Letters to the Editor

Tennis lights

February 2, 2011

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To the editor:

Although the headline read “Neighbors volley concerns,” what actually happened Thursday night was that the tennis players hit a winning volley. Of the 75 in attendance, about 65 were tennis players.

The fact is that the proposal meets the requirements of the Land Development Code, Section 20-1103.

The city has already granted variances for other sports’ lights. Variances allowed 90-, 75- and 65-foot tall poles for baseball, football, soccer and softball. The tennis court lights will not require a variance, because they meet the 60-foot maximum allowed in 20-1103.

We have been without lights for two years. Tennis is currently the fastest growing sport in America. We invite everyone to come and play because we are a friendly bunch.

The neighborhood however, doesn’t seem so friendly. The church has numerous signs telling people to stay out of their parking lot. Fences have been installed to make sure no one walks to a baseball game from 22nd Street. We have been loudly accused of cursing. There are more sounds of joy and camaraderie coming from those courts than profanity.

There is no connection between drainage issues and tennis lights. Taxpayers have spent $3 million on drainage projects in this neighborhood to bolster property values. There is no proof that proximity to recreational facilities decreases home values.

It is good that the city listens to the neighbors, but it must not kowtow to a small vocal group. Do what is best for the most people and least expensive for the taxpayers.

Comments

beaujackson 4 years, 6 months ago

None of the supporters for tennis court lights live next to the courts.

If lights are installed, they should go off at 9:30, and a sound barrier constructed to protect neighbors.

Better yet - only light the courts at Freestate HS.

Glo 4 years, 6 months ago

I was also at the meeting, Please read my perspective in Readers Blogs in the Opinion Section.

classclown 4 years, 6 months ago

"Do what is best for the most people and least expensive for the taxpayers."

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I think you just canceled out the rest of your letter with that last sentence.

Not that I care about whether or not the lights are installed, but it seems to me that the least expensive option would be to not install the lights. Which in turn would be best for most people since taxpayers would fall under that category.

Kay Pettit 4 years, 6 months ago

The Parks and Rec dept has had the money saved up since 2009 from a State Alcohol Fund.

Kay Pettit 4 years, 6 months ago

What we meant by that is that we don't want the City to construct another set of courts. We do not need more courts, we only need lights. We need the City and the School District to partner to save money and not have redundant facilities.
I suppose we could shut down all recreational facilities using your logic. The majority of people do not ride bikes, or plays softball, etc. either.

deec 4 years, 6 months ago

No you don't "need" lights. You need air, food, water and shelter from the elements. If you think lighted tennis courts are such a swell idea, please take out a business loan and built your own. Perhaps you can build your house on the same property and enjoy the benefits you'd like this established neighborhood to enjoy. The neighbors were there first. And I live in another state so I have no personal stake in this issue..

Richard Heckler 4 years, 6 months ago

Organized thoughts by GLO

http://www2.ljworld.com/weblogs/lighting-of-the-new-tennis-courts/2011/feb/1/new-tennis-courts-on-gree/

======================================== The cost of this entire sports facility fiasco may never pay back the taxpayer. $20 million is tough to make up in addition to the ongoing increase in the maintenance/operations budget. This fiasco = a tax increase in perpetual motion.

Our elementary schools should have been maintained with this money and the taxpayers should have been consulted at the voting booth.

This USD 497 Task Force advisory group now meeting together are discussing a plan that involves consolidating two elementary schools into one building. And there is talk of a bond issue.

Where are the buildings that can house students from two schools?

Will USD 497 close schools then build new buildings?

How will the children get to school? More bus and/or more driving for parents?

The large question: Will taxpayers be consulted at the voting booth this time?

We taxpayers need to be paying close attention to this questionable situation.

gl0ck0wn3r 4 years, 6 months ago

Random hypothetical questions are random.

Just curious Merrichard, what are your connections to Sven's campaign? Also, how many kids do you have in public schools at the moment?

Richard Heckler 4 years, 6 months ago

classclown hit the nail on the head.

