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Planned Parenthood criticizes Kansas budget provision

May 13, 2011


— Buried in the $13.8 billion state budget approved by the Legislature early Friday is a provision that Planned Parenthood says essentially ends federal family planning funding to its Kansas clinics.

“Thousands of Kansans are now at risk of losing access to basic, preventative health care,” said Peter Brownlie, president and chief executive officer of Planned Parenthood of Kansas and Mid-Missouri.

But Gov. Sam Brownback, a Republican, hailed the measure. Speaking to the House GOP caucus on Thursday before a vote on the budget, Brownback said Kansas would become only the second state in the nation to “zero out funding of Planned Parenthood.” The caucus erupted in cheers and the overall budget was passed later with only Republican support.

The dispute is over federal funds that are passed through by states to Planned Parenthood clinics. Abortion opponents have worked against this funding at the federal level and in some states because some Planned Parenthood clinics perform abortions.

Planned Parenthood argues that under the law, the federal funds cannot used to pay for abortions. But its critics say that any public money that goes to Planned Parenthood indirectly supports abortion services.

The budget approved by the Kansas Legislature includes a provision that puts Planned Parenthood at the bottom of an eligibility list for the federal funds.

The funds go toward getting low-income women health care, such as birth control, cancer screenings, pap tests, annual exams, and sexually transmitted testing and treatment.

In Kansas, Planned Parenthood says it provides more than 3,000 pap tests and breast exams, 9,000 birth control visits, and 18,000 sexually transmitted disease tests. Planned Parenthood currently receives about $334,000 in funding under the program.

Planned Parenthood's health centers in Wichita and Hays, which receive the funding, do not provide abortion services. They serve nearly 9,000 women per year, and the Hays clinic is one of the only clinics in that area that offers family planning services to low-income women, according to the organization.

Brownlie said Planned Parenthood is considering whether to file a lawsuit to prevent the budget provision from taking effect. Last month, the Indiana Legislature passed a law to withhold funding to Planned Parenthood and the issue is now being litigated. However, a federal judge has refused to temporarily block the law while the reproductive health organization fights it.


William Weissbeck 4 years, 6 months ago

I hope the GOP is happy with their $334,000 moral victory. By the way, does the University health clinic (we called it the "quack shack") still provide birth control services? When is Brownback coming for that? Now that I live in Indiana, I wouldn't suggest holding it up as a model for Kansas to copy. Any day now, the Ohio River will jump its banks and change course to run much farther north, and put Indiana in the south where it so rightly belongs. The governor Mitch balances the budget on the backs of the adult disabled by closing the state facilities (think KNI) and sending them to community care (for which there is none), so that their parents have to bear the burden. Oh, and he refuses to raise taxes, but instead has a $1 billion dollar rainy day fund, that he refused to tap during the recession. The unemployed have to sign an oath that they don't use illegal drugs in order to collect their unemployment. And just yesterday, the Indiana Supreme Court ruled that the police don't have to knock before they execute a warrant, and that the citizens do not have the right to resist the police's "unlawful" entry into their homes. Be careful who you want to copy.

Crazy_Larry 4 years, 6 months ago

How many tax dollars are being wasted by Sham and the Rethugs on a new state logo? Yeah, that's right, WASTED on an unneeded NEW state logo? I'm guessing the cost could have funded the arts commission AND planned parenthood.

Alceste 4 years, 6 months ago

....and always be sure to lock your door from the inside....a lesson well taught 40+ years back.....

Mary Alexander 4 years, 6 months ago

WOW!!!! This is so sad when will the GOP learn this is not going to fly will in the next election. Where will these women and men go for thier health checks?

Crazy_Larry 4 years, 6 months ago

Sham's house for health checks; they'll read the bible and Sham will lay hands on them and he'll tell them what GOD told him to tell them. It's the NEW WORLD ORDER health clinic!

gkerr 4 years, 6 months ago

Black7maker, They can go to their doctor, the neighborhood clinic, the hospital clinic, just about anyplace but the local abortion mill. Read the unvarnished uncensored life of Margaret Sanger find out for yourself what a bigot, racist, and eugenics cheerleader she was. She loved German social engineering concepts in the Weimar. Not hyperbole, not alarmist hype, just dare to study the well of seething prejudice against blacks, Jews, the disabled that she identified with.

Modern apologists have cleaned up her history portraying her as a secular saint. A person named black7maker might have to make white only sevens if the Parenthood's policies are not challenged a bit more by society.

Blacks made up nearly 20 % of population at time of declaration of Independence, 20% again when Lincoln was assassinated, 20% at beginning of twentieth century, nearly 20% when civil rights legislation signed, nearly 20% when Roe v Wade became law of land. The population of black Americans has been fairly constant throughout American history until Roe and massive subsidies by government to Planned Parenthood who pioneered abortion and urban clinics for same in America. Most recent figures show rapid decline in % of live born black children, massive increase in black abortions with huge bias toward black abortions in urban areas, decline in black population % to 12 or less and falling rapidly. For example some 60% of abortions in New York are performed on blacks whilst they make up less than 40% of the population. Planned Parenthood is not responsible for all of the black abortions but given that they love to set up in black neighborhoods, their founder loathed negroes and other racial degenerates, they must be held substantially responsible for inflicting a huge and devastating population injury on the black children of America. Gkerr

james bush 4 years, 6 months ago

You liberals got your sex in the entertaiment venues from Hollywood to MTV and in the education curriculum in the schools: so now teach kids they can't undo pregnancy without the personal emotional and physical and financial pain.

mom_of_three 4 years, 6 months ago

talk about misguided... planned parenthood helps thousands of women with lowcost medical care (see above).
This is just going to make it much more expensive in the long run.

gkerr 4 years, 6 months ago

You who should know better- Mom of three,

Yes helps thousands by taking their money for bum advice. Come into our parlor, this won't hurt a bit, we can take that baby she doesn't really fit.

