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Letters to the Editor

Laughing liberal

January 8, 2011

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To the editor:

This has been a cold winter and, like most people, I’ve been a little short of cash. Not great times.

Imagine the uplift I got from reading Rep. Anthony Brown’s remarks that Lawrence and KU were “too liberal” and “not very well-respected.” I laughed until I had tears in my eyes.

Mr. Brown, Timothy McVeigh was not a liberal. He was a badly educated, anti-government ultraconservative who could have become an executive at Koch Industries if he’d just kept those nasty killer impulses under control.

Scott Roeder was not a liberal. He was a badly educated ultraconservative religious bigot who attempted to use the Christian faith to forge a social “purity” of the type espoused by many of the tea party folks.

Eric Rudolph was not a liberal. He was a badly educated ultraconservative “Christian Identity” nut who despised gays and who also wrapped his dynamite with sacks of nails to form killer shrapnel in case anybody survived the initial blasts.

What all three have in common is that, with their personal “philosophies,” they would have been welcomed with open arms into the current ultraconservative Kansas Republican Party prior to their public little missteps.

Thank you for brightening my day.

Comments

Verdad 3 years, 3 months ago

There are wackos everywhere. "A classmate of the man accused of shooting Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords this morning describes him as "left wing" and a "pot head" in a series of posts on Twitter this afternoon."

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2011/01/jared_loughner_alleged_shooter.php

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nomansland 3 years, 3 months ago

I laugh at the notion Lawrence is "too liberal". Sure it was during the racial conflict/ Vietnam protests of the 60's and 70's but most of us (myself included) weren't around for that. To most Kansans, Lawrence still is "liberal" when you realize this states politics have shifted significantly to the right over the last 15-30 years. In reality, Lawrence's politics are also shifting to the right as more Republicans move in the newer west side of town. That over time has diluted the city's predominately progressive thinking. It's moderate but not liberal like everyone thinks. Come to Eugene, OR or Berkley if you want to see "too liberal".

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jaywalker 3 years, 3 months ago

Sorry, Mr. Warrick, but your LTE is just as ridiculous as the comments by Brown. Well done.

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Verdad 3 years, 3 months ago

This is an interesting story about how a blogger for The Daily KOS wrote that Gifford was dead to him two days before the shooting. The Daily KOS has since tried to scrub the site but browser cache is a wonderful thing.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=249273

For the record, I'd think it was a tragedy regardless of which member of Congress was shot. An attack on one is an attack on all.

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purplesage 3 years, 3 months ago

LJW - Why on earth would you print something like this? It is ignorant.

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ksriver2010 3 years, 3 months ago

This could have been a good letter the the editor. The first two paragraphs are great. Instead it then veers into the "thoughtless, vitriolic and vicious message" that posters above claim the Right spouts. Regardless of political leanings, taking a potshot at Koch was just plain stupid in this context. And while McVeigh and Roeder are from Kansas, Eric Rudolph is not.

Keeping more to the facts, we are already seeing a shift in Lawrence that will have ramifications in years to come. While the University and others closer to downtown (like honk for hemp guy) have definite liberal leanings, the west side (anything west of Kasold and maybe even west of Iowa) continues to grow more conservative. Go south of 1000 road and you will hear guns ablazing at any time on the weekend. And Lawrence continues to become a bedroom community for KC/OP jobs and Topeka state jobs. And most of those folks are not liberal, and would prefer their SLT bypass over a wetlands, for example. This will present an increasing conflict in city and county government in the future and should be fairly amusing to watch.

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Scott Morgan 3 years, 3 months ago

The shootings in Arizona had nothing to do with politics, and everything to do with mental illness.

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sunny 3 years, 3 months ago

I can't believe I actually live in Lawrence Ks! I'm moving out soon. You people are an embarassment!

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Timothy Eugene 3 years, 3 months ago

The more liberals beocme the minority, the more they scream, shout, and call names. This LTE and the sunsequent comments are the usual rants of a very minor few. Liberalism is dying (albeit not without a fight), and they know it.

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CorkyHundley 3 years, 3 months ago

I can't remember. Was Laughing Liberal in the Newspaper church the other day?

