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Divisive plan?

April 19, 2011

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To the editor:

In his April 15 Saturday Column, Mr. Simons calls the president divisive.

The president proposes a $4 trillion deficit reduction over 12 years, half of it through spending cuts. Tax reforms and tax increases on the wealthy would provide half of the remainder, with interest savings, etc., providing the other half. No details yet, that’s true.

Paul Ryan proposed $5.8 trillion spending cuts, which would drastically slash Medicaid ($771 billion over a decade) and privatize Medicare, which does need fixing, but not his way. Seventy-plus percent of all the spending reductions would end up as tax cuts for the wealthy and for corporations and NOT targeted for deficit reduction.

Dick Cheney claimed that deficits don’t matter. They surely do now! But those who harp on the tired old “class war” argument (as Simons states Obama is doing) still seem to believe that, irrespective of how gargantuan the deficit is, we can simply “grow out of it” without increased revenues. And growth can only be accomplished by slashing the safety net under the poor and the lower middle class and shift more wealth to the very top. What happened to those jobs allegedly created by the Bush tax cuts? Did the economy not thrive after Clinton raised taxes in the mid-1990s?

Would Simons explain which of the two plans are more divisive?

Comments

zenmon 3 years ago

1) Cut the military budget by 80%, that means get out of the three wars we're in, close almost all bases outside of the US, close a lot of the bases in the US, cut back on our carrier battle groups, our standing army, etc. Eisenhower saw this coming and we didn't listen to him. 800 BILLION /yr? COME ON! 2) Raise the Social Security age to 70 for those under 55 now, not in ten years. 3) Get rid of all tax deductions and decrease tax rates based on that. 4) Everyone should pay taxes even if it's a dollar per year, we shouldn't have half the country paying taxes and the other half paying zero or in some cases getting money back. 5) Federal micromanagement of the states needs to stop and the federal government needs to be cut big time. Insert your pet program here and cut it. 6) Term limits. Career politicians are the ones making the tax code, spending money on pet projects, and becoming rich on a salary of ~$150,000 /yr. It just doesn't add up. 7) We're going to have to soak the rich to get out of this mess. A start would be raising the rate on the top earners back to those of Clinton and the Republican congress, adjusting based on #3. This shouldn't be about hating those that are successful, Taxation shouldn't be about punishment nor should it be about redistribution. If they are stealing, then that is where the punishment should come from. 8) Charitable organizations should be what helps the needy not the government. People should think twice or three times before asking for help. They should really need it not because it's available but because they are in trouble or their family is. Giving to those less fortunate is what makes America great not the taking by force of money to pay for those that are simply too lazy or repeat mistake offenders.

We expect our charities to use 90 percent of donations for the cause and 10 percent or less for bureaucracy, shouldn't we expect something close to that of our government?

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Jimo 3 years ago

80% of registered voters say "no thanks" to cuts in Medicare/Medicaid. 73% of registered Republicans say no. 70% of self-identified Tea Partiers (Republicans) say no.

And I'd guess most of these people haven't heard anything about these cuts other than the proponents description: a critical plan to control costs and deliver more choice to future retirees - every - single - word - a - lie.

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CountyResident 3 years ago

Gasoline, food and other commodies have skyrocketed because of Wall Street speculators, which Republicans don't want to regulate.

I am really getting tired of everyones new found interest in our national debt. It is as if President Obama created it all. Look at the increase in debt under Reagan & Bush. Even Donald Trump, a Tea Party favorite, has talked about the 1.4 trillion dollars Bush spent on the Iraq war. All borrowed money.

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Kirk Larson 3 years ago

Even Alan Greenspan called for letting the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy expire. They were the first steps on the road to ruining the economy. Let 'em go!

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jayhawklawrence 3 years ago

Americans don't really sympathize with unions and they don't sympathize with illegal aliens.

So why is all the Democratic political energy focused on these issues?

Americans don't trust "Cap and Trade" and outside of the major crime areas, they don't trust gun control legislation.

So why do the Democrats focus on these issues?

We need an alternative to the tax cut zealots in the Republican Party who seem to be ideologically and politically chained to the wealthy elite.

Another area where the Democrats seem to be losing their way is launching any national campaign which requires spending a lot of money.

Americans are in a cut spending mood right now.

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jayhawklawrence 3 years ago

We have been hearing a lot about how cash heavy the large US corporations are and people are wondering when or where they are going to start investing.

Here is a recent clip from the Wall Street Journal...

"U.S. multinational corporations, the big brand-name companies that employ a fifth of all American workers, have been hiring abroad while cutting back at home, sharpening the debate over globalization's effect on the U.S. economy.

The companies cut their work forces in the U.S. by 2.9 million during the 2000s while increasing employment overseas by 2.4 million, new data from the U.S. Commerce Department show. That's a big switch from the 1990s, when they added jobs everywhere: 4.4 million in the U.S. and 2.7 million abroad."

Can we really trust our Congress to do what is necessary to help the US become more competitive in the global market when all they can think about is cutting taxes AGAIN.

Sure, we need to help small and medium businesses and the Republican rhetoric is appealing to this segment. That is the fault of the Democrats.

