Letters to the Editor

Trash input

January 27, 2012


To the editor:

What’s the point of holding public meetings to supposedly listen to the residents of Lawrence express their opinions on the proposed trash and recycling changes? The Solid Waste Task Force has announced that, regardless of any feedback by the public, they are going to proceed with their recommendations because “it is good for the city of Lawrence.”

From what I read and hear, the residents of Lawrence do not want the proposed changes. People do not want to be required to pay for trash bins. Most people do not have room to store the bins in their garages, so the bins will sit outside in the rain and snow and ice. They will be unsightly. They will be cumbersome. They will likely be blown over or tipped over where animals can get into the trash.  After they are emptied, I often see the carts rolling back out into the street or tipping over where cars have to swerve to avoid them.

Has the task force consulted the waste collection employees who actually do the work? How do they feel about the reduction in jobs if the city goes to automated trash trucks? And how are the figures tabulated regarding how many residents of Lawrence currently recycle? Why would we want to be forced to pay for curbside recycling when Walmart offers a perfectly good and free recycling program, as well as the many free recycling containers located throughout the city?  And all of these largely unwanted changes will cost the residents of Lawrence more money. Very disappointing indeed.


geoismeo 6 years, 3 months ago

Excellent letter, I agree completely. I have no garage and don't want two big carts sitting out in my yard. I throw away only one sack a week, and now will have to put up with these eyesores.

JackMcKee 6 years, 3 months ago

Cromwell also brought Lawrence the $20 million parking garage/library. Pastries for thought.

jafs 6 years, 3 months ago

We voted on that.

You can't blame him for the way people voted, and how many people didn't vote at all.

Just for the record, I voted against it.

JackMcKee 6 years, 3 months ago

I voted against it as well. It was one of the first pet projects of Cramwell, though. With the propaganda the city put out on the library and the lies that were fabricated by the library board is it really any wonder it passed in this town? This is the same place that drives empty buses all over town.

BlackVelvet 6 years, 3 months ago

For what it's worth, many years ago, the city commission (Don Binns) came right out and stated that no matter if the proposal to build a new city hall was voted for or against, they (the city) was going to build it anyway. If the commission is going to do whatever it wishes, despite the will of the citizens of Lawrence, what's the point in even putting items to a vote.

jafs 6 years, 3 months ago

What on earth does that have to do with the library??

We had a chance to vote on whether or not we wanted to undertake and fund that project - if you didn't vote, shame on you.

Turnouts are absurdly low here.

skinny 6 years, 3 months ago

I think it is time to fire Cronwell! Get some new blood in here NOW!!

Cant_have_it_both_ways 6 years, 3 months ago

Guess the next election...throw them all out and start the process to get rid of all this crap. If he is pushing for this so hard, there must be an envelope full of cash somewhere in the mix as no competent person would force this issue.

rjm10215 6 years, 3 months ago

I agree completely agree as well. Certainly glad I didn't waste my time attending a meeting if "the Solid Waste Task Force has announced that, regardless of any feedback by the public, they are going to proceed with their recommendations because “it is good for the city of Lawrence.”" It might be good for the city coffers but it is not good for the city residents.

I would like to know if there will be an option to purchase one of their containers. Can you imagine how many times you will pay for one over the years just paying their monthly fee? I already have a commercial size trash container that we have seen them use on their truck lifts. Do I get to use my own without charge? I think we all know the answer to that!

Getaroom 6 years, 3 months ago

geoismeo: Keep driving your GEO for as long as it will gogo. A clear solution for you and some others, is that you don't keep a trash cart at your home(no one is forcing you to do that), but you will pay for the service just as you do now, but they will not pick your trash up in your old container. Or alternatively, sneak out and put your "one" weekly bag of trash in your neighbors cart, surely they will not mind supporting you to relieve you from the burden of housing a polycart. You, like all of us, must pay to live in a community, that is what living in a community is all about. I know, such a liberal idea! You pay for gas, electricity, water, a sewer, street maintenance and taxes for kids to have schools and etc and all of those change over time and are "crammed down your throats" too. You have personal choices, unplug from the grid, live without heat, running water and such and basically you are free to live as our ancestors once did. Otherwise, if complaining, having an opinion pleases you, that is what you will do too. JackMcKee thinks being informed, i.e. educated, means being a liberal. Ok it's a term big deal. Perhaps he will join you in your revolution against BIG City GOV, he takes on this issue with and you can be members of "the clan of the cave bear" and you can hoard your trash until it becomes unbearable. Meanwhile keep doing what you are doing now and see if that changes anything in your world for the better.

jafs 6 years, 3 months ago

Come on.

There are reasonable objections to this plan.

First, it will put people out of work. Next, if it is supposed to save money, why will our bills immediately go up? Those of us who already recycle on our own, and are satisfied with that, will have to pay for a city plan which may pick up less than we currently recycle elsewhere. Trash trucks which pick up recycling will linger for a longer time at the pick up location, using significantly more gas (they get about 3-5 mpg), and increasing emissions. It doesn't include apartment complexes, thus leaving out about 1/2 of the city's residents. If Deffenbaugh gets into this, which is likely, there are many complaints about their service in other cities.

The simpler and better way to increase recycling, in my view, would be to implement tiered charges for trash collection - PAYT. It wouldn't cost the city much, if anything, would keep people employed, allow residents to use whatever recycling options they like, etc.

geoismeo 6 years, 3 months ago

Thank you getaroom, you really set me straight!

Richard Heckler 6 years, 3 months ago

I say change the solid waste system to Pay As You Throw which should pay for itself.

Then license the private recyclers. Let's get on with this.

And BTW stop looking for ways to put people out of work. The economy needs as many people working as possible. This is not a new concept.

David Reynolds 6 years, 3 months ago

Lawrence is a perfect example of intolerance. The Liberals in control are intolerant of ideas or wishes contrary to their own. When Cromwell picked an 11 member commission with 9 practicing ecologists & Cromwell trying to burnished his reputation & business, what did we expect?

A perfect recipe for authoritarianism.

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