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spawk1 3 years, 3 months ago

I agree with the author of the letter to today's editor and am saddened that his point was proven right as the events unfolded out in Arizona. My thoughts and prayers are with the victims of the tragedy. Yes, we liberals are praying people...we also may go to church...The point is that seriously ill people are influenced by right wing rhetoric that can be found on today's airwaves. The shooter may not have considered himself to be right wing,we don't know yet, but he was anti-government. The political climate in Arizona was nasty this election year as Congresswoman Gifford had previously received threats and had enemies in the Tea Party. In this atmosphere, there is a lot of vitriol and unstable people can pick up on it and act, where as normal people would not. Therein lies the point of the letter. Timothy McVeigh and the others surely were not normal people, but they latched onto the anti-government rhetoric and acted on it. Conservatives on this site can make fun of liberals all they want, but I'd rather be a Kumbaya singin', tree hugging, peace wanting liberal any day. Luckily, we live in a country where we still have the right to choose our political persuasion. Actually, I have never hugged a tree, would love to have the SLT completed and still consider myself liberal as I was raised that way by my proudly liberal parents some 53 years ago. I am so proud to live in Lawrence and could care less what others in this state think about my town!

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bearded_gnome 3 years, 3 months ago

Tuschie and others need to get a grip.

the shooter in AZ today displayed some just plain nuttiness.

however, he also wrote some antichristian biggoted stuff.
they make themselves look like utter fools trying to smear the right with this shooting, jumping on the bodies while they're still warm and twisting facts beyond recognition.

he said that he had a Bible forced on him.

craziness: he said that the government was trying to control people's minds through grammar.

but worth noting, it seems some reports have it that after Loughner started firing someone else returned fire and may have hit crazy dude.
was this from an "open carry" individual, or security? either way, the use of that second gun may have prevented further death and injury. time will tell.

*Bea, thanks for your sanity in your first post. this LTE is completely void of substance and is merely a smear.

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handlon 3 years, 3 months ago

Ok, here we go again. To prove Mr. Warrick's point, who will be willing to bet that Jared Loughner is our next badly educated, anti-government ultraconservative who succumbed to his own madness while fueled by the thoughtless, vitriolic and vicious messages that continue to pour from the mouths of the far right. Call me anything you like right-wingers....liberal, socialist, communist.... All I can tell you is that I am proud to be the liberal that I am. I believe it's now time for the left to fight back and stop the madness!!!

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Tom Shewmon 3 years, 3 months ago

Some of the far-left posters here are despicable and disgusting. Even bozo can keep his head screwed on tight. What is wrong with you loons?

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Mike Ford 3 years, 3 months ago

young caucasian shooter Jared Loughner, 22, I saw the ramblings on the facebook of the kid. Not an illegal alien as some of the finger pointing deniers would like. Congrats tea partiers 2nd amendment people, republicans, you just lit the fuse of a crazy person. Bill O'Reilly didn't light the fuse of Scott Roeder either...not at all....

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scott3460 3 years, 3 months ago

And today we add another. Democratic US Congresswoman shot point blank by one of these crazies.
Sad, sad, sad that what the hatemongers on the right peddle so freely reaps such bitter consequences for decent Americans.
Damn them all.

May God DXXX each and every one!!

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Mike Ford 3 years, 3 months ago

I like the fact that dumblicans have to admit the largess of their ignorance. They can't be in 1955 forever. Furthermore, I wonder how apologizing they're going to have to do in light of the Democratic Congresswoman that was shot twenty minutes ago in Tuscon, AZ doing a constituency meeting at a safeway. I wonder if the tealicans and the dumblicans said just enough hateful stuff to drive some dimwit to fire into the crowd of a Democratic congresswoman and seriously wound her and her staff. You know morals and religion amongst these people brings out enlightened actions. Just ask Scott Roeder about this...

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Tom Shewmon 3 years, 3 months ago

Lawrence is just like Boulder, Berkley or Providence (Brown) except Lawrence has very little to offer regarding it's geography, economy or extracurricular. Lawrence, unfortunately, just has a small but awfully loud contingent of misanthropic far-left zealots who can not seem to get a grip. If there is anything in my life, which is far from perfect, that I'm glad for, it's that I am not a far-left zealot----what a horrible life sentence. Wow!

