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Brownback’s CITO resigns amid controversy over degree on resume

Jim Mann, left, was Gov. Sam Brownback's choice to lead the administration's IT department until Mann resigned Tuesday afternoon after questions about his education background arose. He graduated from an unaccredited university, often referred to a diploma mill.

Jim Mann, left, was Gov. Sam Brownback's choice to lead the administration's IT department until Mann resigned Tuesday afternoon after questions about his education background arose. He graduated from an unaccredited university, often referred to a diploma mill.

November 8, 2011, 5:45 p.m. Updated November 8, 2011, 11:39 p.m.

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— Gov. Sam Brownback’s chief information technology officer resigned Tuesday after a controversy erupted over the degree he listed on his resume.

Jim Mann, 58, who had started his $150,000 job last week, said he had a business administration degree from the University of Devonshire, which has been cited in several reports as a diploma mill and not an actual school.

On Monday, Brownback held a news conference to introduce Mann, of St. Augustine, Fla., and to announce his hiring. Brownback said Mann was a crucial hire to improve the IT capabilities of the state.

But when news stories about Mann were filed online, reader commenters almost immediately started questioning the validity of his degree.

On Tuesday morning, Brownback defended Mann to reporters based on Mann’s private sector work, but conceded that his administration had not looked into Mann’s educational background.

“The education was not a factor in hiring,” Brownback had said.

He added that he didn’t believe Mann tried to mislead his administration when interviewing for the job.

Brownback said it was not unusual for information technology employees to lack degrees. He said when he was state agriculture secretary from 1986 to 1993, “My IT guy was a former meat cutter.”

But by late afternoon Tuesday, Mann submitted his resignation to Brownback and the governor accepted it, effective immediately.

Mann wrote a letter to Brownback that said, “The questions surrounding my qualifications to perform and deliver in this position have compromised confidence in me and in my integrity. As such, I am no longer an asset to your team and your IT mission.

“Please accept my sincerest apology, and I wish you and all Kansas nothing but the best as you strive to bring excellence to Kansas’ information technology systems.”

The governor’s office said it has reopened the search for the position.

Comments

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 5 months ago

Wow, Brownback is in backpedalling mode. Hope he doesn't stop there.

cowboy 3 years, 5 months ago

oooh raahh , this has been very entertaining

Next

Lana Christie-Hayes 3 years, 5 months ago

Hardy Har Har!!! Why am I not surprised?!...

Bob Forer 3 years, 5 months ago

Brownback walks away with a mere black eye. He's an arrogant guy, but I surmise he never vetted the guy before hiring him. Wondering whether Brownback asked for his resignation. I am a little disappointed that this is all over. would have been fun to watch it play out a little longer.

Jan Rolls 3 years, 5 months ago

Why don't you advertise the job sam. Bet you have some very qualified people with years of experience working in one of your agencies. I know of three.

Carol Bowen 3 years, 5 months ago

Aren't all state positions supposed to be advertised?

Fred Mertz 3 years, 5 months ago

Nope. Unclassified positions do not have to be advertised, don't have any minimum qualifications and you can hire whomever you want.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 5 months ago

"and you can hire whomever you want."

almost whomever

verity 3 years, 5 months ago

"Unclassified positions do not have to be advertised"

Don't know about at the state level, but at the university level, as far as I know, they do have to be advertised and have requirements which must be met.

I've wondered about all these positions Brownback is filling seemingly without any accountability and whether it is legal.

Fred Mertz 3 years, 5 months ago

Don't know about university, only the state.

tomatogrower 3 years, 5 months ago

"The questions surrounding my qualifications to perform and deliver in this position have compromised confidence in me and in my integrity. As such, I am no longer an asset to your team and your IT mission,"

What integrity? When you buy a fake degree, you have no integrity.

gracecountry62 3 years, 5 months ago

His life work is his degree, life experience degrees will always out do the very naive young graduates that has not tasted the rough road of life experiences. To me that is more than integrity.

chootspa 3 years, 5 months ago

That's fine, but when you lie on your resume and claim you also have a diploma degree, you've lost that integrity.

verity 3 years, 5 months ago

"To me that is more than integrity."