Their bum and twisted advice, don't take responsible care of your baby growing there, it's just tissue formless tissue. Think nothing of it honey it will be over in a jiffy then you can carry on. Just sign this form and this one and don't feel bad everybody's doing it.

In the meantime the defenseless and most innocent among us are killed, half are women in the making, mothers are encouraged to betray their race, their dignity, their conscience their emotional health, their physical health, their own child and flesh and blood. No no no more of this treachery paid for by people who hate verily hate what is being done to decency and justice in the name of false experience.

kansanjayhawk 4 years, 6 months ago

I think you need to do a little more research about Planned Parenthood and their agenda...

notanota 4 years, 6 months ago

Reading articles for comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it?

james bush 4 years, 6 months ago

I am just angry that you folks think government should solve stupidity and bad judgment with everybody else's money.

ebyrdstarr 4 years, 6 months ago

How exactly is needing a pap smear exhibiting stupidity or bad judgment?

gkerr 4 years, 6 months ago

Ebyrdstarr, It doesn't. However there are many many ways to get pap smears without going to planned parenthood clinic. Simply go to your doctor, or the public health clinic, or the neighborhood community clinic, or your hospital walk in clinic or the gyn clinic at KU med center. Planned Parenthood hides it's aspirations to eliminate certain population types ala their founder Margaret Sanger who was a Fan of German Eugenics policies prior to WW 2 and was a bigot who wanted to eliminate inferior Individuals from the racial lines. It is not by accident that Planned Parenthood gained billions in subsidies over the decades by offering cheap but effective termination of pregnancy or abortion or fetal removal from Unwanted pregnancies- especially focused in many cities on neighborhoods of blacks and Latinos. The demographic carnage among blacks in America is a matter of statistical fact not conjecture, not spun rhetoric but fact. Fifty million human beings, babies in their mothers wombs have had their lives snuffed by these fools who promote and operate these "women's clinics" purported to do such great things for the poor.

Wake up folks these clinics are a cash cow for social experimenters who relish taking lives in order to prove some sense of freedom from responsibility, duty or conventional religious mores that they find inconvenient to their will to do whatever they want to do. In the process they destroy the cherished commitment of one generation to the next, a mother to her children, our race to the notion of justice for all and protection for the weak, the underdog, the innocent, the child, the family, the nobility of motherhood and the honor and integrity of her role as Mother.

Millions are glad that this ruse, this scam, this travesty is being rooted out from dependence on the public purse to destroy more young lives as if 50 million since 1973 are not enough. Yes they are enough. Gkerr

notanota 4 years, 6 months ago

Yes, non-hpv related cervical cancer is clearly caused by a lapse in judgement.

ebyrdstarr 4 years, 6 months ago

I guess the bad judgment is not having insurance and/or not having the money to pay for medical costs out of pocket. Which is probably the case because the uninsured and poor are obviously all stupid. So clearly, we as a nation are better off just letting those people die off.

TimW 4 years, 6 months ago

Why is it assumed that PP only (or largely) caters to the poor/uninsured?

I know she hasn't used it in KS, but before we moved here PP was a godsend to my wife. Even while living in a highly urban area, our city, like many places in the US just didn't have the the supply to meet the demand. Wife wants a pap-smear? Come see us in three months. Develop a UTI on the first of the month? Yeah, if you're willing to take the day off from work looks like we can squeeze you in on the 23rd.

PP provides an essential service, 99.999% of which has nothing to do with abortion. A large part of what they do even has little to do with sex/pregnancy, but a whole hell of a lot to do with women's (and men's) health.

Close down PP and don't come up with something to replace it and you're doing significant damage to the health of the nation.

ebyrdstarr 4 years, 6 months ago

I didn't mean to suggest that I assume PP serves poor/uninsured, but rather that others (namely conservatives) assume that. I do, though, think that de-funding PP will likely disproportionately affect the poor and uninsured, simply because those on the margins of our health care system are always the first affected by any limitation in services.

The bottom line is that de-funding PP will do tremendous harm and all because ideologues are incensed that as a tiny fraction of its services, PP has the nerve to provide a legal medical procedure. It's absolutely infuriating.

gkerr 4 years, 6 months ago

TimW, I truly think your premise is buncombe. I live in a small Kansas town, some 7000 souls. We have no, nada, planned parenthood clinics. We have a hospital walk in gym clinic open to all women. A public health clinic again walk in open to all men and women. A hospital walk in clinic. A quick care private pay but accepts medicare and Medicaid pay walk in clinic, and some dozen doctors with practices that include ob and gun services. No wait to get in except for the OB of more than a day or two and He sees all bonafide OB emergencies as they arise.

Planned Parenthood does tons of abortions for which they are paid handsomely. You don't need planned parenthood for good health care. If you are a baby in utero you don't want your mom to go within 29 miles of planned parenthood. Twenty Five million baby girls have been killed egregiously, almost casually since 1973. A like number of boys as well. And how many heartsick and depressed mothers who on second thought but oh too late are sad, disappointed, perplexed, even depressed about their lost babies and their lost innocence? Gkerr

CloveK 4 years, 6 months ago

Wow jimincountry. Just wow. You have more stupidity (I assume bad judgement as well) than 99% of the people that use planned parenthood. I suppose you hate art and music for children as well? Its thinking like that, that is ruining this state. At least Brownback's plans for education won't be lost on you.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years, 6 months ago

"I am just angry that you folks think government should solve stupidity and bad judgment with everybody else's money."

