Archive for Thursday, July 26, 2012

Heard on the Hill: Don’t look for Chick-fil-A to leave Wescoe; KU responds to records request; CLAS hires new undergraduate services director

July 26, 2012


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• Thanks to a Heard on the Hill commenter who alerted me to a rumor that Chick-fil-A would be closing in Wescoe Hall’s Underground, but I can report today that it’s not true.

Mike Reid, director of public affairs for the Kansas Memorial Unions, told me this week that he was aware of an online petition calling on the unions to dump Chick-fil-A from Wescoe Hall’s Underground. This came after recent comments from Dan Cathy, the restaurant chain’s president, in opposition to gay marriage (you can Google his name if you’re unfamiliar with the flap that’s been generating a lot of back-and-forth comments from folks on both sides in my social media circles).

Anyway, Reid told me that while he understood where the people who signed the petition were coming from, the restaurant was under contract with the unions until 2014. He said the unions were looking at the situation, but it was unlikely any change would happen soon.

“We doubt if there would be any change until 2014,” he told me.

The online petition was going strong on Wednesday, with 1,175 signatures the last time I checked Wednesday evening.

• I got an initial response back from KU on the open records request I filed earlier about renovations to the chancellor’s and provost’s offices.

It was pretty standard, and came to me within the required three-day window that public entities have to respond to requests from the public.

No records yet, but it does illustrate one point about records requests: namely, that they can be a little cost-prohibitive for members of the general public.

I asked for records relating to itemized expenses for renovations and remodeling of the two spaces dating back to when the chancellor and provost were hired. That’s August 2009 for the chancellor and March 2010 for the provost.

The university, under the law, can charge the person requesting the records for expenses they incur while searching for them.

In this case, they billed me for two hours of business managers’ retrieval and review of the records at $65 per hour, and $1.25 for a CD-R. Payment must be made in advance before they will trudge up the records.

These records are technically “open” to the public, but — in practice, at least — there’s a big enough fee that will likely prohibit most folks from ever taking a glance at them.

Unless, of course, say, a news-gathering company takes an interest and ponies up the cash. Which we did. So we will be paying $130 worth of a manager’s time to dig through the records for us for two hours, and I’ll be sure to let you know what comes up.

• The College of Liberal Arts and Sciences has hired Larry Fillian as its new director of undergraduate services.

He will be in charge of the college’s Student Academic Services office, which provides academic support for students and departments.

He had most recently served as the director of undergraduate advising and assessment at the George Washington University School of Business.

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yourworstnightmare 1 year, 8 months ago

Serving salty, mushy chicken sandwiches to customers too dim to be able to pronounce "filet".

Their food and business are abominations, not to mention the CEO's embarrassing, misguided "beliefs".

Chick-filet represents the dumbing down of America at it best.

Dee nie mor rites


Megan Green Stuke 1 year, 8 months ago

It cracks me up when people say things like KU would be squelching free speech if they booted Chick Fil A. Chick Fil A certainly has every right to their stance on the issue. And KU (or whomever else) has every right to boot them for it. That's how that works.


rtwngr 1 year, 8 months ago

If Chik-Fil-A started serving chicken hot dogs and chicken tacos, would that appease the gay community?


Roland Gunslinger 1 year, 8 months ago

For those that like Chick-Fil-A chicken but hate what they stand for:

4 chicken breasts;

1 C pickle juice

2 eggs

1 C flour

2 T sugar

1 tsp salt

1 tsp paprika

1/2 tsp pepper

1/2 tsp dried oregano

1/2 tsp dried basil

1/4 tsp garlic powder

1/4 tsp onion powder

peanut oil for frying

Pound chicken to desired thickness. Marinate in pickle juice overnight (or no less than 1 hour) MIx eggs in bowl Mix dry ingredients in separate bowl Dip chicken in egg wash and dredge through flour mixture Pan fry, deep fry, or pressure fry (this is how Chick-Fil-A cooks them) until cooked through.


Hoots 1 year, 8 months ago

I wonder how many people here boycott their friends if they are on the other side of an issue? If they do then they must go through friends fast. Actions hurt people not opinions. People act like the Chick-Fil-A guy beat a baby seal with a bat while slapping their MOM. People sure are getting sensitive in this country. Generation "Cry Baby"...