You're joking, right? I certainly hope so.

overthemoon 3 years, 5 months ago

I agree that a degree is not the most important resume bit. However, this guy doesn't really seem to have had the life work that would balance the formal study. His resume is pretty thin.

Fred Mertz 3 years, 5 months ago

Meat cutters from around Kansas are dusting off their resumes.

KansasPerson 3 years, 5 months ago

+1 and bonus points for making me snort.

bad_dog 3 years, 5 months ago

Is that something you get at the 19th hole?

Armored_One 3 years, 5 months ago

No...

Men at Work... Charlie Sheen and Emilio Estevez...

kansasplains 3 years, 5 months ago

I agree. The LJ World jumped on this degree right away and made a major impact in Jim Mann's resignation. The role of newspapers in towns is never better stated.

Start hiring Kansans for this job and other positions in this state! You could probably get two Kansans for the same price who would oversee the various operations of the IT department, and do a much better job.

And watch out for what he was saying. He was talking integrate, integrate, integrate. But when everything is integrated too much, one catastrophe happens and thousands of names are put out in the open with all their information, which never can be recovered safely.

I'm surprised I didn't hear him talk about "cloud" technology. Once the local systems have given up their servers and programs, and all the information is kept elsewhere, anything can happen. For individuals and governments, that is a very dangerous thing - not to speak of businesses.

Take a look at what just happened to Lawrence Memorial Hospital - all that information was released on the internet, and that was probably disk-based. What would have happened if Lawrence Memorial Hospital had had their information and servers elsewhere (say Kansas City or California, or off shore) along with all the other hospitals of Kansas? Insurance companies, employers, all would have had a ball and the technological loss of this would have been catastrophic.

And bear in mind - that's what Jim Mann was saying in order to save money. He doesn't really even have a background in IT.

Bob_Keeshan 3 years, 5 months ago

This had less to do with newspapers and more to do with regular Kansans pointing out that the emperor has no clothes.

Without regular Kansans jumping on the ridiculousness of this hire, the Brownback administration wouldn't have moved a muscle.

They don't about a couple of newspaper stories, but they do care about the hundreds of comments across numerous sites where regular Kansans were suggesting Brownback and his staff were clueless.

johnnyreb 3 years, 5 months ago

The LJ World comments sections is a representation of regular Kansans?? LOL Regular Kansans elected Brownback with 63% of the vote. Your views lost, and they will lose again in 3 years. Now get back down to the park and protest people who bathe and work for a living!

jafs 3 years, 5 months ago

With about a 50% turnout, of course.

I'd like to see closer to a 100% turnout next time, and see what happens.

Crazy_Larry 3 years, 5 months ago

LJWorld comments section generally represents educated, critical thinking Kansans. Uneducated, unthinking Kansans voted for Brownback...I know you don't like to, but think for yourself for once... Notice how screwed up the economy is (and the federal government out of control)? It didn't get that way overnight...it took a decade or two...a decade or two of BROWNBACK in office at the Federal level...And yahoo's like you thought it a good idea to put the goof in office as Governor! You probably voted to keep Roberts, et al. in office as well. These are the punks who've been in charge of crashing our country all along! But, Rush/Beck/Hannity says to Vote 'em in! Yee haw and yahoo! Idiots...

johnnyreb 3 years, 5 months ago

It's all Brownback's fault! Novel idea from a "educated, critical thinker". LOL

Crazy_Larry 3 years, 5 months ago

Aw, reb, I didn't mean to insinuate the entire economic collapse was caused by Brownblack...geez. But, one would have to think critically to understand that.

FlawontheKaw 3 years, 5 months ago

63% of what? Certainly not eligible voters. Regular Kansas voters are oxymorons and so are you.

FlawontheKaw 3 years, 5 months ago

What is next johnnyreb? Reconstruction? Oh boy! That went well the first time too.

