Letters to the Editor

Law lauded

April 18, 2011


To the editor:

I commend the Kansas Legislature and Gov. Brownback for crafting and signing into law a bill tightening restrictions on abortions after 21 weeks based on the assertion that a preborn child can feel pain.

With the medical technology we have today, allowing us to see inside the womb, we know just four weeks after conception that the brain, spinal cord and nervous system have already been established. By week eight, the heart is pumping blood through the circulatory system, muscles start to operate in conjunction with the nervous system, the child responds to touch. Everything is now present that will be found in a fully developed adult.

By week 20, fingerprints are evident, the child can now squint, swallow, urinate, turn her head. The ears are functioning and can hear outside the womb. The palm will make a tight fist when stroked, and the fingers will curve around an object placed in the hand. It is evident that babies in the womb can feel, so how can it be asserted that they do not feel pain while they are being aborted, especially during the partial birth abortion that is performed during the last few months of pregnancy?

Where else in this world can a human child be legally destroyed except in the mother’s womb where, ironically, it should be the safest?

Thank you, Gov. Brownback and the Kansas Legislature, for what you are doing to change the law of the land to protect our preborn children.


just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 2 months ago

Why, yes, picking an arbitrary date will prevent all those frivolous abortions by women without the strong moral convictions of Ms. Graves.

mloburgio 7 years, 2 months ago

He loves taking away womens rights but he could care less for kids once they are born.

Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback's 2012 budget would eliminate all state funding for Kansas Early Head Start, which now serves about 1,250 children across the state. Brownback's 2012 budget calls for eliminating all $11.3 million in state money for Early Head Start, including the $3.5 million from the Children's Initiatives Fund, which comes from the state's share of the master tobacco settlement. Brownback also plans to eliminate all $5 million for Family Centered System of Care, which provides services to mentally ill children from low-income, uninsured families not eligible for Medicaid, and $1 million from Smart Start Kansas, which provides money for improving the quality and affordability of early learning opportunities through programs like preschool scholarships and health services for poor children. Not only would Gov. Sam Brownback's proposed budget cut school funding, it could result in a federal penalty of $70 million in special education funding, officials said Monday. A majority of the cuts, over fifty million dollars, will be taken from K-12 public education. Democrats said the Governor’s decision will have an impact on school children around the state.

jafs 7 years, 2 months ago

It's an obvious contradiction in the right wing pro life camp much of the time.

If you really care about human beings, you don't stop caring about them once they're born.

KayCee 7 years, 2 months ago

That 'obvious contradiction' seems to exsist in the only in the 'lefties' brains.

I'll back you on the second statement.

jafs 7 years, 2 months ago


If that were true, then Brownback et al. wouldn't be cutting funding tor social programs.

But of course that's exactly what gets cut.

KayCee 7 years, 2 months ago

What she did was state the FACTS And, yes, most are frivolous considering our modern medicene.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 2 months ago

That may be an emotionally and ideologically satisfying statement, but there are no facts to support it.

KayCee 7 years, 2 months ago

Gee, I always gave you a little more credit for intelligence than you just displayed.

notanota 7 years, 2 months ago

When you run out of logical arguments, go for an ad hominem.

Kirk Larson 7 years, 2 months ago

Freedom of Choice. It's the American Way!

Jimo 7 years, 2 months ago

"Where else in this world can a human child be legally destroyed except in the mother’s womb where, ironically, it should be the safest?"

Perhaps you should make the budget your choice of reading. Budgetary choices do have life and death consequences, you know? Lives are destroyed. Literally. And predictably.

Pro-life from conception to birth (except for Mexicans). Pro-death thereafter. Always amazing how the very same people can invent responsibility for others' wombs as their God-designated business but reject any responsibility for "other people's" kids.

What's especially sick is the GOP in America. Many nations have right-wing, religiously influenced, family-oriented political parties. Those parties push high taxation and significant spending on social items. Only in the U.S., can you be both "pro-family" and yet be objectively anti-family at the same time. Somehow, I'm certain this letter writer doesn't even see the contradiction.

BigPrune 7 years, 2 months ago

I guess most of the respondents think the baby is better off dead. Out of sight, out of mind. That's how Al Gore got beat in the presidential election. All the abortions done 18 years prior removed his future voters that would've got him elected.

jhawkinsf 7 years, 2 months ago

He did. On Dec13, 2000, Al Gore conceded defeat.
It was not the first time in American history that the person with the most votes did not win an electoral majority. It probably will not be the last time it happens.

jafs 7 years, 2 months ago


It's a strange possibility in our system, don't you think?

jhawkinsf 7 years, 2 months ago

It's a compromise reached in the very beginning as small states were afraid that the larger states would overwhelm them. If we were to do away with the electoral college, I think candidates would not step foot in: Kansas, Nebraska, N. Dakota, S. Dakota, Wyoming, Idaho, Alaska, etc., With more votes in the Los Angeles metropolitan area than in several of those states combined, a candidate would be foolish to spend his/her time in flyover states. The system we have is not perfect, but I'm not sure the alternative is much better.