"Do what is best for the most people and least expensive for the taxpayers." Forget the lights per request of the Lawrence Tennis Assoc.

Most people don't play tennis. In fact the majority of people likely do not indulge in sports activities.

Obviously there was NOT enough public or technical discussion regarding this overall sports facility project. This is looking more like a never ending money hole.

Judgesmails 4 years, 6 months ago

"In fact the majority of people likely do not indulge in sports activities. "

maybe thats why our country is so fat ?

dont be afraid to step away from your computer, slim.

gl0ck0wn3r 4 years, 6 months ago

Most people don't use the T or the library and yet you were all for tax increases to fund those pet projects. You are a hypocrite.

pinecreek 4 years, 6 months ago

What a self-serving LTE--'screw the neighborhood, put the lights up for (me, us, my kids...). Amazing that we can set aside money for something like this during a very difficult economic period. When does does this stop? When do we get back to basics?

rockchalker52 4 years, 6 months ago

The improvements at LHS are a good thing. The lights would be fine. Ten o'clock in the evening turn-off is not unreasonable. The high school grounds have been there for 50-plus years. What, did people think the grounds would never be utilized to their fullest extent?
That's like moving to the country next to a farmer & telling him not to plow his field.

And don't give me this nonsense about star gazing. Watching the stars in the city limits is an exercise in futility at best. Besides, in the spring & summer, it doesn't get dark enough much before ten o'clock to see anything anyway. Light 'em up. And, no, I haven't played tennis in years.

jafs 4 years, 6 months ago

Inviting people to come play tennis is nice, but it's a bit like inviting people to your party and then not understanding why they might complain about the noise if it's too loud.

And why should churches let you park in their parking lots if you're coming to play tennis?

BruceWayne 4 years, 6 months ago

why do you refuse to admit that you do not own a home or any other property in the city of Lawrence? why do you refuse to admit you are not a licensed architect? when you decided to run for public office, did you kind of figure your past would be brought up?

deec 4 years, 6 months ago

Why does property ownership matter? Don't renters have the right to the enjoyment of the homes in which they reside?

gl0ck0wn3r 4 years, 6 months ago

Lolz. I thought you decided to sign off and stop posting again.

Flap Doodle 4 years, 6 months ago

Hey, look who's back after swearing just a couple of days ago that he was leaving this forum! Shout Liar! Shout drainage! Shout Astroturf!

Flap Doodle 4 years, 6 months ago

"i have decided to leave the forum. goodbye. i am signing out. SVEN January 29, 2011"

Flap Doodle 4 years, 6 months ago

"i have decided to leave the forum. goodbye. i am signing out. SVEN January 29, 2011"

gl0ck0wn3r 4 years, 6 months ago

Sven is concerned he might have more balls flying at his face.

Robert Tryanski 4 years, 6 months ago

Of course the one real point of contention from the neighbors is the one that LTA and the city completely ignore. They're not worried about pole heights. They're worried about light levels. The city's best estimate is that the light levels will fall somewhere between 7 and 11 footcandles. The requirements for the football and softball fields were .2

In case you missed it, let me repeat that. The footcandle readings will be 7-11 footcandles, not .7- 1.1, as bright as it is indoors with the lights on.

Why did the city require such strict specs for the HS athletic fields and limit the number of days per year for Football and softball and now propose something truly outrageous that neighbors will have to put up with seven nights a week instead of seven nights a year? Could it be that city officials are a bunch of unimaginative hypocrites?

If LTA is serious about a compromise, they would be open to having the courts lit at Free State. People who are too lazy and selfish to get in their cars and drive two miles are unreasonable. They don't deserve to be accommodated. Oh, and here's a question: why does the city have to pay to light the courts? Most real tennis players are like golfers. They pay a user fee for the privilege of taking up so much space for such a silly game.

The price tag to taxpayers to support this little band of 50 self righteous people? $150,000 That's about $30,000 per LTA member. Nice work LTA!

This is not about schools. HS Tennis does not have night games. This is not about kids. There wasn't a kid in the audience on Thursday night. This is about self-centered, self-interested, adults who are too cheap to support their expensive sports habit. Try kickball LTA. Even they pay a user fee!

