Archive for Saturday, October 13, 2012

Letter: Job spin

October 13, 2012


To the editor:

We were recently greeted with the information that the jobless rate has dropped below the 8 percent level. To most citizens who would wish that this improvement would continue, this is great news. But what do we hear from the political machine? Rush Limbaugh has claimed that the “regime” (as he calls the current administration) has manipulated the numbers. Other “conservative” voices have also dismissed this news as false, fraudulent and otherwise unsatisfactory to their drumbeat that the current president has “failed.”

We the citizens want a government that is engaged in making our lives more livable, and a significant part of this is the availability of jobs and the decrease of unemployment.

Fabricating lines of attack against the current administration is not what we want to hear.

So, I ask, what is it going to be, Republicans? Is it going to be my way or the highway? Is the glass half full or half empty? Is this good news for the country? Or is it just a reduction in the size of the hammer you need to continue pounding on the current administration? I am listening right now to Gov. Romney trashing this positive news that we have received.

Americans are concerned that whoever is in office is in favor of good unemployment reduction news and not real impressed with those who would spin it to their political advantage.


bisky1 5 years, 6 months ago

What's going on? Maybe it's because for these numbers to be true the economy would have to be ripping along at 5 to 8 percent, maybe it's because the number of people in the work force is so much smaller than it was four years ago. Most importantly this adminstration has a track record of saying anything, true or false, and their followers choose to believe it without question.

parrothead8 5 years, 6 months ago

It's funny how the GOP has seized on the unemployment figures published by the Bureau of Labor Statistics for the last several years as evidence of how poorly Obama is doing, but as soon as the same Bureau publishes a number they don't like, it's all bunk.

parrothead8 5 years, 6 months ago

What does that have to do with the employment figures? Also, are you claiming that the Romney campaign hasn't done the same thing?

Armstrong 5 years, 6 months ago

U 6 has a more reliable number as it takes into consideration numerous factors of the unemployment picture. Under employed, quit looking, seasonal temps..... bisky1 is correct about the 5 - 8 % we would need to achieve the numbers claimed by Barry and company.

May be a good idea to question what is being passed off as fact. Numbers can be manipulated and elections have concequences.

bisky1 5 years, 6 months ago

An administration that was honest would say, while these numbers are encourging we know that millions of Americans are not employed and we will now start to do the things necessary to increase employment.

John Hamm 5 years, 6 months ago

I'm still going with the California data wasn't reported. The denials are worded such that they weren't "excluded" but don't specifically state they were "fully" included.......... "A Labor Dept analyst told Business Insider that California was simply short-staffed and running late, and missed filing 15,000-25,000 claims by the deadline. Those claims will be included in next week's report, so the number will rise again. With those claims included in this week's report, the jobless number would be about 355,000-365,000, very similar to the 370,000 expected. So no conspiracy – just an accounting error."

Corey Williams 5 years, 6 months ago

Why should we worry about people who have given up looking for work? What kind of work ethic allows them to just stop looking?

Clara Westphal 5 years, 6 months ago

Many people who have jobs are receiving low pay and some are working part-time.

bisky1 5 years, 6 months ago

paulveer, are you one of the followers?

Armstrong 5 years, 6 months ago

@ paulveer, why don't you just post " I don't question what the regiem puts out as fact ". There saved ya more trolling.

paulveer 5 years, 6 months ago

FYI, I believe most politicians lie with appalling frequency, regardless of party. I just prefer the liars that support such things as equal access to health care, women's rights, equal enfranchisement, fair taxation, etc. I don't like lies that strive to block such things.

Armstrong 5 years, 6 months ago

Oh you mean the liberals leading the country down the road to Greece a.k.a financial ruin. Got it

paulveer 5 years, 6 months ago

So are you saying you're against equal access to health care, women's rights, equal enfranchisement, fair taxation, etc?

deec 5 years, 6 months ago

European austerity closely mirrors conservative policies in the U.S. Massive cuts to public employees' wages and pensions, a decreased minimum wage, increased retirement ages, attacks on unions and cutting social support programs are all being carried out in Greece, Spain, Ireland, Italy and other nations. These are not liberal positions.

Congressional conservatives caused the downgrade of the U.S. credit rating last year with their petulant refusal to negotiate a solution to the budget issue.

Richard Heckler 5 years, 6 months ago

Republicans and Congress Commit Tax Dollar Fraud Against the 99% everyday = DUPED!

Tax cuts cost everybody money except those receiving the tax cuts.

Why support government officials who only want to allow tax cuts for the 1% when in fact it increases taxes on the other 99%?

Why support government officials who only want to allow cuts for the 1% under the guise it will create jobs and new revenue for the USA? If that is in fact true why not hand out equal tax cuts and loopholes for all taxpayers?

Who's getting duped?

Richard Heckler 5 years, 6 months ago

The repub party declared the day Obama was elected their primary function would be to make Obama a one term president. Consequently their millions of NO votes became the disastrous campaign against women,The USA and jobs for Americans.


Repubs fear a dramatically improved quality of life for all WOULD keep them out of control for decades….. we would hope.

Keep in mind a prospering america can overcome repub fear mongering... it must.

What is the repub party afraid? Why do they ALWAYS say no?

What do Repubs fear?

