Letters to the Editor

Support jobs bill

September 21, 2011

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To the editor:

War, climate change, the economy, corruption, all require a Congress that is determined to govern, not just run for re-election, blocking any initiative the president puts forth. Rep. Kevin Yoder should support the president’s jobs bill. Put Americans back to work and start rebuilding the economy rather than protecting an elite class that won’t survive very long if there is no middle class.

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ksrush 3 years, 10 months ago

If you really want to support jobs, vote republican in 2012. This still is the United States of America not the United Socialists Alliance

Scott Drummond 3 years, 10 months ago

Most Americans still remember the abject failure of george w bush, congressional republicans and tax breaks to produce American jobs.

Liberty275 3 years, 10 months ago

We all remember the continuing abject failure of obama.

Jimo 3 years, 10 months ago

Why would anyone want to vote for treasonous Republicans transparently attempting to sabotage the economic for partisan reasons? They don’t even try to hide their fingerprints from these efforts anymore. Three examples just from today!

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/21/business/economy/gop-urges-no-further-fed-stimulus.html?_r=2&hp

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-21/issa-sought-u-s-clean-energy-aid.html

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/182621-democrats-ramp-up-criticism-of-gop-spending-bill

Richard Heckler 3 years, 10 months ago

Exactly Ms Marshall. Jobs bills have worked in the past and would work again.

RINO's are equipped for killing jobs by the millions,costing trillions of dollars and ruining economies. How do we know this?

Reagan/Bush and Bush Cheney home loan scams proved it. Have we forgotten how much this liberal spending RINO party has the cost the USA over the past 31 years?

Oh yes those Bush tax cuts are quite expensive to the middle class because this group is forced to make up the difference.

Yes for jobs!!!

Flap Doodle 3 years, 10 months ago

The Senate Democrats don't seem to agree with you, Nancy.

Orwell 3 years, 10 months ago

A handful of Senate DINOs are in bed with all the Republicans and their capitalist cronies. As long as they're committed to continuing stealth warfare on the middle class and the poor we'll continue on the path to second-rate, banana republic status.

Liberty275 3 years, 10 months ago

President Downgrade is in no position dictate how the other branch votes.

"By a margin of 49 percent to 36 percent, voters said they definitely plan to vote against Obama, according to the poll. Independents by 53 percent to 28 percent said they definitely plan to vote against him.

With that sentiment permeating the electorate a little more than a year before the general election, most Americans think Obama won't win a second term."

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/09/20/v-fullstory/2417008/poll-finds-obama-losing-ground.html

dontcallmedan 3 years, 10 months ago

By a vote of 100% to 0%, I plan to disagree with whatever liberty275 has to say.

rtwngr 3 years, 10 months ago

Obama is a joke of a president. His jobs bill is not a jobs bill at all. It is another massive spending proposal that makes the national fiscal situation worse. Government does not produce wealth therefore it does not produce jobs. Government has to take wealth from somewhere in order to spend it elsewhere. The private sector of the economy is the job producer. This inexperienced president has brought our country to the brink of disaster. When experience was called for in a leader, all of you liberals voted for "hope and change." Well, I hope it changes in 2012! My vote will be for anybody that isn't Barack Hussein Obama.

overthemoon 3 years, 10 months ago

wealth does not create jobs. jobs create wealth.

what we're talking here is a priming of the pump approach to get the money that's sitting stagnant in the hands of the wealthy to start circulating in the economy again. jobs at the blue collar level create the demand for goods that gets the economy moving.

perhaps you didn't see the great bit about Bachmann speechifying to a company in Iowa, telling them the gov't doesn't create jobs. The company makes signals and equipment for road construction...80-90 percent of their work is government contracts. Who else buys traffic signals? Same for a number of other professions. School construction is contracted out to private companies and design professionals. Government created jobs. and on and on and on.

