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Archive for Thursday, February 3, 2011

Closings and cancellations for Thursday, Feb. 3, 2011

February 3, 2011, 12:00 a.m. Updated February 3, 2011, 9:16 a.m.

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These are the closings and cancellations that have been reported to us. If you have a closing to report, please e-mail it to editor@ljworld.com.

School districts

  • Genesis Christian Academy
  • DeSoto USD 232
  • Ottawa USD 290
  • Baldwin City USD 348
  • Basehor Linwood USD 458
  • Eudora USD 491
  • McLouth USD 342
  • Oskaloosa USD 341
  • Tonganoxie USD 464
  • Wellsville USD 289

Businesses, clubs and organization

  • 1109 Gallery — closed
  • Jayhawk Breakfast Rotary Meeting — canceled
  • The City of Lawrence Parks and Recreation will cancel all morning recreation classe aquatics programs will be held as scheduled. All Parks and Recreation facilities will be open.

Events

  • "Discovering Pluto" with Michael Byers — postponed until April

Comments

pace 3 years, 2 months ago

. If you have trained your kids in sub zero weather techniques and if you can trust them to follow the safety rules and if they have appropriate layers and if it is a short walk, That is a lot of ifs. Know that hypothermia kills, frostbite can happen fast and causes permanent damage. The people at greatest risk are children and the elderly. (by the way 50's should not be considered elderly). Some of the factors are the weight of the child and the circulatory system of the elderly. People die from hypothermia every year, no one plans to.

While we have good weather reports, they are not perfect and they are general. Pockets of wind and moisture can increase the wind chill factor. A good example is walking into the wind rather than with your back to the wind.

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Wendy magillicutty 3 years, 2 months ago

ha! I'm sure attending school nor home schooling are NOT classified as torture or bad parenting...although some parts of the world may take issue with it.

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Wendy magillicutty 3 years, 2 months ago

For those who are lucky enough to have a job in this fierce employment market, it is probably threatened by the slightest attendance issue and there are 100 people wanting their job. Attendance is the easiest way to fire an employee because it is the easiest to track and report. Folks can fair better w bosses and teachers if there is an OFFICIAL school closing. That is why those people are clamoring for official word and do not have the LUXURY of "just staying home if you think it's too dangerous for your kids." They have the difficult and sometimes heart wrenching task of choosing job/school to take care of their kids over the long haul. Berating them is downright mean. They may or may not have a vehicle up to your standards of reliability, tire tread, engine condition or even HEAT production. These people will be concerned when their streets or driveways are not sufficient to leave. GOD FORBID they're turned in for not shoveling. Unless you can see their street, drive or vehicle, you do not SEE the position they are in. A rational person with empathy can try to understand their circumstances. On the subject of "it ain't that dangerous out there for your kids, you're raising weaklings." What decade are you from and how did you attain this jackwagon perspective? The argument simply does not stand. Those who are acclimated and routinely in -40 degrees likely have better clothing and vehicles to handle the seemingly normal conditions. I'm sure you've done research to see just how often they close their schools/businesses due to these conditions before passing judgment on those who think -14 degrees might be dangerous to their children. Those accusing me of not wanting to spend time with my children because I am encouraged to see my child getting reasonably safe transportation to school: I suggest that you are acclimated to extensive time spent with your child/ren, happy being home, and feel comfortable attending to their education needs. Fantastic. Why then do you care if schools are closed or not? Judging me because I value the time I can work, study, clean, ENJOY SILENCE and the superior ability of the quality teachers my child will encounter is silly. I am darn near jealous that you can do it. I do not have the patience or education tools to do so day after day after day after day.....you can raise your child any way you want, within reason, and I can raise mine similarly. I'm sure attending school nor home schooling are classified as torture or bad parenting.
For those who have taken the time to read this and find enlightenment, new access to empathy or at least have actively used reason, huzzah! Doesn't that feel more natural than judging and hazing others like some school yard bully? Incidentally, I had to walk to school, up hill ONE way because there wasn't funding for bussing when I started school. It sucked and I got a ride from the neighbor every chance I got.

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jlparker86 3 years, 2 months ago

im sure in parts of the country where its negative forty wind chill they dont have such bad budget cuts that a majority of kids have to find their own way to school. some families dont have money for a vehicle to get their kids to school. some families dont have money to get their kids adequite clothes for this weather. some parents dont have the luxury of having a job to where they can take off everytime their kid is lef off school. some parents dont have the luxury of having the extra money to give to a baby sitter or a drop in center. a mix of this, the bus system cuts, and the city not making sure the roads are clear so people who dont have vehicles that can get around makes sure someone is bound to be screwed. did i read correctly that downtown wasnt plowed yet? haha that makes me laugh knowing that our citys focus was somewhere other than downtown first. i dont have kids but i know several people who do. and some of those kids have to walk in this. so as caring citizens parents should talk to one another and try to work out a system to where you can help eachother out and make it to where no ones kids have to walk by people giving other kids rides to school too. and to the teacher who said what are we supposed to do with them cause we cant send them to recess, when i went to woodlawn if we couldnt go to recess, we would have freetime is the classroom where we could play board games, color, talk, read etc. or classes took turns going to the gym and playing.