--- Fear a dramatically improved quality of life for all americans

--- Fear Jobs Jobs Jobs for americans

--- Fear New USA industry thus new wealth for america

--- Fear new cleaner energy sources because it would create so many new jobs and reduce rates across the board

--- Fear Medicare Single Payer Insurance for = huge tax dollar savings to government,public schools,small business and all of us in general. Single Payer Medicare is the answer. - -

--- Fear Clean Collar Industries which produce jobs that cannot be outsourced

--- Fear educated Americans because WE ask questions

--- Fear losing of tax incentives/tax breaks for the wealthy that actually create tax increases for entire spectrum of the middle class

deec 5 years, 6 months ago

Food stamps are based on income, not employment status. People with jobs who make low wages often qualify for SNAP benefits. So do the elderly and disabled if their income is insufficient. So do divorced or unmarried parents and children if the other parent is not paying child support. Because benefits are income-based, a society that systematically extracts wealth from an ever-increasing number of their citizens will have more citizens qualified for programs.

" Over the last two decades, large shares of SNAP households have become working households. In 1989, 42 percent of all SNAP households received cash welfare benefits and only 20 percent had earned income. By 2010, over three times as many SNAP households worked as relied solely on welfare benefits for their income.

Despite the large jump in unemployment during the recession, the share of SNAP families with earnings has continued to increase in recent years.  This suggests that for a growing share of the nation's workers, having a job has not been enough to keep them out of poverty. [CBPP, 7/9/12]

Fred Whitehead Jr. 5 years, 6 months ago

I bought some Reece's candy a few months ago at Target. Reece's lable states that the company is in Hershey, PA. But the candy was made in Mexico.

A recent news article made notice of the red Chinese wanting to establish an internet network in the U.S.?? Is there anyone who is willing to wait for these two political parties to quit the squabbling and put a stop to the bleeding of jobs and manufacturing?.

Do we have to wait until the red Chinese have completed their purchase of the country, the street signs are in Chinese and you can be shot in the back of the head for disagreeing with the government, as it is in China today??.

All the posturing about job creation is from idiots who have absolutely no method of doing this. If you vote for one of these candidates, yyou are deluding yourselves. We need to stop selling our country, our economy and our souls to the red Chinese. They are NOT our friends.

paulveer 5 years, 6 months ago

FWIW, I believe most politicians lie with appalling frequency, regardless of party. I just prefer the liars that support such things as equal access to health care, women's rights, equal enfranchisement, fair taxation, etc. I don't like lies that strive to block such things.

Trumbull 5 years, 6 months ago

Unemployment would be lower if the GOP did not block the recent Jobs bill. You could see this GOP and Limbaugh's response coming a mile away. Their goal is about getting Obama out of office. And they have now resorted to a conspiracy theory. The Bureaue of Labor Statistics is non-partisan branch.

True that there are many who are underemployed and have stopped seeking work, but there are also a lot of retiring baby boomers who are dropping out as well. I have given up on the GOP and consider them a bunch of traitors ever since the debt ceiling crisis. They are willing to risk this for the sake of the almighty party. They are dishonest now by not explaining which deductions and credits they will eliminate. Why can't they just say?

A struggling economy needs every bit of good news it can get. It is the behavioral aspect of commerce. Good news breeds confidence. This is further indication that the GOP is willing to use sabatoge as a tool to reclaim office.

independent_rebel 5 years, 6 months ago

The actual job numbers will come out in about two weeks--California somehow failed to have their pathetic numbers "ready." Once California's numbers are added--they have almost 11 percent unemployed--the true unemployment rate for the country will be over 8% again.

The unemployment rate is not under 8%. The left knows it, the right knows it, but the mainstream media won't report it. The administration is hoping the corrected numbers come out too late to be newsworthy, just as they hoped to hide the fact we were attacked by terrorists on 9/11. If the truth must come out they just want to make sure it happens after the election.

I urge all of you who are undecided to read Bob Woodward's book about the Obama Administration. Woodward--a liberal reporter, has no faith or trust in Obama's administration. He's been on CNN and other networks warning us that Obama and the rest of his inexperienced hacks have no idea what they are doing. I've heard it from his own lips that Obama needs to be voted out, althought he is no fan of Romney.

I'm one life-long democrat who will gladly cast his vote for Romney.

jayhawklawrence 5 years, 6 months ago

It appears that your statements are a gross over exageration of the facts.

Unfortunately, more of the same thing the Republicans have become famous for and the reason that many Americans have lost faith in our political process. It is because of people like you.

independent_rebel 5 years, 6 months ago

Well, except that I am a Democrat--an independent-thinking one, however--so don't let that fact and the fact that the Obama administration has been a failure get in the way of blaming people like me. I have no faith in the democratic party. I have lost faith in both parties.

jayhawklawrence 5 years, 6 months ago

The political parties were not meant to have the kind of power that they have today so I can tell you that as an average American I have some similar sentiments. It is difficult not to get extremely annoyed when you cannot get the facts without the spin.

We are all at a disadvantage as long as the political parties are controlling the information as they are now.

Tonytiger69 5 years, 6 months ago

So why aren't there 10,000 new jobs filled everyday?

jafs 5 years, 6 months ago

Because employers often don't fill those positions when people retire.

They just make everybody else "do more with less".

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