Jack Ozegovic 3 years, 5 months ago

I'm not sure about the input of regular Kansans since they are the ones who elected this manage of Keystone Cops into office. I do wish to thank the Journal -World for their investigative reporting and helping in the exposure of a naked Emperor.

verity 3 years, 5 months ago

I'm pretty sure LMH has it's information backed up off-site---wouldn't be safe not to have several copies of everything in different places. That's common procedure.

kahsmom 3 years, 5 months ago

The problem that just happened at LMH was caused by a company that LMH outsources their online bill pay program to. The LMH IT department has nothing to do with their online bill pay program, it's handled by a company based out of Wichita.

verity 3 years, 5 months ago

I would guess that no one was ever interviewed. I think this guy was just chosen because the "qualifications" he has are what Brownback and the Kochs were looking for---adherence to a certain belief system.

Michael Throop 3 years, 5 months ago

um, Harvard isn't a state school..it's private.

pittstatebb 3 years, 5 months ago

Harvard is NOT a for profit school. Private does not equal for profit. Harvard does not make a profit on its tution and making money is not a goal of Harvard.

pittstatebb 3 years, 5 months ago

And they would be correct and still not a for profit school. There is an accepted definition of a for profit school and Harvard does not fit it. As far as I can tell from Harvard's website on undergraduates:

-only 40% of students pay full tution of $36305 -the average award for the other 60% was $40,000 -Harvard has 6700 undergrads

My math says they are making 82.4 million in tution and operating expenses were 3.76 BILLION. Harvard has been paying the bills recently by dipping into the endowment fund. At current tution, Harvard would need 104,000 undergraduate students to pay the bills.

Sources: http://www.harvard.edu/harvard-glance http://harvardmagazine.com/2011/01/no-surprises

chootspa 3 years, 5 months ago

Nobody trades shares of Harvard on Wall Street. Compare and contrast with the Apollo Group, which owns University of Phoenix and does trade on the stock exchange. Currently they're priced at $46.16. I think that's high, but that's also because I think for profits are going to lose a lot of money in the near future, as people realize that they're overpriced, underperforming degrees.

chootspa 3 years, 5 months ago

Um, Harvard wasn't in the comparison. It's neither state run nor for profit. They're defined as a private non-profit, as are Princeton and Yale.

ThePilgrim 3 years, 5 months ago

Damage control was in effect today at the State. My friend said that the "talking points" were that Mann didn't know that Devonshire was a degree mill until he tried to transfer the credits. And that it was so long ago (70's) that it really didn't matter in the hiring process. He was hired for his experience. I agree with Mann that his credibility was compromised. I am very surprised that he stepped down. Unfortunately, he probably will have difficulty finding another job. Unless he had an out in his contract.

Kendall Simmons 3 years, 5 months ago

But why would he try to transfer credits if he "graduated" from there???

esteshawk 3 years, 5 months ago

It wasn't that long ago. An earlier article mentioned this degree was conferred in the 90s.

verity 3 years, 5 months ago

"Mann didn't know that Devonshire was a degree mill until he tried to transfer the credits."

How could he not know if he hadn't taken any classes to get the degree? Or am I missing something here?

Sunny Parker 3 years, 5 months ago

I really doubt it will matter who Sam hires for the job. All of you sam haters will continue with your posts. Carry on...

woodscolt 3 years, 5 months ago

Sunny boy, people didn't just wake up one day and despise brownback. He has spent an adult life time earning it .

Shane Garrett 3 years, 5 months ago

+1 As he was Student Body President at K-State. So his political path started long ago. 1978-1979

Bob Forer 3 years, 5 months ago

Haters? Hardly. We are just forthright citizens who don't like to have fraud committed upon us. Would you hire someone who listed a fake degree on their resume? You are just another Sycophant for Sam. Heck, you'd probably find a way to excuse him if he raped a little girl. Grow a little backbone and principle, Sunny, and judge things on their merit instead of political belief. Hell, i am sure there are mass murders in prison who happen to be right wing republicans. Why don't you adopt one as a pen pal.