No, you'd much rather that government amplify stupidity and bad judgement, as they did with this provision.

coloradoan 4 years, 6 months ago

The irony, if not outright tragedy, is that your preferred approach as now enacted into law, will lead to MORE unwanted pregnancies, because there will not be adequate sex education resources. An additional irony is that the very people who most strongly criticize teen pregnancies for the lack of responsibilty have now removed a resource these same teens could use to avoid pregnancy BEFORE, rather than after.

RibMan 4 years, 6 months ago

Then why 50 years ago were their fewer pregnancies? Planned Parenthood has been busted all over the country for advocating abortions for under age teens and rape victims. Maybe they should reform and then re-apply to the State. It's like ACORN. Some of these organizations get so far away from their original charter, they become something difficult to support with tax dollars. I think this is a wake up call to all groups who want tax dollars to do a better job in governing themselves. We've run out of money and those less well run organizations will suffer. If the cause is good, Kansans will support it. But, if their money is wasted, we have no choice but to move them off the list. The people who point this out aren't the problem. PP needs to re-invent itself.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years, 6 months ago

"It's like ACORN."

Yes, it is like ACORN. Irresponsible "journalists" and "news" organizations (i.e. Fox News) turned it into a bogeyman by fabricating a long list of transgressions, and repeated them ad nauseam. And even after it's been proven that they have been pathologically lying, sheeple like you continue to believe and repeat the crap they threw against the wall, even though it didn't stick.

The hysteria against PP is precisely the same. But you don't care about facts or good government, you hate "librals," and you'll lash out against anything you perceive of as "libral."

It's disgraceful.

gkerr 4 years, 6 months ago


Two ironies huh. Don't worry about ironies. Worry about sex education classes that have increased sexual practice among the young, fed abortion clinics with paying clients and government pays, fueled the porn industry and the STD trade, and haven't done anything good for responsible sexual practice except essentially make it extinct. now that's irony. Gkerr

true_patriot 4 years, 6 months ago

By definition your support of this stealth move means you are pro-abortion and against the culture of life, since the effect of it is to increase abortion and diminish quality of life across the family scale.

Kyle Chandler 4 years, 6 months ago

another moron to ignore...go back to the dark ages.

kansanjayhawk 4 years, 6 months ago

be careful when all you can resort to is name calling...

somedude20 4 years, 6 months ago

If Brownie were a woman and not just a pussycat you had better beileve that things would be different. This "savings" is so small that it won't even be noticed but will end up costing many more times than $334,000 (when more people get std's, pregnant and cancer) the healthcare costs will skyrocket all for this chump change. This is all about his religious veiws not about real policy. I think I would rather have Ozzy Osbourne as governor If there is a "God" Brownie you can rest assured that he/she is not happy with you!!!!!!

mom_of_three 4 years, 6 months ago

and yes, this is about religious views, not what is best for the citizens of the state.

gkerr 4 years, 6 months ago

What are the religious views of those who destroy innocent human life in the womb? What insane secular sentiment is being served? The pro-abortion whining hoard has deeply felt religious principles in jeopardy to exhibit such contortions of reason in attempting to explain away the depraved act of killing by scraping or scalding with infused caustic saline a million innocent babies each year. It's clear that the real religious fanatics are the abortionists and their apologists and acolytes of the feminist and radical materialist priesthood, the same priesthood that cheered as the retarded and maimed, the deviant and Jewish, the gypsy and Christian clergy were delivered in smoke from the concentrations camps of Germany before and during ww2. One witness, a nurse in a Hamburg santorium testifies at Nuremburg that the Doctors perfecting the lethal gassings and cremations cheered and toasted with their able nursing and orderly assistants the gas clouds emitted from the chimneys that carried away the volatilized remains of the murdered men women and children. She said they cheered and joked about admitting the patients at 9am and clanking their beer glasses while saluting their discharge out the chimney by 4pm.
What does this have to do with the funding of planned parenthood? Everything. Everything! Gkerr

kansanjayhawk 4 years, 6 months ago

I think you are showing your anti-life "religious" views...

missmagoo 4 years, 6 months ago

What a sad day for women everywhere.

Welfare "indirectly" supports drugs....

handley 4 years, 6 months ago

poor and disabled people will just go away if you don't help them.

Bob_Keeshan 4 years, 6 months ago

This will create jobs.

The #1 priority of Il Marrone is to create jobs, which of course is why the one thing Il Marrone touted in this budget is cutting funding for Planned Parenthood.

Kyle Chandler 4 years, 6 months ago

i cant wait to count all those jobs. NOT

evilpenguin 4 years, 6 months ago

Sam Brownback, you are a pathetic excuse for a human being

kansanjayhawk 4 years, 6 months ago

I disagree Sam Brownback is an outstanding governor and doing a fine job reflecting the values of Kansans...

notanota 4 years, 6 months ago

Don't worry. If you're rich, you won't die of cervical cancer because you couldn't afford a pap smear. Therefore, this is a problem that doesn't exist in Brownie's privileged little world.

Steve Jacob 4 years, 6 months ago

Planned Parenthood does too much good to be treated like this. As for the Indiana laws, I hope all the moderate voters remember this if Gov. Daniels is the Republican nominee in 2012.

gkerr 4 years, 6 months ago


God bless planned parenthood for it kills them with kindness.


MyName 4 years, 6 months ago

Think of how much better this discussion would be if your mother had access to good reproductive care at the time. Planned Parenthood isn't just good for Kansas or America, it's also good for the Internet.

kansanjayhawk 4 years, 6 months ago

Yes good reproductive health care with good family values as opposed to the "free sex'" and anti-family values that our secular society is espousing of late...

BigPrune 4 years, 6 months ago

Isn't the birth control pill and abortion reliably documented as being among the causes of breast cancer and other forms of cancer in women?

jafs 4 years, 6 months ago

Actually, using the pill in certain populations (over 35 and/or smokers) does in fact increase the risk of breast cancer, as far as I know.

verity 4 years, 6 months ago

And what are the health risks of pregnancy? Especially for teenagers?

jafs 4 years, 6 months ago

I'm sure there are those.

