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Letter: Hurricane Koch?

November 2, 2012

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To the editor:

Hurricane Sandy looks to be the worst storm in recorded history. It was caused by the hottest year in recorded history, which was caused by three decades of the highest CO2 production in history, which was caused by the feeblest government environmental policy response since the environmental movement got going, which was caused by a massive campaign of climate change denial, which was caused by funding from carbon fuel industries, which was caused more than anything else by decisions reached by the Koch Industries of Wichita. Therefore I propose that this storm should be renamed Hurricane Koch.

Unfortunately, other people’s fantasies can hurt you, especially when you vote for science deniers. This message was brought to you by the reality-based community.

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Flap Doodle 1 year, 5 months ago

It appears that the current version of FEMA doesn't know about the Army Corps of Engineers. http://coalitionoftheswilling.net/?p=21131 (contains some adult language)

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thuja 1 year, 5 months ago

Liberty275 1 day, 1 hour ago

Hurricane comes, you get in car and leave. How do people not understand that?

Driving car causes worse hurricanes.

Heat goes up in summer, just crank up the AC. But running your AC makes it hotter outside.

People, they're the worst.

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Flap Doodle 1 year, 5 months ago

Barometric pressure was mention a ways back up the thread. Sandy was at 940 millibars (the lowest recorded for a hurricane that came ashore north of Cape Hatteras). http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/30/us/sandy-records/index.html Katrina hit 902 millibars in 2005. Wilma's low was 882 millibars also in 2005.

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Flap Doodle 1 year, 5 months ago

"(Why do they both remind me of Mr. Burns?)" Probably because you've drunk the Alinsky Kool-Aid being dispensed by the folks on the sinister side of the aisle.

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Cait McKnelly 1 year, 5 months ago

The Koch brothers can't attack the message so they go after the messenger.
Thank you, David and Charlie, for contributing to leukemia and toxic chemical poisoning rates. I'm sure the communities you grace with the presence of your refineries appreciate it. http://www.texasobserver.org/contrarian/koch-comes-after-the-observer
(Why do they both remind me of Mr. Burns?)

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Armstrong 1 year, 5 months ago

I'm voting for hurricane Lawrence O'Donnell or Chris Mathews both have more wind then Sandy

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Flap Doodle 1 year, 5 months ago

It seems that Bloomie has called off the NY marathon....

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Mike Ford 1 year, 5 months ago

actually chootspa and liberty275, my mississippi ex relatives were dimwit tea partiers and dixiecrats who went to my late mother's home in Pensacola and came back three days later to nothing but the foundation of their home. Katrina washed away the whole neighborhood. So in other words they were as dumb as you and your heartless comments.

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gccs14r 1 year, 5 months ago

Some of you guys are looking at the category rating as the sole measure of a storm's power. The categories are a classification of wind speed, nothing else. This storm was 1000 miles across and had a very strong low (940mb) at its center, so it was an immense amount of energy that was thrown at the coast, even though wind speed topped out around 90 mph. Had the storm been half the size with the same low pressure, it might well have been a category 4. Coupled with the cold front, high tide, a full moon, and an unusual storm track from a strong high over Greenland, its destructive power was much greater than its raw wind speed would indicate.

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gravitykills 1 year, 5 months ago

Robert Koch is considered the founder of modern bacteriology. He even identified the tuberculosis bacterium in 1882 which would eventually lead to the treatment. Environmentally speaking, I guess he to should be added to the "Hurricane" since discarded drugs are effecting our drinking water or perhaps the author is including him.

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Flap Doodle 1 year, 5 months ago

In other New York City News: "...As hundreds of thousands of Big Apple residents suffer in homes left without power by Hurricane Sandy, two massive generators are being run 24/7 in Central Park — to juice a media tent for Sunday’s New York City Marathon. And a third “backup” unit sits idle, in case one of the generators fails..." http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/this_is_no_way_to_get_us_up_running_egrMk4ukpzFCGhSF8oM5kN

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Getaroom 1 year, 5 months ago

If the Koch Heads could have bested the worst storm ever and didn't(no matter which name you call it or when it happened), you can bet they will eventually.
They have done a #1 job of destroying Democracy and the The Constitution.

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Liberty_One 1 year, 5 months ago

The worst storm in recorded history? Sigh. Listen folks, the storm itself didn't do that much damage. It was barely a category 1 when it hit, and the winds were not even as bad as Irene last year. The flooding along the coastline is what did all the damage. If you were just a little ways inland it wasn't much but a long, long heavy rain storm. And considering that the DC to Boston corridor is one of the most densely populated regions in the world, that much flooding is going to cause more damage to developed property by default.

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Flap Doodle 1 year, 5 months ago

Sandy wasn't even the most destructive hurricane in the last 10 years.

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tomatogrower 1 year, 5 months ago

Great letter, despite all the Koch supporters coming out in droves this morning. Must not be able to sleep, because they are too angry that FEMA worked this time, unlike in New Orleans. Fewer starving people raiding grocery stores, so the conservatives could ridicule and debase them. Just ruined your fun didn't it?

