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Letters to the Editor

Honest belief

March 11, 2011

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To the editor:

“Honest, respectable belief starts with evidence and moves gradually to conviction, regardless of preference and ‘feeling.’ Irrationality begins with emotional intuition, cherry-picking evidence to suit.” (“Pitts’ hypocrisy,” Public Forum, March 4).

“Perhaps no one has yet been truthful enough about what ‘truthfulness’ is.” (Nietzsche)

“The existentialist … thinks it very distressing that God does not exist, because all possibility of finding values … disappears along with Him.” (Sartre)

“In some remote corner of the sprawling universe … there was once a star on which some clever animals invented knowledge. It was the most arrogant, mendacious minute in ‘world history,’ but it was only a minute. After nature caught its breath a little, the star froze, and the clever animals had to die. — One could invent a fable like this and still not have illustrated sufficiently how miserable, how shadowy and fleeting, how aimless and arbitrary the human intellect appears in nature.” (Nietzsche)

Apart from God there is no knowledge, hope, meaning, and morality. We exist, period. If you don’t believe in God, then be honest with where that leaves you. The atheist has no way to obtain knowledge and so all s/he claims to know is cherry-picking of unknowable evidence.

But if there is a God then it is quite rational to have knowledge and morality. Mr. Burkhead declared that God exists and gives His standards. Regardless of how others have cherry-picked their beliefs by their own preferences, God exists and judges. People can suppress that knowledge, but the only honest, respectable belief in this world is belief in God.

Comments

Rich Noever 3 years, 1 month ago

You can't afford that additional 8%!

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weeslicket 3 years, 1 month ago

thank you for all the commentary.

posit. if one assumes there an "invisible hand" (deism), then one usually arrives at the conclusion that: "Apart from God there is no knowledge, hope, meaning, and morality.... But if there is a God then it is quite rational to have knowledge and morality." or something of the sort.

if one does not assume that there is a "great architect" (also deism), then one usually arrives at the conclusion that: "... knowledge, hope, meaning, and morality are created by us.... (And so).... it is quite rational to have knowledge and morality." or something of this sort.

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barlowtl 3 years, 1 month ago

How many would embrace the belief in God but just can't get past his fan club.

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ophiuchus 3 years, 1 month ago

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus (whose name is longer than his comment) says… "That made me dizzy to read."

I find that background music helps...

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yourworstnightmare 3 years, 1 month ago

The funny thing is that, when pressed, most believers are forced to attack the very existence of knowledge and truth and objective reality in defense of their belief.

In essence, a belief in god drives one to nihilism and relativism.

Thus the Nietzsche and Sartre quotes in this letter.

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Orwell 3 years, 1 month ago

Is there any greater waste of newsprint than letters arguing about religion?

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Stuart Evans 3 years, 1 month ago

sigh.....

The atheist has the freedom to question and think without being disowned by his peers.

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ksrush 3 years, 1 month ago

Never would have guessed there would be such a backlash against God.

This anti God blabber does however reflect a famous quote that comes to mind and I believe it fits Larryville libs or cultural elite to a T

" you cant polish a terd "

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Grant_Runyun 3 years, 1 month ago

This is satire. A Christian quoting Nietsche and Sartre as arguments for the belief in god, while denouncing cherry-picking evidence to support a personal world-view? Ya'll got trolled.

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Kirk Larson 3 years, 1 month ago

Actually, non-believers are more moral than believers. Believers are good because they believe they will be punished if they are bad. This is the same level of morality as a well trained dog that knows it will be punished if it poops on the carpet. Non-believers are good because they understand that proper social behavior is necessary for society to function, that it's the right thing to do.

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yourworstnightmare 3 years, 1 month ago

"Apart from God there is no knowledge, hope, meaning, and morality."

This is simply and demonstrably false. Study after study have shown that believers are no more or less honest or moral than atheists (unless morality is defined as believing in and obeying the word of a god). One only need look to the abuses and crimes committed by the clergy of all religions and by the followers of all religions.

The fact that belief in god is irrelevant to human hope, meaning, morality and knowledge indicates that these things likely pre-dated belief in god.

Humans invented god to explain these feelings of hope, meaning, morality, and knowledge that they already had, to codify them.

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Liberty275 3 years, 1 month ago

"Apart from God there is no knowledge, hope, meaning, and morality."

There is no god, so I guess we'll just have to live between our synapses.

Also, thanks for the Nietzsche. Post some more tomorrow.

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75x55 3 years, 1 month ago

Yet another opportunity for the godless and lost to wail and gnash their teeth, all the while cranking up LJW ad count revenue.

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Haiku 3 years, 1 month ago

From those that brought you the Spanish Inquisition: advice on morals!

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VoijaRisa 3 years, 1 month ago

I think this writer forgot how to make an argument. The quotes should support the point; not be irrelevant to it. Richard doesn't ever support the claim that without God, there is no morality or way to obtain knowledge. It's a ludicrous claim, but one I hear quite frequently from self-righteous theists.

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nouseforaname 3 years, 1 month ago

Good job in taking both Nietzsche and Sartre COMPLETELY out of context. But this is commonplace for Christians that like to pick-and-choose which parts of the Bible they want to follow. It only makes sense that do that for every other book out there.

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4getabouit 3 years, 1 month ago

"God is dead." Nietzsche

"Nietzsche is dead." God

"God is Nietzsche." Dead

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Olympics 3 years, 1 month ago

I'm 8% dumber for reading this.

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Abdu Omar 3 years, 1 month ago

Not everything on earth is what we want or decree; But Everything on earth is what God has decreed.

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Jimo 3 years, 1 month ago

I wonder what God's explanation for the tsunami in Japan is.

A wet god comes home, Cascading water stirs, This death under the waves.

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