Bob Forer 3 years, 5 months ago

Haters? Hardly. We are just forthright citizens who don't like to have fraud committed upon us. Would you hire someone who listed a fake degree on their resume? You are just another Sycophant for Sam. Heck, you'd probably find a way to excuse him if he raped a little girl. Grow a little backbone and principle, Sunny, and judge things on their merit instead of political belief. Hell, i am sure there are mass murders in prison who happen to be right wing republicans. Why don't you adopt one as a pen pal.

ThePilgrim 3 years, 5 months ago

Is there any impeachment process in the State of Kansas? And how long will it take until Brownback gets run out of the state? Oh wait, he will surely get a big gubment post when the Repubs win in 2012.

cowboy 3 years, 5 months ago

That would make for a hilarious capital demonstration

verity 3 years, 5 months ago

Capital idea!

I'm an atheist, but I'll be there.

bevy 3 years, 5 months ago

Some of us have been praying since January. Maybe this is the first crack in the armor.

FlawontheKaw 3 years, 5 months ago

I thought that it may actually be the first armor in his crack.

Glenn Reed 3 years, 5 months ago

Feels like there's pieces missing to this little drama...

I can't imagine why a resignation letter from Mr. Mann was necessary. The governor's office should have fired the guy immediately once it became clear that the diploma listed on the resume was awarded from a fake college.

Can anyone explain to me how, exactly, Brownback won any political points by handling it this way, as opposed to just firing the guy?

pittstatebb 3 years, 5 months ago

Because the question we should be asking is how he found this guy? If this job was not posted, Mr. Mann was sought out by the administration. Otherwise how do you explain someone with no governmental experience looking for a job in a state hundreds of miles away when his resume stated that he was not wanting to relocate?

overthemoon 3 years, 5 months ago

Probably one of his Florida golfing buddies...and a member of The Family.

woodscolt 3 years, 5 months ago

"The governor's office should have fired the guy immediately once it became clear that the diploma listed on the resume was awarded from a fake college."

Exactly right, but Sammy came out and re-endorsed the guy instead. He's a flake.(both of them, actually)

FlawontheKaw 3 years, 5 months ago

Better get used to it. Brinestain's nefarious plans for privatizing all education will produce even more of these faux degrees from faux colleges.

Orwell 3 years, 5 months ago

The key lesson in all this is that Brownback's reaction was to rationalize and try to justify his own actions rather than acknowledge and correct a mistake. Forthrightness apparently isn't on his list of "family values."

esteshawk 3 years, 5 months ago

Republicans specialize in ignoring facts in exchange for opinions.

REdign 3 years, 5 months ago

"Can anyone explain to me how, exactly, Brownback won any political points by handling it this way, as opposed to just firing the guy?"

This is just the way it is done in higher management. It's done this way time and time again.

They act like they back the person they hire while pressuring him to resign on his own accord. For the better of the State...bleh..

Totally predictable.

The appointment secretary is one that should be in hot water with Brownback. Who is that and how much does he make?

It's pretty obvious that Brownbacks appointees do not trust any sitting IT managers. A pity, since they can probably help with IT consolidation and do it without making massive mistakes.

IT Consolidation is a great thing, Choose a qualified Kansan

Bob_Keeshan 3 years, 5 months ago

According to the Topeka paper, the appointments secretary is a female who prior to taking the job was a long-time conservative political activist. She apparently has little or no prior professional experience, but has volunteered on a number of campaigns.

thebigspoon 3 years, 5 months ago

Or massive investments in new employees.

sciencegeek 3 years, 5 months ago

He is SUPPOSED to answer to the public, but he has shown nothing but disdain for the public in Kansas. Remember the Arts Commission?
Then there's all the reorgs and workforce reductions he's done by executive order. And all those high-paid non-Kansans he's hired.

The scary thing is that he hasn't even been in office for a year yet. The damage that can be done in the next three will be beyond repair.

woodscolt 3 years, 5 months ago

by what, 30% of voting age people. That leaves a lot of people who didn't vote for him. just do the math.

jafs 3 years, 5 months ago

It makes a huge difference.