tbaker 3 years, 10 months ago

Ms. Marshall - You are misguided. The federal government does not create jobs. Read the constitution. This is not it's role. The federal government can however, "help" create conditions that are favorable to job creation. The Presidnet's bill does not do that. Massive defic spending and huge national debt is choking our economy, and he wants to spend more. The president does not propose any serious deregulation or impose limits on unemployment benefits. He does not propose a balanced budget amendment or a line-item veto. He does not propose getting people off unemployment - he extends it. He does not propose getting people off of Medicaid, off of food stamps, or get them back into earning a living and paying taxes. He proposes ever-more expanded roles for the federal government we can no longer pay for instead. He should cut the corporate tax rate to zero, cut capitol gains tax to zero, and make the "Bush" tax cut permenant. He should seek to repeal the Sarbanes–Oxley Act and ObamaCare laws. Those things would stimulate job growth. He wants to stimulate federal government growth. That obviously doesn't work.

Ken Lassman 3 years, 10 months ago

Outstanding in your field, and you'd better zip up because the wind is in your face and your shoes are about to get wet. Job creation is a collaboration between government and the private sector and don't kid yourself--you need both. Sarbanes Oxley is not stopping most small businesses from hiring; tight fisted banks who want a guarantee on their return are choosing to buy bonds and T notes instead of loaning it out to businesses is much more of a factor. Obamacare is actually helping many families cover for their 20 something kids who can't find a job but still need health insurance. Cutting tax rates for corporations to zero is so greedy I don't even know where to start. How about how corporations want to be treated as individuals when it comes to "free speech" and infinite life spans (question: when is the last time you met a person who never died?) but wants to be exempt from being a responsible member of the community by paying their share of the taxes?

Creating new taxes and job stimulus programs was good enough for Reagan, but now the Republican Taliban has taken control of the GOP and I see no hope for this country until its people recognize that there is no future in this economic world without making investments and throw out those reactionaries.

overthemoon 3 years, 10 months ago

oh brother. every single sentence is wrong or based on misinformation and crazy math.

Ken Lassman 3 years, 10 months ago

Well, well, such an incisive critique. Name calling saves so much time.

grammaddy 3 years, 10 months ago

End the tax cuts and the wars. Bring our troops home. Watch how fast the economy bounces back.

Brock Masters 3 years, 10 months ago

I am not sure if ending the wars will improve the economy but I am sure that we won't be spending money to nation build countries that hate us and that American men and women will not die fighting in these wars. These are good enough reasons for me to end the wars.

Cant_have_it_both_ways 3 years, 10 months ago

The military, like it or not, is one of the largest consumers of good and services. Bringing them home will save quite a bit, but the machine will keep churning.

JohnBrown 3 years, 10 months ago

I love tea party rhetoric. Take "Job Creators" (i.e. the rich and wealthy and large corporations). According to the tea partiers we should create jobs by taxing them less since they'll have more money to hire more folks. (This is called 'supply side' economics. ). The big BUT is that no company in a recession that is given a tax break will use that money to hire more people, not unless demand goes up for their products. Demand goes up when regular people have more money, which kinda coincides with them having a job. If the government funded rebuilding our bridges it would create jobs, giving more people money to spend, giving companies a reason to increase production and hire more people.

It appears that the real 'job creators' are people who spend money to create demand for more products (this is called 'demand side' economics). So by all means, let's decrease taxes for the "jobs creators" while we 1) fund bridge repair and 2) raise taxes on the wealthy.

Cant_have_it_both_ways 3 years, 10 months ago

Ask Gibson guitars how they feel about creating jobs.

overthemoon 3 years, 10 months ago

hmmm. funny thing is that the jobs bill proposes TAX CUTS for businesses of that size. Does that make you feel better? And the bottom line, according to many small business owners, is that taxes have very little to do with hiring decisions. Its all about demand for their products or services. Even with a zero tax rate, they aren't going to hire if they don't have customers.

jafs 3 years, 10 months ago

Yep.