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Brock Masters 1 year, 5 months ago

.......which was caused by the feeblest government environmental policy response since the environmental movement got going,

First LTE that I've read that blames both Koch and Obama in the same letter.

I am sure if Obama is re-elected he'll try to have a better environmental policy.

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Brock Masters 1 year, 5 months ago

Unless you're not using any petroleum products, electricity or eating food farmed with implements that use petroleum based fuels you're a hypocrite.

You can't complain about a problem if you're contributing to it. Don't talk the talk, walk the walk or shut up.

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jonas_opines 1 year, 5 months ago

Oh, for F sakes. It might still be election season, but politicizing everything under the sun is just flat idiotic, and demonstrates a complete lack of consideration for the real impact things like these have on real people.

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ibroke 1 year, 5 months ago

so global warming caused you to spend nights in a fema trailer...... boo hoo get over it there have been hurricanes since time began even before global warming began ( that is before Al Gore )

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ThePilgrim 1 year, 5 months ago

Sandy was a Category 1 hurricane, and, by every prediction the week before, was actually by comparison a non-event. Some of this has to do with the hype. They're having the NY Marathon this weekend. Not much impact there!

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Mike Ford 1 year, 5 months ago

as a son and grandson of deceased people who lost their home and lives to katrina in pascagoula, mississippi, it is my hope that deniers of global warming get locked in a home during a hurricane like this to confront the consequences of their denial....denial is easy in simpleton kansas miles from any coast......don't be cowards own your denial......none of you have spent nights in a fema trailer like I DID.....OWN YOUR DENIAL.....

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JonasGrumby 1 year, 5 months ago

David Burress rarely, if ever, writes letter that contain factual information.

This is from a 2005 article:

"The 1938 Long Island Express, a borderline category-4 hurricane that plowed into West Hampton, causing widespread death and devastation across New York, New Jersey and New England, was the last major hurricane to hit the region. Statistically speaking, 'a storm of that magnitude may repeat every 70 to 80 years or so,' Lee says. 'So, do the math. Whether it happens this year, next year, or in five years, it’s going to happen.' And with this year’s hurricane season forecasted to be even busier and more dangerous than last year’s record-setter, 'It’s just a matter of time,' Lee says." http://nypress.com/the-big-one-hurricane-sandy-was-not-a-surprise/

So if the last major hurricane to hit the region was in 1938, and statistics show that one hits every 70 to 80 years or so, that means the next major hurricane would occur some time between 2008 and 2018. It hit almost in the middle of those years.

Now if Mr. Burress believes anthropenic global warming caused Hurricane Sandy, what caused the Long Island Express and other major hurricanes that have hit the region on average every 70 to 80 years in the past?

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ibroke 1 year, 5 months ago

wasnt sandy a cat 1 hurricane when it hit the east coast?

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Liberty275 1 year, 5 months ago

"Hurricane Sandy looks to be the worst storm in recorded history."

I couldn't get passed that. If you are willing to lie like that, nothing else you say can be trusted.

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Ken Lassman 1 year, 5 months ago

If you've read any of my comments, you know that I recognize the clear evidence that climate change is real and that human activities are a major player in those changes. But Burress' letter is a hyperbolic extension of that reality that is more of a venting than a recounting of what we know. The science does not support a clear connection between Sandy and climate change, even though without a warmer ocean, Sandy wouldn't have had the power to make it out of the Caribbean. That's due to the fact that individual weather events are not climate, plain and simple. Scientists have predicted a 2-11% increase in hurricane intensity due to warmer oceans, which makes perfect sense since they are heat driven, but that's about as close as you can get. For an excellent review of the science, I suggest folks read: http://www.culturalcognition.net/blog/2012/10/31/climate-change-caused-linguistics-empirics-reasoned-discours.html

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Flap Doodle 1 year, 5 months ago

"...In studying hurricanes, we can make rough comparisons over time by adjusting past losses to account for inflation and the growth of coastal communities. If Sandy causes $20 billion in damage (in 2012 dollars), it would rank as the 17th most damaging hurricane or tropical storm (out of 242) to hit the U.S. since 1900—a significant event, but not close to the top 10. The Great Miami Hurricane of 1926 tops the list (according to estimates by the catastrophe-insurance provider ICAT), as it would cause $180 billion in damage if it were to strike today. Hurricane Katrina ranks fourth at $85 billion. To put things into even starker perspective, consider that from August 1954 through August 1955, the East Coast saw three different storms make landfall—Carol, Hazel and Diane—that in 2012 each would have caused about twice as much damage as Sandy. While it's hardly mentioned in the media, the U.S. is currently in an extended and intense hurricane "drought." The last Category 3 or stronger storm to make landfall was Wilma in 2005. The more than seven years since then is the longest such span in over a century..." http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204840504578089413659452702.html?mod=rss_opinion_main

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Flap Doodle 1 year, 5 months ago

"Hurricane Sandy looks to be the worst storm in recorded history." Read up on the 1900 Galveston hurricane and get back to us when you've advance beyond the historical perspective of a mayfly.

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JackMcKee 1 year, 5 months ago

We'll be light years ahead as a country when people realize that the Kochs are just about the worst people to have ever stepped foot on planet earth.

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