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CM101 3 years, 2 months ago

good thing we got a ride today :)

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HRCJJ 3 years, 2 months ago

I believe that with the new policy change it will be considered unexcused.

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Bobbi Reid 3 years, 2 months ago

Is it considered excused or unexcused if you keep your kids home due to weather?

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aha 3 years, 2 months ago

jeezus people. if you think it is too dangerous (cold) to send your kids to school today, DON'T SEND THEM! it is ultimately your choice.

stop complaining, turn off those alarms, & go back to bed.

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Sheila Hooper White 3 years, 2 months ago

I'm sorry to disagree but I think they should be in school. Yes....it's cold. That's why they make hat, gloves, scarves, etc. And before anyone says your child doesn't have to wait on the bus or gets a ride to and from school.....you are wrong. She does get a ride there but b/c of my business I can't pick her up. She will be walking home and I will be sure to remind her to bundle up good b/c it's cold. Does this really make me such a bad parent?? I don't think so. If you don't want you child out in this then keep them at home. Some people don't have that luxury and need to get back to work.

I run a daycare out of my home and I've had children everyday this week. I could of closed but parents have to work. If they can get their child to me they are more then welcome to bring them.

And the complaining about the snow plows. Again I think anyone that complains should have to ride with this guys on one of the shifts. It's not easy. They are working as quickly as possible. They made it down my street at about 3:30 last night and guess what buried the end of my driveway. And no my husband doesn't just shovel I also help. So I got my shovel and went back out and cleaned up the drive. Whoop de do.......come on people really, where else is the snow to go??. Heck we're running out of room in our driveway.

I wish everyone would stop complaining and help eachother out!!!

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Bobbi Reid 3 years, 2 months ago

Way to go Lawrence...it's only -15 outside. Way to think of those kids and not the bottom line... seriously, what is one more day?

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fearsadness14 3 years, 2 months ago

everyone grow up and walk to school. In Minnesota, some of the kids here have never had snow days before... and they are about to graduate from HIGH SCHOOL. A little cold never killed anyone. at least, anyone worth their weight in salt. anyone ever heard of the darwin awards? anyone struggling in these temps deserves to be sat down and removed from society. it isn't cold until fuel freezes. -40 please.

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measles 3 years, 2 months ago

JMH, I got a 5:45 a.m. call that school was cancelled on one of the earlier snow days. If they do cancel in the morning, they try to do so by 6 a.m. But it's not like the -19 windchill will be a surprise at that point like the earlier snow days were.

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kernal 3 years, 2 months ago

Someone commented that it will cost the school district money if schools aren't open tomorrow. Not sure I understand that. I would think they would save money by having the schools empty so they can keep the thermostat lower. They could make up a day by delaying Spring Break or add it at the end of Spring Break.

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Rae Smith Evans 3 years, 2 months ago

They could easily call it at 6 am. I truly hope they do. I see way too many kids walking to and from school to think they could possibly be ok in those dangerous temps.

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JMH716 3 years, 2 months ago

Do they typically make their decision the night before? Or could they make a decision at, say, 6:00 tomorrow morning?

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Kylee Manahan 3 years, 2 months ago

As far as the Weather Channel is concerned, at 7a.m. the temp should be -9 with a wind chill of -19. We have big warmup at 8a.m., the temp is supposed to -8. Whew! I have worked on those buses and if the temp is -9 then so is the inside of the bus until kids fill them up.

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Wendy magillicutty 3 years, 2 months ago

hey! don't forget to show your kids the trick of throwing hot water in the air and watch it freeze.

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ohmylawrence 3 years, 2 months ago

My street still not cleared. If the windchill is what they say its going to be, my 11 yr old and 5 yr old will not be going to school. Even with a scarf thats hard on their lungs. Not to mention that even if we walk its still a mile to the school. My car is stuck and people are having to park at the end of our street. Just not worth it. Education is important but their health and well being is more important. im good with cutting spring break short for make up days. I just want them to be safe and healthy. To the one who posted saying that their friend told them the streets are clear. I agree the MAIN streets are good. However, the residential streets are no where near clear and it takes time for the city to get to these streets. They cant work 24 hours. Thats not safe for them. I know they are doing their best. I now am doing my best as a parent to make a call of keeping them home tomorrow.