I was just responding to MN's flat denial of cancer risks associated with birth control pills.

blogme 4 years, 6 months ago

And what are the health risks of keeping your legs crossed? We go about "sex education" like there's no choice ( we GOT to teach them because they are going to do it anyway ), but outside of rape, there is always a choice plain and simple. I'm sick of the libs trying to say sex is just going to happen and there is nothing you can do about it. Maybe the libs should stop having children and filling their heads with no expectations.

The sad truth is the ignorance brandished by this idea and just being accepted by the enlightened. Out of wedlock teen pregnancies might as well be an express ticket to generational poverty. And the libs only fix is to rip out whatever started growing inside and kill it? Instead of teaching your kid to have sex because they are going to do it anyway, maybe you should instill self esteem in them so that when this question comes up, they'll understand the consequences and make a good decision, instead of kicking the can down the road with the ultimate common denominator of abortion.

Sheesh, we do need to go back 50 years when smarter people prevailed and recognized that pro choice meant having a choice about having sex, not what to do after the fact.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years, 6 months ago

If "abstinence" were truly as simple as you try to make it, there wouldn't be 7 billion of us on this planet-- probably 3 times the number it can sustainably support.

"we do need to go back 50 years"

There were abortions 50 years ago, too. The main difference then was that if a girl's/woman's family was wealthy enough, they could find access to safe abortion. If not, they got one that could very easily kill or seriously injure them, and too often did.

So it would appear that you believe the following things-- population isn't rising nearly fast enough, safe abortion should be reserved for the wealthy, and if poor women get them, they should risk great suffering and death for the sin of not being wealthy.

mloburgio 4 years, 6 months ago

"That's why people need to continue to go to the town halls, continue to melt the phone lines of their liberal members of Congress, and let them know, under no certain circumstances will I give the government control over my body and my health care decisions." —Rep. Michele Bachmann (R) it's been said before if you want a republican to care about you, remain a fetus.

james bush 4 years, 6 months ago

I've provoked some here but I just think it's time that liberals quit thinking goverment is the answer and start making people understand the consequences of their actions..

CloveK 4 years, 6 months ago

People aren't looking to the government for an answer here. The purpose of the government is looking after the people it governs. There is a reason we all pay taxes, because government is supposed to be looking after the welfare of it's citizens.

You really don't understand how this works do you?

"The consequences of their actions..."

Are you F** kidding me?? What is the consequence of inaction? When people don't look after their health, take the preventive and early detection options made available to them via Planned Parenthood? I am not talking about abortions here either, so try to keep up jimin. Its about the 99% of other services that they offer for women's and men's health. PP is (maybe was now) doing a good thing for society and not asking for whole lot.

Its people like you that get this idiot elected in the first place. So damn ignorant.

I shouldn't have wasted my time in telling you any of this. You clearly don't get it and probably never will.

gkerr 4 years, 6 months ago

CloveK, Guvment looking out for my welfare, eh. Thats why Founders established complex but ingenious checks and balances, and gave government limited powers with a bill of rights protecting citizens from ambitious government power and tyranny. They knew that government tends to over promise, over control, over tax, over spend. Government is a necessary evil for a free people but must be kept in check. We are fools to rely much on government to look out for our welfare. We should look to ourselves, our families, our community institutions to look out for our welfare. Government should help establish a rule of law protecting us and our property from excess power-whether government power or corporate power or thug power and foreign power.
At least half of Americans are against abortion on demand and many are opposed to all or any other than for life saving need. The law of the land had been till Roe that the states decided what the specific rules and regulations were regarding abortion. Roe took that legislative decision away from the states and gave it to the choice of the mother and essentially treated the child in the womb as a blob of protoplasm a valueless tissue. This change was abrupt and ill thought out, and has been fought for decades. 6o million children were killed to date and population groups have been decimated by selective abortion hitting blacks and browns more than whites. To elect to stop funding a private group with history of running lucrative abortion clinics, and supplying reproductive and health services (which are available by other means, everywhere) is not a mistake by government but is long overdue. I don't want to support Planned Parenthood in any way shape or form. Hundreds of millions don"t either. If you want to support them fine give em some of your money. Let Soros, the elites of society, all good liberals everywhere send them hundreds of millions. No more hundreds of millions from the collective purse of the people most of whom don't like them in the first place. Gkerr

Carol Braden 4 years, 6 months ago

"Make people understand the consequences of their actions..."

Hmmm...I think you would be describing the definition of laws and enforcement of such laws.

Now, wouldn't that be government who does that? So, isn't it government that enforces laws and enacts consequences? Or maybe that's "goverment".?

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years, 6 months ago

Spoken like a true ideologue, jimincountry. Too bad that ideology is based on a disdain for facts and a complete lack of compassion, but long on pettiness and Schadenfreude.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years, 6 months ago

Are you going to post something like this in in reply to my every post now?

BigPrune 4 years, 6 months ago

Just before and during WWII, the German population thought it was okay to demonize and slaughter millions of Jews. The Nazis considered Jews as non-persons.

Just as in the past, the citizens of the United States thought it was okay to own slaves. Blacks were considered non-humans.

During the Roman times, children were considered non-humans.

Just as today, an unborn human being is considered non-human. Out of sight, out of mind, of course it is okay for a mother to kill her own unborn child - to think otherwise would make you a hater of women.

See any correlation?

