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Not a handout

July 14, 2012

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To the editor:

The Medicaid expansion outlined in the Affordable Care Act is not a handout. It is a “hand up,” and thousands of Kansans need it. My question to Gov. Brownback is: Who do you really represent?

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tbaker 1 year, 9 months ago

For your "hand-up" to work, people will be forced to pay more taxes Ms. Wagner. I bet you think forcing them to do so is some mutated form of compassion.

It is amazing to me how many people think that voting for / advocating the act of government giving fill-in-the-blank group of “needy” people money is some species of compassion. Helping the poor and suffering people yourself is compassion. Thinking it is a good idea for our government to use guns to take money from one group and give the money to the poor and suffering people (to “help” them) is immoral, self-righteous bullying statist laziness. People need to be fed, medicated, educated, clothed and sheltered, etc. If we are compassionate, we’ll help those who cannot help themselves, but you get no moral credit for forcing other people to do what you think is right. There is great joy in helping people, but no joy in doing it at gunpoint. Yes I said “gunpoint.” Don’t pay your taxes and men with guns will come take you to prison.

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StirrrThePot 1 year, 9 months ago

You people and your "oh noez we'll have no freedom left if blah blah blah" You're so arrogant and pampered having grown up in this country. If you want to see "unfreedom", move your rear end to Afghanistan for a year. Then come back and tell me about "unfreedom'.

I'll wait.

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Carol Bowen 1 year, 9 months ago

Suggestion for improving healthcare:

Our current healthcare and welfare systems operate on subtraction schemes that force recipients to remain in the system. We need to teach these folks how to become responsible and provide a system that allows them to do so.

Now, before someone takes off on my right wing or my left wing, know that I do have experience in this arena, and I do not want to cause anybody harm. I think this topic needs to be brought forward with no Ill inttent, discussed, and resolved. I believe that everyone would be happier in charge of their own lives.

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Flap Doodle 1 year, 9 months ago

From those clever individuals at the peoples' cube.

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Flap Doodle 1 year, 9 months ago

Pie, sky. (copy and paste as necessary)

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Richard Heckler 1 year, 9 months ago

IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer Insurance for ALL would cover every person for all necessary medical care 24/7 to include:

Wellness /prescription drugs / hospital / surgical / outpatient services / primary and preventive care / emergency services / dental / mental health / home health / physical therapy / rehabilitation (including for substance abuse) / vision care / hearing services including hearing aids / chiropractic / medical equipment / palliative care / long term care

No deductibles / No Co-pays

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Peter Macfarlane 1 year, 9 months ago

Since the governor already has his health insurance (from two sources: the feds and his state insurance) that covers his family, why would he care about helping those that can't afford it?

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Richard Heckler 1 year, 9 months ago

Demand Medicare Single Payer Insurance for All petition http://act.credoaction.com/campaign/medicare_for_all/

Let the consumers decide!

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IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer Insurance for ALL would cover every person for all necessary medical care 24/7 to include: Wellness prescription drugs hospital surgical outpatient services primary and preventive care emergency services dental mental health home health physical therapy rehabilitation (including for substance abuse) vision care hearing services including hearing aids chiropractic durable medical equipment palliative care * long term care

No deductibles No Co-pays

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Allow IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer Insurance for ALL to be available now! We taxpaying consumers want to make the choice. The mechanism is in place as we speak.

Health care in and of itself will remain a private industry.

IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer Insurance for All leaves choice of doctors,clinics,hospital and services across the board to the consumer.

http://www.healthcare-now.org/

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Richard Heckler 1 year, 9 months ago

Answer: Koch brothers and their extensive investments in the medical insurance industry.

Also it is possible Sam Brownback is a shareholder in the health insurance industry.

It is difficult for an industry that receives more than a trillion health insurance $$$$ annually insuring government employees to lose money. The medical insurance industry is a sure bet for investors.

There are plenty of elected officials as shareholders = why they protect this industry.

CEO's walk away with handsome golden parachutes such as a $73 million retirement bonus which could insure several thousand families.

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Carol Bowen 1 year, 9 months ago

In most discussions about Medicaid, very little is said about the elderly. Is it because no one knows that our elder system depends on Medicaid? A senior has to use up all their reserves, to receive assistance through Medicaid. This is not an exclusive group. It will happen to many of us.

It's a sad way to end a life - giving up everything to get medical assistance. No integrity. Oh by the way, has anyone mentioned that one of the leading causes of bankruptcy is medical bills? These folks end up on Medicaid, too.

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ThePilgrim 1 year, 9 months ago

"The Medicaid expansion outlined in the Affordable Care Act", as Ms. Wagner writes in her letter to the editor, will be significant with Obamacare - hundred of thousands of people will be reclassified as Medicaid recipients. That is why Brownback and Republican governors are resisting Obamacare, despite the Supreme Court decision. It will bankrupt the states. Add to that the Ryan budget which cuts funding for Obamacare and the Medicaid expansion behind the scenes, and we have a debacle in the making. And just like employers dumping pensions when 401K's became available, employers will dump insured and they will go on Medicaid or be forced to buy insurance from the exchange on their own, at high prices. And most people don't realize that Obamacare doesn't give you free or fair priced medical insurance. It dumps you onto an exchange where you have to buy insurance at inflated prices. When the insurance companies have mandatory customers it won't drive costs down, it will drive them sky high.

