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Letter: Accountability

October 20, 2012

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To the editor:

Incumbent politicians from both sides of the aisle have done and continue to do great harm to our nation. They remain in power because of an apathetic electorate that has not held them responsible for their actions. Regardless of our political affiliation, there is nothing patriotic about supporting any candidate that imposes laws on the American people while exempting themselves from these same laws. We cannot allow our democracy to be replaced by aristocratic form of government.

The electorate’s most important function should be the monitoring of government officials’ actions in regards to national security. Each of us must decide if our government officials are telling the American people the truth or are they engaging in a cover-up because of their incompetence.

Every American should be outraged by the irreparable harm perpetrated on our men and women in uniform following the Osama bin Laden mission. Politicians were so eager to take credit for this mission that they were willing to compromise the security of our special forces and their families by identifying their specific unit. Not only did this treasonous act compromise the security of the United States but it also aided our enemies.

The Osama bin Laden mission, Fast and Furious gun-trafficking and the recent attack on our embassy in Benghazi leave the American people with many unanswered questions.

We the people have an obligation to replace any aristocratic POTUS or government official with the power of our vote.

Comments

jafs 2 years, 2 months ago

If you seek the truth, you'd be well advised not to watch Fox News.

It's been well documented that they lie and misrepresent things, and that viewers are routinely less well informed than those who get their information from other sources.

jhawkinsf 2 years, 2 months ago

Fox has been totally discredited. That's why so many choose to link someone to Fox when they disagree. Just say Romney/Fox, see, Romney gets discredited simply by being linked to Fox. Then there's Obama/Socialist. Nothing more than intellectual laziness.

Fred Mertz 2 years, 2 months ago

jafs - can you paste a link from a credible source that shows Fox lies?

I do recall errors in the past that they admited, but I think all media makes mistakes from time to time. Intentionally lying is different and I'd like to see where they doctored a tape or something similar.

Thanks in advance.

jafs 2 years, 2 months ago

I imagine a quick google search would find what you're asking for.

There's an interesting study of how they manipulate viewers as well, which should be easy to find.

Also, if I recall correctly, they've sued for the right to use the word "news", but not be held accountable for telling the truth on that program.

The information that regular Fox News viewers are less well informed, by quite a bit, than those who get information from other sources is also well documented.

Fred Mertz 2 years, 2 months ago

I did do a search even before posting and found nothing to support your claim that it is well documented that they lie.

If it is well documented then you should be able to provide me with just one link to show that they intentionally lie and have been discredited.

And, keep in mind that they have both news and entertainment programs. If you are going to hold Fox accountable for news, then you also have to hold CNN and others accountable for Sharpton, Maddow, etc. They are talk show hosts who use hyperbole, play loose and fast with the facts for entertainment.

Most can distinguish between the two, but some can't and think Hannity is a news caster.

jafs 2 years, 2 months ago

See deec's link - thanks for the assist.

foxnewslies.net

If I have a show called "news", then I think that comes with the responsibility to present news rather than entertainment, regardless of who does it.

You could also check out deec's other link, about how Fox viewers are more uninformed than others.

The study about the techniques used to manipulate viewers is very interesting as well - you can see many of those techniques used by regular posters to this forum.

Fred Mertz 2 years, 2 months ago

Come on jafs, I expect better from you. deec's link proves nothing. It is a site dedicated to bashing Fox. Just because one site says it is true doesn't make it true.

You said it is well documented so there should be plenty of information out there.

O'Reilly and Hannity aren't called news shows are they? CNN calls itself a news station. Can you in all honestly say that Maddow never stretches the truth? How about Sharpton on CNBC?

And, the network shows havee all had their problems, faking car explosions, faking documents attacking Bush and so on.

Why single out Fox unless you're just bashing them which is not something I'd expect from you.

jafs 2 years, 2 months ago

I can't help you anymore.

That link provides detailed information about Fox lies, and uses a variety of sources, like factcheck.com, to document them.

