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Letters to the Editor

Koch causes

April 9, 2012

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To the editor:

The March 31 Saturday Column was published one day too soon. It should have been an April Fools’ joke on April 1. To espouse that the Koch Brothers (Charles and David) are examples of what is correct (not right!), takes too many liberties with the editor’s pen.

True, Kochs give to cancer research (maybe as a result of a guilty conscience — they use cancer-causing chemicals, formaldehyde, for one — in Koch industries and have been rated in the top ten polluters in industry). Their contributions to universities have been in return for hiring ultra-conservative professors.

However, the Kochs support ultra-conservative, out-of-the-mainstream causes and people who would: 1) devalue women and their power to make decisions in their lives; 2) defund arts and cultural programs; and 3) deregulate most all business/industry, taking us back to the dark ages in dealing with the environment and worker rights. If the Koch brothers have their way, income taxes, the most non-regressive tax we have, would go away as a funding source for government. The Koch brothers’ (and those they contribute to) idea of less government is actually no government — except when dealing with abortions or gay rights.

An old adage “you are known by the friends you keep” should be adjusted to “you are known by the causes you support.” They have every right to do this. They just need to be exposed so people know what they are actually doing and judge accordingly.

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Flap Doodle 2 years ago

Dang, the disappointed progressives just can't get enough of this hate-fest.

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Richard Heckler 2 years ago

More on ALEC from the 4/12/12 morning news:

Amidst a movement to overturn "Stand Your Ground" gun laws after the Trayvon Martin shooting, we look at the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), a corporate-funded group that worked with the National Rifle Association to pass the measures across the country.

On Wednesday, the fast-food giant Wendy’s became the sixth corporation to publicly cut ties with the secretive right-wing group for backing the laws.

Over the past week McDonald’s, Kraft Foods, Coca-Cola, Pepsi and Intuit have all announced that they have decided to not renew their membership with ALEC.

We speak with Lisa Graves, executive director of the Center for Media and Democracy, which runs "ALEC Exposed," a website that published more than 800 "model" bills and resolutions secretly voted on by corporations and politicians. "We’ve seen ALEC, which is really a corporate bill mill, push legislation on all sorts of issues to make it harder for Americans to get justice, to make it harder for Americans to vote, to make it harder for Americans to have their day in court if they or their loved one is killed or injured by a corporation, by corporate greed, by a bad drug, by a product," Graves says.

She notes many of the draft bills outline the privatization of Social Security, schools and prisons

http://www.democracynow.org/2012/4/12/outrage_over_stand_your_ground_laws

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Richard Heckler 2 years ago

We will never drill our way to lower gas prices no matter what they claim. We've been down this road before.

Big Oil spends more than $400,000 a day on Washington lobbyists to push their "pollution and profits" agenda.

Hmmmmmmmmm

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Linda Endicott 2 years ago

I read a lot of stuff online about the Koch family yesterday...pretty interesting and scary stuff...

David Koch contributes to cancer research, IMHO, because he's been living with it off and on for 20 years...he knows his remission could be over at any moment...he's looking for a cure for himself...I don't think he much cares about whether anyone else gets a cure...or could afford one...

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ThePilgrim 2 years ago

Politics make strange bedfellows.

Koch is well known and well published, with his "Market Based Management", as being the "anarcho-capitalist" version of Libertarian. They could not give a rat's patootie about the conservative religious right's causes. In fact, Sunday gets in the way of work, as many of the workaholic Koch upper echelons know.

We unfortunately have a two party system. My first exposure to Lawrence came when people were protesting on 9th and Mass about how Obama was not far enough Left. And the Honk for Hemp guy was on the corner. All of these folks will vote for Obama, even if he is not far enough left for them.

Same with the Kochs. They are consistent in their MBM approach to everything. They were prominent Libertarians, but must have realized that they would have to buddy up with the GOP to get anything done, and not lose more ground.

But "devalue women, etc?" Ridiculous.

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Jim Williamson 2 years ago

I suppose I'm a weak person for hating what the Kochs and Soros are doing to our country and our democratic process.

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deathpenaltyliberal 2 years ago

"FalseHopeNoChange (anonymous) says… The ant and the grasshopper...Blah blah blah"

Idle hands are the devil's workshop. Get a job.

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FalseHopeNoChange 2 years ago

The ANT AND THE GRASSHOPPER

OLD VERSION

The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter.

The grasshopper thinks the ant is a fool and laughs and dances and plays the summer away.

Come winter, the ant is warm and well fed.

The grasshopper has no food or shelter, so he dies out in the cold.

MORAL OF THE OLD STORY: Be responsible for yourself!

MODERN VERSION

The Koch works hard in the withering heat and the rain all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter.

The Liberaltine thinks Koch is a fool and laughs and dances and plays the summer away.

Come winter, the shivering Liberaltine calls a press conference and demands to know why the Koch should be allowed to be warm and well fed while he is cold and starving.

CBS, NBC, PBS, CNN, and ABC show up to provide pictures of the shivering Liberaltine next to a video of Koch in his comfortable home with a table filled with food. America is stunned by the sharp contrast.

How can this be, that in a country of such wealth, this poor Liberaltine is allowed to suffer so?

Kermit the Frog appears on Oprah with a Liberaltine and everybody cries when they sing, 'It's Not EasyBeing Green...'

