Archive for Thursday, February 3, 2011

Closings and cancellations for Thursday, Feb. 3, 2011

February 3, 2011, 12:00 a.m. Updated February 3, 2011, 9:16 a.m.

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These are the closings and cancellations that have been reported to us. If you have a closing to report, please e-mail it to editor@ljworld.com.

School districts

  • Genesis Christian Academy
  • DeSoto USD 232
  • Ottawa USD 290
  • Baldwin City USD 348
  • Basehor Linwood USD 458
  • Eudora USD 491
  • McLouth USD 342
  • Oskaloosa USD 341
  • Tonganoxie USD 464
  • Wellsville USD 289

Businesses, clubs and organization

  • 1109 Gallery — closed
  • Jayhawk Breakfast Rotary Meeting — canceled
  • The City of Lawrence Parks and Recreation will cancel all morning recreation classe aquatics programs will be held as scheduled. All Parks and Recreation facilities will be open.

Events

  • "Discovering Pluto" with Michael Byers — postponed until April

Comments

Steve Jacob 4 years, 7 months ago

Interesting call for school on Thursday. How low does the wind chill have to be at say 5AM in cancel school? And will all the residential streets be done by 7AM Thursday?

Wendy magillicutty 4 years, 7 months ago

what does plowing have to do with wind chill?

yellowdot99 4 years, 7 months ago

I spent over 2 hours cleaning my car and the driveway so I could be ready to go to work tomorrow(First Student). Along comes the plow after I had gone in shower and changed and now I am back to being struck in with at least a 2 feet high snow ledge blocking my drive. Thanks city. Oh I am over 65 and doing this on my own so in the morning I will try to drive through it if I can.

John Kyle 4 years, 7 months ago

Really, you're 65 and you're not aware that your driveway will be plowed in by the city when they go by? This happens every year and it is all part of having our streets cleaned. You complainers should just get over it. I for one, am glad the city plows the streets, even if it means I have to clean the end of my driveway again after they come by.

jhawk926 4 years, 7 months ago

Queequeg, so nice to see someone on here posting something with common sense and a level head.

ridgwaybryce 4 years, 7 months ago

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tomatogrower 4 years, 7 months ago

If you shovel about a ten by 3 feet strip down the side where the plow comes through, you won't have a lump to shovel later. It's probably the same amount of shoveling, but not the irritation of going out twice to shovel.

George_Braziller 4 years, 7 months ago

You've seen a plow? My street hasn't even seen a sand truck. I also live on a one-way street and when they plowed the cross street we ended up with a two foot pile of snow at the intersection. Right now the only way out is to back down the street and hope you can make it.

Hoots 4 years, 7 months ago

I fugured this one out when I was 5. Seriously...you still don't get the drill?

Bobbi Walls 4 years, 7 months ago

KCK and KCMO school are out tomorrow as is Desoto and Olathe... Really hoping they take into consideration the temps in the morning, when they decide to have school or not tomorrow.

Ann Hamil 4 years, 7 months ago

KCK is out because we already had parent teacher conferences scheduled for tomorrow. Teachers (and hopefully parents) as well as support staff will be there.

greywolf85203 4 years, 7 months ago

Please remember people you have the right to keep your children home in the event that Lawrence has school. With as many students that are walking now due to budget cuts it is likely that they will call school with a wind chill advisory out there. The kids don't even go out side for recess if the wind chill is below 15 above. I would hope that since this doesn't happen that often that Dr. Doll would see that the dangerous temperature the wind chill will create problems. Frost bite takes just a short time to cause long term problems.

Adrienne Sanders 4 years, 7 months ago

Are parents not responsible enough to make sure that kids have enough clothes on and get to & from school safely in the cold?

alm77 4 years, 7 months ago

Well, one would hope that if they can't provide the proper clothing (and some genuinely can't) or the transportation to get them to school, that they would at least be able to keep kids home like greywolf suggests.

JovianaRex 4 years, 7 months ago

Negative seven is not just "cold". Unless you have attire which is designed for that kind of frigid temp, you will not be able to avoid problems with prolonged exposures. Yes: I mean "prolonged" equals 20-30 minutes. Or 15 minutes for an elementary school-aged student. Also: Walmart doesn't sell outerwear of that construction. (Duh). If we don't get our street (and....gulp...cul-de-sac) cleared at least once by tomorrow morning, our elementary school will get an absent call.

Like one more day matters at this point? Do you really think that it will rule out any chance of medical school admission? Somebody, go ahead.... make a typical Lawrencian argument against that statement. I love it.

flamingoroad 4 years, 7 months ago

You would think so -- but apparently some are not. School was never closed due to freezing weather before. Just bundle up!! I think its the parents who don't want to get out.

monkeywrench1969 4 years, 7 months ago

I would rather have the kids inside a warm school learning rather than inside a warm home if they are going to be inside anyway.