I don't watch any cable news, because we don't get those channels, so I can't comment on CNN, etc. Generally speaking, I'd say that a news station should provide news, not entertainment.

Did you even look at the many examples of lies on that site? There are plenty to choose from.

msezdsit 2 years, 2 months ago

Fox lies because they know that people like you will believe them. That is maybe the only thing they are right on. I prefer to make my choices and decisions based on facts. To each their own, but don't try to make other people out to be as gullible as you are just because they aren't.

msezdsit 2 years, 2 months ago

How about the "you didn't build that" taken out of context and then played as if that is what was really said. I watched the presidents speech and was appalled at their audacity to completely misconstrue what the president said and then to keep repeating for weeks on end. How about all the programming that spewed about how a president is not responsible for gas prices when Bush was president and then telling you how its all Obama's fault that the gas prices are high. How is it that fox can have it any way the want according to whomever they are falsely supporting.

Liberty275 2 years, 2 months ago

You can approximate general opinion from various news sources and you can troll mathematics websites for statistics. I'm suspicious of anyone that doesn't realize truth is merely neurons firing inside their brain firing.

As for Fox news their girls are easier on the eyes. That's a better criteria than political slant.

2 years, 2 months ago

"Politicians were so eager to take credit for this mission that they were willing to compromise the security of our special forces and their families by identifying their specific unit"

The commander in chief of the armed forces has every right to publicly identify the units involved in action under his authority. But it is rather ironic to hear the letter-writer complain that the president is leaving Americans with "many unanswered questions" while at the same time complaining that the President is answering the obvious question, "Who killed bin Ladin?".

Babylon 2 years, 2 months ago

Current TV would be a good place to start as they are not owned by one of the huge trans-national media conglomerates such as Clear Channell.

yanman 2 years, 2 months ago

Obama told us he would have the most transparent administration in history when he was elected. I can't think of a more crooked administration in history than his. How can anyone consider voting for this guy again just stuns me.

Getaroom 2 years, 2 months ago

This is what can be expected from those who support only the Aristocracy. Willard is simply doing what any member of the Aristocracy is already doing - Worshiping MONEY. He and his Corporate buddies want more MONEY. If elected why would we expect him to be any different, it is all he has ever cared about because Profits mean more MONEY. After they privatize everything in sight there will be even more profits to share between them. And he has his magician mathematician buddy, Pope Paul Ryan, at his side to pretend they care about the "little people" and they will fix everything first day in office and people like Mr. Herynk will have everything they need, or more of what they already have. Corporate America already controls most of BIG GOV and they just want to make it Officially corrupt. Willard is right when he says he has the experience to run a business, he has done it before. If what we want in this country is a Big Business like government then he is the man for it.
But he is not President of The United States Of America however, Pres. Obama is, and it needs to stay that way for one more term. Let people such as Mr. Herynk start a new country and they can call it "The United Free Market Capitalist Corporation Of America" and Willard and his friends can run that as they want and happily create profits for their investors. I suppose some would call that a Democracy, but that would be just another lie, similar to what we have now.

sueherynk7 2 years, 2 months ago

It's no wonder we are in the mess we are in when people think like you do and hide behind a cute little sign in name to boot.

Liberty275 2 years, 2 months ago

That was fun. We need a "post a music video" thread.

beatrice 2 years, 2 months ago

Presidents can't protect all Americans at all times in every part of the world.

Abdu Omar 2 years, 2 months ago

Being a senior citizen retired and living off a small pension and social security, I am afraid of Romney and Ryan. I couldn't live on vouchers and the like and I can't understand why they want to take away the right I earned in 50+ years working. Romney, Ryan, Fox news and others have twisted most things I read about and consequently many people are mis informed. Combine it with the FACT that the corporate world owns the congress and would own the president too, if Romney is elected. We do not need a corporation to run this country, we need representative government of the people, by the people, FOR the people. This is the only way we can exist and remain a country.

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