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amrose42683 3 years, 2 months ago

I find it laughable that people are commenting about how Lawrence streets are all clear, and especially from those that don't even live hear and are going by what someone told them. Those people that told you Lawrence streets are clear are probably just looking out their window at their own. We're still under a foot of snow on my street. So while my driveway is clear the chances of my Sedan actually getting off this street is slim to none. I don't mind if the kids have school tomorrow as long as I can get mine there in a warm car that is safe to drive in cuz I'll be d@mned if I'm walking my five year old to school in these cold temps.

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Wendy magillicutty 3 years, 2 months ago

and, I might add, I was the one that posted that endangering ourselves or kids for school or work is ridiculous. And I think it is lovely that you prefer nothing but spending time with your kids. Really, I do. You stick with that.

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Wendy magillicutty 3 years, 2 months ago

Ok you're right, I dont love my kid. She's been in school approximately 10 days since the second week of december. we've had PLENTY of bonding time. I'll send her to your house. In a scarf.

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Wendy magillicutty 3 years, 2 months ago

Hahaha jamminalive you clearly don't have kids if you think staying home for days at a time with them is what we prefer.

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samtheman101 3 years, 2 months ago

With the projected wind chills sitting at -20 and most residential streets untouched, I think the smart option would be to close school. It's just one more day. However, this is Lawrence. There will be school. Dr. Doll doesn't seem to have a whole lot of common sense about this stuff. No doubt, people will make it work. But a two hour late arrival would solve it.

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Jamminalive 3 years, 2 months ago

Everybody I talked to has said there is school tomorrow due to the fact that the streets are plowed in Lawrence, I know somebody in Perry who just told me the streets are clear, a relative in N Lawrence ditto, along with a friend who lives out by Clinton lake. Has anybody heard of scarves these days? or is it easier to shelter your child because you guys don't feel like going to work? I believe in education.

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Fredmandu 3 years, 2 months ago

"Why doesn't the school look at late arrival?" Because that would make too much sense.

Olathe, KCK, KCMO, Blue Valley, Shawnee Mission as well as all the smaller, surrounding districts are out tomorrow, taking their students' welfare into account. So what if additional time needs to be tacked on to the end of some school days or even, heaven forbid, add one day in the springtime?

Keep your children at home when it's dangerously cold --like tomorrow.

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unklemonkey 3 years, 2 months ago

way too cold, and i lost count of how many residential streets are still not plowed. close the schools, safety first.

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Wendy magillicutty 3 years, 2 months ago

I thnk late arrival or 1/2 day is a great idea. I think that bosses are only more understanding if people call in because schools are closed, not just because I want to keep my kids safe. I think that waiting until 9 or even 10 o'clock at night to find out which story to tell the boss or which childcare to secure is a PIA and 497 always does that; KU is worse. Bosses don't wanna wait to hear from their employees at 10pm either way. Lastly, I believe all of society is ridiculous to ever place safety ahead of anything work or school related, especially employers. Just ask yourself, what is sofa king important over life itself?!

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momoftoomany 3 years, 2 months ago

I understand that the kids need to be in school but I think it's too cold also at this point. Why doesn't the school district look at a late arrival - a couple of hours in the morning would make a big difference in the temps. Right now, my husband is trying to dig out the end of our driveway where the city trucks pile 2.5 feet of snow and the temp is -1 w/ a wind chill of -15! What's it going to be like in the a.m.?

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Rae Smith Evans 3 years, 2 months ago

they are freaking out over having to make up time. I bet there is school tomorrow, however dangerous the temps might be.

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mommydaycare 3 years, 2 months ago

Can someone please make a decision, parents do work and have to make plans. Why does Lawrence always have to wait until the last minute??????

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Staci Dark Simpson 3 years, 2 months ago

Its kind of a double standard that kids can't play outside if the wind chill is below 15 but are expected to walk to school in colder temps. Lawrence is notorious for not cancelling when everyone else does though so please send your kiddies with appropriate cold weather gear and stress how important it is to leave it on until in the building.

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Jamminalive 3 years, 2 months ago

Don't you suppose though that if you already have to walk everyday you have all the snow gear to do it in...just saying.

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HRCJJ 3 years, 2 months ago

Driving by Sunflower/Southwest today and they didn't even start to clear the sidewalks. Some of the neighborhoods over here haven't even seen a plow yet either.

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measles 3 years, 2 months ago

I think maybe some people who think the schools should be open in this temperature forget that buses don't run to all (most?) Lawrence elementary schools. I am ready to send my kiddo back to school, and if it's open tomorrow I know he will get there safe and warm, but we should remember that not everyone can drive their kids to school and some have to walk.

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Jamminalive 3 years, 2 months ago

Idk maybe they should just cancel on days that are in the negative for the little ones.

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Jamminalive 3 years, 2 months ago

There will be school tomorrow guys. The roads are all cleared.

