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Cowardly act

July 28, 2012

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To the editor:

The recent massacre in Aurora, Colo., has revived the question of gun control in America, especially concerning assault rifles and multiround clips.

The Second Amendment says the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed upon. In Washington, the powerful NRA has bullied Congress to comply with its every whim, which has morphed this amendment to now include automatic weapons and unlimited clips that can be legally sold without background checks to anyone with money like gangs, drug dealers and the mentally deranged.

As a Vietnam combat veteran, I am familiar with automatic weapons, how to use them and what they can do to human beings.  As an American, I think it is time to address this issue and try to avoid the future slaughter of innocents in places like Columbine, Virginia Tech and now Aurora. Unfortunately, neither presidential candidate has the courage to even talk about this problem.  Our gutless Congress and local politicians refuse to address this issue. After all, it is an election year and God forbid they offend the gun lobby.

I do not want to take anyone’s guns away, but we Americans cannot solve our gun problem by letting more people have them! Once again, our politicians have proven themselves spineless, selfish individuals at the bidding of the NRA and special interests, and we the voters continue to elect them year after year! Shame on all of us for putting up with this cowardly act!

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Flap Doodle 1 year, 8 months ago

Meanwhile, in Communist China: "A Chinese teenager has killed eight people and wounded another five in a knife attack in the country's northeast. The official Xinhua News Agency said the attack took place Wednesday night in Liaoning province. It did not immediately give any other details in its report Thursday, such as the ages of the victims. Violent crimes are growing more common in China. There was a string of knife attacks against schoolchildren across the country in early 2010 that killed nearly 20 and wounded more than 50." http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/08/02/china-teen-knife-attack.html

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Mike Ford 1 year, 8 months ago

April 12, 2009

Obama and the Democrats appear to have lost all interest in a ban on assault weapons or any other legislation cleaning up loopholes in America’s gun laws even though killings are on the rise and gun violence continues to escalate around the country.

White House officials admit support for a new ban isn’t there and the President isn’t willing to take on another losing battle with Congress.

Although information on banning assault style weapons remains on the White House web site, sources within the Democratic party say the issue is dead and unlikely to be revived in the near future.

"It’s over," a Democrat strategist admits. "The gun nuts have won…again."

yeah the nuts won again......and how many more will die?

roedapple....look in the right place?

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RoeDapple 1 year, 8 months ago

Federal Assault Weapons Ban

Here you go tuschie . . .

In "bold" for your reading convenience.

The Federal Assault Weapons Ban expired on September 13, 2004, as part of the law's sunset provision.

(Oh, and I did it in 20 seconds)

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Flap Doodle 1 year, 8 months ago

The Mope remembers how the Democrats got spanked after the scary weapons bill passed in 1994. As dim as his instincts are, he doesn't want a repeat of that while he is still running for office. ( .......... from .......... a 20th Century.......... source .......... )

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Mike Ford 1 year, 8 months ago

labmonkey......an April 19, 2009 yahoo article speaks of President Obama not renewing the assault weapons ban.....research much????? it took me forty seconds to find this information typing in Obama doesn't renew weapons ban. I already knew about the Olathe gun shop. We have a Winchester Model 61a and a lot of older 22. cal plinking rifles from there. Secondly it's not racism unless you're oblivious to Kansas History. Lawrence is on Kaw, Shawnee, and Delaware land and the city itself was settled by the Kansas version of Sooners who settled the Lawrence area before the ink was dried on the 1854 Shawnee Manypenny treaty. Stop supporting historical land thiefs if you don't want to hear the truth.....

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skinny 1 year, 8 months ago

If guns cause crime, all mine are defective. Ted Nugent

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RoeDapple 1 year, 8 months ago

I just consider (the source)

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Flap Doodle 1 year, 8 months ago

The subject that tuschie never ignores is tuschie. (from a source)

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Mike Ford 1 year, 8 months ago

poor roedapple ignoring reality when you have nothing to add to the conversation..... courageous? in going after those who have the courage to redirect the conversation to the subject cowards convieniently ignore.....fluffy good news instead of reality.... what purpose you serve.....

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RoeDapple 1 year, 8 months ago

Poor tuschie . . . must be awful to be driven by hate to the point he can't see the good around him . . .

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Crazy_Larry 1 year, 8 months ago

Fire and explosives are the weapons of choice of most mass murderers. The infamous murders at Frank Lloyd Wright's home at Taliesin (Spring Hill, Wisconsin) which did not involve guns, but did involve arson and an ax. The Oklahoma City bombing killed 168 people. No guns were used.