I think people's bosses will understand having to take the kids to school if the buses are not running/or the district not wanting the kids to be standing on corners, rather than missing full days of work to stay home with the kids. SOme are running out of babysitter options and days off.

pace 4 years, 7 months ago

There speaks a voice untouched by reality. the bosses of many will fire you for missing days or even being late. The same voices that blame the parents if something happens to a kid walking to school now fix an imaginary blame if they don't let a kid walk to school in sub zero wind chill.

ohmylawrence 4 years, 7 months ago

Actually no most bosses are not that understanding. No matter what the reason. I for one have not even had a road crew down my street. My oldest son got stuck in a 4X4 on our street so even if they have school sadly we cant go anywhere. I really hope they do have school and I can figure out how to get them there but its too far for the lil ones to walk in the wind chill.

ohmylawrence 4 years, 7 months ago

Actually no most bosses are not that understanding. No matter what the reason. I for one have not even had a road crew down my street. My oldest son got stuck in a 4X4 on our street so even if they have school sadly we cant go anywhere. I really hope they do have school and I can figure out how to get them there but its too far for the lil ones to walk in the wind chill.

Hoots 4 years, 7 months ago

That's so true and AWESOME!!! Parents don't see it as school anymore but free daycare. I don't have kids so your evil spawn is costing the rest of us tax dollars. Just take them away as long as we don't have to deal with them...REALLY!!! Just use a pro-fa-ya-know next time. Sick of paying for your kids day care you call school.

CM101 4 years, 7 months ago

To Me It's School Where They Learn :P I Don't Want Anyone Taking Them AWAY ..Thats Horrible..If They All Get Taken Away Who Will Take Over When We All Get Old n Grey? Gah Boo Hoo About Tax Dollars..Parents Pay It Too..So Quit Crying :P

CM101 4 years, 7 months ago

They Will Have To Pay Them Too When They Get Older

BruceWayne 4 years, 7 months ago

I am hearing Kansas State has cancelled the remainder of the mens basketball season.

mommaof2boys 4 years, 7 months ago

My family was staying in for the day doing the usual during a snow day: eating cookies, playing games, and making forts out of blankets, pillows, and chairs. Never thought I'd have to think about the physical damage such items could cause until my 5 year old shouted, "Cannonball!" and jumped in the middle of the fort. As we drove to the ER, the roads were trecherous and we had to try several routes because of stalled traffic on Iowa, but we made good time to LMH. The staff, nurses, doctors, etc... were wonderful as always. 6 stitches later, we made the return drive home and couldn't believe how much snow accumulated in the 3 hours we were gone! Needless to say, I won't look at forts the same way again! :-)

black_butterfly 4 years, 7 months ago

I sincerely hope your son is ok but what a great story. When he is an adult he will LOVE telling that story about the snow day that he bit the dust (inside the house no less). Also kudos to you for doing more than just letting your children watch Nickelodeon or play video games all day long.

mammaweeks3 4 years, 7 months ago

No School is not a day care, but for those of us that have to work to support their families it is not convenient when they close day after day and we have to call a babysitter. I am lucky as my kids are older and we have family as backups but for those that don't and can not stay home it can be very difficult. There should be a drop off day care in this area that is affordable for situations like this.

cjandrun 4 years, 7 months ago

And daycare center teachers and staff are not baby sitters. We are educators as well. I worked over six years in a office setting and when my oldest had snow days I would use my PTO/sick or vacation time in order to stay home, as a parent it's something you have to do. I now work in the early childhood field and work at a center here in Lawrence that does in fact close on snow days. We do it to insure the saftey of our families, so they are not out driving in this weather with their kids in the back seat. We also do it so the teachers and other staff do not get hurt, what good would it be to have full families, kids and teachers hurt and not able to teach. I am sure most of you reading this think "daycare centers are baby sitters" no we do much more than that, we do lesson plans were we teach letters, numbers, shapes, colors, math, art, social skills, and much much more. But mammaweeks3 it is good that you have back up sitters, I know that most do not, but to answer your question about the centers that are open when schools are closed....La Petite (both centers in Lawrence) stay open during snow days and most "chain" centers do, but that is one thing most centers will tell you when you interview with them. And there is a "drop in" center in town called Imagine Drop-In Center (just keep in mind that in a situation like a snow day the kids may not be seperated by age and the number of kids could out way the number of teachers) And both centers from what I understand are affordable and very good. Hopefuly this helps clear up those out there that need help in finding a back up center or new center that is open on snow days and help those understand why most centers close on snow days.

mrbig 4 years, 7 months ago

Actually La Petite closed Tuesday and Wednesday.

pace 4 years, 7 months ago

Actually day care is a form of baby sitting. Your definition of babysitting seems odd.

pace 4 years, 7 months ago

Actually day care is a form of baby sitting. Your definition of babysitting seems odd.

Sheila Hooper White 4 years, 7 months ago

I'm sorry pace but I am not a babysitter. I go through alot to become a licensed day care provider. Just b/c I do it out of my home doesn't make me any less of an educator. I now also participate in a program that rates providers using the same type of star system that hotels and eating establishments use. I put alot of work into what I do. We have a set schedule that we follow and we don't just "play" all day. I most definately do not sit on babies. Thank you. Don't complain and call people names if you have never done this job before.

earthmomma 4 years, 7 months ago

No one called you a name. Get off your high horse.

Sheila Hooper White 4 years, 7 months ago

There are a few people calling others names on here. Have you read all the comments? I teach my daycare children not to call eachother names so how does that put me on a "high horse"? I'm in no way saying I'm better than anyone, I'm just saying I don't like to be called a babysitter and I'm not the only one in this profession that feels that way.

earthmomma 4 years, 7 months ago

No one referred to you as a baby sitter in a derisive manner. You must have a chip on your shoulder. Ok, so you take care of kids in your house. Big deal. Why do you need to hide behind some fluffed up title?

