" and comparing abortion to slavery have hit the internet and have been rapidly picked up by the main stream media.
Is it me or are the voices really becoming just a bit shriller?

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oldbaldguy 1 year, 7 months ago

Isn't this all a Mormon plot to implement polygamy across the nation? Remember the Mountain Meadow Massacre!

Kansas has always had its wacky politicians. Remember James Lane?

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nugget 1 year, 7 months ago

And... coming down the home stretch it appears Kansas has taken the lead over South Carolina AND Arizona as the state with the most out-of-touch politicians in the United States. By the time Sam and Co. are done it won't even be a close race.

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Fred Whitehead Jr. 1 year, 7 months ago

"one term president"???? Don't get your hopes up, Romney is down by the head and sinking fast. Thank goodness!! I can hardley wait for the debates.

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Armstrong 1 year, 7 months ago

It really makes no difference if Barry is on the ballot or not. History will remember Barry as a do nothing one term president.

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headdoctor 1 year, 7 months ago

Since the time had already passed for objections and the fact that Obama has spent well over three years in office, the objection shouldn't have made it any farther than the trash can. If it would have been any other sort of objection to government circumstances and especially one that didn't include Obama that is where it would have been put in the beginning with no pomp and circumstance.

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yourworstnightmare 1 year, 7 months ago

"Belaboring this issue only makes the state and some of its top elected officials look silly."

Nail on the head.

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fiddleback 1 year, 7 months ago

Maybe it’s overstating a silver lining, but I’m glad this happened as it did. Kansas has always been known for boorish zealotry, so what’s one more yokel added to that list? To me, it was worth it to see Kobach illustrate so clearly, as even the LJW will acknowledge, that his bitter partisanship trumps any basic logic. Afterall, any idiot could use the same outdated SCOTUS decisions to argue that Romney isn’t American as his father was born in Mexico, and could also then allege that his birth certificate was a forgery produced by some shadowy cabal to hide that Romney is, in fact, a (poorly-programmed) cyborg. Somehow I can’t quite imagine Kobach requesting a copy of that certificate from Michigan…esp. if it had been verified by previous courts.

Now we can view his brilliant immigration and voter ID legislation with a better understanding of just how color-blind and impartial that preeminent legal mind of Mr. Kobach’s really is…

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Fred Whitehead Jr. 1 year, 7 months ago

The clueless, addled voters of Kansas in their slavish devotion to "God", Rush Limbaugh, and the tea bag party elected this total jerk to be their "Secretary of State" So far, Kobach has been employed by many states who want to enact his crusade to disenfranchise any voters who would have the temerity to vote Democratic. (Not, "Democrat", Fox News).

What we now have is a public official who devotes much of his time to this completely discredited Donald Trump crusade his elected office responsibilities notwithstanding.

So what recourse do we have? Are we constrained to pay this absentee employee who makes a mockery of issues that have already been completely settled by the U.S. Supreme Court? Do we have to endure his never-ending crusade to establish a facist party government in Kansas and ultamately in the United States.

We have seen this before. Are the citizens of Kansas going to continue to stand for this useless and lazy political wonk who seems to regard his responsibilities as secondary to preventing people from voting who disagree with the nominated national candidates? Can anyone get something started to remove this stain on our state?????????

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 1 year, 7 months ago

Looks like Mrs. P got sent back to Linwood.

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MrsPeenman_III 1 year, 7 months ago

I wouldn't care if Obama was hatched in a chicken coop in Iowa so long as he was not a lousy, socialist fraud of a commander in chief. Shockingly, he's been successful at convincing much of the electorate that the economy ain't so bad and he's made leaps and bounds from cleaning up the GOP's mess.....yes almost four years later. He's begged for more time, and "hope and change" is now "forward". Uh-huh.

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MrsPeenman_III 1 year, 7 months ago

Sane folks have to "let it go" that while campaigning last time around, Obama sold to the nation that giving the fact he was raised in or visited many Muslim countries as a youth, he was going to bridge the gap between Islam and the rest of the world. We've seen how well that has worked.

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MrsPeenman_III 1 year, 7 months ago

When will Obama "let it go" regarding Romney's tax returns for the past ten years. He only wants them out there so his gutter campaign can say, "See, here is a 1 percenter who does not care about the middle class and will screw you". When will Obama release his Occidental application and records? Let it go? Go!

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MrsPeenman_III 1 year, 7 months ago

Bush haters didn't "let it go" regarding W's ANG records did they? It ended the career of one of the most "prominent" leftist journalist, Dan Rather and his producer too at CBS, but some still clung to the notion. Yeah, let it go. Sure.