May God Bless.

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horsegirl 3 years, 3 months ago

Let me preface my statement by saying that I think extremes of anything tend to be bad.

That being said though, an extreme liberal is going to climb up a tree to prevent it from being cut down, while smoking pot and singing Kum-bay-ya (sp?). An extreme conservative is going to hoard guns, teach his children to hate anyone not like him, and prepare to take down the government.

I know which one I'd rather be if forced to choose.

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BigPrune 3 years, 3 months ago

Lawrence is the laughing stock of Kansas. Go anywhere in Kansas and tell them you're from Lawrence then expect to apologize for being from Lawrence and you're not one of the kooks or weirdos that inhabit our city. You'll make a new friend easily.

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Phil Minkin 3 years, 3 months ago

Repost: Outside the state, when Kansas was mentioned, people usually thought of Dorothy and Toto, Dodge City or basketball. Now it's Fred Phelps and teaching creationism in the schools. Thank heavens for Lawrence to go against that view. "Lawrence: Twenty-seven square miles of reality surrounded by Kansas."

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beatrice 3 years, 3 months ago

I know this letter is trying to set up a dichotomy of liberal (good) and conservative (bad), but lumping the opinions of Rep. Brown and conservatives with the murderous actions of the criminally insane is like comparing apples with ... well, things that aren't even food.

I am quite sure Brown would not approve of murderous actions. He is conservative, but that doesn't make him evil. Misguided? Sure, but not evil. To the point of the letter, it isn't important if criminals could join a specific group before they commit their crimes. Before committing a crime people are just citizens. What would be worth noting is if they joined and were accepted into a group after they committed their crimes. Has that happened with any of the murderers listed in the letter? Has Brown praised the actions of Roeder, for example? If not, then it is a nonsense argument.

So Brown, a conservative, spoke out against liberals. Big deal. He was pandering to his base and speaking his mind. The response should either be "So what?" or "I appreciate the honesty, but I don't agree with you." Further, instead of attacking a conservative for saying what he really thinks, the letter writer should be asking, why don't Lawrence representatives speak out more often against things they feel are too conservative? Recognize different points of view, then build on what you do have in common from there.

Although this letter didn't actually mention Hitler, it is basically a Godwin argument by dragging criminals into it. I mean, Hitler was a vegetarian so I am sure he would have been accepted into several liberal groups, especially PETA ... until he went and tried to take over the world, that is. Even PETA would reject his membership. At least I think so.

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kernal 3 years, 3 months ago

Didn't I just see some of these comments on another story this morning? Are we having winter brain fog here?

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booyalab 3 years, 3 months ago

is the Daily Show on reruns?

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Richard Heckler 3 years, 3 months ago

I'll accept the resignation of the D.C. beltway politician that was elected governor who brings with him years and years of reckless spending and home loan scandals. AND all of those years on the tax dollar payroll with taxpayer funded medical insurance. All of this from the party that hates big government..... hmmmmmmm.

Maybe what Brown is implying he wants all of us to vote for neoconservatives and reckless tax dollar management.

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Scott Morgan 3 years, 3 months ago

Most college towns are liberal, no surprise here. Funny though, Lawrence does have a negative better than thou reputation in the KC Metro area as well.

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CorkyHundley 3 years, 3 months ago

The "Conscience of Kansas" is laughing at "cherrypicked" examples of people that are the rest of Kansas.....?

Laughing DRD 4 Genies should laugh. They are the ones D&C'ing their prospective constituents.

Whatever the "Conscience of Kansas" percentage of D&C's are, their goal should be that of New Yorks 41%. It's a nice target for them to shoot for.

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Tom Shewmon 3 years, 3 months ago

Richard, I'll loan you some money with a very attractive interest rate. And let's not forget Sebelius, Tiller, Foulston, Clark, Morrison and the rest of the KlanParenthood supporters and late-term abortion supporters who were part and parcel of ending the lives of scores of soon-to-be kids. That's what Kansas was known for, for a very long time.

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