Mass murder without guns:

18 year old slashes 4 to death in Sitka, Alaska, US: 3/25/2008. 4 people killed. 18 year old (old enough to purchase a rifle over the counter) kills 4 people, related to him, with a 5 inch knife.

Man With Sword Slays 2, Wounds 12 on N.Y. Ferry : Retired Police Officer Stops Him With Gun July 07, 1986

6 killed over Xbox dispute in Deltona, Florida, US: 8/6/2004. 6 killed. 4 men (all old enough to legally purchase firearms) bludgeon 6 people to death with baseball bats over purloined Xbox.

Arson, Stabbing Rampage in Seoul South Korea : 10/20/2008. 6 people dead, 5 from stabbing. 7 others wounded, 4 seriously. An angry man felt people “looked down on him.”

Anti-police stabbing spree in Shanghai, China: 7/2008. 6 Police Officers stabbed to death, 4 wounded. 28 year old man angry at police attacked a police station with a knife.

Akihabara Massacre, Chiyoda City, Tokyo, Japan: 6/8/2008. 7 people killed (3 struck by car, 4 by stabbing), many more injured. Man slammed into a crowd with his car, then jumped out and began stabbing people to death.

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Mike Ford 1 year, 8 months ago

labmonkey....sorry telling the truth offends you.....who needs to stir racial animas to sell guns? White people. I went all over Tulsa, Oklahoma looking for an old school gun shop with antique guns and odd guns and the like last summer. I grew up with a father that taught me history by searching for certain antique guns in those kinds of shops. Topeka Pawn and Gun Shooters Supply on Kansas Avenue in Topeka was one of these shops. We started collecting guns we found there. Instead of finding those kinds of guns we found a suburban gun shop with an NRA poster on the counter stating the "Greatest Gun salesman ever". President Obama was the feature on this poster. What race uses the picture of an African American President to sell guns? White people. I went into a local pawn and gun shop on 6th street and I saw all kinds of assault weapons that were now on sale due to the ban being lifted. Who allowed the ban to run out? President Obama. This was in 2009. People purchased guns and ammo for the armegeddon.....did it happen......no.....I rest my case.

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Crazy_Larry 1 year, 8 months ago

According to data compiled by Grant Duwe of the Minnesota Department of Corrections, guns killed an average of 4.92 victims per mass murder in the United States during the 20th century, just edging out knives, blunt objects, and bare hands, which killed 4.52 people per incident. Fire killed 6.82 people per mass murder, while explosives far outpaced the other options at 20.82. Of the 25 deadliest mass murders in the 20th century, only 52 percent involved guns.

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RoeDapple 1 year, 8 months ago

And read this while you're at it.

How to Own Class III Weapons Basic Guidelines

http://www.westernfirearms.com/wfc?set=02&sz=800x600

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RoeDapple 1 year, 8 months ago

Here you go msezdsit, your typical m-16 for sale. At $27,000! Nobody, NOBODY, would go through a criminal background check (required) to buy this then sell it to someone across the border for the (going?) price of what, $1,000? Instead of believing the dung you read from the typical gun control site, try doing some research on your own.

http://www.westernfirearms.com/wfc/m16?set=66&sz=800x600

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bitchy 1 year, 8 months ago

Wonder why observant hasn't commented on this LTE? Sometimes it seems the letter submitter does not comment on his/her own lte's.

Where's Agnostick? Cleaning chimneys can't be too much in demand in this 106 degree heat.

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DillonBarnes 1 year, 8 months ago

These threads are getting repetitive, so I'll just say this...

Magazine, not clip...

Bye!

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msezdsit 1 year, 8 months ago

"I don’t need to be a Bosnia, Kosovo, Iraq and Afghanistan veteran to tell you one armed citizen in that Colorado Theater could have made a huge difference. That’s just common sense. " baker

I don't need to be any of that either to be smart enough to know that two or three hundred armed freaked out terrified individuals in a Colorado theatre all firing guns would have resulted in a lot more people being shot and a lot more injured or deceased individuals. That, baker, is just common sense.

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tbaker 1 year, 8 months ago

If firearms, including those with multi-round magazines, were really as dangerous as the author suggests, then by that logic there should be millions of gun crimes and accidents involving firearms every year, and those numbers should be increasing in relationship to the total number of guns and gun-owners because this number has steadily risen over the years.

In reality, gun crime and accidents have steadily dropped in relationship to the number of guns, and all the while gun sales have dramatically increased and more states have liberalized laws dealing with the carrying of guns in public, so where is the corresponding spike in gun violence Mr. Bennet?