No? I didn't think so.

notanota 4 years, 6 months ago

This is about funding the 97% of women's health services PP provides that aren't abortion. Or are you arguing that women are non-humans?

rtwngr 4 years, 6 months ago

That is a misleading statistic. Just because it passes out 97 condoms for every 3 abortions it performs does not make their services only 3% abortion. Abortion accounts for 36.7% of the PP income. This statistic was derived from the 2008 Planned Parenthood annual report.

notanota 4 years, 6 months ago

Gosh, how could I be so misleading? The true statistic is 100%. 100% of the services that would have been publicly funded are not abortions.

Kyle Chandler 4 years, 6 months ago

Oh they are coming. just you wait. All you have to do is attend your local Mega Church and pray that Sammy destroys all them there Socialists, and then you get their jobs. Oh wait, he done 'laminated them.

Kyle Chandler 4 years, 6 months ago

Nice try BigDoof, but once again, you fail

tunahelper 4 years, 6 months ago

Yeah GOP and Governor Brownback! if you whiny leftists do not like it, MOVE AWAY! we dont want or need you here in Kansas. planned parenthood can go get money from george soros or oprah, they have plenty. This is a great day for Kansas!

Kyle Chandler 4 years, 6 months ago

tuna helper should be aborted from this thread

Kyle Chandler 4 years, 6 months ago

So lawrenceguy40 and davidsmom 'officially' support Dennis Rader who was a Church going Republican who killed living persons. Makes sense, and yes Thank you for identifying yourself as the slime you are. please abort.

evilpenguin 4 years, 6 months ago

I don't really see why my tax dollars should be funding the Christian agenda. Maybe we should put all our money in a pot and take what we need. Oh wait...sorry....that's Communism and we don't want that now do we?!

gkerr 4 years, 6 months ago


What twisted logic conflates not funding the secularist materialist agenda by supporting from the public purse a private entity that performs abortion on demand and makes income off of abortion and somehow by not spending this tax money we are somehow spending it on Christian projects? Where is the logic?
Do you think before you write? Gkerr

imagainstit 4 years, 6 months ago

Hey, I hear the "christians" are getting raptured in little over a week... problem, solved. No more American Taliban to terrorize those left behind. Don't let the door hit you in the rear when you exit. And enjoy the seventy two Virgin Marys.

Corey Williams 4 years, 6 months ago

Stop it. Just stop it. It always gets my hopes up to think about it, even though I know it will never happen. We will never be rid of those who think they can govern better through jesus until the next religion comes along.

verity 4 years, 6 months ago

"Jesus wept."

I think he must be weeping now.

lindseybraden 4 years, 6 months ago

Come on people think about it PP is not just a place where you go have an abortion because you didn't use any protection. It does way more than that. They provide counseling, birth control, preventative measures for women. Think about this in the long run, and I understand it might be hard for some of you out there...but take on long hard look at this... if we cut funding to this what will happen to the women who use this as a resource to get birth control, or other things besides abortions...i see those teen pregnancy rates going up, and up and up oh where does that leave us more teen moms who need other state assistants... oh but wait they are cutting funding to those programs as well.. how about all you congress men and women take a pay cut.. why should you be making so much money if your just gonna drive our state in to the ground...Sam Brownback is a sorry excuse for a Governor, who can't make cuts where they really need to be...HIS GOD DAMN POCKET!!!!!

grammaddy 4 years, 6 months ago

The Governorship is just a stepping stone to his Presidential bid in 2016. He doesn't have the cajones to run against an incumbent.

blogme 4 years, 6 months ago

I agree, teen pregnancies will go up in the short term because they are already patterned to behavior of having a safety net ( abortion ) to get rid of their non-thinking mistake. But when you finally take the free money from the idiots, and charge them with their own destiny, they will have to wise up and start making better decisions. They will come to realize that if you can't afford health care, maybe they shouldn't have a family at this point in their life, make some informed decisions and move up the social ladder, where they will look back and ask "What in the heck was I thinking supporting liberal ideas", as they only make my self ruin easier?". Eventually the people will learn that there are truly bad things that come from bad decisions. A lesson we have lost with all of our enlightened liberal thinking.

I love how libs are all about Darwinism being taught, which I am too. The sad fact is that they seem to think that they can have Darwinism and no bad outcomes to survival of the fittest:

"In the struggle for survival, the fittest win out at the expense of their rivals because they succeed in adapting themselves best to their environment."

Notice he says nothing about Planned Parenthood, the institution supporting both Darwinism and the least fit.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years, 6 months ago

"But when you finally take the free money from the idiots, and charge them with their own destiny, they will have to wise up and start making better decisions."

One of those idiots could easily be your daughter. And what she may be making is not better decisions, but babies she can't afford to raise.

25% of US children live in poverty. When Republicans start showing concern for those kids, then I'll believe that their opposition to abortion has any sort of moral basis to it.

Kyle Chandler 4 years, 6 months ago

Teen pregnancies will go up short term huh? You are quite interesting, liberal thinking in Kansas? Thats the real disease, I hate the disabled and old people too. Lets hang out sometime, under whatever rock you live under. abort

emceelean 4 years, 6 months ago

That is a gross and inaccurate interpretation of "survival of the fittest." Natural selection means that those who reproduce the most and whose offspring have the most offspring, will have their genetic traits preserved. Fittest = biggest breeder.

jhawkinsf 4 years, 6 months ago

Planned Parenthood and it's supporters keep telling us that abortions are a small part of what they do. They keep emphasizing that providing health care services to women (and some to men) is the bulk of what they really do. They've even gone so far as to say that most abortions that are done in the U.S. are done outside of Planned Parenthood. I accept these claims as fact. What I don't understand is why, in the face of all these cuts, doesn't Planned Parenthood just come out and say they will no longer perform abortions? All the other services could still be funded. Abortions would be more difficult to get, certainly. But why sacrifice all the other good that they do just for that one service?

jafs 4 years, 6 months ago

Perhaps they don't feel that they should have to stop providing a perfectly legal service to those that need it, just because there's political pressure from right-wing Christians to do so.