If somebody is elected by an actual majority of the eligible voters, then that election can honestly be said to represent the majority of voters in a state.

Otherwise, that cannot be said.

Regardless of political party affiliation.

woodscolt 3 years, 5 months ago

Typical right wing knee jerk reaction. I would be embarrassed to admit I voted for this guy. Thankfully, I was smart enough to know better. State senators and representatives are elected to represent their areas and governors are elected to represent the entire state. The chest beaters who voted for him are a minority in the state. Thus, clownback has no mandate to represent only them. Nor does he have any mandate to do whatever he damn well pleases in spite the consequences he imposes on the state of kansas. Time and time again he governs contrary to the state of kansas best interests and he finally got caught. We can only hope this is the the first of many to come.

Sammy's IT story is national news and yet another embarrassment to the state of kansas.

gccs14r 3 years, 5 months ago

Now if we could just get Brownback to resign....

pace 3 years, 5 months ago

I wonder if he got a formal parachute or if it was under the table?

Kookamooka 3 years, 5 months ago

Yeah. The state lost money on this one. I'm betting he had a severance deal and he took it...effective immediately. So long suckers!

jafs 3 years, 5 months ago

Except that he promised to "protect" education and social service funding.

Some folks might have believed that - I'm not one of them.

somedude20 3 years, 5 months ago

Bet the next dude hired will be that Dell dude or maybe the mac kid. Dude, you are getting a cell!

Fred Whitehead Jr. 3 years, 5 months ago

Yet another vivid demonstration of the incompetance and dysfunction of this "senator- turned-governer". He was elected by the sheep in Kansas who were flummoxed by the PDR of this moron. (Public Display of Religiosity). For those who think this theocrat is such a stunning "Christian" go read Matthew 6:6 for some information on what Jesus Christ had to say about those who engaged in splashing their religious fervor all over the street corners. Being governer involves a lot more than running to Texas to "pray' with the equally disgusting Governer Hair of Texas, another theocrat cut from the same cloth. Some common sense in veetting, hiring and concern for residents of his own home state are very much in order with this alleged public servant.

Don Whiteley 3 years, 5 months ago

I hate to disappoint liberals in a university town, but after working in IT for more than 40 years, the worth of any degree from any educational institution is about as meaningful as dog manure in an ice cream cone after someone has been working in this field 10 years or more. It's experience and knowledge, not societal certifications that are the best gauges for how well a candidate will perform. The first person I ever had to fire for incompetence had a Master's degree from a respected institution. Three of the most knowledgable IT professionals I've ever encountered had only high school diplomas and a wealth of knowledge and perseverance. Need more proof? Like at the resume of Steve Jobs.

Bob Forer 3 years, 5 months ago

So what. It doesn't change the fact that the guy perpetrated a fraud on the people of Kansas by listing a fake degree on his resume. And by the way, if its worth mere "dog manure," why did the guy put it on his resume. Or, perhaps you are a practitioner and advocate of the "dog manure resume."

3 years, 5 months ago

True, but I'm an IT professional with 30 years of experience -- I bow to your greatness -- and can tell you that the guy caving so easily means smoke, a lot of it. Where's there's smoke, there's fire, unless you believe everything Herman Cain says I guess. There's a better story behind this cave-in and it's all about cronyism. If the guy was worth his salt he'd stick to it and do the job. My guess is he really isn't qualified and knows it and doesn't want to sit in the hot seat. This is pay back to someone for some favor.

Don Whiteley 3 years, 5 months ago

Actually, you don't know any more about this guy than you likely know about IT. Lying on his resume would have been stating that he received a degree from a school that he did not. His resume clearly stated where he received his degree. Education professionals are quick to put a label of "diplomma mill" on any form of non-traditional education, and the article doesn't provide enough information us to make that judgement about his degree. More important is, did he have the experience he stated on this resume. His resignation was far more likely over the political nonsense associated with this appointment and his unwillingness to put up with this level of BS in his life.

jafs 3 years, 5 months ago

If he didn't want to deal with "political nonsense", then he probably shouldn't have sought and accepted a job working for the state of KS.

mom_of_three 3 years, 5 months ago

Its not that his education was non-traditional, it is the fact that the school does not exist and is an KNOWN diploma mill.