Sheila Hooper White 4 years, 7 months ago

No chip here. No sure how I offended you. I was agreeing with the comment that cjandrun made. I'm not hiding behind anything. Who said I needed a title? I'm just saying I'm not a babysitter. I work very hard at what I do and am very proud of it. Is that so wrong? I've been blessed to see many children grow and learn. It's an amazing job and I love it. I'm just trying to figure out why you have the need to attack what I'm saying?

earthmomma 4 years, 7 months ago

You were offended because someone referred to daycare as babysitting, which it is. I mean, come on, be honest about it. Staying home with kids all day is noble of you, but it's not a profession, and you shouldn't get all bent out of shape at someone for calling it what it is. I'm not attacking you...I'm just trying to figure out why you need to have a title like "educator" when you're a babysitter. Really, I didn't mean to sound like I was attacking or being mean. I respect what you do!

Sheila Hooper White 4 years, 7 months ago

I'm not a babysitter. And I'm not the only home provider that would say that. I am an educator. I share a vital role in these children's lives and their learning. I have a daily schedule that I follow and we don't just sit and play all day. We learn. I run my home day care just like a center would so I believe I deserve to be called an educator. I continue my learning outside of the time that children are in my home. I have classes that I take, I participate in programs that are offered. I have written grants to improve the care that I give these children. I put alot of time into my profession and so do many others who do this. It's sad that people don't see us as professionals because there are some of us who work very hard at what we do.

pace 4 years, 7 months ago

I was not denigrating the job of child care, teaching or yourself. I am sorry you feel that way. I just disagree with your definition of baby sitter. It is a homely word and I am sure you are being facetious when you say it means sitting on top of the child. I disagreed with the denigration and exclusion of the role of baby sitting. When one is entrusted with the care of someone's else's child it is a great responsibility.

I have never met a good babysitter whose work deserved to be denigrated.
I do not denigrate the profession of professional child care. I was disagreeing with your definition and dismissal of baby sitter.

Sheila Hooper White 4 years, 7 months ago

Yes....I don't really think baby sitting is sitting on babies. When I think of a babysitter, I think it's someone who you hire to come into your home for just a few hours.

I'm not offended just want others to realize it's not as easy as it seems. Most babysitters don't have contracts or have to be inspected by the state. Babysitters don't have to have a fire inspection nor are they required to have a certain number of hours of training. It's not as easy as some think.

Mandie Eutsler 4 years, 7 months ago

there is drop in daycare here in lawrence...

conservative 4 years, 7 months ago

There is no reason to close schools because of temperatures. The schools won't let the kids outside, and most kids have perfectly adequate coats. If a parent feels it is too cold then they can take it upon themselves to keep their kids home. School should only be closed for unsafe roads. closing for temperature is pointless as most of the kids will go outside and play in the snow on their day off.

Wendy magillicutty 4 years, 7 months ago

assuming, yet again, that the heaters stay functioning in the school and parents cars. Not to mention, it's a far cry from going outside and playing in their yard to getting to and from a destination away from home. Why do you think the NWS even puts out wind chill advisories?

Raiden 4 years, 7 months ago

"adequate" is the operative word. Too many kids who live in impoverished circumstances don't have the right kind of winter coats/hats/gloves/scarves/boots...i know because i help families with community resources to find winter apparel that is more than just adequate. as adequate is not good enough for this kind of weather...and many of those parents don't have the resources to have good winter clothing for their kids or themselves. Do not assume that there aren't poor families in our schools who do what they can with what they have.. ..even one cold kid is one too many.

middlemgmt 4 years, 7 months ago

Our neighborhood has not been plowed. I hope they get to it before we leave for school. We could get stuck trying to ger up our hill.

Jeff Plinsky 4 years, 7 months ago

For the two posters who believe kids have adequate coats, and temperature should not be an issue in closing schools:

Little kids who walk to school will no doubt leave home bundled up appropriately for a walk in sub-zero temps. However, if you have ever tried keeping a coat on an 8 year old for any length of time, you know that s/he may not arrive at school dressed the same way as when s/he left home. Frost bite occurs quickly, especially in little fingers, noses and ears.

Temperature is a perfectly valid reason for calling off school, and it is a perfectly valid reason for keeping kids home who otherwise have to walk.

Having said that, I certainly hope we have school tomorrow. I've got kids to teach, and these breaks are driving me batty.

middlemgmt 4 years, 7 months ago

One time my kid fell on the way to school and was soaking wet. The school called when he got there to have me bring a change of clothes. Just because they leave properly dressed does not mean they arrive properly dressed.

Wendy magillicutty 4 years, 7 months ago

that's awful! and what if he'd broken a limb or something. awful. I'm glad you were there to bring clothes.

CM101 4 years, 7 months ago

My Daughter Is 8 And She Keeps Her Coat On..She Hates Coats But Hates The Cold Too LOL ..I Think Its Toddlers That Don't Keep Their Coats On :P

YourItalianPrincess 4 years, 7 months ago

Lawrence does have drop-in child care. Go the website below and see what they have to offer. A truly wonderful place to take your kids. http://imaginechildcare.com

ForThePeople 4 years, 7 months ago

Just looked at this website, and on the homepage it says they close when Lawrence schools are closed due to inclement weather. This is a great resource to know about though, thanks for posting the link. I intend to pass it along to friends with young children.