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SageonPage 1 year, 7 months ago

"This is in spite of the fact that Obama already has made such a document public" http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/13/obama-birther-new-jersey-judge-decision_n_1423217.html I guess the LJW Editorial board missed the fact that a legal hearing in New Jersey determined that the 'Birth Certificate' offered to the public by the White House last April is fraudulent. Obama's own attorney in that hearing stated it as such, and the friendly Judge ruled in favor of obama. This should have been taken care of four years ago, but we are stuck with the fraud and will have to vote him out in November.

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JohnBrown 1 year, 7 months ago

Actually, Merrill, the party that Brownback and Kobach belong to is the American Taliban. All Taliban, middle eastern or American, believe in big government running peoples lives and telling them how to behave. For example, the American Taliban want to put big government between a woman and her doctor; where as the middle eastern Taliban would simply have her stoned. The only difference is that the American Taliban say "do as we say or we'll jail you", whereas the middle eastern Taliban say "do as we say or we'll kill you".

JohnBrown

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boystevie 1 year, 7 months ago

We should not let it go, because it can happen again. Kobach has been sucked into his own national ambitions and will continue to try and get his name in the national headlines regardless of the consequences to Kansas.

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overplayedhistory 1 year, 7 months ago

Subconscious/conscious racism + black President = factually challenged individual

Willfully factually challenge if you are a consciously overt racist.

it is that simple.

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Peter Macfarlane 1 year, 7 months ago

Another blemish on the State's image courtesy of Republicans!

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Carol Bowen 1 year, 7 months ago

Too late. This already made national news.

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Richard Heckler 1 year, 7 months ago

Now for the history of the Rt Wing Libertarian Neocon Fundamentalist Tea Party for Economic Terrorism. This party began eliminating republicans in 1982 during the Reagan/Bush days. Now the Rt Wing Libertarian Neocon Fundamentalist Tea Party for Economic Terrorism is posing as republican.

In fact neither the USA nor Kansas can afford this reckless Sam Brownback party. The evidence is clear and concise.

This ENTITLEMENT - Bailing out The Reagan/Bush Savings and Loan Heist aka home loan scandal sent the economy out the window costing taxpayers many many $$ trillions (Cost taxpayers $1.4 trillion), Plus millions of jobs, loss of retirement plans and loss of medical insurance. http://rationalrevolution0.tripod.com/war/bush_family_and_the_s.htm

This ENTITLEMENT Bailing out the Bush/Cheney Home Loan Wall Street Bank Fraud cost consumers $ trillions, millions of jobs, loss of retirement plans and loss of medical insurance. Exactly like the Reagan/Bush home loan scam. Déjà vu can we say. Yep seems to be a pattern. http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2009/0709macewan.html

This ENTITLEMENT - Bush/Cheney implied many financial institutions were at risk instead of only 3? One of the biggest lies perpetrated to American citizens. Where did this money go? Why were some banks forced to take bail out money? http://www.democracynow.org/2009/9/10/good_billions_after_bad_one_year

Big debt and super duper bailouts HAVE BEEN the results which does not seem to bother the Rt Wing Libertarian Neocon Fundamentalist Tea Party for Economic Terrorism as long as they are in power.

In fact, by the time the second Bush left office, the national debt had grown to $12.1 trillion. This ENTITLEMENT represents over half the cost of Bush’s tax cuts for the very wealthy.

This ENTITLEMENT - Another 30% of the national debt had been created by the tax cuts for the wealthy under Presidents Reagan and George H.W. Bush.

This ENTITLEMENT - Fully 81% of the national debt was created by just these three Republican Presidents. http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2010/0111orr.html

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Richard Heckler 1 year, 7 months ago

How many got duped into believing they had voted republican when voting for Sam Brownback?

What's missing is the fiscal conservative side and respect for the office of the president.

Remember Sam Brownback was in the beltway when HIS party decided to put the best for America aside. The Brownback Party agenda of controlling the USA government with more big government and halting job growth and economic growth for America takes center stage.

What is the Sam Brownback Party? The Rt Wing Libertarian Neocon Fundamentalist Tea Party for Economic Terrorism posing as republicans. This party has a long term agenda that has killed approximately 20 million jobs and taken out the USA economy twice using big time fraud as the tools.

How do we know this? History provides the evidence that the Rt Wing Libertarian Neocon Fundamentalist Tea Party for Economic Terrorism posing as republicans cannot manage government or an economy.

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