Funny, when you google it, you find many people who claim a degree from the university of devonshire so evidently, people are looking for a short cut.

beatrice 3 years, 5 months ago

DV, it appears you are missing the point. It isn't that a degree was needed, it was that he had a bogus degree on his resume. It would be like listing bogus military honors. They wouldn't help a person do the job, but they make the person appear like a well rounded candidate. If someone essentially lies about their qualification, where else will they lie? It is an indication of an individual willing to cut corners. It isn't about the degree, it is about the lying about that degree.

pace 3 years, 5 months ago

I bet Steve Job's resume wasn't padded with a diploma mill degree. Oh I think he stood on his own. That is the problem. Many agree with you that a good techy might not need a degree, also in my opinion many good techies have degrees. This guy did not have a sound body of work behind him, nor a good degree.
My daughter is a great information technologist, when she was getting her masters, she was ahead of many classes she took. But she didn't claim skills or training she didn't have nor use a bogus degree to gloss over lack of skill.

hedshrinker 3 years, 5 months ago

So this guy Mann is fr St Augustine Fl; isn't Fl where the disastrous, arrogant new head of SRS was recruited from? Why does the Gov have to go to Fl to find staff who frequently turn out to be highly UNqualified, but get paid big 6 figure salaries...think it has to do with his religion litmus test, maybe.

tomatogrower 3 years, 5 months ago

And apparently in his religion, lying is acceptable.

Spangler 3 years, 5 months ago

It's not only acceptable,........it's required.

ssteve1 3 years, 5 months ago

O.M.G !!!!! How could Brownback be so stupid??? He should have gone straight to the lawrence college (note lowercase) and hired a degreed individual from the school of slavic dance. Or maybe the "honk for hemp" guy. Really, Sam. Check out lawrence. It's just full of characters!!!

Bob Forer 3 years, 5 months ago

Stevie boy, you are right on one thing. Lawrence is one of the most highly educated cities in the country. Around 40 percent of the adult population has a college degree. You are obviously not one of them.

Peacemaker452 3 years, 5 months ago

Too bad that Lawrence does not recognize that educated is not the same as intelligent. From the posts I see here I would guess that in Lawrence, educated equals arrogant.

Peacemaker452 3 years, 5 months ago

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Peacemaker452 3 years, 5 months ago

Not even remotely angry, just having fun with someone who can’t handle the truth. Once again, you have shown your arrogance by having a post deleted that didn’t do anything except show your inability to have a real debate about anything. If modifying a user name is such a serious violation thousands of posts should be deleted every day and certain users banned for life. Not sure who Arminius is but you can keep trying. You are obviously a retread since you have only been on since Sept. but seem to know a lot about old users. In fact you said: 1. Fretster (anonymous) replies… If you trying to out a former poster, you're incorrect as well as reported for violating the terms of service. October 17, 2011 at 6:20 p.m. So thanks for being a hypocrite as well as a troll.

Peacemaker452 3 years, 5 months ago

Once again, trying to order people around without any moral authority to do so. You must really like the power trip you get from having posts deleted and telling people what to do. I see that you did not deny being a hypocrite. Are you going to answer that? You seem to love demanding that others answer your questions, so answer the charge if you dare. Funny how you accuse me of lying but cannot show any specific case of it. Feel free to continue marking my posts for removal and then put in a reply. It just makes it obvious that you can’t discuss a subject. I must be far easier for you to reply to a blank space and claim moral superiority. And no, I am not done, I have only just begun.

Peacemaker452 3 years, 5 months ago

3 posts removed in 13 months is a lot? 2 of those were in this thread that you marked because you didn't actually have any logic or facts to share. What does that say for your 2 posts removed in 2 months?