Rae Smith Evans 4 years, 7 months ago

except that their website says they close when Lawrence schools close for inclement weather. That being said, as a stay at home mom, I will be keeping my kids at home tomorrow regardless of what the district decides. I don't want them outside with these windchills.

nascarmomma 4 years, 7 months ago

During inclement weather, Imagine closes when Lawrence schools are closed.

Sorry but this doesn't help if they also close when the schools close.

conservative 4 years, 7 months ago

Many states north of here have temperatures this low often and don't call school because of temps. fargo north dakota is expecting chills of -40 tomorrow and aren't closing because of temps. Again if you think it is too cold feel free to keep your kids home, but don't think that the schools should close for everyone.

Steve Jacob 4 years, 7 months ago

yes but north Dakota is used to much colder weather than we are.

Jamminalive 4 years, 7 months ago

There will be school tomorrow guys. The roads are all cleared.

Nick McCracken 4 years, 7 months ago

Well no one can say that for sure as wind chills will possibly keep people from going to school. By this I mean it may be so cold that bus engines will not start as they are diesel engines. But if it warms up by 6 A.M. tomorrow we should have school.

ForThePeople 4 years, 7 months ago

"The roads are all cleared." Lucky you, I haven't seen a plow on my hilly road since the snow started. That being said, I will walk the kids to school tomorrow if need be. I personally don't think they should be out due to temps....just wish I could navigate my street.

JovianaRex 4 years, 7 months ago

Really? So the two foot deep buried cul-de-sac off of Legends Circle must have imaginary snow!??...and all around Legends Circle too!!...oh boy!...."Yes, Virginia, there IS a Santa Claus!"

greywolf85203 4 years, 7 months ago

really they are saying county roads aren't that is the county's job I would like the see district staff try to navigate a bus on snow packed icey roads but nobody thinks about those roads do they? And no my road isn't cleared no where near!

Kylee Manahan 4 years, 7 months ago

You are probably right that the schools will be open, but I have to disagree on the roads. Sure the main drags are clear with exception of downtown. Vermont is horrible and slippery.

Jamminalive 4 years, 7 months ago

Idk maybe they should just cancel on days that are in the negative for the little ones.

measles 4 years, 7 months ago

I think maybe some people who think the schools should be open in this temperature forget that buses don't run to all (most?) Lawrence elementary schools. I am ready to send my kiddo back to school, and if it's open tomorrow I know he will get there safe and warm, but we should remember that not everyone can drive their kids to school and some have to walk.

HRCJJ 4 years, 7 months ago

Driving by Sunflower/Southwest today and they didn't even start to clear the sidewalks. Some of the neighborhoods over here haven't even seen a plow yet either.

Jamminalive 4 years, 7 months ago

Don't you suppose though that if you already have to walk everyday you have all the snow gear to do it in...just saying.

alpha 4 years, 7 months ago

not exactly true. some of us are not so well set with money. I myself have the jacket and teh gloves. nothing else that is ready for snow. and tomarrow I will have to walk a block an a half through 7 inch snow filled sidewalks, down a block of snow and ice packed side road and wait for 10 minutes in the negative windchills.

Staci Dark Simpson 4 years, 7 months ago

Its kind of a double standard that kids can't play outside if the wind chill is below 15 but are expected to walk to school in colder temps. Lawrence is notorious for not cancelling when everyone else does though so please send your kiddies with appropriate cold weather gear and stress how important it is to leave it on until in the building.

mommydaycare 4 years, 7 months ago

Can someone please make a decision, parents do work and have to make plans. Why does Lawrence always have to wait until the last minute??????

notyourmom 4 years, 7 months ago

I agree!! It's awful to get the call at 6 a.m. telling you to replan your day. And one night the message said, "Sorry for the late notification but we were having technical difficulties..." Seriously!?! Call the local media; they'll get the word out. I've seen them do it.

Rae Smith Evans 4 years, 7 months ago

they are freaking out over having to make up time. I bet there is school tomorrow, however dangerous the temps might be.

Steve Jacob 4 years, 7 months ago

Plus, the school board is looking how much making up time will cost.

momoftoomany 4 years, 7 months ago

I understand that the kids need to be in school but I think it's too cold also at this point. Why doesn't the school district look at a late arrival - a couple of hours in the morning would make a big difference in the temps. Right now, my husband is trying to dig out the end of our driveway where the city trucks pile 2.5 feet of snow and the temp is -1 w/ a wind chill of -15! What's it going to be like in the a.m.?

Wendy magillicutty 4 years, 7 months ago

I thnk late arrival or 1/2 day is a great idea. I think that bosses are only more understanding if people call in because schools are closed, not just because I want to keep my kids safe. I think that waiting until 9 or even 10 o'clock at night to find out which story to tell the boss or which childcare to secure is a PIA and 497 always does that; KU is worse. Bosses don't wanna wait to hear from their employees at 10pm either way. Lastly, I believe all of society is ridiculous to ever place safety ahead of anything work or school related, especially employers. Just ask yourself, what is sofa king important over life itself?!

unklemonkey 4 years, 7 months ago

way too cold, and i lost count of how many residential streets are still not plowed. close the schools, safety first.

Fredmandu 4 years, 7 months ago

"Why doesn't the school look at late arrival?" Because that would make too much sense.

Olathe, KCK, KCMO, Blue Valley, Shawnee Mission as well as all the smaller, surrounding districts are out tomorrow, taking their students' welfare into account. So what if additional time needs to be tacked on to the end of some school days or even, heaven forbid, add one day in the springtime?