You should resist the urge to recommend the typical knee-jerk “Big Brother Knows Best” Nanny State solution. This is not easy, especially with this topic because the emotional, gut reaction people think of as "common sense" is wrong because it is easy to assume that more gun control will result in less crime becuase it seems obvious. Your letter is a splendid example of this unfortunate thinking. The truth is counter-intuitive Mr. Bennet. Do the research and you’ll find that guns are used 5 times more often to stop crime than to commit crime – and that doesn't count police use or the deterrent factor of criminals knowing their intended victims might be armed. Guns are used by private citizens to stop criminal activity some 2.5 million times a year. Gun owner fire billions of rounds each year, but firearms injury accident numbers keep going down as a percentage of all the guns in circulation and are at record lows. Chicago has the toughest gun control laws in the country yet has had over 250 murders this year giving it one of the highest murder rates per-capita of any city in the country. Statistically, you’d be safer in Kabul.

Gun control laws only “control” those people inclined to obey the law in the first place – the law-abiding. There is not a scrap of evidence to support the idea that tough gun restrictions on law-abiding gun owners is going to make a bit of difference. See the 2003 and 2004 studies done by the Centers for Disease Control & Prevention, and the National Academy of Science concerning the efficacy of gun control laws on stopping gun-related crime. It will open your eyes.

There is nothing wrong with being anti-gun, everyone is entitled to their opinion and no one is forcing you to own a gun (like they do in some countries), but at least be against failed government policy with the same enthusiasm. I don’t need to be a Bosnia, Kosovo, Iraq and Afghanistan veteran to tell you one armed citizen in that Colorado Theater could have made a huge difference. That’s just common sense. Shame on anyone who thinks needlessly restricting our constitutional liberties with ineffective failed policy so they can “feel” better is a good idea.

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unobservant_idiot 1 year, 8 months ago

Manhattan KS chimney sweep on scene in 1....2....3...........

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unobservant_idiot 1 year, 8 months ago

kdfarris says: "Curtis D. Bennett, of Lawrence, Kansas USA, was a military pilot and served as a captain in the Marines during the Vietnam War in 1968."

Just a quick Google."

Wonder why repeatedly banned (observer, shadower, observar, beobachter( reference to Nazi propaganda Newspaper) observant hasn't weighed in on (t)his LTE?

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Mike Ford 1 year, 8 months ago

The Gun Law of 1934 dealt with the prohibition of automatic weapons to the public as a reaction to Bonnie and Clyde raiding National Guard armories and taking Thompson tommy guns and Browning BAR's and cutting the barrels short for ambushes. Most automatic weapons are insanely expensive to acquire which should be gun control enough. Class III weapons licenses require quite a bit of background work. Even the Sons of Guns people on TV have screwed up keeping track of auto weapons with the ATF and had to transfer the operation of their Baton Rouge shop to one of the gun crafters in shop to keep everything going. I would profile against over educated young White men whose academic failures make them want to lash out at the world that they felt pushed them and created an audience in their heads (delusion) that would reinforce the concept of failure and make them lash out at random people because their failures made them feel invisible and doing insane things like Aurora and Northern Illinois shootings a couple of years ago. I'm an educated gun person, a Democrat, a gun snob. I have no use for the end of the world race war armageddon GOP NRA members. If the NRA went legit and stopped trying to recruit old caucasian closeted bigots I'd llsten to them. I enjoy the historical gun stories on the NRA channel that's on some outdoor cable networks. Leave the politics to the armed race war proponents and deal with the history of firearms and collecting instead. Wow....an angle to expose the GOP for the fear mongering they do....I hope a Democrat is listening and has a backbone.....

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msezdsit 1 year, 8 months ago

"No, because you are only here to troll, nothing more."

done with you roe

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RoeDapple 1 year, 8 months ago

msezdsit why don't you go purchase a Class 3 firearm this afternoon then come back and tell us all about it. You are obviously the poster here who doesn't have a clue about firearms.

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msezdsit 1 year, 8 months ago

"Gun laws would prevent shooting sprees?"

Probably not but if it helped reduce the increasing frequency of these shooting sprees it would be well worth the ink. Its kinda like voting, if we just make it a little harder to vote than not as many people would be able to vote. That analogy works for the republicans for voting and they should at least be consistent and apply it to automatic weapons.

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BornAgainAmerican 1 year, 8 months ago

Gun laws would prevent shooting sprees? Please tell me more about how criminals follow laws.