And, I'll bet that even if they did, Brownback and many like him would still de-fund them.

rtwngr 4 years, 6 months ago

The only way that you can justify abortion is to believe that a child in the womb is not human. If you do believe this, you completely deny all the medical evidence to the contrary. There was a time when slavery was legal and slaves were considered less than human. The courts even held that as law. We all see how misguided that was, don't we? This isn't about Jesus. This is about the slaughter, on demand, of human beings.

jafs 4 years, 6 months ago

I agree that there's a moral issue here, once a fetus passes the point of viability outside the womb.

jhawkinsf 4 years, 6 months ago

So, we're left with a zero sum game. Either this or that with no compromise. I guess. The problem I have is that in this discussion, I'm 51% pro-choice. I believe in a women's right to abortions but I believe there should be reasonable restrictions. With both sides playing the zero sum game, with whom do I side, and more importantly, who do I vote for next election? I suspect there are many voters like me, stuck in the middle with nowhere to go come election time. So on this issue, I'll sit this one out. But I really do wish there was a slate of candidates that represented a middle ground on this topic.

jafs 4 years, 6 months ago

I agree - both sides are unconvincing to me.

"It's my body" is too simplistic, as is "it's murder".

But, perhaps more of the pro-choice folks believe in reasonable restrictions than you think, although what's reasonable...

madameX 4 years, 6 months ago

I think far more candidates than you're aware of represent a middle ground on this topic. I mean, can you think of anyone who is in favor of getting rid of the reasonable restrictions already in place? A real zero-sum game would be where one side says "Abortions for no one! Ever! For any reason!" and the other side says "Abortions for anyone who asks for one! At any time and for any reason! No questions asked!" The former sounds to me a lot like the overall pro-life platform, but I honestly don't get the latter from the overall pro-choice platform. Most of the bickering is over passing what I consider to be very unreasonable restrictions, either with straight-up bans or sneaky-like, such as the restriction on health insurance policies. And this most recent development shows that one side is willing to sacrifice basic services, that many people depend on and have nothing to do with abortion, just to stick it to the other side.

jhawkinsf 4 years, 6 months ago

I'm sorry to say this, but both of those extreme statements you said sound very much like what I hear from the spokespeople for both sides. From my vantage point, I see very little movement towards compromise from either side.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years, 6 months ago

As madameX has already described, abortions laws have been in a "compromise" position for a long time.

But the rabid anti-abortionists don't want reasonable restrictions on abortion-- they want a total ban. (and I think they're quite happy when women die while committing the sin of an illegal abortion.)

Scott Morgan 4 years, 6 months ago

I lean right when it comes to government spending, but bad move. I have to agree with many of you on this one.

true_patriot 4 years, 6 months ago

Brilliant. This will increase abortions, suffering and misery for women. The Christian Taliban strikes in Kansas. Another example of big government gone awry.

rbwaa 4 years, 6 months ago

this is embarrassing for the state of kansas...

mloburgio 4 years, 6 months ago

77% of the leadership of prolife groups are men, 100% of them will never get pregnant. leave women alone and let them make their own personal decisions.

Romans832 4 years, 6 months ago

mloburgio says: "77% of the leadership of prolife groups are men, 100% of them will never get pregnant."

“Thousands of Kansans are now at risk of losing access to basic, preventative health care,” said Peter Brownlie, president and chief executive officer of Planned Parenthood of Kansas and Mid-Missouri.

I'm assuming Peter Brownlie is a "he." Aren't there any women qualified to assume the position of president/CEO of Planned Parenthood? Why should Mr. Brownlie have any right to speak for women, not being one himself?

jafs 4 years, 6 months ago

Ok - can I have $100 of my taxes back that go to things I disagree with?

Crazy_Larry 4 years, 6 months ago

I'll gladly give $1000 to any organization or program who sponsors are RECALL VOTE for Sham and the rest of these clowns.

Hey, have you seen our new state logo yet? I hear it's awesome.

Scott Tichenor 4 years, 6 months ago

Governor Brokeback - slowly going one by one through small agencies that employ people providing legitimate services the rest of the planet thinks necessary and turning the employed into the unemployed.

How are those federal tax breaks for the oil companies doing for ya'all at the gas pump?

Crazy_Larry 4 years, 6 months ago

Hey! All you FREAKS who support the Sham like the mindless xombies you are! Did you ever stop and think, Sham Brownstreak was in the Federal Gov't for a long, long time....during that time, he helped guide our country to where it is today! BANKRUPT AND HATED AROUND THE WORLD!

To all the Western KS idiots who helped put this animal in the govna's office, I'd like to show you a couple of fingers (can you guess which ones?) and ask that you kindly engage your brain the next time you vote.

Getaroom 4 years, 6 months ago

jimincountry: by "government" do you mean the one that is run by corrupt companies who get to fund elections as individuals( i.e., Koch bros)? I think you do, and not the one that is supposed to be by,for and of the people. And so I guess you are living in the top 2% of the economic elite in this country. This entire issue is driven by sheeples following the supposed uninterpreted law of the Bible and some "idealistic" code of living life. Of course, there is no such thing as an uninterpreted Bible. Just imagine China run by fundamentalist Christians railing against abortion. Can you even begin to imagine the swollen population of that country alone had no abortions been allowed. Not to say that the old world thinking of producing only male babies was a such a great plan to follow. So out there in your little slice of heaven "in country" what is it that you see as an idealistic no abortion healthcare system? Only the rich get cared for? Exactly how do the rich get rich and the the rich get richer? Do you think all that money just came out of the sky? NO, it was made of the backs of the working class, of whom many of are out of work, lost their homes, or even a place to live and do not have enough food. Did MTV tell you they are all dead beats too?