Keep your children at home when it's dangerously cold --like tomorrow.

independent_rebel 4 years, 7 months ago

Johnson County schools are always all out or all in. They decide as a county.

swksgirl 4 years, 7 months ago

KCK was already going to be closed anyway for a family advocacy day....so sorry that kind of blows your logic on that one. My god people!! When I was little we went to school when it was cold, I am so sick of the whining and crying on here. Take care of YOUR children and let other people worry about their own, and if they don't then there is this thing called mandated reporting.

notyourmom 4 years, 7 months ago

Jo Co schools are not out today. In Jo Co the school buildings are warm, and they understand that their buildings may be warmer than some children's homes, and that some parents really need those free and reduced meals for their kids. Add to that the possibilities of frozen pipes and other weather related issues that families are dealing with. They understand that they have an obligation to the families (and children!) that attend in their district.

Jamminalive 4 years, 7 months ago

Everybody I talked to has said there is school tomorrow due to the fact that the streets are plowed in Lawrence, I know somebody in Perry who just told me the streets are clear, a relative in N Lawrence ditto, along with a friend who lives out by Clinton lake. Has anybody heard of scarves these days? or is it easier to shelter your child because you guys don't feel like going to work? I believe in education.

jayhawk1066 4 years, 7 months ago

I dare you to go stand outside tomorrow at 7am (when the actual temp will be -8, but will feel like -20) for ten minutes. Then imagine that you only have 1/3 of your body mass. See if you think a scarf will help then.

Jamminalive 4 years, 7 months ago

My mother is older is most likely older than you and was shoveling the driveway this morning. Without a scarf, and no it won't feel that bad. Buck up guys.

jayhawk1066 4 years, 7 months ago

I wasn't talking about your mother, I was talking about you. You go stand outside tomorrow.

Jamminalive 4 years, 7 months ago

I will, I will when I walk to my car, drive to the library, drive to school :) walk downtown and such. But this time I'll make it out to you.

mom_of_three 4 years, 7 months ago

I was out for 10 minutes shoveling this morning and that was long enough. it didn't feel as bad as it was.
Tonight, I was out for 10 minutes, pushing the car out of the drive way and I was frozen. A scarf will help, but it won't be the only layer you need. I feel sorry for the little kids walking tomorrow

tecuani 4 years, 7 months ago

LOL you live at home with your mom, and you are telling people to buck up. Get a job.

Nick McCracken 4 years, 7 months ago

To be frank with you I think there will be school tomorrow and great thats fine with me, but the problem is the windchill and that is why parents are saying that school should be called off for tomorrow. Also if you were a scarve that is only going to cover your neck not your hands which are needed to write and type. Even wearing gloves doesnt always solve the problem since air generally seeps through most average american owned gloves. Also if you are thinking that people are just wanting school to be called so they can get out of work, I would have to say that is a huge misunderstanding on your part. One because not working for a day = on average around 200-300 dollars lost in your income, which means less money to use on bills and food or miscellaneous items. So to make it simple, if school is called off hooray and rejoice for whomever wanted another day. And if school isnt called off well then I could really care less and honestly I do like to learn as well. As for parents, unless if your car cant start I say you should go to work so you can earn some more money and help support your family or yourselves.

Jamminalive 4 years, 7 months ago

yeah, I agree, but I usually use a scarf hold it while it's wrapped on my neck in front of my face to keep out the cold air.

JovianaRex 4 years, 7 months ago

Oh yeah? Well, I believe in Santa Claus....On the other hand....Maybe I'll try a scarf on the imaginary snow out there, so my pitiful 06 Civic can take flight over hill and dale as the crow flies, all the way to ...what was that about believing? Oh yeah, scarves might help with the cul-de-sac 2-foot deep snow clearance....for school transportation, responsibility, civilization continuing, etc... ....On the other hand, water is water and east is east and west is west and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Now, uh, now....you tell me what YOU know....

Jamminalive 4 years, 7 months ago

Wow, you might wanna get a little help with how you get places. You take a scarf and it prevents cool air from freezing your lungs. Just saying, but your statement wasn't relevent in prooving a point.

kaybray95 4 years, 7 months ago

Maybe you should get your facts straight. You obviously don't have a small child that will be walking in the -20 degree weather tomorrow morning. You also live in some delusional world where your little magical scarf is going to solve the problem. Us regular people want to know where you got such a nifty invention! I don't know why you have this arogant attitude, but you better be careful, we wouldn't want it to freeze off ;)

JovianaRex 4 years, 7 months ago

Everybody I talked to has said there is school tomorrow due to the fact that the streets are plowed in Lawrence, I know somebody in Perry who just told me the streets are clear, a relative in N Lawrence ditto, along with a friend who lives out by Clinton lake. Has anybody heard of scarves these days?