Stephen Roberts 4 years, 6 months ago

Actualli I saw four kids at the meeting. I would have brought my kids but I wasn't sure how long the meeting would last.

Right now Freestate only has five courts.... LHS has eight..... If you could guarantee the USD 497 would build three more courts at Freestate and include lights, then maybe some people would be willing to listen.

Just because someone said the district was going to build more courts at Freestate doesn't make it true.

gl0ck0wn3r 4 years, 6 months ago

Amusing. Can we run the T and the library on user fees as well?

Robert Tryanski 4 years, 6 months ago

Sorry, my math was wrong. It works out to $3,000 per LTA member.

classclown 4 years, 6 months ago

I never need lights to play tennis. If I want to play tennis at night, I do it the proper way. In the dark with flaming balls.

irvan moore 4 years, 6 months ago

so because the tennis club organizes a group to control a meeting that makes them right? i don't live by the tennis courts but am tired of the city and schools making deals with neighborhoods and then changing the rules. promise anything to get what you want and then come back for more. these people are arrogant, put a lit tennis court for the public next to their house.

classclown 4 years, 6 months ago

What if the lights were set up as paid lights? Install a coin acceptor on each light pole. Say 25 cents gives you half an hour of light.

Then the lights will only be on when the courts are actually in use and they can still be set up so they can't be used after a designated time.

svenway_park 4 years, 6 months ago

Petronius (Sven Alstrom) writes at January 28 at about 3:20 pm

"I have decided to leave the forum....goodbye....i am signing out....SVEN"

svenway_park 4 years, 6 months ago

“Sven Alstrom, a Lawrence architect who owns a home south of LHS, said he didn't object to the field proposals but said the project needs to include a properly engineered drainage system.” - LJW May 13, 2008

Flap Doodle 4 years, 6 months ago

"i have decided to leave the forum. goodbye. i am signing out. SVEN January 29, 2011"

Flap Doodle 4 years, 6 months ago

"i have decided to leave the forum. goodbye. i am signing out. SVEN January 29, 2011"

Kay Pettit 4 years, 6 months ago

Please give us the code reference number to which you keep referring for the 75 feet setback. I honestly cannot find it.

BruceWayne 4 years, 6 months ago

"Of the 75 in attendance, about 65 were tennis players."

65 more votes against Sven! Super!

We can't win with Sven.

gl0ck0wn3r 4 years, 6 months ago

Is there an "Elect Anyone But Sven" PAC yet?

irvan moore 4 years, 6 months ago

it's interesting that some posters believe people who live near schools should know there will be expansion and growth and that they gave up their rights to city protections. a lot of the people really thought that the elected officials and school boards would honor the codes that were in place to protect these residences. i don't think variances to benefit a chosen few should overide the rights of neighborhoods and the people of the community.

xclusive85 4 years, 6 months ago

As much as certain people have complained about Sven, he has done nothing to deserve the harassment he is receiving since coming back to the forum. The same post is on here 5 times about his decision to leave the forum. Please stop. I like to read what you have to post other than "Sven said he was leaving the forum". Please do it as a favor to the other users.

buffalo63 4 years, 6 months ago

Thank you xclusive85. These people who harass others could do us all a favor by letting us discuss the issue and taking their personal vendettas elsewhere!!!!

Flap Doodle 4 years, 6 months ago

"he has done nothing to deserve the harassment he is receiving since coming back to the forum." Sven earned his rep with the antics of all his previously banned identities on this forum. He sowed the wind and is now reaping the whirlwind.

xclusive85 4 years, 6 months ago

What specifically did he do? I wasn't here when he was being banned, if I was, I was not aware the banned user was Sven. Since he has come back, he has been civil and following the user agreement. Correct me if I am wrong.

jafs 4 years, 6 months ago

Really?

Then most posters should be removed, in my opinion.

BruceWayne 4 years, 6 months ago

I can email you copies of the threats he has made against me and my family. He deserves EVERYTHING he is getting here and worse.