If the state of the USA economy is to come back into stability do you really think it is going to happen with no new taxes and YES more taxes for the super wealthy!! That includes BIG OIL! Do you really think jerking funding out from under Planned Parenthood is going to make life better and heal the debt? You need to get a bigger understanding of life "country"!

Abortions are not something anyone I know likes. Taking care of the health of hundreds of millions of people in this country should be a priority at all levels. Places like Health Care Access and Planned Parenthood are integral to that on a local level. A sick , poorly cared for peoples and hungry nation is a weak nation.

I guess, jimincountry, you have plenty of food, money and great health insurance and good health so need to worry - right? Keep watching your MTV and being misguided right long with your FOX NEWS. There is not one person who does not know things need to get better. Be part of the solution not part of the problem. Being a Brownback supporter is not going to solve the true issues in this state. We are going "brownbackwards"!

verity 4 years, 6 months ago

I don't think that Brownback is doing what he is doing because of religious convictions. He might think he is, but I have doubts about that also.

This is strictly a power grab, pure and simple.

He may not be smart enough to recognize the consequences of his actions, but frankly I think that he doesn't care, or perhaps desires those consequences. When the 98% are struggling just to survive, we won't have the time or energy to fight back.

This is strictly a power grab, pure and simple.

This may be counter-intuitive to many, but money entering and moving through the economy multiplies. Much of the "cost-cutting" Brownback and the legislature are doing will have a negative effect on the economy.

I wish more people would study economics.

verity 4 years, 6 months ago

I didn't see Getaroom's post before I posted.

I agree.

Jimo 4 years, 6 months ago

"But its critics say that any public money that goes to Planned Parenthood indirectly supports abortion services."

A. This is the leftist critique of public funding for private religious schools: such funding indirectly supports religious practice, in direct contravention of the constitution. Hypocrites that they are, expect these same loons to invert the argument when pushing taxpayer dollars to Jesus Saves Academy and the Holy St. Lucre Day School.

B. This statement is objectively false. Funding A does not fund B. It has been a persistent lie whose unspoken premise is that God forgives willful sin done in service of (what supporters believe) a greater good. No such claim exists in Christian theology.

C. The goal here is less anti-abortion than it is the comprehensive control of the sexual and reproductive choices of women (or at least poor ones), hence the insufficiency of segregating funding for abortion from all other funding. Brownback seems less a Christian than a radical religious zealot who could have taught Bin Laden a few things. (Don't you just want to pee when you imagine the chance to peek at Brownback's porn stash?)

Crazy_Larry 4 years, 6 months ago

The narcissistic or psychopathic leader is the culmination and reification of his period, culture, and civilization. He is likely to rise to prominence in narcissistic societies. The leader's mental health pathologies resonate with the anomies of his society and culture ("psychopathological resonance".) The leader and the led form a self-enhancing and self-reinforcing feedback loop, a dyad of mirrored adoration and reflected love. By elevating and idealizing their "fuehrer", the mob actually elevates and idealizes itself; in his ascendance they find hope, in his manifest illness -- curative solace and a legitimation of their own collective insanity.

Crazy_Larry 4 years, 6 months ago

From the book "Malignant Self-love: Narcissism Revisited" by Sam Vaknin

Kyle Chandler 4 years, 6 months ago

Crazy Larry, Your words and sentence structures are too 'complex' for the dumpublicans in this thread.

Oh and pretty much everyone opposed to this has never had to experience the help the PP provides.

Joe Hyde 4 years, 6 months ago

By voting to "zero out" funding for our state's Planned Parenthood clinics (which will likely force their closings) our Republican legislators and Governor Brownback have behaved as if ignorance were a virtue. What a bunch of smug fanatics.

verity 4 years, 6 months ago

Of course ignorance is a virtue. We can all be equal on the lowest rung of the ladder. Well, some will still be more equal than others.

Jeff Barclay 4 years, 6 months ago

“Thousands of Kansans are now at risk of losing access to basic, preventative health care,” said Peter Brownlie, president and chief executive officer of Planned Parenthood of Kansas and Mid-Missouri.

And thousand of babies will now live.

madameX 4 years, 6 months ago

I guess you didn't read the bit of the article that explains that the clinics losing funding don't perform abortions.

WhiteDog 4 years, 6 months ago

And how many of those thousands will be less than adequately cared for by parents who didn't want them?

Kyle Chandler 4 years, 6 months ago

I'll send you my baby bills Barclay, you seem like you can afford it. Oh and i'll send you my wifes chemo bills too, since she couldn't afford a pap smear and got cancer. Oh now my daughter is pregnant because she didn't have access to 'shame-free' condoms. I'll send you that bill too. Thanks Barclay YOU RULE

nouseforaname 4 years, 6 months ago

I'm more concerned with the quality of life after that baby is born than their right to life. Right to life is meaningless if that life is going to fundamentally poor. I would much rather spare a child from an awful existence than force it to live in that awful existence. Of course, the ultimate goal would be to mitigate the awfulness of existence which would foster more life, but we're clearly not interested in doing that.

Fred Whitehead Jr. 4 years, 6 months ago

Brownback is a religious terrorist, not too different from the jihad Muslims we are seeing trying to blow up the United States. His "Christian" values tell him to take all possible actions to destroy the "infidel" medical proceedures that are legal, safe and used to be available. The "great unwashed" brought this pox upon us, and we will be paying for it for a long time to come. This is what you get when you embrace the tea bag Palinist Republican Terrorist Party. You proud of yourselves? I really bet you are!

Kyle Chandler 4 years, 6 months ago

Heres a list of what every Brownback supporter deserves.

