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Kobach likens same-sex unions to drug abuse

August 27, 2012, 10:05 p.m. Updated August 28, 2012, 12:12 p.m.

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— Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach isn’t just interested in cracking down on illegal immigration.

Last week, at the Republican Party National Convention platform committee meeting in Tampa, Fla., Kobach argued against an amendment to the GOP’s party platform that would have backed same-sex civil unions.

In speaking against the proposal, Kobach equated same-sex relationships with drug abuse and polygamy. “Our government routinely judges situations where you might regard people completely affecting themselves, like, for example, the use of controlled substances, like, for example, polygamy that is voluntarily entered into,” Kobach said. “We condemn those activities even though they are not hurting other people, at least directly. So this is worded way too broadly for inclusion in the platform.”

Thomas Witt, executive director of the Kansas Equality Coalition, said Kobach’s comments weren’t surprising, but they were disappointing.

“You would think that after spending some time in government, he would know that gay and lesbian people are just people too. We are not criminals,” Witt said.

Kobach denied he was comparing the two, but rather he was arguing against the broadness of the proposal.

"I didn't in any way equate homosexuality with drug use or polygamy," said Kobach.

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Liberal 1 year, 7 months ago

Kobach does a lot of great things but on this one he is wrong.

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Armstrong 1 year, 7 months ago

Scotty, you're title should read " In my opinion" Kobach likens.... As always short on fact, lots of BS.

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James Nelson 1 year, 7 months ago

More and more Kansans are wishing Mr. Kobach would go take a flying leap in the ocean while in Tampa. He might consider just staying there. Florida needs him far worse than we do, anyway.

After putting two and two together following an article appearing in todays Topeka paper it appears that the same Mr. Kobach is responsible for the car registration mess most Kansans are facing. Oh, I'm sure he would deny it and is so glad people haven't put two and two together before now. In his misguided zeal surrounding illegal voters it became necessary to overhaul the system of issuing drivers licenses for voter ID purposes. The change could not be accomplished without re-doing the car registration system. You have undoubtedly heard that the new drivers license system cannot be used until sometime next year now because of the issues with the new car registration system. This really PO'd Kobach because he wanted to rely on the new drivers license system to, you know, keep all those illegals from voting for Obama in November.

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bunnyhawk 1 year, 7 months ago

Once again, I don't understand why he isn't in Kansas doing the job he's paid to do. Once again, he's off in another state doing something else. Are we paying for his trip to Tampa? If I become a Republican can I get a free trip to Tampa?

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Carol Bowen 1 year, 7 months ago

Kobach could be angling to become the next governor.

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biggunz 1 year, 7 months ago

It takes a male and a femal to create life.

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Bob_Keeshan 1 year, 7 months ago

equate [ɪˈkweɪt] vb (mainly tr) 1. to make or regard as equivalent or similar, esp in order to compare or balance

Huuuuuge difference between compare and equate. Massive, wide gulf.

I'm confused as to why people are upset with the reporter. Kobach stood up and said same-sex marriage, just like drug use or polygamy, should not be tolerated or given legal recognition.

All of you running away from Kobach's comments agree with him 100%. Why is it every time Scott Rothschild prints your beliefs in the paper, you accuse him of being a liberal journalist?

Be proud of your beliefs.

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Ragingbear 1 year, 7 months ago

Hey man ,I got some top quality same-sex union here. The first taste is always free. Yeah, that's the ticket. Get em hooked, then reel them in. Soon we will switch them up to the harder stuff. As soon as I figure out what that is, I will get them hooked on that.

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prospector 1 year, 7 months ago

Republicans don't want equal rights, which they have now as much as they want thought control of the rest of us and acceptance for behavior that God has already condemned.

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SageonPage 1 year, 7 months ago

Homosexuals don't want equal rights, which they have now as much as they want thought control of the rest of us and acceptance for behavior that God has already condemned. The average male Homosexual marriage lasts 1.5 years and in that time they have 8 other sexual partners. This is more smoke and mirrors from the left for their goal is to defy God and to destroy the institution of marriage. Nuff said.

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jonas_opines 1 year, 7 months ago

No amount of spin or parsing individual words in this headline will change that he is speaking in contravention of limited government, which Republicans like to trumpet that they actually believe in. You can't really get more obvious than “We condemn those activities even though they are not hurting other people, at least directly."