It seems obvious - businesses will only hire more employees if they can count on enough increased customer demand to make it profitable.

Otherwise, they'll do something else with their tax breaks.

verity 3 years, 10 months ago

And with the middle class having less and less money to spend, the demand will keep going down.

jafs 3 years, 10 months ago

Yep.

We're in a nasty downward spiral, and neither individuals nor businesses seem to be doing what might help turn that around.

Flap Doodle 3 years, 10 months ago

How many people lost their jobs at Solyndra despite the fact that the current regime poured over $500 million into a money pit of the finest kind?

Mike Ford 3 years, 10 months ago

can't get anything right both ways? the Gibson issue was over intentionally mislabeling an endangered wood source used to make guitars here and the wood was not approved for use due to it's endangered state. I say this as a loyal Fender guitar player since 1983. Please.. if you're going to try and stir the pot get your info right....oh that's right...don't let facts get in the way of hyperbole...a tea party and gop staple...and for every solyndra let's dredge up Haliburton or if you really want to dig in the archives let's bring up Silverado Savings and Loan....don't point fingers if you have issues of your own....the behavoir of the gop makes me wish Obama hadn't given all the bush era crooks a pass because now the criminals act like hypocrite angels....

think_about_it 3 years, 10 months ago

Jobs Bill?

I have not seen a Jobs Bill.

Please post it here so that we may become familiar with it. Thank you.

thebigspoon 3 years, 10 months ago

May be amazing to you, but real news is not posted here, so of course you haven't seen a jobs bill. Perhaps you should spend a little time reading/listening to/watching real news programming and then you can come back here and say something that means something.

Flap Doodle 3 years, 10 months ago

In other news: "...Almost two weeks after President Obama spoke on jobs before a joint session of Congress, and demanded that Congress “pass this bill,” the Senate has done precious little to move forward on the president’s demand. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., admitted Monday that the Senate floor was “pretty well jammed now,” suggesting that there may not be time to move on the bill until next month. The Senate has been working through the Trade Adjustment Assistance this week, as well as the Continuing Resolution and FEMA funding. Next week, the Senate has a planned recess for the Jewish new Year Rosh Hashanah. Reid has indicated the first item up after that is Chinese currency. If Reid wanted to bring Obama’s jobs bill to the Senate floor for debate and a vote, of course he could, as Reid sets the Senate schedule. He has not done so yet, which is perhaps most telling about how he believes the Democratic caucus feels about the jobs bill. Reid has said that the caucus is discussing whether it’s going to take up the whole bill or go at it piecemeal, as many Democratic senators have suggested..." http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/09/obamas-jobs-bill-pretty-well-jammed-in-the-senate/

jayhawklawrence 3 years, 10 months ago

I am a little confused.

It is very easy to see a lot of the Republican lies and misinformation. It is not as easy to see what the Democrat administration is doing and the news media is not reliable.

I know a ton of business owners and they are constantly complaining about Obama, about health care and about regulations but when I ask for details, few if any have any information other than what Rush or Beck would be talking about. In other words, very smart and successful business people are relying on information which I consider unreliable.

So who is right?

One thing is certain. If the business community will not support Obama because of their perceptions, not necessarily reality, because of the way they have been persuaded, we are really in trouble getting the economy moving again.

From where I am sitting, the only thing the Republicans are pushing is massive tax cuts and deregulation. Basically, BUSH ll. Can we survive another debacle like that?

The additional problem with BUSH II is that it will now include massive pressure on our social safety net and our educational system. The tea party solutions where you go to your local church for food and clothing and health care.

Flap Doodle 3 years, 10 months ago

The current resident of 1600 Penn. Ave is a combination of Bush Lite and Carter Lite.

pace 3 years, 10 months ago

Obama's bill on jobs looks 19 times better than the GOP plan of expanding tax cuts to the wealthiest. We need jobs.