ACORN stages a demonstration in front of Koch's house where the news stations film the SEIU group singing, We shall overcome.

Then Rev. Jeremiah Wright has the group kneel down to pray for the Liberaltine's sake, while he damns the Kochs.

President Obama condems the Kochs and blames President Bush 43, President Bush 41, President Reagan, Christopher Columbus, and the Pope for the Liberaltine's plight.

Nancy Pelosi & Harry Reid exclaim in an interview with Larry King that Koch has gotten rich off the back of Liberaltine's and both call for an immediate tax hike on Koch to make him pay his fair share.

Finally, the EEOC drafts the Economic Equity & Anti-Liberaltine Act retroactive to the beginning of the summer.

Koch is fined for failing to hire a proportionate number of green Liberaltines and, having nothing left to pay his retroactive taxes, his home is confiscated by the Government Green Czar and given to the Liberaltine.

The story ends as we see the Liberaltine and his free-loading friends finishing up the last bits of Koch's food while the government house he is in, which, as you recall, just happens to be Koch's old house, crumbles around them because the Liberaltine doesn't maintain it.

Koch has disappeared in the snow, never to be seen again.

The Liberaltine is found dead in a drug related incident, and the house, now abandoned, is taken over by a gang of Trespassers who terrorize the ramshackle, once prosperous and peaceful, neighborhood.

The entire Nation collapses bringing the rest of the free world with it.

(from a source)

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weiser 2 years ago

I just want free stuff!

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rockchalk1977 2 years ago

George Soros is the most destructive leftist in the country. Soros has given more than $7 billion to a who’s who of left-wing groups like ACORN, Apollo Alliance, National Council of La Raza, Tides Foundation, Huffington Post, Southern Poverty Law Center, Soujourners, People for the American Way, Planned Parenthood, and the National Organization for Women. Soros gave some $24 million to 527 various groups dedicated to defeating Bush. Soros hosted a 2004 fund-raiser for Obama when he was running for the Illinois Senate and gave the maximum-allowed contribution within hours of Obama’s announcement that he was running for President.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=42674

The Koch family will never come close to having the influence the left-wing nutcase Soros has and will in the future.

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Clickker 2 years ago

"True, Kochs give to cancer research (maybe as a result of a guilty conscience — they use cancer-causing chemicals, formaldehyde, for one "...of course..they run REFINERIES and chemical plants. If you say plastics cause cancer, then yes they are guilty..but then so is everyone on this board because last I looked ALL computers use plastic. Do you not drive? Seems like everyone uses gasoline. Those calling out the Kochs for this are hypocritical. They are libertarians. They feel that the free market, not heavy handed command and control regulation is best for human growth. It is fun to speculate that they are some puppetmaster, but in reality, they are just funding causes that they beleive in, even in cases where it would behoove financially to be silent.

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jimincountry 2 years ago

Mean ole white rich conservatives from Kansas should not be free to use their money to influence others unless the liberal left approves.

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Steven Gaudreau 2 years ago

Why aren't the Libs up in arms over Apples use of Chinese slave labor?

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its_just_math 2 years ago

Poor, poor liberals, under attack by a couple of really rich Kansas brothers......surely to soon be enslaved by them. The paranoia, fear and loathing is heady and thick in the ranks of stringent forum liberals.

Why don't you look 1200 miles east---that's where your fear ought to be focused. On the disaster in the white house and his circle of radical left Dem lackeys.

Oh I get it, Obama giveth and Koch taketh away. Is that a fair assessment?

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deathpenaltyliberal 2 years ago

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Mike Ford 2 years ago

ask the Osage Nation of Oklahoma how honest and not deceptive the Kochs were in measuring oil production. Theft....the old fashioned christian way.....

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rtwngr 2 years ago

All of you that fear Koch have no qualms about a European who bought the 2008 election for Barack Obama, namely George Soros. You have no moral high ground to stand on so please just shut up.

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Michael LoBurgio 2 years ago

How The Kochs Are Fracking America

The October 2011 issue of Discovery, the in-house Koch Industries newsletter, explains how the Koch Industries empire is profiting from the “really exciting” fracking boom:

http://thinkprogress.org/green/2012/03/02/436669/how-the-kochs-are-fracking-america/

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Paul R Getto 2 years ago

Good points. I am amused by those who claim money from one group is good and from another evil. Money is the milk of politics and all who choose to participate have a right to promote their causes. The Kochs are looking out for their best interests, as should we all. The people will sort this all out at the polls....if they bother to vote in August and November. Shanti.

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bobberboy 2 years ago

Don't buy Angel Soft toilet paper or Sparkle Paper towels or anything made buy Georgia Pacific if you don't like the Kochs. All the paper products and dispensers the State of Kansas has are all made by Georgia Pacific ( I've always wondered why.) Maybe it's the Speaker of the House O'Neal connection ? This State is bought and sold by these libertarian freaks ! I think someone is on the take !

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cato_the_elder 2 years ago

The Kochs have the same right to put their money where their beliefs are that George Soros and other filthy rich liberals have.

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FalseHopeNoChange 2 years ago

"Worlds are colliding" Mr. Grant! Did you know too that Barbara Streisand is not singing for The Flexible Obama!? This is the "First" time since the 60's that she hasn't sung, been an "asset" for a Democrat!

Oh! This is terrible!

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