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Fred Whitehead Jr. 1 year, 7 months ago

And agin we are treated to the sewage and viciousness out of the mouth of Kobach. This bigoted, ignorant, offensive, representation of true Republ;ican policy is a total jerk, a dimwit and a total embarrasment to the people of Kansas. The clueless idiots who voted for this moron must certainly be celebrating their great choice for our absentee public official and cheering him on as the greatest stain ever inflicted on the State of Kansas.

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autie 1 year, 7 months ago

SageyPagey, I'm thinking the majority of Kansans that voted for the prick Kobach got duped and didn't understand at the time he was going to not do the job he was elected to do and run around the country spewing vitrolic hate for brown people, and now gays and some mormons. But you know how it is here in the Sunflower State where too many vote first and ask questions later. Look for the "R" and make an "X". It is a 'complex' process.

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classclown 1 year, 7 months ago

nondescript

The Journal World / Rothschild are really stretching to make Kobach look bad because they don't agree with him. Typical.

August 28, 2012 at 1:38 a.m.

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Scott Rothschild is not a journalist. He is a propagandist.

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Kirk Larson 1 year, 7 months ago

"Kobach equated same-sex relationships with drug abuse and polygamy."

Like if Mitt Rmoney's Grandpa was on crack?

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Gotland 1 year, 7 months ago

Kobach is becoming a Democrat. Endorsing larger government under pretense of protecting humans from their behaviors.

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SageonPage 1 year, 7 months ago

Thank you Mr. Kobach for representing the morals of Kansas and the huge majority of Kansans.

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Steven Gaudreau 1 year, 7 months ago

What Kobach is doing is similar to the Phelps family. Both are educated individuals pandering to the less educated. Phelps could care less about gays, he wants money pure and simple and thousands of dimwits send him a lot of money to Phelps for acting like a backward a** hillbilly. Kobach is doing the same thing. The idea of drug abuse and gay marriage is similar to so ridiculous, there is no way he believe's it's true. What he does think is if he makes these offensive and stupid statements, he will get free press and the hillbilly's will start sending $$ and votes and he is correct.

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Pastor_Bedtime 1 year, 7 months ago

The only person I see acting all f*ed up here is Kobach, whose drug of choice seems to be power. Kobach fans are mostly frustrated old guys who don't have enough control over those around them, and who aim to make their will the way of the land. And each day that passes makes them less relevant to the majority ~ just like those who opposed interracial marriage. Kobach is beginning to make Phill Kline look like a master statesman.

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donttreadonme 1 year, 7 months ago

I don't know why people are bothering parsing Kobach's words.

Dooesn't anyone care that while admitting that polygamy, same sex marriages and substance abuse don't affect other people, the government has an interest in controlling that.

Just another 'small government" grifter who wants government control of people's lives.

Compare, equate, liken,...whatever. He's dangerous and he's playing with our money.

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CLARKKENT 1 year, 7 months ago

While i am not a fan of President Obama, I see why the Democrats get votes. With the likes of Kobach, Akins, Jenkins, and our Governor Brownback, there is a reason why I have trouble voting republican. The party has changed, for the worse, over the last decade.

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KS 1 year, 7 months ago

I think the LJW just puts this stuff on line just to stir up the natives of Lawrnece. Enjoy yourselves!

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Liberty275 1 year, 7 months ago

I think homosexuality is just like drug use and polygamy. It's none of the governments business what people do with their own bodies. Kobach needs that jesus garbage exercised from his mind and maybe then he will be an acceptable human.

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drake 1 year, 7 months ago

I would say that this is a new low for Rothschild but we all know that it isn't.

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lunacydetector 1 year, 7 months ago

quite the stretch with this story JW.......another reason to add to re-evaluating paying for the print version of your paper.

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Matthew Herbert 1 year, 7 months ago

Ahh the Journal World- don't let the absence of a story keep you from writing the story. Sometimes their journalism reminds me of my days in middle school when I would try and cross out letters of words on a page to make them say bad things.

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autie 1 year, 7 months ago

It is clear that Kansas has no Secretary of State due to job abandonment. Is there a provision,must be...does the Governor have the authority to appoint someone to fill out his term?

