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Lawrence Education Association asks district for additional benefits

May 5, 2011

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Negotiators for the Lawrence Education Association requesting some additional benefits Wednesday for the Lawrence school district’s licensed educators during the coming year.

The union, which represents more than 900 educators, formally asked that the district:

• Waive standard fees for enrollment, textbook rentals, extracurricular activities and related supplemental charges for students whose parents are licensed educators.

• Permit the president of the union to work full time on union business, at district expense. Currently, the district pays the full salary of the union president, who continues to work part time as an educator.

• Provide each licensed educator with a printed copy of the Master Agreement, once approved by the union and district administration.

The next negotiating session is set for 5 p.m. May 18 at district headquarters, 110 McDonald Drive.

Comments

Iam Tired 3 years, 7 months ago

The union seems to live in a different dimension from the district and the teachers. Has anyone informed the union president that the district is closing schools and ending programs just to meet current expenses?

KSManimal 3 years, 7 months ago

Your distinction between "the union" and "the teachers" betrays your ignorance of the entire issue. Who, exactly, do you think "the union" is?

Scott Morgan 3 years, 7 months ago

Douglas County Commission approves domestic partner benefits plan

Interesting benefit change for county workers, but teachers yes teachers get the shaft again.

LogicMan 3 years, 7 months ago

Let's not only hope for but work toward a brighter economic future. Start new businesses, invent, make, and sell things that people need or want, grow food locally, etc. Then hopefully housing prices will start rising again, and tax collections will go back up including for K-12.

Until then, the only new thing they are likely to get are terminated programs, shut buildings, and pink slips, unless they agree to a slight pay or benefits cut.

been_there 3 years, 7 months ago

Yesterday was early dismissal day. Twenty minutes after school let out I watched as a small group of teachers left the school and walked to a nearby eating establishment. Even if they were going to discuss school business as they ate, I'm sure time was wasted.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 7 months ago

Did you follow them into the restaurant and monitor their activity? If not, then you aren't certain of anything. You're merely making assumptions based on your ideologically based prejudices.

poorteacher 3 years, 7 months ago

You know it is teacher appreciation week, even though you do not appreciate teachers some people do. Maybe they were given the opportunity to go out to eat, just as most business people get to do EVERYDAY!!! Teachers get 25 minutes to walk their kids to lunch, eat and go to the bathroom and pick the kids up from lunch (elementary). So excuse them for getting an opportunity to enjoy a special time. IF you are so concerned about teachers skipping school report them to the district. Don't gripe about them here!! SO if they worked through lunch and then were allowed to get a bite out then so be it! GET A LIFE AND COMPLAIN ABOUT SOMEONE ELSE!!! What were you out doing at that time? Do you not work? Or do you get to go out for lunch? Or were you skipping out of your work time? IF you are a lucky one who does not have to work then you just need to go home and mind your own business!!

been_there 3 years, 7 months ago

Maybe I was there because, oh wait, it was "early dismissal day". Collaboration time was given for teachers to collaborate not "enjoy a special time". Now you're telling me where and who I can and cannot "gripe" about? "What were you out doing at that time?" Oh please, that's just a pathetic attempt at justifying their actions. Maybe I couldn't be at work because "it was early dismissal". "Mind your own business", another pathetic attempt. So misuse of collaboration time is nobody's business? Evidently by your comment history you seem to think anyone who criticizes teachers doesn't work.

been_there 3 years, 7 months ago

Does your user name mean you are a teacher? What are you doing on the computer commenting on blogs at 9:58 a.m? Don't you work?

poorteacher 3 years, 7 months ago

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been_there 3 years, 7 months ago

How about just answering the question? I think we should be a little concerned about you teaching children.

kugrad 3 years, 7 months ago

maybe they skipped lunch to work with some kids and now went to eat? Maybe the OP didn't see any such thing since almost no schools in Lawrence are in short walking distance to a restaurant . Maybe the teachers were subs.

Salvia 3 years, 7 months ago

Even teachers are allowed to eat lunch.

been_there 3 years, 7 months ago

You're kidding, right? They had lunch earlier, this was work time.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 7 months ago

Maybe they all worked during their lunch periods knowing that they would eat at their meeting at the restaurant.

Take_a_letter_Maria 3 years, 7 months ago

Having a sister who is the Local EA President in another district in Kansas, and knowing that she is a full time educator who receives a stipend from the local union dues for doing union business, I am appalled to find out that Lawrence EA President is paid as a full time educator by US for doing a half time job AND wants full time pay for not doing any district work. Let the union pay for this person's labor that benefits them.

braverthanu 3 years, 7 months ago

What type of person waits 20 minutes after the closing of a building to monitor what employees do when they leave the building. You are a math book = full of problems.

been_there 3 years, 7 months ago

Yes, I went there just to monitor what the teachers do, get over yourself. By the way, math books have solutions in them too.

KSManimal 3 years, 7 months ago

Yeah, just look how well market forces in the food industry turned us into the most well-nourished, physically-fit nation on Earth!

Your name also suggests you enjoyed a government-subsidized college education. Is that true? I assume you enjoy socialized plumbing (a.k.a. "flush toilets"), and socialized transportation (a.k.a. public roads & highways), and socialized defense (a.k.a. the United States Military).