This was a quote from you (Jamminalive) regarding scarves....neither you nor kaybray95 connect to what replies are referring to, and kaybray.....i was quoting Groucho Marx, it was a joke and probably you didn't get it.

gmill 4 years, 7 months ago

I believe in little children not getting sick from the cold.

greywolf85203 4 years, 7 months ago

I do too but honestly are the kids going to be focuses or are they going to be wound up with no outlet because we wont be able to go outside for recess all day??? Honestly put yourself in a teachers shoes trying to teach with the children that see all the snow and can't go out. And I don't know about other schools but there are some where the heaters are less than stellar some teachers have purchases space heaters to stay warm! I have been to a few schools and seen children still in their coats because the rooms are cold...... budget cuts do not allow for many repairs.

alpha 4 years, 7 months ago

Oh please. I live in east lawrence. 15th street is still ice and snowpacked. the sidewalks, still coated with good 6 inches of snow for several blocks. and I have to walk through it with no other way to my bus stop.

samtheman101 4 years, 7 months ago

With the projected wind chills sitting at -20 and most residential streets untouched, I think the smart option would be to close school. It's just one more day. However, this is Lawrence. There will be school. Dr. Doll doesn't seem to have a whole lot of common sense about this stuff. No doubt, people will make it work. But a two hour late arrival would solve it.

Staci Dark Simpson 4 years, 7 months ago

Maybe he is from Antarctica or Minnesota, this would seem like a walk in the park.

Wendy magillicutty 4 years, 7 months ago

Hahaha jamminalive you clearly don't have kids if you think staying home for days at a time with them is what we prefer.

Jamminalive 4 years, 7 months ago

I live in the country...with a half a mile driveway..I walked to go get the mail..and no I'm not saying you prefer that, I just thought that was what you were implying.

Wendy magillicutty 4 years, 7 months ago

oh so you made it safely down a 1/2 mile driveway...not quite the same as transporting children to school now is it?

notyourmom 4 years, 7 months ago

You let your elderly mother shovel a 1/2 mile driveway!?! Without a scarf!? You sound like a real champ. We should all definitly take advice from you. Go on to school now, sweetie. The real world has much to teach you.

Rae Smith Evans 4 years, 7 months ago

why would you not want to be with your kids? I live to be with mine. I only have a few short years before they are grown and out of my home. I would rather spend time with my children than do about anything else.

Wendy magillicutty 4 years, 7 months ago

Ok you're right, I dont love my kid. She's been in school approximately 10 days since the second week of december. we've had PLENTY of bonding time. I'll send her to your house. In a scarf.

Wendy magillicutty 4 years, 7 months ago

and, I might add, I was the one that posted that endangering ourselves or kids for school or work is ridiculous. And I think it is lovely that you prefer nothing but spending time with your kids. Really, I do. You stick with that.

amrose42683 4 years, 7 months ago

I find it laughable that people are commenting about how Lawrence streets are all clear, and especially from those that don't even live hear and are going by what someone told them. Those people that told you Lawrence streets are clear are probably just looking out their window at their own. We're still under a foot of snow on my street. So while my driveway is clear the chances of my Sedan actually getting off this street is slim to none. I don't mind if the kids have school tomorrow as long as I can get mine there in a warm car that is safe to drive in cuz I'll be d@mned if I'm walking my five year old to school in these cold temps.

Staci Dark Simpson 4 years, 7 months ago

I imagine attendance will be slim tomorrow. I have heard many friends in Lawrence say their roads aren't clear maybe they are working on it overnight?

avaholic 4 years, 7 months ago

They could still call it in the morning

ohmylawrence 4 years, 7 months ago

My street still not cleared. If the windchill is what they say its going to be, my 11 yr old and 5 yr old will not be going to school. Even with a scarf thats hard on their lungs. Not to mention that even if we walk its still a mile to the school. My car is stuck and people are having to park at the end of our street. Just not worth it. Education is important but their health and well being is more important. im good with cutting spring break short for make up days. I just want them to be safe and healthy. To the one who posted saying that their friend told them the streets are clear. I agree the MAIN streets are good. However, the residential streets are no where near clear and it takes time for the city to get to these streets. They cant work 24 hours. Thats not safe for them. I know they are doing their best. I now am doing my best as a parent to make a call of keeping them home tomorrow.

Sheila Hooper White 4 years, 7 months ago

Actually they do work all night. They have 2 shifts that rotate. Each shift works 12 hours. If you live on a dead end street or in a cul-de-sac you will probably be one of the last streets cleared. They have a certain order they go in. My parents have lived in the same place for over 30 years and they were always the last to be plowed b/c they live at the bottom of a dead end street. I've never heard them complain. I only remember 1 time we couldn't get up the street and that was many many years ago.

Show a little respect for the street crews. I'm sure they would much rather be in their nice warm homes with their families then out plowing streets.

ohmylawrence 4 years, 7 months ago

Oh I wasnt showing disrespect. Sheila. I totally commend them. I know they do their best.

Sheila Hooper White 4 years, 7 months ago

It's just hard to see people come on here and say they're not doing their jobs. I do realize some know how hard these guys work. My husband used to be on the street crew and some of the stories he would tell me about people throwing stuff at the trucks, yelling and screaming at the drivers. It's crazy.

I just want people to see it doesn't pay to complain and that we should be happy with what we have. Heck alot of the people in rural communities still can't get out. I also meant no disrespect. It's hard to see that in posts:)

Wendy magillicutty 4 years, 7 months ago

hey! don't forget to show your kids the trick of throwing hot water in the air and watch it freeze.

Nick McCracken 4 years, 7 months ago

That would be fun to do, just make sure its over your lawn and not your street or driveway. We don't need to move anymore snow than what we have already done.

Kylee Manahan 4 years, 7 months ago

As far as the Weather Channel is concerned, at 7a.m. the temp should be -9 with a wind chill of -19. We have big warmup at 8a.m., the temp is supposed to -8. Whew! I have worked on those buses and if the temp is -9 then so is the inside of the bus until kids fill them up.