RETICENT_IRREVERENT 1 year, 8 months ago

Nothing will come of this petition. KU watched the City Of Lawrence get over-ruled by Compton and Walmart, because some thought Walmart did not share "community values". Now every time Compton says jump, the city says "how high do you want to build your building?".


oletimer 1 year, 8 months ago

1175 people who don't believe folks have the right to think what they want? Figures. Most are KU students probably. I agree with Chic-Fil-A. Marriage should be between a man and a woman. That's the way it was originated, and should still be. If you would get honest answers from people, I am betting a huge majority would say the same thing. Same old deal. The small minority is making the big noise, thinking that makes them right. If phelp's cult of radicals can get away with their crap, anyone can and should.


lawslady 1 year, 8 months ago

Back on the record issue - (for the record, I support the 1st Amendment all the way = even when someone "says" things that I really dislike or don't agree with. Don't like what you hear? Turn it off, avoid that business etc.). Under the Kansas Open Records Act (KORA), the actually costs associated with providing copies or access can (but do not have to be) charged to the record requester. Why? So that the general public does not end up funding hours/days/weeks of reviewing, copying, etc. just so the requesters (usually the press) can get copies of records that they need/want. 99% of record requests are NOT from the general public, but rather from the press, who make MONEY re-selling that information. In my opinion, it's disingenuous to claim you are concerned for the general public who can't afford to pay for the work associated with record requests. Rarely does a mere tax payer ask for the number of recores, spanning the same lengthy time frame, that the press routinely requests. It is the Open Record Act. Not the "help the press dig up dirt" Act.

Next time, just ask for access to (see not get copies) the records first. A simple look at the books for the months in question may reveal the information you are seeking (and more), which could take far less time and cost you far less money.


Hoots 1 year, 8 months ago

This whole idea in Christianity that marriage is some kind of thing ordained by God is false if you look at the much longer history of marriage. Marriage predated Christianity by many centuries. Marriage was at its roots a business arrangement between two families where there was no consideration of love or romance. The church would have you believe differently in conflict with true historical fact.


Gotland 1 year, 8 months ago

I wish there was a restaurant that offend all liberal enough to boycott so us human beings could eat in peace.


Ray Parker 1 year, 8 months ago

Christian values are not Chicago values, says leftist pro-sodomy Democrat Mayor Emanuel, and Boston Mayor Menino’s letter has also denounced Christian values. (Their vitriolic anti-Christian hate speech is only because Chick-fil-A refuses to endorse or support the legalized sodomite mockery of marriage, since the restaurant chain does not fire homosexuals or refuse service to disease-riddled queers.) Christians need to be much more vocal in their daily life as well as in their pulpits in their opposition to the homosexual agenda. August 1 is Chick-fil-A appreciation day, eat a chicken sandwich. Boycott Chicago and Boston.


jmadison 1 year, 8 months ago

Has it been documented Chick-Fil-A refuses service to anyone based on race, creed, gender,or sexual orientation?


toe 1 year, 8 months ago

Why not open a gay fast food joint serving chicken sandwiches and give them competition?


rockchalker52 1 year, 8 months ago

I'm pro equal rights & pro chicken sammich. Fil-a's are rilly good. Am figuring their agenda will prolly stick to cooking for the most part. Wish they'd open a full blown joint in town somewhere.


Jaded_one 1 year, 8 months ago

Chick Fil-A has the right to express their opinion on Gay rights. In doing so they have alienated some current and potential customers. If you disagree with their views just do not eat there. They obviously do not care about the loss of potential revenue. No need for national boycott just make it a personal choice not to buy their products.


lgreen17 1 year, 8 months ago

You paid all that money to find out that they painted and put in new carpet in the Chancellor's offices? You could have seen that for yourself. It's open to the public. In the Provost offices they put in new cubicles (the old ones were from the 1970s). No new carpet and paint. Andy, there isn't a story here. I'm glad they charged you for wasting state employee's time to dig out the receipts!


FalseHopeNoChange 1 year, 8 months ago

"Diversity" only counts when Genies say 'so.'

Remember the Genie Ahmedinejab at complex Columbia university during Bushy's reign? Ahmedinejab responded to a 'fan' query stating that Iran didn't have homosexuals. The complex crowd had a 'jolly' good laugh over that one.

Those "diversity" Genies are so splendid at recognizing 'comedy relief.'

Furthermore, 'Evolution is neat' until it applies to complex Genies.


OonlyBonly 1 year, 8 months ago

Why are Liberals so liberal and understanding of everything except conservative values? The chain CEO expresses his beliefs and now he's the Anti-Christ. Come on Liberals wake up!


verity 1 year, 8 months ago

"Cathy said that children in homes of gay-marriage parents tend to be emotionally handicapped."