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msezdsit 1 year, 8 months ago

The same hypocritical republican congressmen/women (and some dem-wits) that make a huge ridiculous witch hunt vendetta out of their manufactured bs against Holder are the same Republicans that are responsible for not closing the loopholes in gun laws that allow automatic weapons to be sold to the mexican drug cartels and criminals that are responsible for a massive amount of murders and violence. They are also responsible for underfunding the ATF to further insure that the ATF can't do their job.

If they were genuinely concerned about american guns "walking" across the mexican border than they should be more concerned about the loopholes that allow the mass quantities of automatic weapons that are legally crossing the border. The fact that the congress is willing to make a huge deal over few weapons and completly endorse the mass quantity of weapons crossing the border tells you they really aren't worried about violence associated with the weapons but rather creating a huge political vendetta to waste taxpayers money and ensure they don't take care of the business they were elected to do. Send them home.

All the talk about how automatic weapons are not responsible for criminal activity in the US is BS, but the real issue is how many Americans in border patrol, ice, and law enforcement are being threatened or killed by these legal american automatic weapons the congress endorses.

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kefarris 1 year, 8 months ago

"Curtis D. Bennett, of Lawrence, Kansas USA, was a military pilot and served as a captain in the Marines during the Vietnam War in 1968."

Just a quick Google.

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FlintlockRifle 1 year, 8 months ago

More gun laws, crap,just look at Washington D.C and Chicago two of the tufts gun laws in the country and have the highest rates of crime in the country, yep that's what we need more laws for the gun owners. Does anyone know how many gun laws are on the books??? No I don't

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Barry Hirsh 1 year, 8 months ago

Curtis -

A 'Nam Vet knows the difference between automatic small arms (M16) and semi-automatic small arms (AR15). Either you're lying about having been a 'Nam Vet, or you're lying about the weapons you advocate banning.

It's one or the other. Which is it?

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kefarris 1 year, 8 months ago

For what it is worth, the whole "he purchased 6,000 rounds" is worthless info. Telling this info is just designed to scare people. To those who want to limit ammo purchases: How limited do you want to make ammo? There is no way that this shooter carried 6,000 rounds. Without ammo magazines, 6,000 rounds would have weighed 160-190 pounds. He probably had 400 rounds max, most likely 200-250 rounds. With a partner, I can (and do) shoot 400 rounds in an afternoon at my range. Should I be limited from doing this? Should I be limited from purchasing a few months worth of ammo for a bulk price? There is no ammo restriction that could be imposed that would have had any ability to reduce this guys ability to carry the quantity of ammo that he had.

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Brock Masters 1 year, 8 months ago

I think defenders of the 2nd amendment would be more willing to accept restrictions if they knew there was a back stop, but time and time the anti-gun groups don't stop. They want a total ban. Plus, often what they want won't do any good except to negatively impact the law abiding citizen.

Show me that "magic bullet" law and I'll consider it, but I don't believe it exists.

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beatrice 1 year, 8 months ago

I see too many of the individual state laws acting like band-aids that do not work. How is a ban in California going to prevent someone bringing in guns from Arizona, where guns are all but mandatory? If you can train and get a conceal and carry in Kansas, shouldn't that transfer to other states?Should there be a national standard for conceal and carry? Should Texas be allowed to sell automatic weapons if they choose?

All just interesting ways to think about guns in our country.

I still have zero desire to own a gun, but appreciate reading rational comments from the gun enthusiasts.

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beatrice 1 year, 8 months ago

Question for gun enthusiasts (which I am not, if you haven't noticed): Should states be allowed to create whatever gun regulations they choose, or should it be a federal issue?

Keep in mind that the Supreme Court has already ruled that people have the right to protect their homes, so the all-out ban so often used as a scare tactic is out of the question.

Just curious what people's responses will be.

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Flap Doodle 1 year, 8 months ago

Curtis, if you had bought a firearm from a licensed dealer anytime in the past few decades, you'd know that they have to call in your information for a background check.

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Flap Doodle 1 year, 8 months ago

How many of my BOR rights can I exercise today? I'm going for all 10!

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Crazy_Larry 1 year, 8 months ago

Why are people killed by firearms so much more important that people killed by automobile? We can save many more lives by implementing stronger regulation on vehicles than on firearms. Hello!?! We're trying to save lives here! Let's not ignore the elephant in the room! Can we talk about obesity next? Firearms are specifically mentioned in the document as a constitutional right, driving a car or stuffing your face at McDonald's is not.

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Abdu Omar 1 year, 8 months ago

Calm down you guys!!

Here it is with the twelve killed many wounded and we talk about guns. Even though the guns were used for this heinous crime, they are not the criminal. It is the person weilding them that is.