JMH716 4 years, 7 months ago

Do they typically make their decision the night before? Or could they make a decision at, say, 6:00 tomorrow morning?

Rae Smith Evans 4 years, 7 months ago

They could easily call it at 6 am. I truly hope they do. I see way too many kids walking to and from school to think they could possibly be ok in those dangerous temps.

kernal 4 years, 7 months ago

Someone commented that it will cost the school district money if schools aren't open tomorrow. Not sure I understand that. I would think they would save money by having the schools empty so they can keep the thermostat lower. They could make up a day by delaying Spring Break or add it at the end of Spring Break.

measles 4 years, 7 months ago

JMH, I got a 5:45 a.m. call that school was cancelled on one of the earlier snow days. If they do cancel in the morning, they try to do so by 6 a.m. But it's not like the -19 windchill will be a surprise at that point like the earlier snow days were.

fearsadness14 4 years, 7 months ago

everyone grow up and walk to school. In Minnesota, some of the kids here have never had snow days before... and they are about to graduate from HIGH SCHOOL. A little cold never killed anyone. at least, anyone worth their weight in salt. anyone ever heard of the darwin awards? anyone struggling in these temps deserves to be sat down and removed from society. it isn't cold until fuel freezes. -40 please.

Nick McCracken 4 years, 7 months ago

And I'm sure your telling us you can go out there in some pretty average clothing without being frozen, while having to walk up to a mile and a half to school. Please come back and tell me otherwise once you have done so in -40 temps with horrendous windchills.

Bobbi Walls 4 years, 7 months ago

Way to go Lawrence...it's only -15 outside. Way to think of those kids and not the bottom line... seriously, what is one more day?

Sheila Hooper White 4 years, 7 months ago

I'm sorry to disagree but I think they should be in school. Yes....it's cold. That's why they make hat, gloves, scarves, etc. And before anyone says your child doesn't have to wait on the bus or gets a ride to and from school.....you are wrong. She does get a ride there but b/c of my business I can't pick her up. She will be walking home and I will be sure to remind her to bundle up good b/c it's cold. Does this really make me such a bad parent?? I don't think so. If you don't want you child out in this then keep them at home. Some people don't have that luxury and need to get back to work.

I run a daycare out of my home and I've had children everyday this week. I could of closed but parents have to work. If they can get their child to me they are more then welcome to bring them.

And the complaining about the snow plows. Again I think anyone that complains should have to ride with this guys on one of the shifts. It's not easy. They are working as quickly as possible. They made it down my street at about 3:30 last night and guess what buried the end of my driveway. And no my husband doesn't just shovel I also help. So I got my shovel and went back out and cleaned up the drive. Whoop de do.......come on people really, where else is the snow to go??. Heck we're running out of room in our driveway.

I wish everyone would stop complaining and help eachother out!!!

CM101 4 years, 7 months ago

Its Hard To Walk In Snow And Ice :) But Today We Got A Ride. Thank Goodness There Are People Out There Willing To Help Out. Unfortunately Some Aren't So Fortunate. I Hope This Will Be a Lesson Learned To Have A Second Option..And Be Prepared. And Be Prepared To Shovel A Second Time :P I Heard In Ottawa..No One Drove And They Couldn't Even Find The Streets!! So They Shoveled The Streets Manually Just To Look For Them :P But Lawrence Isn't Closed Today..Already Have To Make Up 3 Days And 2 Days They know To Make Up. They Reserved 2 Days ..Have Them Off When They Have No Snow Days And Use Them When They Use Snow Days. I Don't How That Is In Other Districts.

That's why they make hat, gloves, scarves, etc. <== which some don't have cause of the money situation and don't know of the free places..sometimes they don't even have them. maybe if we all want to help..w should have a coat gloves hat drive..people need to donate if they have too many. Or some don't have the ride to go there etc. To be honest it depends on the situation of each person. you can't condemn everyone that can't bring their kid to school and condemn people that can't shovel their driveway cause some can't afford shovels. we all know there needs to be education about these free places that no one cares to give and maybe they should give out free shovels or yes they could ask a neighbor..hoping the neighbor is kind enough to lend it to them.

I agree with everyone needs to help each other out..people are too afraid to these days unfortunately.

Sheila Hooper White 4 years, 7 months ago

I'm not condemning anyone. I also can't help out everyone. I'm sorry if people don't have these things. That doesn't mean that the kids can't be in school today. If you have the option keep your kids at home, some people don't have that option and need to get back to work. Everyone just wants to complain when we should be thankful for what we have. So you had to shovel 5 times, some people don't have a safe place to sleep tonight. So is shoveling really that bad? Just trying to say life really isn't that bad.

aha 4 years, 7 months ago

jeezus people. if you think it is too dangerous (cold) to send your kids to school today, DON'T SEND THEM! it is ultimately your choice.

stop complaining, turn off those alarms, & go back to bed.

Bobbi Walls 4 years, 7 months ago

Is it considered excused or unexcused if you keep your kids home due to weather?

kernal 4 years, 7 months ago

As long as you notify the school, it should be an excused abscence given the circumstances. It's still minus 12 outside, but at least there's no windchill.

HRCJJ 4 years, 7 months ago

I believe that with the new policy change it will be considered unexcused.