Mr Cathy has a right to his views and I have a right to not spend money at his place of business for any reason.

However, he does not have a right to make up "facts."


FalseHopeNoChange 1 year, 8 months ago

I 'wonder' what Chick-fil-A thinks of complex Flex, "The First Gay President", financial bundler Terry Bean?

Terry Bean is a favorite of Flex's. Here look:


Onasis 1 year, 8 months ago

I found it hypocritical that the petition itself gave numerous quotes from University officials about diversity... not sure exactly what diversity means to them, but to me it certainly includes others with a different background/culture/values/opinions. Therefore, Chick-Fil-A has as much of a right to be on campus as anyone else. If students don't agree with their values as a company, then they can choose not to eat there and not support the company. But how is it fair or working towards diversity for them to take that right away from others because it is not what they believe?

Not to mention, what a bunch of nonsense about it creating a hostile environment at KU. The students working behind the counter there do not care or show prejudice against gay students. They serve everyone. If anyone makes it hostile it will be the gay marriage supporters trying to do a sit in or picket to get them kicked off campus. Or being angry at those who either don't care or agree with Chick-Fil-A and eat there anyways. People who agree with Chick aren't going to picket those eating somewhere else.


Betty Bartholomew 1 year, 8 months ago

There's a business manager at KU making $65/hr?


consumer1 1 year, 8 months ago

MOve it out of Wescoe so the rest of us can patronize it..


Hoots 1 year, 8 months ago

I don't agree with the owner of Chick-Fil-A, however the owner of any company can have any opinion they want just as you can. His opinions or belief systems don:t effect me or you one little bit. So lets do some actual financial damage to him...really. Should you be financially damaged every time someone disagrees with you?


mom_of_three 1 year, 8 months ago

Or the students could be upset by these comments he also made during the radio show, according to the examiner. "He shared this on the Ken Coleman Show about gay marriage in America: "I think we are inviting God’s judgment on our nation when we shake our fist at Him and say, 'We know better than you as to what constitutes a marriage.' "I pray God’s mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude to think that we have the audacity to define what marriage is about."

Dan Cathy told the Ken Coleman Show host that he is thankful that his father taught him about the value of having a "mother" and "father" in the home. Obviously, he is talking about traditional marriages involving a man and woman.

To further drive his point home, Cathy said that children in homes of gay-marriage parents tend to be emotionally handicapped."

He is just another one that talks "facts" out of thin air and perhaps the students don't want their money contributed to anti gay causes. Because they believe every one is created equal.


Scut Farkus 1 year, 8 months ago

I'v e eaten cardboard with more flavor than most items at Chick-Fil-A.


absolutelyridiculous 1 year, 8 months ago

Gilligan and Mary Ann have successfully found a fresh water supply and thus must now go build a pump now. Added bonus as they discovered the supply also was the native habitat for the Hypocrisy Fish. No more trolling for me today folks.


Russell Fryberger 1 year, 8 months ago

I have to wonder if Chick-Fil-A does the catering for the Phelps gatherings.


Flap Doodle 1 year, 8 months ago

If individuals don't want to eat at Chick-fil-A, more power to them. The larger issue is that some government officials are saying "we don't want businesses owned by people who express opinions we don't agree with in our town." That is a problem.


kujayhawk7476 1 year, 8 months ago

Regarding the reccords request; the university should charge you $165 per hour for being a pest. No wait, $265 per hour would be most appropriate because of your smart-ass attitude. Typical of the Urinal World.


Curtis Lange 1 year, 8 months ago

Thanks for looking in to the Chick-fil-A rumor. :cheers:


swampyankee 1 year, 8 months ago

It is called chick -fil-a not dude-fil-a do not go there if you have a problem with them last i knew they were closed on Sunday to support religious beliefs.Maybe the atheists should should start whining too


blindrabbit 1 year, 8 months ago

Chick-fil-A: Great t.v. ads, food Ok; problem, too much religiosity for a campus setting. This company is owned and managed by a bunch of Southern fundamentalists from Atlanta, Georgia who are t-baggers and far right republicans who contribute to many anti-gay organizations. Why would KU continue to support this bigoted organizatio


frankfussman 1 year, 8 months ago

One way to tackle the problem of Chick-fil-A would be a student boycott of the business. However, as it is so popular, that might be difficult. But a sit-in might work.


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