Running for public office to serve his personal agenda. We can't win with Sven.

jafs 4 years, 6 months ago

If you have documentation of threats made, you can and should prosecute him for that.

BruceWayne 4 years, 6 months ago

I can email you copies of the threats he has made against me and my family. He deserves EVERYTHING he is getting here and worse.

Running for public office to serve his personal agenda. We can't win with Sven.

xclusive85 4 years, 6 months ago

Please do. I asked Whitney if she could divulge some info, but she declined. I still think that harassing him with the same post over and over is not doing any good.

Flap Doodle 4 years, 6 months ago

Shout whiney little sing-along-with-Mitch!

Salvia 4 years, 6 months ago

PLEASE! Must every discussion end with a discussion of Sven. For the sake of the discussion, please voluntarily remove yourself - and I am taklking to Sven and those who continue to try to" push his buttons." TIRESOME!

svenway_park 4 years, 6 months ago

oh pleeeaaaze. Mr. Alstrom has posted thousands of posts with his various identities, and he certainly has not be bounded by the truth or civility.

We are pleased he has stepped forward to run for public office, because it will allow us to confront him on a variety of topics including 1) his ethics while serving on the Historic Resources Board 2) his ethics as it regards his complaints against professional colleagues, especially those he has lost business to 3) his ethics in soliciting business 4) the history of the financial solvency of his business enterprises 5) his non-ownership of his home 5) his duplicitous actions associated with CNA, by involving them in a lawsuit illegally without consultation of the Association membership 6) his repeated lies on this board about the Lawrence development code..... the list goes on.

gl0ck0wn3r 4 years, 6 months ago

I am pretty certain that once you put yourself up for public office the test for libel becomes actual malice. Good luck with that.

gl0ck0wn3r 4 years, 6 months ago

That post makes no sense. You seem to say:

truth = not defamatory not truth = not defamatory

Truth is a clear defense against a defamation suit, but I don't pretend to be a lawyer. Unlike you, it seems, I have actual legal people to handle actual legal matters rather than threatening people with silly stuff.

You are running for public office and thus you have a higher hurdle to clear on a defamation case than someone who hasn't decided to place themselves in the public spotlight. The test is actual malice. Someone must knowingly make a false statement about you published with reckless disregard for the truth. If falsity was the test, Merrill would never be able to post.

Regardless, most of those questions seem to be exactly that - questions - and not factual statements.

svenway_park 4 years, 6 months ago

Actually, your response is exactly WHY my posts should remain.

Lets go through them Sven, one at a time. This post will be about my first point. Ethics while serving on the HRC.

You state that "no complaints were filed." Big whoop. I'm making a complaint here.

While serving on the HRC, you made public criticisms on this board (attempting to be anonymous) against a project being reviewed by the HRC, and the individual submitting the project (the Krause kitchen on Delaware).

You then sought to do business with the very same applicant and I believe did work for him/them on the very same house.

I call that sleezy and unethical.

jafs 4 years, 6 months ago

Not sure I get your point there.

  1. He argued against the proposal.
  2. When it passed anyway, he did business with the owner.

Ok.

jafs 4 years, 6 months ago

Thanks.

Either way it's ok with me.

Carol Bowen 4 years, 6 months ago

It's so easy to make demands for someone else's backyard. There doesn't seem to be any understanding or respect for people protecting their homes, their quality of life, and property values. How invasive. Might is right. Lousy values. Imagine building a sports complex in your own back yard. The facilities would be closer to home.

buffalo63 4 years, 6 months ago

As a former member of the church told me, the school district put up the signs after the parking lot was filled with people at a baseball game and church members could not park for the service being held at the same time. Parking lots are private property, just like your driveway. Businesses or churches provide them to be used by indviduals having business with the property owner. Anyone using it for another purpose (visiting a business next door or across the street or parking overnight, etc.) should expect it be removed (towed). Not any different than if I park in your driveway while I go play tennis or attend a party down the street. The fence was put up by the school district for crowd control to make sure spectators buy a ticket.

gphawk89 4 years, 6 months ago

"Do what is best for the most people..." Hmmm, let's see. Let's say that a large group of neighbors gets together and decides that it would be a great idea to flatten one of the homes in their neighborhood and use that land and the adjoining empty lot to create a neighborhood park. Many of the neighborhood kids would have a new place to play, but only one homeowner would be inconvenienced. Best for the most people, right? Kowtowing (hey, I learned a new word today) to a small group is completely appropriate when it's the small group of property owners adjacent to the courts. No matter how small.