Paul R Getto 7 years, 2 months ago

I for one am grateful Muscular Sam is making government smaller, promoting employment and taking care of the budget. Hate to see him and his buddies messing around with people's privacy and adding more laws and regulations to the books. Repealer, where art thou?

Armored_One 7 years, 2 months ago

Viruses respond to outside stimulus, as to ants, bees and a whole host of other animals.

The fear and terror involved with executing a person on death row is valid. Do you endorse it's removal as a policy? Keep in mind that it costs a small fraction to fry a child killer, or cop killer, than it does to house them for a few decades, provide medical care, feed them, and so on and so forth. In the end, it's flat cheaper to kill them than to keep them alive.

Various studies have proven that plants have the capacity to at least acknowledge an immediate change in their environment, and react to various stimuli. Shall we no longer harvest corn, wheat or lumber?

This is just another fine example of legislating morality and it should be put down permanently. If you don't want an abortion, don't get one. Seems reasonably straight forward. It's as much of an elective surgery as a boob job, tummy tuck or your teeth straightened. But since most men refuse to be be offended over a woman with a well-filled shirt, a flat stomach or straight teeth, Goddess forbid that there should ever be a referendum to restrict who can and cannot have those elective surgeries.

Blasted hypocrits. If a law was passed that affected your right of choice, and a choice that is solely yours to make, then I almost guarantee the villagers would be grabbing pitchforks and torches. Since it affects someone else, then it's okay.

You want to make a difference, and a true, lasting difference in American society, how about the pro-life group do something to either simplify the adoption process, or better yet, actually adopt some of these abandoned babies, infants, children, pre-teen and teenagers that are lost in a system that shuffles them around like so many playing cards.

Oh, wait. That would cause an inconveinence in your lives, and we can't have something like that, now can we? I apologize for actually asking you to do something truly worthwhile, instead of picking just one point in a life of 60-80 years, taking a stance and then ignoring the rest.

As I said.


Armored_One 7 years, 2 months ago

Hey, ksrush. Quck question, if you don't mind.

How much of our budget crisis could be alleviated if there weren't so many kids "in the system", so to speak?

Welcome to reality.

Now be a good little person and listen for a few minutes.

Held accountable for your actions.

Lovely concept. Go ask my cousin who still has troubles being around me because she had an abortion. The child she would have probably had would have been a couple months older than I am. Held accountable for your actions is a pathetic, mealy mouthed excuse for people unwilling to admit that women who have abortions don't just press on as if nothing ever happened.

Angry liberal?

I could care less if every politician fell off the edge of the Grand Canyon and carried their political agendas with them. It a basic damned human right to decide what you do with your body. Do you think that children that are taken by the state aren't traumatized? How about children that grow up thinking the people that raised them are their parents, but instead, were dropped off somewhere by someone?

I hope that poor horse you are strutting around on doesn't have a heart attack. Be a shame to see you fall off your high horse and be forced to join the really real world.

Welcome to reality.

I'd almost wager that you haven't even been within shouting distance of it. Middle to upper class upbringing. Higher than average education, at least half of which you most likely never paid a red cent for, the rest loans taken out in your parents' name, not your own. Wouldn't say you are an only child, either, but definately the favorite, if you do have siblings.

I'd have to see you in person to truly get a good estimation, but given the distain in your choice of words, it's probably a good start.

Armored_One 7 years, 2 months ago

I could only wish you could feel that kind of angst and pain.

My cousin was also on the pill at the time, as was my mother when she conceived me, so bite me.

I might be a jerk, but it's better than being you.

Paul R Getto 7 years, 2 months ago

jhawkinsf (anonymous) replies… It's a compromise reached in the very beginning as small states were afraid that the larger states would overwhelm them. === Good point. I'm always puzzled by those who denigrate the electoral college system. Without it, the Republican party would be dead. The blue states have much of the population, generate most of the wealth and have the most progressive ideas. A pure popular vote system without the electoral balance would let the coasts and the great lakes states rule the roost. Kansas is nearly irrelevant now; Red States should be content that they are supported financially by the blues.

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