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Sharon Nottingham 1 year, 7 months ago

How are same sex individuals completely affecting themselves? That comment makes no sense. And, yes, he was not equating it with drug abuse and polygamy. Those were examples of his pathetic argument.

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tolawdjk 1 year, 7 months ago

Im no fan of Kobach, and he could have turned the phrase better, but when you listen to his comment in its entirety, its obvious people are twisting it.

He was commenting that the phrasing of the amendment to the platform was too vague in that it would seem to state that the GOP condoned "all" activity that would not harm others, such as drug abuse and polygamy along with same sex unions.

It was not a direct comment on same sex unions but a comment on the wording of the amendment.

The man does well enough on his own in putting his foot in his mouth, no need to stretch for them.

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tange 1 year, 7 months ago

I'll restrict my comment to the adulteration referred to as legal marriage. Seems to me that "one man and one man" or "one woman and one woman" is no more vague than "one man and one woman," legally speaking.

But this does beg the polygamy question, given, e.g., the following specifications...
one man and two women
one man and three women
one man and four women
... and so on and so fifth....

Not to appear sexist, let me also iterate the complementary gender configurations...
one woman and one man and one woman
one woman and one man and two women
one woman and one man and three women
... and so on and so filth....

Granted, there would need to be some limiting number to the above sequences, for, as we all know, a corporation is not a marriage.

/ unless the Supreme Court says so

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cowboy 1 year, 7 months ago

Is Kobach on vacation or Ks payroll time for this non sense ?

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FalseHopeNoChange 1 year, 7 months ago

This complex manifested 'metaphor' is not symbiotic nas "drug abuse" as it is with the 'unsustainable' Chevy "Volt." Pursuant to 'viable' sustainability et al., the "Volt" precursors to the event in question shall suffice.

++++ General Motors is halting, for a month, the manufacture of its well-known but seldom-sold Chevrolet Volt extended-range electric car, according to trade publication Automotive News.

It would be the second interruption in production for the Volt, which can go 38 miles on battery power before needing a recharge from its gasoline engine or via a plug-in.

Here's the Automotive News, citing unnamed sources, reports the Detroit-Hamtramck plant from Sept. 17 until Oct. 15. Leaders of the United Auto Workers union told the plant's 1,500 workers about the scheduled downtime last week, the source said.

A GM spokesman declined comment. "We don't comment on production schedules," the spokesman told the News. "We continue to match supply and demand."

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/post/2012/08/gm-suspends-chevy-volt-production-over-slow-sales/1#.UDwCgKDF9ac

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notaubermime 1 year, 7 months ago

I agree with nondescript. The wording in this article exaggerates what was actually said. Kobach listed use of controlled substances (which does not have the same connotation as drug abuse) and polygamy as other examples of illegal activity that only directly affects the individual. This was said as a rationale for why the wording in the proposed amendment was too vague.

I have a extremely negative view of Kobach, but that does not make me have any wish to criticize him for words he did not say. I would expect a journalist to have a better command of the English language than this and consider this article to be an example of poor journalism.

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nondescript 1 year, 7 months ago

"Kobach equated same-sex relationships with drug abuse and polygamy." "Our government routinely judges situations where you might regard people completely affecting themselves, like, for example, the use of controlled substances, like, for example, polygamy that is voluntarily entered into,” Kobach said.

He did NOT equate them, he COMPARED some examples. There is a difference, people.

The Journal World / Rothschild are really stretching to make Kobach look bad because they don't agree with him. Typical.

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Mike Ford 1 year, 7 months ago

kobach believes in unicorns.

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blue73harley 1 year, 7 months ago

Did Kris have his clothes on when he made that silly speech? How much did he have to drink? Is mad cow disease affecting my fellow Republicans?

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 1 year, 7 months ago

I wonder if Kobach and Akin will seek a constitutional amendment to provide breast milk to homosexuals.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 1 year, 7 months ago

Next week, he'll treat us to his condemnation of miscegenation.

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DanR 1 year, 7 months ago

Please, just keep talking, K.K. Ks SoS, and join your buddy, Akin, on the repulsive lunatic fringe.

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Katara 1 year, 7 months ago

I am no longer surprised by these things. This makes me sad.

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