Ralph Reed 3 years, 7 months ago

@TALM: From the article: "Permit the president of the union to work full time on union business, at district expense. Currently, the district pays the full salary of the union president, who continues to work part time as an educator."

Release time depends on the local district contract which, as you know, varies from district to district. I can understand your sister's contractual arrangement if her school district is much smaller than USD 497. If her district is comparable or larger, then perhaps she should work to get her district's contract rewritten. Given the size of USD 497, I completely understand the LEA President's position.


Your comment: "Let the union pay for this person's labor that benefits them."

It appears that you don't understand what your sister or the LEA president work for. They don't do work that benefits the union, they do work that in large part benefits the teachers in the school district, union members or not.

Take_a_letter_Maria 3 years, 7 months ago

RR - the districts are of similar size as far as the number of people my sister represents v the number represented by the LEA - within 100 people.

I fully understand that their work benefit all teachers in their respective districts. Do you understand that in both districts more teachers belong to the EA is than do not (of course in her district it is closer to 90%)? That is the reason EA members in her district pay to the EA each month to cover her extra time doing EA business instead of expecting the taxpayers to pay for her to handle EA issues.

The next time you wish to talk down to someone make sure you know what the hell you're talking about first.

Alceste 3 years, 7 months ago

• Waive standard fees for enrollment, textbook rentals, extracurricular activities and related supplemental charges for students whose parents are licensed educators.

Heck, why don't they bargain to be exempt from paying real estate property taxes on their primary dwelling while they're at it?

We don't and didn't have children. Why are we supposed to pay the education bill for those people that do?

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 7 months ago

It's pretty simple-- we've decided as a society that teachers will get paid considerably less than any other comparably educated professionals, and it looks like they'll get even less now that the Koch brothers have decided it's necessary to finance their tax breaks.

So teachers are negotiating for a few low-cost breaks in their out-of-pocket expenses.

BTW, exempting teachers from property tax might make sense as we continue to slash their pay and benefits.

llama726 3 years, 7 months ago

You are assuming teachers work 34 weeks per year, compared to 50+ per year. A sixteen week gap. Assuming they are done on or around May 20, and report on or around August 1, that's ten weeks off. Not sixteen. Where are you getting the other six? Winter and spring break, I suppose? I think you're overstating, and underestimating vacation times. If teaching is such a cushy gig, why do most of the people in college not consider doing it? How many other professions require more certification and training constantly? How many professions do you have to take work home (grading, lesson planning, etc) and get only 20 minutes for lunch?

Why would we pay a 16 year old babysitter more than a professional teacher? If you break it down, a teacher pulling even $75,000 in a year, assuming they just kept an eye on each of their 20 kids, is worth it. That's less than four dollars an hour per kid. 34 weeks x 20 kids x 35 hours a week x 4 bucks an hour = $95,200. Dunno what kids are hauling in to babysit anymore, but maybe teachers should just open day cares, since they're so spoiled from their exorbitant wages.

KSManimal 3 years, 7 months ago

"We don't and didn't have children. Why are we supposed to pay the education bill for those people that do?"

Why? Because YOU got YOURS for one. More importantly, because everything you do as a part of civilized society requires OTHER people to be educated. Think of all the goods, services, infrastructure, inventions, ...the list goes on....EVERYTHING you take for granted but nonetheless enjoy requires OTHER people to be educated to make it happen for you.

Don't want to help pay for it? Fine. Remove yourself from civilization.

Alceste 3 years, 7 months ago

KSManimal: The game has changed. Given this reality, so too should the taxing the structure in this state which fuels and funds public education.

You are correct with respect to ME getting MINE in the way of a quality Public Education. However, that was well over 50 years back and the times have changed, along with the rule book, or lack thereof. While fixed income OLD people sit with a stagnant EARNED income (social security and personal savings), other's income climbs and climbs and climbs. Mill levy goes up to make up for reduced housing "valuations" which are established by mumbo jumbo hayseeds in some fancy office.

Nope, the game's changed and so should those paying for it. Teachers make GOOD MONEY when compared to other "helping professionals". It is NOT my job to pay for their large house; their increasing utility bills; their gasoline expenses yada, yada, yada. When I see the "teachers" struggling to make certain my FIXED income increases to keep up with the actual and real costs of goods and services, perhaps then I shall change my tune. Until then: You procreate: YOU PAY THE BILL, not me, please. Let them that procreate duke it out with the County and the teachers. I'm tired.

volunteer 3 years, 7 months ago

At one time a former KNEA advisor fella was on the school board, and I imagine some of the better perks for Lawrence teachers were derived at that time; but good thing, b/c as has been pointed out, the new guv and lieutenant guv are no fans of public schoolteachers.

LogicMan 3 years, 7 months ago

"we've decided as a society that teachers will get paid considerably less than any other comparably educated professionals"

We haven't, supply and demand has.

llama726 3 years, 7 months ago

Yeah? Four + years of advanced education as an investment, so it's simple supply and demand, and not the employers deciding not to give pay raises anymore? Just simple economics - the immutable laws of economics, as undeniable as gravity, right? I wish life were as simple as you people keep trying to say. It isn't, though.

melp 3 years, 7 months ago

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