Peacemaker452 3 years, 5 months ago

So, saying that you are smarter than me isn’t a personal attack? Calling someone stupid and a third grader isn’t a personal attack? You have not pointed out anything involving logic or facts, you have stated your opinions and marked posts for deletion that are not any more a violation of the TOS than you routinely perform. Are you going to answer the questions I posted above about your deleted posts or your apparently hypocritical behavior or are you just going to keep flinging unsupported accusations at me?

Peacemaker452 3 years, 5 months ago

“I didn't call you stupid, or a third grader, I stated that was how you were acting.” And you think that is fundamentally different?

“I didn't even attack you at all” You need to learn how threaded posts work. When you reply to someone with "And that matters in this issue how? It doesn't.” you are certainly attacking their position or statement. If you were not replying to me, admit your mistake and move on.

“You should, however, seek treatment for your rage issues. You have a problem.” I will have to guess that you have never seen rage. I have calmly replied to your attacks and your only answer is to let fly with unfounded accusations and denials. If there has been any “screaming, crying angry”, it has been from you.

You have no position to stand on so you continue to use accusations in place of facts. Look up the term “polemic”, you will find an apt description of your debate style. You should seek help for that issue.

Peacemaker452 3 years, 5 months ago

First of all, you can stuff your “son” BS, you are acting like the child, not me. Once again, the only “attack” I have made on you is to call you a hypocrite and a liar, both of which I have supported with your own comments. I don’t need to twist what you have said, I believe it is twisted enough already.

Are you ever going to explain your apparent hypocrisy?

If you really think you have won anything you must be a product of the modern “participation is winning” school of thought. You might want to watch your language, you are really sounding all “screaming, crying angry”.

Peacemaker452 3 years, 5 months ago

"I have never, ever run across a more dishonest person in my life."

Care to explain your earlier hypocrisy? Or are you just going to remain dishonest?

Peacemaker452 3 years, 5 months ago

Care to explain your earlier hypocrisy? Or are you just going to remain dishonest?

tomatogrower 3 years, 5 months ago

So ssteve1, it's ok to buy a degree you didn't earn? It's ok to put the fake degree on your resume? It's ok to lie. I hope you aren't someone I do business with. I would be keeping a close eye on you.

And in Lawrence, as well as many of the other towns in Kansas, there are people who could do this job quite well, some with degrees, some without. Many who would more than welcome $100,000, instead of $150,000 to do the job. Why does Brownback go out of state? It's not right.

pace 3 years, 5 months ago

If Brownback is right, that his choice was right. There is only one way to prove it. Brownback must resign to show his support.

booklover2 3 years, 5 months ago

This is the best thing that has happened since Brownback took office.

Bob Forer 3 years, 5 months ago

Don't ask consumer such tough questions. he can't answer that one, and I can assure you, he won't try to answer it, because it will make him look even more foolish.

Bob Forer 3 years, 5 months ago

See, I was right. You didn't answer the question. It's beyond your limited capacity. Invariably, when confronted with an issue you have no answer to, a right winger like you regresses back to third grade and whines, "you hate America." WTF is that supposed to mean? Simply because you heard Rush or Bilbo say it, doesn't mean it clever, or even logical.

Game,. set,. match.

See ya in hell.

Keith 3 years, 5 months ago

Dontcha just love the dinosaurs flailing about in the tar pits?

Bob Forer 3 years, 5 months ago

Yes it is. The right tends to be more often incompetent and dishonest than the left. Also more hypocritical.

lgreen17 3 years, 5 months ago

This is about creditably, not the degree. If someone pays for a college degree so they can put it on their resume, that speaks to their character. As a career IT-person (until recently) I can say that most people in IT don't need degrees, you either get it or you don't. You don't have to FAKE one to get a job, unless you think you are the smartest guy in the room, and people won't figure out you are a flake. He resigned because people in Kansas are smarter than he thought, and he wouldn't have been an effective leader given his poor judgement.

blindrabbit 3 years, 5 months ago

Makes one wonder, what is Smilin Sam's connection to Florida! First he hires his chief SRS Siedlecki and now this! Sam must have invested on some land deal down there and has some chips he needs to settle.

yourworstnightmare 3 years, 5 months ago

His interest in Florida is to become connected to the GOP establishment in that state, so that they can help him when he runs for president, just as they helped GWB.

somedude20 3 years, 5 months ago

Mr. Mann looks like a cheshire cat in the photo that the LJW is using. Really, that picture bothers me because he looks like the face of this republican eviliness that has been infecting America and some of its weaker minded people for the last few years!