"There are more sounds of joy and camaraderie coming from those courts than profanity." It would only take one instance of my 4yo hearing profanity in my own back yard for me to loudly complain.

"The church has numerous signs telling people to stay out of their parking lot." People using the church parking lot should be attending a church activity. Otherwise, park somewhere else. If nothing else, they're worried about liability issues.

jafs 4 years, 6 months ago

I'm not interested in hearing them shout happy things either, if I'm sitting in my living room in the evenings.

workinghard 4 years, 6 months ago

People living around Veterns Park have been having to deal with these very issues for years, including making kids come in to watch tv instead of playing outside because of a constant barrage of profanity. The lights are sometimes on past 11 pm, complete with profanity. Now we get to listen to events at the stadium. And guess what parents, those kids you drop off at LHS to attend these events don't always stay there. They are wandering the alleys, hiding behind fences and garages to smoke and make out.

svenway_park 4 years, 6 months ago

petronius (Sven Alstrom) says… "owning a house in trust is a way to bypass Probate Court inheritance issues"

And so would you owning your own house outright.

Why were you unable to purchase or obtain financing yourself for your house purchase? Do you want to start discussing your Colorado financial history yet?

Sure, continue to blame the moderators for your past abuse of this forum. They will really enjoy this.

jafs 4 years, 6 months ago

You know, I find this personal stuff a bit offensive.

Whether he owns his house or not is irrelevant to me, as are the majority of your questions/accusations.

As a candidate for city commission, I want to know what he sees as those responsibilities, how he feels about tax abatements, growth/sprawl, subsidizing downtown businesses, etc.

I won't cast my votes depending on how much money a candidate has or whether they own or rent.

jafs 4 years, 6 months ago

You're welcome.

But if they did, they'd have to get rid of a majority of posters on here.

svenway_park 4 years, 6 months ago

The last time I checked, honesty and credibility were two attributes deemed appropriate for public officials.

If you can't believe what comes out of their mouth, their stated positions on any of the issues jaf raises, are irrelevant.

Lets re-publish Mr. Alstroms postings as Cool, Ariadne, Spiderman, Coltrane, Rusty2, etc etc etc, so that the voters can judge for themselves.

jafs 4 years, 6 months ago

If you have documentation of dishonest statements, that would be useful and good information to have.

The rest of your attacks are irrelevant and offensive.

Please document any dishonesty on the part of S. Alstrom or any of his actual posting identities (of course, those would have to be proven as well) if you have it.

gl0ck0wn3r 4 years, 6 months ago

So, in other words, you don't own your home.

gl0ck0wn3r 4 years, 6 months ago

You, however, don't own any of it. Correct? In the Douglas County records it isn't listed to you.

jafs 4 years, 6 months ago

Why is this a pressing issue?

Lance Johnson owns his home, doesn't pay his taxes on time, defaults on loans, and tries to hide assets in order to avoid making good on the terms of the loans.

BruceWayne 4 years, 6 months ago

random thoughts...I am guessing that when Sven got himself disappearded he hadn't planned on running for office.( his dreadful stint on the Historic Board was an appointment) The fact that he doesn't own his home will not effect my vote, as it shouldn't. The attacks on myself and my family I never considered harmful.( have you met Sven?) Sven has shown that he can be a true follower, he has yet to display leadership skills. He has attacked several architect firms/ architects in this town. Many of those firms have current and pending projects that his posistion (if elected) could have a negative result. He throws a hissy and claims he is leaving this forum, only to post 2 hours later. Is this the type of behavior what this city really needs? I am going to try my best to stop the personal attacks on Mr. Alstrom and stick to the facts. I think Sven knew when they let him back on what he was up against, and I am guessing the REAL reason they did it was to let him defend himself. One thing that he has never denied was the FACT that he posted under many different screen names, and ended up disappearded. I would like for Sven himself to explain his actions at that time, and the reason HE feels he was banned. If it was because HWSNBN was pulling his strings so be it, I can live with that. Thank you for letting me share these thoughts.