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conservative 3 years, 2 months ago

Many states north of here have temperatures this low often and don't call school because of temps. fargo north dakota is expecting chills of -40 tomorrow and aren't closing because of temps. Again if you think it is too cold feel free to keep your kids home, but don't think that the schools should close for everyone.

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nascarmomma 3 years, 2 months ago

During inclement weather, Imagine closes when Lawrence schools are closed.

Sorry but this doesn't help if they also close when the schools close.

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YourItalianPrincess 3 years, 2 months ago

Lawrence does have drop-in child care. Go the website below and see what they have to offer. A truly wonderful place to take your kids. http://imaginechildcare.com

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Jeff Plinsky 3 years, 2 months ago

For the two posters who believe kids have adequate coats, and temperature should not be an issue in closing schools:

Little kids who walk to school will no doubt leave home bundled up appropriately for a walk in sub-zero temps. However, if you have ever tried keeping a coat on an 8 year old for any length of time, you know that s/he may not arrive at school dressed the same way as when s/he left home. Frost bite occurs quickly, especially in little fingers, noses and ears.

Temperature is a perfectly valid reason for calling off school, and it is a perfectly valid reason for keeping kids home who otherwise have to walk.

Having said that, I certainly hope we have school tomorrow. I've got kids to teach, and these breaks are driving me batty.

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middlemgmt 3 years, 2 months ago

Our neighborhood has not been plowed. I hope they get to it before we leave for school. We could get stuck trying to ger up our hill.

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conservative 3 years, 2 months ago

There is no reason to close schools because of temperatures. The schools won't let the kids outside, and most kids have perfectly adequate coats. If a parent feels it is too cold then they can take it upon themselves to keep their kids home. School should only be closed for unsafe roads. closing for temperature is pointless as most of the kids will go outside and play in the snow on their day off.

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mammaweeks3 3 years, 2 months ago

No School is not a day care, but for those of us that have to work to support their families it is not convenient when they close day after day and we have to call a babysitter. I am lucky as my kids are older and we have family as backups but for those that don't and can not stay home it can be very difficult. There should be a drop off day care in this area that is affordable for situations like this.

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mommaof2boys 3 years, 2 months ago

My family was staying in for the day doing the usual during a snow day: eating cookies, playing games, and making forts out of blankets, pillows, and chairs. Never thought I'd have to think about the physical damage such items could cause until my 5 year old shouted, "Cannonball!" and jumped in the middle of the fort. As we drove to the ER, the roads were trecherous and we had to try several routes because of stalled traffic on Iowa, but we made good time to LMH. The staff, nurses, doctors, etc... were wonderful as always. 6 stitches later, we made the return drive home and couldn't believe how much snow accumulated in the 3 hours we were gone! Needless to say, I won't look at forts the same way again! :-)

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BruceWayne 3 years, 2 months ago

I am hearing Kansas State has cancelled the remainder of the mens basketball season.

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monkeywrench1969 3 years, 2 months ago

I would rather have the kids inside a warm school learning rather than inside a warm home if they are going to be inside anyway.

I think people's bosses will understand having to take the kids to school if the buses are not running/or the district not wanting the kids to be standing on corners, rather than missing full days of work to stay home with the kids. SOme are running out of babysitter options and days off.

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greywolf85203 3 years, 2 months ago

Please remember people you have the right to keep your children home in the event that Lawrence has school. With as many students that are walking now due to budget cuts it is likely that they will call school with a wind chill advisory out there. The kids don't even go out side for recess if the wind chill is below 15 above. I would hope that since this doesn't happen that often that Dr. Doll would see that the dangerous temperature the wind chill will create problems. Frost bite takes just a short time to cause long term problems.

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goodcitizen 3 years, 2 months ago

KCK is out because we already had parent teacher conferences scheduled for tomorrow. Teachers (and hopefully parents) as well as support staff will be there.

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Bobbi Reid 3 years, 2 months ago

KCK and KCMO school are out tomorrow as is Desoto and Olathe... Really hoping they take into consideration the temps in the morning, when they decide to have school or not tomorrow.

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yellowdot99 3 years, 2 months ago

I spent over 2 hours cleaning my car and the driveway so I could be ready to go to work tomorrow(First Student). Along comes the plow after I had gone in shower and changed and now I am back to being struck in with at least a 2 feet high snow ledge blocking my drive. Thanks city. Oh I am over 65 and doing this on my own so in the morning I will try to drive through it if I can.

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Wendy magillicutty 3 years, 2 months ago

what does plowing have to do with wind chill?

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Steve Jacob 3 years, 2 months ago

Interesting call for school on Thursday. How low does the wind chill have to be at say 5AM in cancel school? And will all the residential streets be done by 7AM Thursday?

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