Be afraid, be very afraid!

kansanjayhawk 3 years, 5 months ago

Every administration has it's moments of embarrassment, this is one for Mr. Brownback, however, the piling on by the left is just another example of how they have only one agenda and that is to bring a good man down. Mr. Brownback has brought our state government finances into balance, he has redirected Kansas toward being a competitive place to bring business, by fighting to change our tax system. He has stood up for the weakest among us and he has brought good positive values into the governors mansion. What a great change from the extreme liberal agenda of the past!

tomatogrower 3 years, 5 months ago

" He has stood up for the weakest among us and he has brought good positive values into the governors mansion."

Oh those poor, weak rich people. I mean he took the money to help people make their homes more energy efficient and gave all that money to those poor oil people to make biofuel. And don't we all know who is behind a lot of biofuel in Kansas? You got it! The weak Koch family. And he made sure that Kansas won't have a health insurance exchange, so that the poor weak insurance companies will have to compete for business. I mean how will they make big profits if they have to compete.

Do you even read the papers kansanjayhawk?

JayhawkFan1985 3 years, 5 months ago

State law requires every governor to submit a balanced budget so what do you mean he balanced the state's books? Brownback proposed closing SRS offices and KNI, how does that help the weakest? He is proposing to make state taxes more regressive...same question. He cut funding for education at all levels...same question.

JayhawkFan1985 3 years, 5 months ago

I also like how you characterize our last governor as an extreme liberal. Mitt Romney is more liberal than her and he is seeking the GOP ticket for president and the only candidate likely to survive the party's vetting process. I suppose you think Romney is spooky belonging to a "cult" and all...

pace 3 years, 5 months ago

I am not sure but it looks like the only way we can recall Brownback is if he is convicted or proven guilty of a crime, a felony?

tomatogrower 3 years, 5 months ago

Dear Governor Brownback, A real leader might have made a mistake hiring someone who lied on their resume, but a real leader would have stepped up, admitted the mistake, then fired the liar. They wouldn't have tried to rationalize their choice, then behind the scenes, "encourage" the guy to resign. No gut, no glory, guv.

Fred Whitehead Jr. 3 years, 5 months ago

This is so, so funny. Brownbackwards has stubbed his political toe a number of times and plods onward with this insane hiring and now retirement. I wonder what future occurances are left for the long suffering people (at least those who are not brain dead) of the State of Kansas?

Frederic Gutknecht IV 3 years, 5 months ago

PEOPLE... Who hired this guy? This was an important position which the governor should/would have had a huge say in who was hired. Yes? No? The guy really had no solid credentials. Someone had to suggest him. Someone had to ignore warning signs before accepting him as a candidate. Someone had to pull strings to pull him through the process. Someone messed up. It doesn't matter who that someone was, or someones were, this fail falls squarely in the lap of the square (our governor). Take an axe to this governance! It flat out stinks of burned coal, feedlots and bought souls.

Peacemaker452 3 years, 5 months ago

I love how you copied the “I don’t care one iota” from my posts that you had deleted. You can’t even come up with your own emotions, can you troll?

Peacemaker452 3 years, 5 months ago

Wow, you must really take this a little too seriously if you think someone is going to blow their top. I’m guessing that you would prefer that to having a serious discussion of facts with anyone. Stay in denial, it seems to be your natural state.

Eileen Jones 3 years, 5 months ago

There was no excuse for that guy to be making $50,000 more than his predecessor - even if he had been qualified, which he was not.

Meanwhile state employees including KU employees have had their wages frozen for several years, and there's no hope that annual raises are ever coming back.

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