gl0ck0wn3r 4 years, 6 months ago

This brings the lulz. How old are you?

jafs 4 years, 6 months ago

If he made documented threats, I'd like to see them.

I understand his not wanting to continue posting due to the personal attacks, and I also understand his thinking it through and concluding that this is a good venue for his candidacy.

If you have proof of posting identities and behavior that got him banned, please share that as well.

Otherwise, I'd like to stick to issues.

Katara 4 years, 6 months ago

I can tell you that one of the reasons he was banned under the username "bronze" was due to harassing PMs that continued even after being requested by moderators to stop.

The exact behavior was also under the username "ariadne".

Oh and the BS he is spouting about his house?

"Hello, The user ariadne sent the following message to you via LJWorld.com: ============================== i guess that you simply can't add two and two together. both statements are true. mom helped with better financing and she benefits from the deal with the 'face value' tax deduction since her trust is the owner of the mortgage.

who is the dumbdora here?

==============================" That is just one of the harassing PMs I received from him.

jafs 4 years, 6 months ago

Ok - thanks.

I'd be interested in what you posted that he was responding to as well.

Looks like a normal sort of "tit-for-tat" exchange on here to me.

And, again, I don't care whether he owns or rents, or what the financial situation is with his family - that's not important to me.

Katara 4 years, 6 months ago

Those were PMs that I received from him because I questioned him representing himself as the owner of the house he lives in.

He is not the owner but he still represents himself as such to the public.

I don't care if he owns or rents either. My concern is that he represents himself as something that he is not. He has no actual investment in the neighborhood. The monies used for the lawsuit were not his but he represented them as such. He represented himself in many of the threads about LHS as being one of the plaintiffs and a big player in negotiations when legally he could not have been.

You are, of course, free to ask Whitney and Jonathan to bring back all his old usernames so that you may view the threads yourself.

You can also go to the Centennial neighborhood and ask the neighbors what they think about Sven's involvement and actions.

Katara 4 years, 6 months ago

Oh & LJW confirms he had other usernames that were banned.

"wmathews (Whitney Mathews) replies…

See snap_pop_no_crackle's response directly below. Sven did out himself while using several of his former accounts. Outing a truly anonymous user is taken extremely seriously, and several accounts have been banned for doing just that. January 30, 2011 at 8:03 a.m."

Katara 4 years, 6 months ago

Yes. Which is why I re-posted that comment. Many of the usernames listed are his because he outed himself.

His banning was due to his behavior although he made attempts (incorrect ones at that) at outing Bearded_Gnome. He received a public warning from Jonathan Kealing for that.

Do you really want a public official who has no issue with harassing others? One that refuses to stop the harassment when requested to stop? One that has to be banned from a forum because they refuse to stop?

Katara 4 years, 6 months ago

They do exist. They are simply not displayed. But since you'd like to see them too, you've now given permission to Whitney and Jonathan to bring them back.

Katara 4 years, 6 months ago

My mistake. I read that as threads not threats.

However, Sven, you should give Whitney and Jonathan your express permission to bring back all your old usernames so that everyone can view the comments and threads they were involved in and make their own decision since they would then have full information about you.

If you stand behind what you said under those usernames, it should be perfectly fine by you to do so.

classclown 4 years, 6 months ago

I find it funny how Sven likes to address everybody as "anonymous poster" now as if he is better than everyone else because he is not anonymous when in fact he had no choice in the matter if he wanted to make comments here due to his abundance abuses as an anonymous poster under several user names for which he had been banned.

classclown 4 years, 6 months ago

I could never vote for Sven because he's a threader.