Rae Smith Evans 4 years, 7 months ago

If you read the district's website, you will see that it clearly stated "If schools remain in session, parents may keep their children at home for health and safety reasons. Please notify your child's school of this decision."

CM101 4 years, 7 months ago

Maybe We As Parents Should Look Out For Each Other And If One Parent Can't Do It. Another Should Offer Or The Other Parents Should Call On Another To Give Rides If They Can. Parent Carpool :)

dogsandcats 4 years, 7 months ago

I just want to know why you are capitalizing every word.

jlparker86 4 years, 7 months ago

im sure in parts of the country where its negative forty wind chill they dont have such bad budget cuts that a majority of kids have to find their own way to school. some families dont have money for a vehicle to get their kids to school. some families dont have money to get their kids adequite clothes for this weather. some parents dont have the luxury of having a job to where they can take off everytime their kid is lef off school. some parents dont have the luxury of having the extra money to give to a baby sitter or a drop in center. a mix of this, the bus system cuts, and the city not making sure the roads are clear so people who dont have vehicles that can get around makes sure someone is bound to be screwed. did i read correctly that downtown wasnt plowed yet? haha that makes me laugh knowing that our citys focus was somewhere other than downtown first. i dont have kids but i know several people who do. and some of those kids have to walk in this. so as caring citizens parents should talk to one another and try to work out a system to where you can help eachother out and make it to where no ones kids have to walk by people giving other kids rides to school too. and to the teacher who said what are we supposed to do with them cause we cant send them to recess, when i went to woodlawn if we couldnt go to recess, we would have freetime is the classroom where we could play board games, color, talk, read etc. or classes took turns going to the gym and playing.

Rae Smith Evans 4 years, 7 months ago

LIKE! This forum really needs a like button.

Wendy magillicutty 4 years, 7 months ago

For those who are lucky enough to have a job in this fierce employment market, it is probably threatened by the slightest attendance issue and there are 100 people wanting their job. Attendance is the easiest way to fire an employee because it is the easiest to track and report. Folks can fair better w bosses and teachers if there is an OFFICIAL school closing. That is why those people are clamoring for official word and do not have the LUXURY of "just staying home if you think it's too dangerous for your kids." They have the difficult and sometimes heart wrenching task of choosing job/school to take care of their kids over the long haul. Berating them is downright mean. They may or may not have a vehicle up to your standards of reliability, tire tread, engine condition or even HEAT production. These people will be concerned when their streets or driveways are not sufficient to leave. GOD FORBID they're turned in for not shoveling. Unless you can see their street, drive or vehicle, you do not SEE the position they are in. A rational person with empathy can try to understand their circumstances. On the subject of "it ain't that dangerous out there for your kids, you're raising weaklings." What decade are you from and how did you attain this jackwagon perspective? The argument simply does not stand. Those who are acclimated and routinely in -40 degrees likely have better clothing and vehicles to handle the seemingly normal conditions. I'm sure you've done research to see just how often they close their schools/businesses due to these conditions before passing judgment on those who think -14 degrees might be dangerous to their children. Those accusing me of not wanting to spend time with my children because I am encouraged to see my child getting reasonably safe transportation to school: I suggest that you are acclimated to extensive time spent with your child/ren, happy being home, and feel comfortable attending to their education needs. Fantastic. Why then do you care if schools are closed or not? Judging me because I value the time I can work, study, clean, ENJOY SILENCE and the superior ability of the quality teachers my child will encounter is silly. I am darn near jealous that you can do it. I do not have the patience or education tools to do so day after day after day after day.....you can raise your child any way you want, within reason, and I can raise mine similarly. I'm sure attending school nor home schooling are classified as torture or bad parenting.
For those who have taken the time to read this and find enlightenment, new access to empathy or at least have actively used reason, huzzah! Doesn't that feel more natural than judging and hazing others like some school yard bully? Incidentally, I had to walk to school, up hill ONE way because there wasn't funding for bussing when I started school. It sucked and I got a ride from the neighbor every chance I got.

overthemoon 4 years, 7 months ago

some good points well presented. i appreciate your frustration and applaud your being able to articulate it clearly. Asking for empathy around here is sort of a losing game. Most will confuse it with sympathy, for which you a clearly not asking.

Wendy magillicutty 4 years, 7 months ago

I completely understand the trolls will not get it. I was hoping to reach the sentient beings.

Sheila Hooper White 4 years, 7 months ago

Well said. I've always wondered why the name calling has to happen. I sometimes have a hard time putting how I feel into words. I may come across as a bullying or being mean but that's not how I meant it.

Help out your neighbors it actually makes you feel good.

Wendy magillicutty 4 years, 7 months ago

ha! I'm sure attending school nor home schooling are NOT classified as torture or bad parenting...although some parts of the world may take issue with it.

pace 4 years, 7 months ago

. If you have trained your kids in sub zero weather techniques and if you can trust them to follow the safety rules and if they have appropriate layers and if it is a short walk, That is a lot of ifs. Know that hypothermia kills, frostbite can happen fast and causes permanent damage. The people at greatest risk are children and the elderly. (by the way 50's should not be considered elderly). Some of the factors are the weight of the child and the circulatory system of the elderly. People die from hypothermia every year, no one plans to.

While we have good weather reports, they are not perfect and they are general. Pockets of wind and moisture can increase the wind chill factor. A good example is walking into the wind rather than with your back to the wind.

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