A. To lose his/her job due to those great cuts.

B. To be denied unemployment because they are 'lazy'.

C. To be denied healthcare, especially if their daughter/wife/mother gets pregnant and needs an abortion or gets cancer due to lack of inexpensive 'socialist' pap smears.

But even after all that, theyd would still support him im sure. Because anyone that supports this....isn't human as compassion and common sense are human emotions.

Follow the leader to your closest Mega Church

Mixolydian 4 years, 6 months ago

This article is unclear. It reads like Kansas gets X amount of dollars from the feds every year to distribute for low-income women health care, such as birth control, cancer screenings, pap tests, annual exams, and sexually transmitted testing and treatment.

If that's the case, all this action means is that while PP won't get the funds, other health care clinics in Kansas providing these services will.

I'm fine with that.

Mixolydian 4 years, 6 months ago

It's still unclear to me. That doesn't mean that the feds gave $$ to Kansas to specifically give to PP. If that's the case, is this Kansas refusing the funds? Misappropriating the funds?

As I said, this article raises unanswered questions.

Mixolydian 4 years, 6 months ago

Oh, "one of the only" does not equal "the only"

Just saying.

gkerr 4 years, 6 months ago


You make me dizzy. The Hays clinic is One of the only clinics .......

That means it is not THE only just one of the only. Got it. Don't please don't be hysterical fools and think you are fooling anybody who doesn't want to be fooled. Hays is safe condoms can be had aplenty. Close down the perfidious Margaret Sanger abortion planned parenthood. You left wingers are such religious zealot freaks. Please get a life instead of taking them from others. Gkerr

letsgiterdone 4 years, 6 months ago

I am all for cutting planned parenthood. Need health care? It's out there.

Cogito_Ergo_Es 4 years, 6 months ago

This is not about $334,000. This is about wielding his power to the benefit of his religious beliefs. Ever heard of 'Separation of Church and State', Brownback?

nouseforaname 4 years, 6 months ago

To the people that say, "Need health care - use something else other than Planned Parenthood" well, okay - let's say that there are other places where rural women, men, and families can go to receive reproductive care. The fact of the matter is this: If the government sees fit to block Title X funding to one specific organization on the basis that that organization could, but currently does not, provide abortion services or any other service that a select group of people find morally repulsive, then that sets precedent that this funding is malleable and eventually could be phased out all together depending on the zeitgeist of the time. As a woman who relied heavily on Title X funding throughout college for reproductive care and birth control, this precedent is frightening. Being able to have affordable access to birth control meant that my husband and I could have a normal sexual relationship like we are entitled to have without worrying about getting pregnant. For five years, the only time I saw a doctor was my yearly pap smear needed to get The Pill. Sam Brownback and company are essentially telling me that their moral outrage is more important than ensuring that my husband and I were able to finish college quickly and establish ourselves before starting a family, more important than ensuring that my friend had medical access that caught her early stages of cervical cancer, more important than ensuring that families have the power to decide when they want to start a family which has been shown time and time again is the number one factor to the success and happiness of that family. We are letting a procedure that is statistically minor to dictate what is statistically major and that is why I am outraged and sickened by this.

And to gkerr and others that keep going on about Margaret Sanger and eugenics - read a friggin' history book about reproductive policy in the US. Eugenics was a part of the zeitgeist in the US up until the end of World War II. Politicians, doctors, and several other public policy makers thought that eugenics was a good idea and a solution to stop the proliferation of "undesirables" in society and it was seen as both progressive and scientific. For about 30 years compulsory sterilization was legal in many states and thousands upon thousands of people were sterilized against their own will because they were poor, black, mentally deficient, had too many kids, etc. Anti-miscegenation laws were rationalized through eugenics. Most of the anti-immigration laws passed in 1910-1929 were based off of eugenic principles. So stop framing Margaret Sanger as an outsider for her time - she wasn't at all. In fact, eugenics would still probably play a huge part of US public policy had it not been the fact that the Nazis rationalized genocide with eugenics. Up until that, the majority of Americans thought eugenics made sense and I think they still think that way, but refuse to state it so bluntly.

verity 4 years, 6 months ago

I would add that Margaret Sanger's beliefs are irrelevant to Planned Parenthood today. That is just a red herring for people who have no other argument.

gkerr 4 years, 6 months ago

rockchalk1977, I would bet that the same folks who are for restrictions on circumcision to protect baby boys from a painful procedure no matter how religious or even health serving the procedure might be are the ones who would be for abortion on demand no matter how irreligious or painful even lethal it might be. Parental choice is respected in the one case even though death ensues for the baby, and parental choice is neglected in the other even though the procedure is a bit painful may have religious, health and hygiene benefits. One law requires the state to prohibit citizens from performing a procedure deemed barbaric although nonlethal by some and requires the state to fund a procedure deemed barbaric and cruel as well as always lethal by most of the population. Seems crazy. Gkerr

gkerr 4 years, 6 months ago


My Lord woman why was Planned Parenthood responsible for your happy and free sex life? Were you compelled to use Planned Parenthood clinic rather than community health clinic, school clinic, private doctor, local GP, walk in clinic. You make it sound that the only way your were able to enjoy an orgasm was through the kind and caring services of planned parenthood.

And thank you for pointing out the poisonous zeitgeist of the late 19th and early 20th century that established the premise that some humans were unwanted thus disposable, killable, worthy of infanticide, or homicide, or genocide. Yes the ancient evils recur down through the centuries and exist even now. We fought a great war over the evil that chose to kill those whom they thought unworthy of life because they were Jews, Poles, Gypsy's, red haired, lope eared, even bed wetters were killed in the early gas chambers in the university hospitals of early 1940's Germany before the new techniques of mass killing were turned upon the Jews.

No Planned Parenthood on the Public purse. You like em. You support em. Gkerr

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