Anyone that participates in threading comments will never get my vote.

Flap Doodle 4 years, 6 months ago

"...Lets re-publish Mr. Alstroms postings as Cool, Ariadne, Spiderman, Coltrane, Rusty2, etc etc etc, so that the voters can judge for themselves..." Another vote for this. Shout full disclosure!

Flap Doodle 4 years, 6 months ago

I've got that on my work pc. I'll post it Monday.

jafs 4 years, 6 months ago

I would like to hear what S. Alstrom has to say about the accusations of bad behavior under a number of different names, and being banned from these forums in the past.

Are they true?

If so, what do you have to say about them today, as a candidate for city commission?

Katara 4 years, 6 months ago

I'd like to know why he claimed he was Roger Pine under username "ariadne".

"Hello,

The user ariadne sent the following message to you via LJWorld.com:

============================== katara - who are you talking about.

ariadne is Roger Pine and just moved back into town.

jafs 4 years, 6 months ago

So you stand by your history on this site?

Nothing there you'd change, or feel badly about today?

Katara 4 years, 6 months ago

Sven is being misleading, jafs. He is dodging your question.

His comment is referring to comment removals (which I do agree can be arbitrary on this forum) but his comment is not referring to his being banned multiple times for his behavior. He wasn't banned for posting link to other media or websites nor was he banned for re-posting text.

If what he says is true, then Merrill would always have comments removed and would have been banned by now.

Boston_Corbett 4 years, 6 months ago

Such a victim you are Sven.

Jonathan, who let you back on this forum numerous times, despite having been warned not to do so, certainly did you wrong, didn't he? Oh and Whitney too. They are so mean and cruel.

Now, why aren't you posting on threads talking about municipal issues (library parking, Dillons variances)?

Stop your whining about Jonathan and Whitney, man-up, and address the friggin issues, instead of crying on your keyboard. Sheeesh.

(Jafs, are you listening?)

jafs 4 years, 6 months ago

What's your point?

I've asked for documentation of his bad behavior - so far I haven't seen anything remotely unusual for this site, and I've seen a lot worse.

Who "warned" the moderators not to let him back?

svenway_park 4 years, 6 months ago

Jafs, I can not post comments of his which have been zapped from the site.

My point at the end of comment above is to note that Mr. Alstrom, at least as of now, has not posted on issue-oriented threads involving municipal issues. Isn't that why he wanted to re-join the forum?

jafs 4 years, 6 months ago

Please post any evidence you have.

So far there's been nothing out of the ordinary that I've seen.

Katara 4 years, 6 months ago

You find receiving harassing and continual PMs from someone who has been requested to stop not out of the ordinary?

jafs 4 years, 6 months ago

No.

But I've seen no proof that he did that.

Flap Doodle 4 years, 6 months ago

Some of the disappearededed identities were pretty okay with vandalism as long as the right property was being vandalized.

irvan moore 4 years, 6 months ago

i hope cromwell and corliss don't play tennis.

Katara 4 years, 6 months ago

"Hello, The user Jonathan Kealing sent the following message to you via LJWorld.com: ============================== Thanks for your note. I sent bronze an e-mail and told him that further abuse of the contact another user service would result in his account being banned and access via that account blocked. If you continue to get e-mails after telling him not to contact you, please do let me know.

Jonathan Kealing Online editor" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I'd like Sven to explain why he continued to contact people via the LJW system even though repeatedly requested by users and the moderators to cease & desist.

Flap Doodle 4 years, 6 months ago

I got a whole bunch of messages from cool/bronze/spideham after telling him to not do that any more. Wonder how many people he pulled that trick on?

gl0ck0wn3r 4 years, 6 months ago

I would like to know when the LJW will run background check a on the candidates. Also, I would like to know Sven's role in the Bush/Cheney banking debacle.

Boston_Corbett 4 years, 6 months ago

Mr. Alstrom: Why aren't you posting on threads talking about municipal issues (library parking, Dillons variances)?

Stop your continual whining about Jonathan and Whitney, man-up, and talk about the issues, instead of crying on your keyboard.

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