Last week a car accident in New York killed 3 people in such a horrible way that the state was horrified. So by all of your thinking, let's outlaw cars, the automobile, the trucks, and anything that goes upon the highway, automatic, stick shift or what ever. How foolish!

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just_another_cretin_on_the_bus 1 year, 8 months ago

"...and the mentally deranged."

Just be consoled, Mr. Bennett, that even you can obtain the items you listed.

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labmonkey 1 year, 8 months ago

This Ronald McDonald look-alike showed he was pretty creative with chemicals and explosives when he booby-trapped his apartment. Even if he were unable to obtain guns, do you think the attack would not have happened? Probably everyone in that theater would have died because he would have made a shrapnel-spewing bomb.

There have been many calls to ban the "evil" black rifles, but a nut-job in Norway proved you can do just as much damage with a mini-14. The assault rifle ban (which liberals claim would have prevented Aurora) was just plain stupidity because it was based on looks of the rifle. Just chop off the bayonet lug and replace the pistol-grip with a dragonov-style stock and bam, you now have a compliant AR or AK. And considering there are tens of millions of magazines out there, it wasn't too hard to find a pre-ban magazine.

I don't know what the answer is, but if someone is bats**t crazy enough to do something like this, they will find a way to do it. If someone wants to commit a gun crime, they will find a way to obtain one. There is no need to punish law-abiding citizens for these people who will get their guns anyway.

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just_another_cretin_on_the_bus 1 year, 8 months ago

"I do not want to take anyone’s guns away, but we Americans cannot solve our gun problem by letting more people have them!"

Funniest (stupidest) sentence ever----EVER!

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Liberty_One 1 year, 8 months ago

"As a Vietnam combat veteran, I am familiar with automatic weapons, how to use them and what they can do to human beings. "

Then I imagine you would understand why we citizens don't want only the state to have such weapons.

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Mike Ford 1 year, 8 months ago

the shooter had a 100 round drum on the bottom of said AR 15. He had larger clips on the Glocks. He had purchased 6,000 rounds of ammo prior to the massacre. This kind of behavior is what tipped off the ATF to David Koresh back in the day....you know they're all out to get me so I'll arm myself to the hilt nonsense......nice to know intelligent conversations can never occur without some dimwit reference to genies or some stupid use of the word nuanced by people doing nothing but trolling..... I own many guns...I'm a Democrat.....and I see the NRA as nothing but the third part of the GOP/Right Wing triad.....you know....God, Abortion...and drumroll....Guns.....people so simple they can vote on three issues and let everything else go as their heads enter the sand.....sheep are so easy to herd up....good job GOP/Tea Party... reality be tossed.....

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KayaknColoRivers 1 year, 8 months ago

Fred is correct, they were all semi-auto (except for the 12 gauge). Do tell, what does foot taste like?

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Brock Masters 1 year, 8 months ago

How can anyone give serious consideration to the LTE writer and people like merrill who obviously have no clue what they are talking about. It was already pointed out that the shooter in CO did not use an automatic weapon. Automatic weapons can be legally owned, but the process and cost makes ownership very difficult. They are not on the street.

Background checks are indeed required.

It is difficult to have a meaningful discussion on the issue when people fail to take the time to educate themselves on the issue.

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Richard Heckler 1 year, 8 months ago

Change the gun laws...it's simple.

Make it completely illegal to own any type of military assault weapons across the board. Take automatic weapons off the street yesterday.

Plenty of documented incidents and dead bodies to back this up!

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KayaknColoRivers 1 year, 8 months ago

LOL@False, It's a "weapon" in military circles.

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xdcr 1 year, 8 months ago

The shooter didn't have an automatic rifle, he had a semi-auto rifle. Big difference. To legally own an automatic weapon, a Federal license is reguired. Show me where a person with a licensed automatic weapon has used their weapon in a crime in the last 50 years. Don't waste your time looking------zero. If a person wants to be a nitwit, they will find a way, even if semi-auto weapons become illegal.

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FalseHopeNoChange 1 year, 8 months ago

can be legally sold without background checks to anyone with money like gangs, drug dealers and the mentally deranged.<

You mean like the NRA's "Fast and Furious?" program of Selling (guns)...your word...to bandits from Mexico?

I do not want to take anyone’s guns away, but we Americans cannot solve our gun problem by letting more people have them!<

huh?! This 'emotional' intellectually 'complex' thought, conjugated with 'nuanced' critical thinking, seems 'vacant' of consistency or relevance.

Ahem....you said you were in the military?.....they are "firearms", not guns. "This is my rifle. This is my Gun. This is for shooting. This is for fun." 'member that ditty?

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