HillaryForPresident 3 years, 10 months ago

In record-setting numbers, young adults struggling to find work are shunning long-distance moves to live with Mom and Dad, delaying marriage and buying fewer homes, often raising kids out of wedlock. They suffer from the highest unemployment since World War II and risk living in poverty more than others — nearly 1 in 5.

"We have a monster jobs problem, and young people are the biggest losers," said Andrew Sum, an economist and director of the Center for Labor Market Studies at Northeastern University. He noted that for recent college grads now getting by with waitressing, bartending and odd jobs, they will have to compete with new graduates for entry-level career positions when the job market eventually does improve.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44623502/ns/business-stocks_and_economy/t/great-recession-yields-lost-generation-workers/

Vote Hillary

jafs 3 years, 10 months ago

Do you really think that all of the ups and downs in the stock market are directly related to Obama?

Did you think the same when Bush or other presidents were president?

If a president to your liking is elected, will you think the same way?

jafs 3 years, 10 months ago

I notice you didn't answer my question.

jayhawxrok 3 years, 10 months ago

Republicans think Americans are stupid.

They think we can't do basic math. The tax cut Bush gave to the rich in war time was irresponsible and added $1.7 trillion to the deficit the right wing now whines incessantly about. It did not help create jobs, more private sector jobs were created under Obama in 2010 than in all eight years of Bush's presidency combined.

Moody's reported for every dollar of tax cuts to the rich we've received a lousy 32 cents in economic growth but for every dollar in payroll tax holiday Obama gave to the working middle class, we've received $1.24 in economic growth.

Ending Bush's temporary cut is not class warfare, it's the nature of a temporary thing to end, duh, and it's basic friggin math people. But the GOP would raither raise taxes on half the country, the middle and lower classes, to protect fewer than 1000 people who own most the wealth in this country. It's shameful.

First the GOP whined Obama had no plan, he presented one and then they whined it was just political theater. I swear if Obama walks out of the Whitehouse and says it's a beautiful day, 6 or 8 Reps elbow each other for a chance to get in front of the mic and say it's raining in Bangladesh and damn Obama for not recognizing that.

In the mean time what is the GOP plan? More of exactly what brought this economic crisis upon us, cut taxes for the rich, deregulate everything, make government smaller - except for the part they want to empower to control the private lives of the citizenry according to their own Talibanesque sensibilities.

I, for one, am sick of GOP hypocrisy. Bush didn't budget for either war, not once. Bush didn't budget for NCLB, just added it to the deficit. Bush didn't budget for his entitlement program during wartime, his Rx bill that was both a gift to Big Pharm AND a slap in the face of state rights as it specifically prohibiteed states from joining to bargain for better rates from Big Pharm or import alternatives. Bush's team lost billions of our cash in Iraq, but the GOP insinuated anyone questioning the spending was a G.D. Traitor. Bush and Paulson deregulated banking and brought us credit default swaps and speculators that bought oil off the market, not to use it, not to refine it, just to hold it and drive the price up to consumers at the pump, the GOP cheered. When the economy started to tank, Bush and his team lied and said everything was peachy, day in and day out right up until the point he had to bail out Wall st and did so with our cash again and no strings attached. CEOs got paid big bonuses for running their companies into the ground, 401K holders took it up the you know what and we had absolutely no recourse. $800 Billion in pork slid by because Bush had no ink in the veto pen and never once vetoed a spending bill.

Now all of that the GOP thinks America is dumb enough to blame on Obama. Shame on you, GOP, and shame on us if we let you liars have any further control of anything.

verity 3 years, 10 months ago

Neither of them are anything to write home about, both are too enslaved to money, but to say that they are not different is extremely naive and misleading.

John Hamm 3 years, 10 months ago

Brahahahahaha! Just another way to squander more tax money.

jayhawxrok 3 years, 10 months ago

ksrush, sorry facts just mess up your lying agenda, but too friggin bad for you. Look it up, I posted nothing but fact.

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