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Richard Heckler 3 years ago

Our repub reps figure if they can get in the way long enough they can take take back complete control of government once again. What happens then is further erosion of the economy which this repub party have so aptly demonstrated to the point that is appears to be repub policy.

Perhaps it would be wise to keep a close eye on any political party that feels it is necessary to keep reminding voting taxpayers that it is the party of “less big government”. In fact it may be only political rhetoric.

These actions clearly demonstrate my point.

It's YOUR money! 6 cases in point to be considered and read completely:

  1. The Reagan/Bush Savings and Loan Heist(Cost taxpayers $1.4 trillion) http://rationalrevolution0.tripod.com/war/bush_family_and_the_s.htm

  2. Wall Street Bank Fraud on Consumers http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2009/0709macewan.html

  3. Bush and Henry Paulson blew the $700 billion of bail out money? http://www.democracynow.org/2009/9/10/good_billions_after_bad_one_year

  4. Social Security Insurance AT Risk for no reason( This would cost taxpayers $4 trillion, add $700 billion to the debt each of the next 20 years, place taxpayers insurance money at risk and wreck the economy) http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2005/0505orr.html

  5. Medical Insurance Insurance is COSTING YOU MORE BUT YOU ARE GETTING LESS How much is the sick U.S.A. Medical Insurance industry costing you? http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2008/0508harrison.html

  6. Billions in Over Charges! Why did the medical insurance industry allow their clients to pay what they should have paid? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/24/AR2009062401636.html

Perhaps it would be wise to keep a close eye on any political party that feels it is necessary to keep reminding voting taxpayers that it is the party of “less big government”. In fact it may be only political rhetoric.

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Richard Heckler 3 years ago

Spend tax dollars to create new industry and new jobs that which create new economic growth and tax dollar revenue at the same time.

IMPROVED Medicare Insurance for ALL will reduce the cost of city,state and Federal governments as well as the cost of public education,higher education and the cost of living in general.

The People's Budget accomplishes way more than what Obama or Ryan have presented.

Take a look at the People's Budget recently unveiled:

The Congressional Progressive Caucus People's Budget proposal is gaining some big-time momentum, but we need to up the ante even further if we're going to get this the mainstream attention it deserves.

The fight over the 2012 budget begins tomorrow. If The People's Budget is to advance, we must act now. http://www.pdamerica.org/get-informed/view/critical-vote-on-the-peoples-budget-scheduled-for-9-am-tomorrow/

This is the only budget that does everything this country needs:

* Creates good-paying jobs
* Fully maintains our social safety net
* Invests in education
* Ends our costly wars
* Closes the tax loopholes that have made offshoring jobs profitable
* Ends oil and gas subsidies that pollute our country at taxpayer expense
* Creates a national infrastructure investment bank to help us make intelligent investments for the future

This budget represents the future we believe in as Americans, and the CPC really needs our support to keep it on the front burner. Please call your member of Congress, now. The debate and vote on The People's Budget is scheduled to take place early Friday morning.

This is one of those occasions we all hope we'll live to see: We really can make a difference right now if we speak up loudly with one voice.

The People's Budget represents not just common sense; it represents the will of the American people. Click here to take action.

The People's Budget is getting mainstream attention, but it won't hold that attention unless we speak up about how important our values really are. These aren't just words on a page or numbers in a table—these dollars and cents mean lives helped or hurt, people succeeding or falling by the wayside, and families lifted up or dragged down. This is about America. http://www.pdamerica.org/get-informed/view/critical-vote-on-the-peoples-budget-scheduled-for-9-am-tomorrow/

What the Peoples Budget does very specifically:

http://cpc.grijalva.house.gov/index.cfm?sectionid=70&sectiontree=5,70

http://www.npr.org/2011/04/15/135435883/the-nation-obama-should-fight-for-peoples-budget

http://www.democracynow.org/2011/4/14/while_obama_touts_compromise_with_gop

http://www.thenation.com/blog/159939/fighting-peoples-budget

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scott3460 3 years ago

"Would Simons explain which of the two plans are more divisive?"

Don't hold your breath waiting for it.

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mloburgio 3 years ago

quote from george w bush " i screwed everything up! But thanks for blaming the black guy." Never forget the gang of four! All four memebers of the United States House of Representatives from kansas Tim Huelskamp, Lynn Jenkins,Kevin Yoder and last but not least Mike [i love the koch brothers] Pompeo voted to cut medicare and medicaid.

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rtwngr 3 years ago

What the author of the letter fails to mention is the cuts to medicare and medicaid do not take effect until 2022, 11 years from now. This is plenty of time for those affected by the cuts to make other plans for their retirement years and their healthcare. Nothing will happen to our existing seniors.

If you took all of the money from all of the wage earners in the country it still would not be enough to reduce the deficit. That is why the government is taxing people not even in existence yet. That is what this continued borrowing is.

There is no proposal by Obama. The speech he gave was a campaign speech. The truth does not exist in this man. He has done nothing but lead us deeper into debt. Look around you!!! Gasoline, food, and other commodities have skyrocketed in cost. The country is burning and Nero fiddles.

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