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oneeye_wilbur 1 year, 9 months ago

Face it, most people are not going to live past 70 anyway, they smoke, eat junk food, sit too much and are overweight. The only people who have lived into their late 80s and 90s are those born before the Depression.

Anyone under 75 is going to die sooner or be killed in a car wreck , so it makes little difference about the Koch brothers, Gov Brownback or Obamination health care.

As long as folks dental health is not taken care of, their overall health is going to be shot just as well.

So, if you are in college, smoking, eating junk food 24/7, just drop out and don't focus on getting a job and paying back loans because you won't live long enough.

quote of the day "wilbur 7/14/12"

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Enlightenment 1 year, 9 months ago

I don't begrudge anyone their wealth, but I do believe in being committed to the overall well being of all people. I'm ready to pull my weight and pitch in for those who can't. Can't does not mean "won't" and these days poor is NOT a choice. We need to help each other and quit bitching. Healthcare access is necessary for a compassionate society.

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rockchalk1977 1 year, 9 months ago

Speaking of government handouts, the USDA is using soap-opera-style (telenovelas) to promote the availability of food stamps to Spanish-speaking individuals. The 10-episode series of “Hope Park” presents a dilemma surrounding whether the woman should apply for food stamps. Each short episode ends with a cliffhanger, “Will Ramón convince Diana how easy it is to apply for SNAP?” By the end of the series, the mother overcomes doubts and finally enrolls. Obama truly is the food stamp president. This show should be called "Hopeless Change Park" or better yet "Come And Get It".

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weiser 1 year, 9 months ago

As long as I get free stuff and don't have to pay, I don't care about anything else. Vote Obama!

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George Lippencott 1 year, 9 months ago

I can think of little more offensive than listening to Mr. O'Reilly about how taxing the wealthy an additional 4% will destroy our economy. That is except the dedicated liberals that think those additional taxes will pay for the near trillion dollar a year increase already made in our federal expenditures - mostly for expansion of the social safety net.

The only way we can pay for that is to tax the half of us that pay federal income tax as that is the source to pay for all the additions. We are not talking $20 a month here but thousands of dollars a year on a family making $80K a year.

The unidentified quote above about the result of continuing to take from those who actually work could not be more accurate as to impact. Back before Reagan when a dollar increase in our family income yielded about a 35 cent increase in our standard of living the way was very clear

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reality_check79 1 year, 9 months ago

I'm confused by the comment "what the people want"... The majority of people don't want this, 5 more democrats came out to repeal it in the vote this week, and tour facts make no sence... It is the largest tax in the history of this country, done by a president who hasn't accomplished anything, lost the trust of his own party, protected his AG by not releasing all of the information, and does nothing but blame Bush for 4 years... At some point this loser needs to take responsibility for his lack of action... Not a big Romney fan but Obama has to go... Please feel free to fact check...

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Brock Masters 1 year, 9 months ago

Ms. Wagner your letter is counterproductive and you do a disservice to those that would be helped by the medicaid expansion. When you insult the intelligence of those that are on the fence or opposed to the expansion by lying about it you solidify their opposition. In no way can it be considered a hand up. You know it and so does everyone else.

Now that isn't to say that providing access to affordable care to people that can't currently afford it isn't a good idea, it probably is. But lying about it just makes people close their minds to the idea.

Stick to facts and not lies.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 1 year, 9 months ago

The Koch Bros. say we're broke, so Governors like Perry and Brownback say the poor, the disabled, kids and the elderly must pay.

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grimpeur 1 year, 9 months ago

How poor must a recipient be before these benefits are labeled a handout?

And I agree with the Pilgrim's needs-based assessment: anyone making $60K/year (or more) should not be receiving any tax breaks, welfare payments, food stamps, subsidies, or deductions. Not as a citizen. Not as a corporatIon.

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ThePilgrim 1 year, 9 months ago

Current Medicaid benefits under HealthWave (CHIP) include medical insurance for the children of a family of five making up to $62K per year (that's 232% above poverty level). Is that a "hand up" or a "hand out"? You decide. http://www.kdheks.gov/hcf/healthwave/eligibility_guidelines.html

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Lawrenceks 1 year, 9 months ago

It is a hand out.

"You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it."

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FalseHopeNoChange 1 year, 9 months ago

"Evolve" L.

Call what you want. You 'can't' survive it without someone else's 'money.' You will 'say' and 'so' anything to 'take' it.

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Liberty275 1 year, 9 months ago

Since it's a "hand up" and not a "hand out", you should be OK with a one year limit on medicaid benefits.

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Cant_have_it_both_ways 1 year, 9 months ago

My question to Gov. Brownback is: Who do you really represent? ++++++++++++++++++++ Hopefully the taxpayers more than the moochers.

Lori, if you want something, work for it. Don't take it away from those who do.

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Claudean McKellips 1 year, 9 months ago

He represents the Koch brothers and other moneyed interests, obviously not Kansans.

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